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Panic Mode! Who are you giving up on? (1 Viewer)

Not giving up to the point of dropping yet, but Miller, Forsett, and Cooks are riding the pine probably until I see a couple weeks of consistent production.

I keep trying to convince myself to drop Miller, pick up Tyrod Taylor, and start him over Luck until he comes out of his funk.

 
May give up on Spiller. Guy is a chronic disappointment
I don't know that I've seen anyone get more mileage out of one good season. If he somehow puts it together and has another decent season so be it but I'll keep let guys spend picks on the annual disappointment.

 
ichris said:
Roddy White isn't getting targets.
I finally gave up on White and dropped him for Ted Ginn. Ginn isn't half the receiver White was, but he is getting targets consistently and White isn't. After three games, I don't see that changing.
A lot of preseason hype surrounded Hankerson. Looks like there was some fire around that smoke.

 
ichris said:
Roddy White isn't getting targets.
I finally gave up on White and dropped him for Ted Ginn. Ginn isn't half the receiver White was, but he is getting targets consistently and White isn't. After three games, I don't see that changing.
A lot of preseason hype surrounded Hankerson. Looks like there was some fire around that smoke.
It was strange because in Week 1, Roddy actually looked pretty good and was an underthrown ball from Ryan away from posting 7/90/1. Hankerson in Week 1 was only 2/19/0, I believe or something similar. Since then, it's gone completly the other way. Roddy has 1 target the last 2 games, while Hankerson has been more involved. It's really strange how it happened. I could understand if Roddy just didn't look good in Week 1, but he wasn't bad.

 
ichris said:
Roddy White isn't getting targets.
I finally gave up on White and dropped him for Ted Ginn. Ginn isn't half the receiver White was, but he is getting targets consistently and White isn't. After three games, I don't see that changing.
A lot of preseason hype surrounded Hankerson. Looks like there was some fire around that smoke.
It was strange because in Week 1, Roddy actually looked pretty good and was an underthrown ball from Ryan away from posting 7/90/1. Hankerson in Week 1 was only 2/19/0, I believe or something similar. Since then, it's gone completly the other way. Roddy has 1 target the last 2 games, while Hankerson has been more involved. It's really strange how it happened. I could understand if Roddy just didn't look good in Week 1, but he wasn't bad.
I don't quite get it. I thought Roddy looked good week 1 and reports of his demise were premature. Then he gets nothing the last 2 weeks in favor of Leonard Hankerson.

I know that Kyle has a history with Hankerson from their time with the Skins but Hankerson was never more than a tease here. Inconsistency and drops have always been a problem for him.

I understand that they want/need to move on from Roddy at some point but while he's still there I think they should use him. No way I think Hankerson is a better option than him at this point based on what I've seen.

 
Dumped Agholor real quick, although he was a WR3 or 4 anyway.

Won't give up on Hill yet. The coaching staff really wants him to be the bell cow; he just needs to find the medium between the reckless fumbler in week 2 and the tapdancer we saw last week.

 
WampusCat43 said:
Dumped Agholor real quick, although he was a WR3 or 4 anyway.
Ditto. Last year's rookie WR crop probably led to some of this year's rookies being overvalued.

 
WampusCat43 said:
Dumped Agholor real quick, although he was a WR3 or 4 anyway.

Won't give up on Hill yet. The coaching staff really wants him to be the bell cow; he just needs to find the medium between the reckless fumbler in week 2 and the tapdancer we saw last week.
I'd grab him back. The curious thing about his early play was two or three games he had the opposing team's top CB not Matthews.

I would imagine (although results done bare it out really) the Eagles thought this was sweet and happily ignored him to a degree.

 
Gilmore. Maxx should get the job and keep it
Saw someone else say this yesterday (or maybe it was you in another thread). I don't think Williams is ready for full-time action, but he's got tonight's game to prove himself.

I fully expect this to be Gillmore's season, with Williams coming on next year.

 
Given up on: Joique, Agholor, Vinatieri

On notice:

Doug Martin (yes, I drafted him as bye week filler, but there seem to be better options)

CJ Anderson (benched until further notice. Currently only need him for Week 10, by which time I'll know one way or the other)

Julius Thomas (have Reed, but might need another option this week thanks to weather. Plus I'm starting to doubt he'll be ready by Week 8)

In the leagues I (fortunately separately) have them, I don't think I can afford to give up on D. Murray or Lamar Miller. Yet.

