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Day 3 incoming. We are doing it after we put the kids to bed.I committed to dropping sodas for 90 days to coincide with p90x... so I'm going all the way and have not deviated from the diet for the last 3 days.No carbs is brutal for me, and I actually feel like I lack energy in the workouts.I feel you on the initial startup costs. I hope you didn't spend much on the heavier dumbells. These workouts don't require heavy dumbells at all. The heaviest I got is 20lbs and I think I can maybe spring for 25s (30s would be too much for me IMO).I didn't do the bands. You can get away with either bands or dumbells (hope you saved your receipts!).As for your wife doing it... how'd she do on the recommended fit test? If she got through it in one piece, then she's good to go.See my response a few posts up... you may want to look into the 10-minute trainer for her (www.10minutetrainer.com). It's also done by Beachbody and even has the same instructor (Tony). I think it's more geared for slimming down rather than bulking up... depending on what her (or yourMy wife and I will be starting this next wednesday as well.p90x, pull up bar, dumbells, band, mats... we are in for $500+.For this much dough, it better work for my wife.
Sounds like you might be under eating. Are you following the nutrition plan too?
Nope, not following the nutrition plan. I think eat fairly healthy with low carbs and fast food every once while, no sodas.Maybe I'll try upping my food intake though. As of right now I've only lost 3 lbs on this program (currently 167 lbs. and 5'9".) but I've reduced my love handles quite a bit.
Add some more carbs during the day before your next workout, you'll have more energy.
I'm following the nutrition plan... on Day 4 now.This is a ridiculous amount of food. 9 protein portions, wtf. I am dying after 5 or 6 during a day. Egg whites/turkey bacon in the morning, protein shake, chicken/turkey salad for lunch, protein shake, chicken for dinner. Finding room for 3 more proteins is tough... and this doesn't even include the 6 fruits + veggies, 4 snacks, 4 dairies, 1 carb, 1 fat. Unreal. I'm not having an issue with eating the foods they recommend, but the quantity is more than I can keep up with. I don't have time to stop and eat every hour.I did switch from water to gatorade during the workout lastnight... helped bigtime on having energy to get through it. Had been bonking hard midway through the first 3 workouts.Day 3 incoming. We are doing it after we put the kids to bed.I committed to dropping sodas for 90 days to coincide with p90x... so I'm going all the way and have not deviated from the diet for the last 3 days.No carbs is brutal for me, and I actually feel like I lack energy in the workouts.I feel you on the initial startup costs. I hope you didn't spend much on the heavier dumbells. These workouts don't require heavy dumbells at all. The heaviest I got is 20lbs and I think I can maybe spring for 25s (30s would be too much for me IMO).I didn't do the bands. You can get away with either bands or dumbells (hope you saved your receipts!).As for your wife doing it... how'd she do on the recommended fit test? If she got through it in one piece, then she's good to go.See my response a few posts up... you may want to look into the 10-minute trainer for her (www.10minutetrainer.com). It's also done by Beachbody and even has the same instructor (Tony). I think it's more geared for slimming down rather than bulking up... depending on what her (or yourMy wife and I will be starting this next wednesday as well.p90x, pull up bar, dumbells, band, mats... we are in for $500+.For this much dough, it better work for my wife.
Overtraining is a big concern.How much rest are you getting?Did you measure your resting heartrate before you started this? It's best if you can do it before you even get out of bed and start moving around.Keep an eye on that resting heartrate. If it starts to slowly rise up over time, that's a good indication that you're over training. Don't fall off the training wagon and camp out at Krispy Kreme. But take a few days or even a week off doing just stretching and maybe some light cardio. While keeping your diet good.Jmistersmith said:
this is a problem with weighing oneself. hopefully you measured your BMI before you started. i know that my weight didn't decrease all that much the first time i did P90x (the original) but my body fat % dropped quite a bit, and i had decent gains in muscle mass.J is correct here. make sure you aren't overtraining. it's okay to take a few days off. do the stretching dvd or light cardio or an extra day or two of yoga. you have to make sure you are eating enough as well. the plan won't work if you don't. you are putting in the hard effort of the work-outs. just try to follow the eating plan as well. small meals and more of them at the very least. drink some protein shakes as well. mix it up with cranberry juice, apple juice, etc. (just not orange juice as this can negate the protein absorbtion).hope this helps you out some. i have 2 more days left in p90x+ i have upper body plus today and kenpo cardio plus tomorrow. i have gained more muscle in this series then the original, however, i think i lost more fat with the original. i'll be taking a two week break, and then starting a new routine up.
