Passengers are out of control on flights (1 Viewer)

[In The Zone]

I'd never kid about such a serious matter

Hey Colonel,

I Believe!!

 

[parasaurolophus]

Family kicked off of plane for being stinky.

That is good to hear actually. Have had the bad luck of being stuck next to a stinky passenger. It is miserable. 

 

[Binky The Doormat]

Family kicked off of plane for being stinky.

That is good to hear actually. Have had the bad luck of being stuck next to a stinky passenger. It is miserable. 

I think they were kicked off because they are Jewish, because the entire plane of random people are anti-semitic  ...is his delusional point.  

 

[parasaurolophus]

I think they were kicked off because they are Jewish, because the entire plane of random people are anti-semitic  ...is his delusional point.  

he is throwing out stinky bait. 

 

[shadyridr]

There was an Indian dude at work that stunk up the whole gym every time he worked out. Everybody was too shy to say something but not me. The smell made me nauseous. So I told him he stinks, everybody complains about him and he needs to change his workout clothes every day. He was shocked and started laughing but I will tell you he started wearing clean gym clothes every day after that and never smelled again. Several people thanked me. It was pretty awkward when I was in a meeting with him several months after that though.

 

[parasaurolophus]

I actually had to fire a guy because he smelled too bad. I spoke to him several times about it. Once we got a customer complaint I was done with it. Thank god he hadnt been there 90 days and wasn't in the union yet. 

 

[Sand]

At the KAL lounge in LAX last night and the ramen slurping was off the hook. 

 

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At the KAL lounge in LAX last night and the ramen slurping was off the hook. 

Bro if you ain’t slurping then you ain’t Ramening....ing... 

 

[Chaka]

There was an Indian dude at work that stunk up the whole gym every time he worked out. Everybody was too shy to say something but not me. The smell made me nauseous. So I told him he stinks, everybody complains about him and he needs to change his workout clothes every day. He was shocked and started laughing but I will tell you he started wearing clean gym clothes every day after that and never smelled again. Several people thanked me. It was pretty awkward when I was in a meeting with him several months after that though.

This is gonna make me sound like a self righteous so-and-so or whatnot, and I like your story because I've been there and just suffered through it, but does his ethnicity matter or add in a meaningful way to the story?

 

[Binky The Doormat]

This is gonna make me sound like a self righteous so-and-so or whatnot, and I like your story because I've been there and just suffered through it, but does his ethnicity matter or add in a meaningful way to the story?

your initial thought was on the money.  

 

[Dedfin]

The last flight I took a woman on it had an English Bulldog service animal. It was one of those fake comfort animals or whatever they called them becuase there is a 0% chance that bulldog has any actual job. The dog was barely staying alive by itself, wheezing, drooling, and gasping the entire flight. It was louder than a baby. Those dogs are disgusting. I was 7 or so rows away and still smelled its breath. Now this isn't peacock service animal level, but how can anyone convince an airline that a dog that shouldn't even be alive is somehow performing some task to keep its owner healthy?

 

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The last flight I took a woman on it had an English Bulldog service animal. It was one of those fake comfort animals or whatever they called them becuase there is a 0% chance that bulldog has any actual job. The dog was barely staying alive by itself, wheezing, drooling, and gasping the entire flight. It was louder than a baby. Those dogs are disgusting. I was 7 or so rows away and still smelled its breath. Now this isn't peacock service animal level, but how can anyone convince an airline that a dog that shouldn't even be alive is somehow performing some task to keep its owner healthy?

This is gonna make me sound like a self righteous so-and-so or whatnot, and I like your story because I've been there and just suffered through it, but does the dogs breed matter or add in a meaningful way to the story?

 

[Osaurus]

My comfort porcupine is clean and smells terrific.  A bit bitey though.  

 

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This is gonna make me sound like a self righteous so-and-so or whatnot, and I like your story because I've been there and just suffered through it, but does his ethnicity matter or add in a meaningful way to the story?

Indian dudes often eat a lot of curry. People who eat a lot of curry often smell strongly. I say this as someone who’s best friend is Indian and who has been a “groomsman” in a Sikh wedding. 

These two factors aid the storyteller in painting a visual in the readers mind, so, yes.... it adds in a meaningful way. 

So, yes, you sound like a self-righteous so and so. 

 

[Jobber]

This is gonna make me sound like a self righteous so-and-so or whatnot, and I like your story because I've been there and just suffered through it, but does the dogs breed matter or add in a meaningful way to the story?

I almost choked on my coffee just now. Christ. Well done, sir!

 

[Chaka]

Indian dudes often eat a lot of curry. People who eat a lot of curry often smell strongly. I say this as someone who’s best friend is Indian and who has been a “groomsman” in a Sikh wedding. 

These two factors aid the storyteller in painting a visual in the readers mind, so, yes.... it adds in a meaningful way. 

So, yes, you sound like a self-righteous so and so. 

Let's be clear, I owned it in advance. I also want to be abundantly clear that I am not calling @shadyridr out. Dude's a great poster and I'm a fan.

Perhaps Indian people in India eat a lot of curry but I am not certain we can say the same about Indian people in Staten Island. 