 
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Unfortunately, this is like a "who's-who" list for my team. Here is where I stand on the aforementioned names:
CJ Anderson - Hold. Been hurting, and Kubiak RBs always perform eventually. Peyton moving to shotgun will help
J Hill - Hold. 2 TDs in week 1, 2 fumbles week 2, and playing from behind week 3. I think in home games he is still an RB1
Forsett - I haven't gotten any offers for him, but I would probably take a WR3 for him. Trestman is the first one to abandon the run, and Flacco is not utilizing his RBs on screens like Cutler was.
Roddy White - I started him all three weeks, then dropped him for Ted Ginn.
Charles Johnson - Nope.
Ertz - dropped for Maxx today
Jordan Cameron - Hold. although I don't expect much this week.
Brees - Hold. It's Drew Brees, and they will be down most of the year with that defense.
Royal - Cutler sucks and Clausen makes Cutler look like Aaron Rodgers.

So I have given up on Forsett, Roddy White, Ertz, Charles Johnson, and Royal. Holding CJ, Hill, and Brees. It has been a long year already...

 
Peak said:
Put me in the Forsett group. Just a disappointing start to the season for him based on expectations.
Ravens 0-3 Not all Forsett. When No defense will be playing from behind.
 
Unfortunately, this is like a "who's-who" list for my team. Here is where I stand on the aforementioned names:

CJ Anderson - Hold. Been hurting, and Kubiak RBs always perform eventually. Peyton moving to shotgun will help

J Hill - Hold. 2 TDs in week 1, 2 fumbles week 2, and playing from behind week 3. I think in home games he is still an RB1

Forsett - I haven't gotten any offers for him, but I would probably take a WR3 for him. Trestman is the first one to abandon the run, and Flacco is not utilizing his RBs on screens like Cutler was.

Roddy White - I started him all three weeks, then dropped him for Ted Ginn.

Charles Johnson - Nope.

Ertz - dropped for Maxx today

Jordan Cameron - Hold. although I don't expect much this week.

Brees - Hold. It's Drew Brees, and they will be down most of the year with that defense.

Royal - Cutler sucks and Clausen makes Cutler look like Aaron Rodgers.

So I have given up on Forsett, Roddy White, Ertz, Charles Johnson, and Royal. Holding CJ, Hill, and Brees. It has been a long year already...
The bolded is not true. Cincy led that game until 6:49 in the 4th. I'm not saying to give up on Hill, I own him in 2 leagues and am holding and hoping. That said, this weeks game was concerning, because they were in fact leading for that vast majority of the game, and he was a non-factor. He and Bernard were rotating series until the game went into shootout mode in the late 4th, then Bernard took over.

 
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I pulled the plug on Spiller today for Marvin Jones. Sure, there's lots of talk about how he's healthy now and will be implemented more in the gameplan, but that's just talk until anything actually changes. I'm pretty sure I'll just be disappointed in the end if I hold onto him for another week or two. You can probably find some someone like Dunbar on your WW that is putting up better numbers right now than Spiller will all year.
Quoting myself because I might have panicked a bit too soon on Spiller. I won't attempt to pick him back up off the WW though because I don't expect him to rip off 80 yard TD passes every week.

I'll be dumping DeVante Parker this week so you can expect him to also break out really soon.

 
Tom Brady was thrown on the dumpster fire after 4 weeks last year. Turnaround can happen.
Absolutely. When you have a resume like Tom Brady you will have patience and confidence he can and will turn it around.

Mike Evans for me is a second year WR whom I think is a major stud.....but right now is not start worthy at all. I had him in my lineup this week with great hope he is ready to make two straight weeks of involvement and putting up numbers.

Fail.

I am not even close to cutting a guy like him.....I am sure he will come around....but I am very concerned about week to week consistency and I hate that when I take a guy in round 3.

 
May give up on Spiller. Guy is a chronic disappointment
Can't give up on a guy you never believed in-never owned Spiller ever
Spiller is going to be a factor in fantasy this year. Book it.
I really thought so. I think I even posted it. I'm just concerned about the Saints as a whole and being able to be consistent. He can do things like last night on a limited touch-basis and we know it only takes one play for him in fantasy but how many weeks can you live with him only seeing 20 snaps and ending up with 3-4 ff points? Its tough.