My kids are 5 months and 23 months old so it will be a while before I can get anything done after they go to bed (the younger one wakes up 2-3x for feeding)... plus my wife works the 12hour shift from 7pm-7am so it's all me! I can no longer commit 6 days/week as I've done these last several weeks due to my wife's work schedule. So now I'm pretty much doing it any chance I get (roughly 4-5 days/week). I'm sure I'll still get results, but I'm a little bummed that I have to tone it down.The soda thing will help tremendously for you.Keeping with the suggested diet will help your fatigue. Since you're on a pretty intense training routine, you'll NEED to actually eat more to maintain your energy levels. I followed the diet plan the first several weeks and the food was a lot for me, but I still managed to lose 4 pounds while still increase my reps week to week.Day 3 incoming. We are doing it after we put the kids to bed.I committed to dropping sodas for 90 days to coincide with p90x... so I'm going all the way and have not deviated from the diet for the last 3 days.No carbs is brutal for me, and I actually feel like I lack energy in the workouts.I feel you on the initial startup costs. I hope you didn't spend much on the heavier dumbells. These workouts don't require heavy dumbells at all. The heaviest I got is 20lbs and I think I can maybe spring for 25s (30s would be too much for me IMO).I didn't do the bands. You can get away with either bands or dumbells (hope you saved your receipts!).As for your wife doing it... how'd she do on the recommended fit test? If she got through it in one piece, then she's good to go.See my response a few posts up... you may want to look into the 10-minute trainer for her (www.10minutetrainer.com). It's also done by Beachbody and even has the same instructor (Tony). I think it's more geared for slimming down rather than bulking up... depending on what her (or yourMy wife and I will be starting this next wednesday as well.p90x, pull up bar, dumbells, band, mats... we are in for $500+.For this much dough, it better work for my wife.
) goals are.
Try sticking with water during your workouts, but use chocolate milk immediately following (within 15-30 minutes)...I'm following the nutrition plan... on Day 4 now.This is a ridiculous amount of food. 9 protein portions, wtf. I am dying after 5 or 6 during a day. Egg whites/turkey bacon in the morning, protein shake, chicken/turkey salad for lunch, protein shake, chicken for dinner. Finding room for 3 more proteins is tough... and this doesn't even include the 6 fruits + veggies, 4 snacks, 4 dairies, 1 carb, 1 fat. Unreal. I'm not having an issue with eating the foods they recommend, but the quantity is more than I can keep up with. I don't have time to stop and eat every hour.I did switch from water to gatorade during the workout lastnight... helped bigtime on having energy to get through it. Had been bonking hard midway through the first 3 workouts.Day 3 incoming. We are doing it after we put the kids to bed.I committed to dropping sodas for 90 days to coincide with p90x... so I'm going all the way and have not deviated from the diet for the last 3 days.No carbs is brutal for me, and I actually feel like I lack energy in the workouts.I feel you on the initial startup costs. I hope you didn't spend much on the heavier dumbells. These workouts don't require heavy dumbells at all. The heaviest I got is 20lbs and I think I can maybe spring for 25s (30s would be too much for me IMO).I didn't do the bands. You can get away with either bands or dumbells (hope you saved your receipts!).As for your wife doing it... how'd she do on the recommended fit test? If she got through it in one piece, then she's good to go.See my response a few posts up... you may want to look into the 10-minute trainer for her (www.10minutetrainer.com). It's also done by Beachbody and even has the same instructor (Tony). I think it's more geared for slimming down rather than bulking up... depending on what her (or yourMy wife and I will be starting this next wednesday as well.p90x, pull up bar, dumbells, band, mats... we are in for $500+.For this much dough, it better work for my wife.
It isn't after that I'm worried about. I drink a protein shake after.I couldn't finish the workouts. Not because I'm out of shape... I was just literally lethargic, weak. The gatorade snaps me out of it. I only drank a little morethan half of a G2, and it made a huge difference. Mental? I don't know, but it wasn't a desire to quit that was stopping me the first couple workouts. A whole wheat english muffin in the morning as my one carb for the day just wasn't working for energy levels at night.Tried NoxPlode (whatever) lastnight before workout instead. Liked it actually.PS - me + first 45 minutes of yoga =
me + last 45 mins of yoga = 
And since she sees how hard I am working out she has been exercising more too. I'm glad I decided to do the program!!!