 
Tom Brady was thrown on the dumpster fire after 4 weeks last year. Turnaround can happen.
Absolutely. When you have a resume like Tom Brady you will have patience and confidence he can and will turn it around.

Mike Evans for me is a second year WR whom I think is a major stud.....but right now is not start worthy at all. I had him in my lineup this week with great hope he is ready to make two straight weeks of involvement and putting up numbers.

Fail.

I am not even close to cutting a guy like him.....I am sure he will come around....but I am very concerned about week to week consistency and I hate that when I take a guy in round 3.
This is the classic case of who is providing the presence to the young QB.

I think this is clearly a case where a conservative coach like Lovie and a vet WR in VJAX are the ones in Winston's ear and he is deferring that way. Evans doesn't have that type of clout yet.

But what we will see, as the year goes on, is Evans' talent and youth and fresh legs. THe last 5-6 weeks of the season, I think you will see the script completely flip and Evans will be a strong contributor for teams if they are lucky enough to survive this. He would be right at the top of my list for guys I would look to buy right now.

 
* CJ Anderson looked marginally better this week, but I stand by my earlier post that he's a 'give up on' player.

* I'll bet that most here can pick up a player from the WW that has better numbers than Mike Evans.

* Braden Cooks is in the same boat with Evans.

 
Tom Brady was thrown on the dumpster fire after 4 weeks last year. Turnaround can happen.
Absolutely. When you have a resume like Tom Brady you will have patience and confidence he can and will turn it around.

Mike Evans for me is a second year WR whom I think is a major stud.....but right now is not start worthy at all. I had him in my lineup this week with great hope he is ready to make two straight weeks of involvement and putting up numbers.

Fail.

I am not even close to cutting a guy like him.....I am sure he will come around....but I am very concerned about week to week consistency and I hate that when I take a guy in round 3.
This is the classic case of who is providing the presence to the young QB.

I think this is clearly a case where a conservative coach like Lovie and a vet WR in VJAX are the ones in Winston's ear and he is deferring that way. Evans doesn't have that type of clout yet.

But what we will see, as the year goes on, is Evans' talent and youth and fresh legs. THe last 5-6 weeks of the season, I think you will see the script completely flip and Evans will be a strong contributor for teams if they are lucky enough to survive this. He would be right at the top of my list for guys I would look to buy right now.
I agree. I am not cutting him loose. Not even thinking that. I have some decent depth there with Fitz and Wright and I also picked up Hankerson who just keeps producing.

 
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Tom Brady was thrown on the dumpster fire after 4 weeks last year. Turnaround can happen.
Absolutely. When you have a resume like Tom Brady you will have patience and confidence he can and will turn it around.

Mike Evans for me is a second year WR whom I think is a major stud.....but right now is not start worthy at all. I had him in my lineup this week with great hope he is ready to make two straight weeks of involvement and putting up numbers.

Fail.

I am not even close to cutting a guy like him.....I am sure he will come around....but I am very concerned about week to week consistency and I hate that when I take a guy in round 3.
I wasn't surprised to see Evans have a subpar outing week 4 due to having Josh Norman covering him.

 
Tom Brady was thrown on the dumpster fire after 4 weeks last year. Turnaround can happen.
Absolutely. When you have a resume like Tom Brady you will have patience and confidence he can and will turn it around.

Mike Evans for me is a second year WR whom I think is a major stud.....but right now is not start worthy at all. I had him in my lineup this week with great hope he is ready to make two straight weeks of involvement and putting up numbers.

Fail.

I am not even close to cutting a guy like him.....I am sure he will come around....but I am very concerned about week to week consistency and I hate that when I take a guy in round 3.
I wasn't surprised to see Evans have a subpar outing week 4 due to having Josh Norman covering him.
People only check boxscores and not coverages, game flow, targets, etc. Norman has been fantastic and this is more on his good play then Evans' bad play.

 
I think it still falls on the QB..

Call it chemistry, or a lack of trust..

But the Stud QB needs to feed his Stud WR!

Evans stats were shameful..

 
I think it still falls on the QB..

Call it chemistry, or a lack of trust..

But the Stud QB needs to feed his Stud WR!

Evans stats were shameful..
....? Evan was shadowed by Josh Norman the entire day, whom is going to end up a top 5 CB overall by the end of the year.

Everyone saw this coming today (or you're not paying attention to advanced stats & matchups). The sharks were all over VJAX in DFS; he won me a lot of money yesterday.