I go with NO XPlode before, some 100% fruit juice with creatine during, and a protein shake made with chocolate milk after my workouts. Chocolate milk is great and all, but alone it doesn't have enough protein in it if you want to put on muscle.It isn't after that I'm worried about. I drink a protein shake after.I couldn't finish the workouts. Not because I'm out of shape... I was just literally lethargic, weak. The gatorade snaps me out of it. I only drank a little morethan half of a G2, and it made a huge difference. Mental? I don't know, but it wasn't a desire to quit that was stopping me the first couple workouts. A whole wheat english muffin in the morning as my one carb for the day just wasn't working for energy levels at night.Tried NoxPlode (whatever) lastnight before workout instead. Liked it actually.PS - me + first 45 minutes of yoga =
Well done, my results are not nearly as noticeable as yours partly because I still have about 15 lbs to lose before anything remotely looking like an ab muscle would start to show. Regardless, the program has done wonders for me. Can't say I'd do it again but I'm glad I did it once. (well not done yet, but only a few weeks to go)
Keep up the good work!Just reading through this thread, it makes me want to give this thing a try. But I would hate to take 3 months off from the gym to do it. I am a lunchtime workout warrior and would have trouble fitting in 60-90 minutes at home.
Serisously... you would only need about 60-75 minutes to do these things (yoga x is the only one that takes 90 minutes). And this includes warmups and the days you need to work the abs.
my own personal recommendation (granted i don't know you) is that you start working out a little bit for at least a month or so. starting out with this might be a bit much. i worked out for a few months at my local gym, and then to break up the monotony, would sneak in a p90x workout here and there. eventually i just said i'm doing it and it still took a lot out of me.this is a tough workout, i know of two guys who tried doing it all out without ever exercising and then couldnt go to work the next day.but everyone is different, if you feel like you can do it, go for it.
That will get better after 1-2 weeks.
I'm going to disagree and say that it would be nearly impossible to gain weight if you follow the workout plan and the diet. Even if you decrease reps and increase weight on the lifting days, the intensity of the cardio days is too much. As I've said many times in this thread, I was pretty thin to begin with, have not tried to lose any weight since I started and am down 11 lbs. If you want to gain 5 lbs. of muscle, there are better and more effective ways.azngangster said:
I don't have any expertise either way to say if you can or can't gain significant muscle with this program. However, looking at the infomercial, it seems the guys who were "ripped" at the end of 90 days started off pretty big already, and just burned off a lot of fat while maintaining their hidden mass.
It really does create an obsessive mindset in you. I was subconsciously beating myself up because I had to take 2 days between workouts over the weekend.
Can someone explain torrents to me, you know, as if I had no clue about them? I tried the link above, and the download link tried to open Limewire on my laptop. Is this a desired outcome? Do I need other software to make this work?And does this really make you have to pee ninety times?
I'd like to try that (and I have looked at it several times), but the instructions for each day are written in greek.
I noticed the comments on the page say that Cardio X is missing. Here's a torrent from the same site that has Cardio X and a few other items. link
Reading the thread, several of you (Balance, GroveDiesel) were starting this in April. Updates as you near the end?
I finish today. Awesome.Stuck to it for 60 days by the book, had fantastic results.
Can you give me the "cliff notes" version of the diet plan? I don't have access to this but would like to at least attempt to improve on this.I finish today. Awesome.Stuck to it for 60 days by the book, had fantastic results. The last 30 days I have strayed pretty far off the plan, going back to basketball and lifting at the gym on the resistance days. I found that after a while I was buying new weights every week as I got stronger... and while the cost was a nuisance, I was running out of room and places to put the weights... was making a mess. Stuck with the diet and actually getting better results in the strength/muscle at the gym.Only lost 12 pounds (226 to 214), but lost 3 inches off the waist (35 to 32) - and awesome results decreasing body fat (no measurements, but the mirror doesn't lie!). After having a couple kids, I'm back to where I was 3 years ago strength and athletic-wise... only leaner.The diet was the biggest difference imo... and it isn't really a "diet," just a reduction of fat and carbs. I cut the sodas and all but eliminated fast food. Second benefit is I am back in the habit of working out everyday like I used to... I won't be doing p90x again anytime soon, but I will continue the 6/7 days a week of working out... incorporating p90x pushup and pullup workouts.Most proud of my pullups. Could barely do 3-4 when I started (how did I go my entire life without doing pullups?), now I can do multiple sets in a row of 12+ (21 is my max to date). Similar results with pushups.. you become a machine. Ab-ripper X is programmed into my workout at the gym and I love it. /flex
Off the top of my head- First 30 days: breaks you in. 1 carb (always whole grain). High protein, Low Fat. 2 Fruits, 2 Veggies each day. Eat a lot (more than I wanted to). Eat small meals and snacks.. often. I don't remember the formula but I was supposed to be eating 2500+ calories a day.Second phase: Same but you get more carbs.Third phase: I didn't follow this but I believe it is the same plus more carbs still.Summary - eat a lot or you will bonk on the workouts, cut the carbs and reduce fat (for me sodas, candy, fast food out). I am eating a ton of chicken, protein shakes (non-fat milk), fruit, veggies. I snack on beef/turkey jerky, protein bars, etc. I really only drink water and milk now....tons of water.A couple times a month I fall off the eating plan, but have suprised myself overall at how well I stick to it in general.fred_1_15301 said:Can you give me the "cliff notes" version of the diet plan? I don't have access to this but would like to at least attempt to improve on this.Balance said:I finish today. Awesome.Stuck to it for 60 days by the book, had fantastic results. The last 30 days I have strayed pretty far off the plan, going back to basketball and lifting at the gym on the resistance days. I found that after a while I was buying new weights every week as I got stronger... and while the cost was a nuisance, I was running out of room and places to put the weights... was making a mess. Stuck with the diet and actually getting better results in the strength/muscle at the gym.Only lost 12 pounds (226 to 214), but lost 3 inches off the waist (35 to 32) - and awesome results decreasing body fat (no measurements, but the mirror doesn't lie!). After having a couple kids, I'm back to where I was 3 years ago strength and athletic-wise... only leaner.The diet was the biggest difference imo... and it isn't really a "diet," just a reduction of fat and carbs. I cut the sodas and all but eliminated fast food. Second benefit is I am back in the habit of working out everyday like I used to... I won't be doing p90x again anytime soon, but I will continue the 6/7 days a week of working out... incorporating p90x pushup and pullup workouts.Most proud of my pullups. Could barely do 3-4 when I started (how did I go my entire life without doing pullups?), now I can do multiple sets in a row of 12+ (21 is my max to date). Similar results with pushups.. you become a machine. Ab-ripper X is programmed into my workout at the gym and I love it. /flex
Thanks. I don't think I would be able to follow this diet. My schedule would not permit me to eat that many meals and calories a day. Also, I don't plan on giving up my rum and coke weekend binges. Oh well.....I still like the idea of just doing the exercises to get a little healthier.Off the top of my head- First 30 days: breaks you in. 1 carb (always whole grain). High protein, Low Fat. 2 Fruits, 2 Veggies each day. Eat a lot (more than I wanted to). Eat small meals and snacks.. often. I don't remember the formula but I was supposed to be eating 2500+ calories a day.Second phase: Same but you get more carbs.Third phase: I didn't follow this but I believe it is the same plus more carbs still.Summary - eat a lot or you will bonk on the workouts, cut the carbs and reduce fat (for me sodas, candy, fast food out). I am eating a ton of chicken, protein shakes (non-fat milk), fruit, veggies. I snack on beef/turkey jerky, protein bars, etc. I really only drink water and milk now....tons of water.A couple times a month I fall off the eating plan, but have suprised myself overall at how well I stick to it in general.fred_1_15301 said:Can you give me the "cliff notes" version of the diet plan? I don't have access to this but would like to at least attempt to improve on this.Balance said:I finish today. Awesome.Stuck to it for 60 