 
Ryan Tannehill looked terrible, I don't know if a coaching change can help. I'll keep him on the bench rather than dropping him but I was really excited about his potential this year.

 
Ryan Tannehill looked terrible, I don't know if a coaching change can help. I'll keep him on the bench rather than dropping him but I was really excited about his potential this year.
i was as well. His touch on the deep ball is disgustingly bad. I can't see starting him anytime soon even though he really has not had a really bad game yet, just lots of garbage time fluff.
 
Tom Brady was thrown on the dumpster fire after 4 weeks last year. Turnaround can happen.
Absolutely. When you have a resume like Tom Brady you will have patience and confidence he can and will turn it around. Mike Evans for me is a second year WR whom I think is a major stud.....but right now is not start worthy at all. I had him in my lineup this week with great hope he is ready to make two straight weeks of involvement and putting up numbers.

Fail.

I am not even close to cutting a guy like him.....I am sure he will come around....but I am very concerned about week to week consistency and I hate that when I take a guy in round 3.
another person who's never heard of josh Norman
 
Tom Brady was thrown on the dumpster fire after 4 weeks last year. Turnaround can happen.
Absolutely. When you have a resume like Tom Brady you will have patience and confidence he can and will turn it around.

Mike Evans for me is a second year WR whom I think is a major stud.....but right now is not start worthy at all. I had him in my lineup this week with great hope he is ready to make two straight weeks of involvement and putting up numbers.

Fail.

I am not even close to cutting a guy like him.....I am sure he will come around....but I am very concerned about week to week consistency and I hate that when I take a guy in round 3.
I wasn't surprised to see Evans have a subpar outing week 4 due to having Josh Norman covering him.
People only check boxscores and not coverages, game flow, targets, etc. Norman has been fantastic and this is more on his good play then Evans' bad play.
Last year Evans and VJax were really even in targets (142 VJ vs 122 ME), receptions (70 VJ vs 68 ME), and yards (1051 ME vs 1002 VJ). Evans had 12 TDs to VJax' 2.

If you ascribe to the TDs are flukey theory, then you should have had these two ranked pretty much even coming into 2015... with Winston being a huge wildcard for both.

 
Just about there with Zach Ertz. Granted the entire Eagles passing game has been lackluster, but Ertz is outsnapping Celek yet still not doing much.

 
Dismattle said:
I think it still falls on the QB..

Call it chemistry, or a lack of trust..

But the Stud QB needs to feed his Stud WR!

Evans stats were shameful..
When I see posts like this I know it's time to buy low on a player.

Time to fleece the uninformed.

 
Phenomena said:
Dismattle said:
I think it still falls on the QB..

Call it chemistry, or a lack of trust..

But the Stud QB needs to feed his Stud WR!

Evans stats were shameful..
....? Evan was shadowed by Josh Norman the entire day, whom is going to end up a top 5 CB overall by the end of the year.

Everyone saw this coming today (or you're not paying attention to advanced stats & matchups). The sharks were all over VJAX in DFS; he won me a lot of money yesterday.
The Evans thread has people saying Norman was on VJax quite a bit w/ Evans drawing double teams. Can someone who actually watched the game give me some clarity.

 
I just gave up on Denver backfield. Sold them for Beast Mode and Ajayi. Dynasty win now mode. Could have had Gio and Sims, but Lynch situation (if healthy) is too unique now days compared to the RBBC norm. Would never have done it if I hadn't snagged Rawls.

 
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Anyone can feel free to buy Jonathan Stewart from me. Cheap. I can't get myself to just dump him into the free agent pool.

 
I saw someone mentioned Vereen. Interesting that he has had two consecutive games with zero catches.

I might pull the plug on Colin Kaepernick. I have him for $1 in a salary cap league as a bckup to Brees and Rothlisberger. I added Kirk Cousins this week for $1. Kaep is on my roster for as cheap as it gets but I'm not sure I want to waste the roster spot in him.

 
Right now I'm only holding onto Vereen for perceived trade value. I'd like him off of my roster ASAP. I'm sure I'll drop him soon if I can't deal him.

 
Roddy White has no pulse left. My dynasty team is in shambles. He's just a name now. Can't see him eating roster space anymore even though the waiver wire is picked over. Cutting bait hoping someone better drops to the wire.

 

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