days by the book, had fantastic results. The last 30 days I have strayed pretty far off the plan, going back to basketball and lifting at the gym on the resistance days. I found that after a while I was buying new weights every week as I got stronger... and while the cost was a nuisance, I was running out of room and places to put the weights... was making a mess. Stuck with the diet and actually getting better results in the strength/muscle at the gym.Only lost 12 pounds (226 to 214), but lost 3 inches off the waist (35 to 32) - and awesome results decreasing body fat (no measurements, but the mirror doesn't lie!). After having a couple kids, I'm back to where I was 3 years ago strength and athletic-wise... only leaner.The diet was the biggest difference imo... and it isn't really a "diet," just a reduction of fat and carbs. I cut the sodas and all but eliminated fast food. Second benefit is I am back in the habit of working out everyday like I used to... I won't be doing p90x again anytime soon, but I will continue the 6/7 days a week of working out... incorporating p90x pushup and pullup workouts.Most proud of my pullups. Could barely do 3-4 when I started (how did I go my entire life without doing pullups?), now I can do multiple sets in a row of 12+ (21 is my max to date). Similar results with pushups.. you become a machine. Ab-ripper X is programmed into my workout at the gym and I love it. /flex
No offense, but giving up on the diet before you even try it, makes me think you won't last through the exercise program either.Multiple meals isn't really that tough if you use bars and shakes. I'd also mix in things like almonds, yogurt, fruits, etc.Thanks. I don't think I would be able to follow this diet. My schedule would not permit me to eat that many meals and calories a day. Also, I don't plan on giving up my rum and coke weekend binges. Oh well.....I still like the idea of just doing the exercises to get a little healthier.Off the top of my head- First 30 days: breaks you in. 1 carb (always whole grain). High protein, Low Fat. 2 Fruits, 2 Veggies each day. Eat a lot (more than I wanted to). Eat small meals and snacks.. often. I don't remember the formula but I was supposed to be eating 2500+ calories a day.Second phase: Same but you get more carbs.Third phase: I didn't follow this but I believe it is the same plus more carbs still.Summary - eat a lot or you will bonk on the workouts, cut the carbs and reduce fat (for me sodas, candy, fast food out). I am eating a ton of chicken, protein shakes (non-fat milk), fruit, veggies. I snack on beef/turkey jerky, protein bars, etc. I really only drink water and milk now....tons of water.A couple times a month I fall off the eating plan, but have suprised myself overall at how well I stick to it in general.fred_1_15301 said:Can you give me the "cliff notes" version of the diet plan? I don't have access to this but would like to at least attempt to improve on this.Balance said:I finish today. Awesome.Stuck to it for 60 days by the book, had fantastic results. The last 30 days I have strayed pretty far off the plan, going back to basketball and lifting at the gym on the resistance days. I found that after a while I was buying new weights every week as I got stronger... and while the cost was a nuisance, I was running out of room and places to put the weights... was making a mess. Stuck with the diet and actually getting better results in the strength/muscle at the gym.Only lost 12 pounds (226 to 214), but lost 3 inches off the waist (35 to 32) - and awesome results decreasing body fat (no measurements, but the mirror doesn't lie!). After having a couple kids, I'm back to where I was 3 years ago strength and athletic-wise... only leaner.The diet was the biggest difference imo... and it isn't really a "diet," just a reduction of fat and carbs. I cut the sodas and all but eliminated fast food. Second benefit is I am back in the habit of working out everyday like I used to... I won't be doing p90x again anytime soon, but I will continue the 6/7 days a week of working out... incorporating p90x pushup and pullup workouts.Most proud of my pullups. Could barely do 3-4 when I started (how did I go my entire life without doing pullups?), now I can do multiple sets in a row of 12+ (21 is my max to date). Similar results with pushups.. you become a machine. Ab-ripper X is programmed into my workout at the gym and I love it. /flex
No offense taken. I'm not doing this to become tone, buff or anything else. I'm not even planning on following the program to a tee. I have access to the DVDs 5 days a week (at work) and plan to work out 4 of those days (on average). I have complete confidence that I can stick with it for a long time. My problem right now is that I go to the gym and don't have a normal routine. I sort of do whatever I feel like doing for that day but don't really follow a regimen. P90 forces me to follow a regimen and do very focused exercises on specific body parts. I have a lot of will power when it comes to working out. I have little will power when it comes to eating and drinking healthy. However, your suggestions of eating more yogurt, fruit and power bars are very good and I'm going to try that out. I can honestly say that I don't think I'll be able to completely give up alcohol but I'll definitely try to cut down.
I also love the "breaks" in Kenpo when you basically never stop moving.