I think it is fair to suggest that all it added was an unintentional reinforcement of racial stereotypes. We all do it and if we believe that the way to true equality is to treat people the same then we must examine how we treat them differently. 

We don't have to change it necessarily but we should the language we use. It matters.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Let's be clear, I owned it in advance. I also want to be abundantly clear that I am not calling @shadyridr out. Dude's a great poster and I'm a fan.

Perhaps Indian people in India eat a lot of curry but I am not certain we can say the same about Indian people in Staten Island. 

I think it is fair to suggest that all it added was an unintentional reinforcement of racial stereotypes. We all do it and if we believe that the way to true equality is to treat people the same then we must examine how we treat them differently. 

We don't have to change it necessarily but we should the language we use. It matters.

Indians here eat a lot of indian food too. 

 

[Chaka]

Indians here eat a lot of indian food too. 

All of them? Every meal?

Do people who eat a lot of fast food have b.o.? Do people from Kentucky have b.o.? What about Finn's? They eat pickled herring all the time, do they get b.o.?

Do you ever have b.o.?

 

[parasaurolophus]

All of them? Every meal?

Do people who eat a lot of fast food have b.o.? Do people from Kentucky have b.o.? What about Finn's? They eat pickled herring all the time, do they get b.o.?

Do you ever have b.o.?

Yes.

Dont know people from kentucky or any finn's. 

Yes, i have had BO. 

Do you rub your soap box on you to keep from getting stinky? 

 

[Chaka]

Yes.

Dont know people from kentucky or any finn's. 

Yes, i have had BO. 

Do you rub your soap box on you to keep from getting stinky? 

I am sorry that you view it as a soap box. I am not holding myself above anyone, I do exactly the same things and have become increasingly aware of that fact.

 

[ShamrockPride]

All of them? Every meal?

Do people who eat a lot of fast food have b.o.? Do people from Kentucky have b.o.? What about Finn's? They eat pickled herring all the time, do they get b.o.?

Do you ever have b.o.?

*triggered*

 

[parasaurolophus]

I am sorry that you view it as a soap box. I am not holding myself above anyone, I do exactly the same things and have become increasingly aware of that fact.

It is one thing to point out that a guy is indian so he must be smelly. It is a whole nother thing to say that the indian dude i worked with really smelled. 

 

[DallasDMac]

I think it is fair to suggest that all it added was an unintentional reinforcement of racial stereotypes.

Or he could have just been stating a fact. He may well have done it if it was a caucasian, or a heavy set guy, or a girl. There's a lot of assumption being made on your part. So I'm not sure it is "fair" at all.

 

[Chaka]

It is one thing to point out that a guy is indian so he must be smelly. It is a whole nother thing to say that the indian dude i worked with really smelled. 

Of course but that is a much smaller distinction than saying the dude I worked with really smelled. 

Isn't it?

 

[Chaka]

Or he could have just been stating a fact. He may well have done it if it was a caucasian, or a heavy set guy, or a girl. There's a lot of assumption being made on your part. So I'm not sure it is "fair" at all.

Sure, it's possible although the next time I read a post in the FFA saying how a Caucasian dude smelled really bad (or whatever) will be the first time. Most of the "white people did..." stuff is in the PSF. 

And, again, to be very clear the assumption I made was that it represented unintentional racism. I have been clear that I ascribe zero malice to the story.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Sure, it's possible although the next time I read a post in the FFA saying how a Caucasian dude smelled really bad (or whatever) will be the first time. Most of the "white people did..." stuff is in the PSF. 

And, again, to be very clear the assumption I made was that it represented unintentional racism. I have been clear that I ascribe zero malice to the story.

I understand where you're coming from and I'm guilty of this from time to time although I have been better at catching myself these days. Not because its a ever increasingly PC world, but because its systematic and unintentional (on my part) racism. 

Instead of you guys getting defensive or pretending to be obtuse, maybe do some self reflection and acknowledge that Chaka isn't calling you out (as he has politely and repeatedly stated), but hes just questioning if the language that we commonly use should be re-evaluated.

 

[Mr.Pack]

Yuuuup

 

[shadyridr]

Holy crap @Chaka

Get over yourself. I talk on these boards like I talk to my friends. I thought it was ok to make non PC or stereotypical comments or off color jokes in the presence of friends. I must've missed the memo I had to be PC here too. I didn't realize this was a job interview. 

 

[djmich]

Serious question, if I think that on average I am more likely to run into an Indian that smells worse than the random white or black person I run into is that racist? 

 

[shadyridr]

Serious question, if I think that on average I am more likely to run into an Indian that smells worse than the random white or black person I run into is that racist? 

Of course not. A lot of stereotypes have some truth to them. A lot of the IT staff in my company smells like BO. My good buddy who is Pakistani does not. 

I asked him why. He said it's a cultural thing. Most don't even know what deodorant is. My buddy also calls himself the weapon of ### destruction. 

 

[belljr]

I work with a Korean guy who smells like lavender every day

 

[belljr]

Holy crap @Chaka

Get over yourself. I talk on these boards like I talk to my friends. I thought it was ok to make non PC or stereotypical comments or off color jokes in the presence of friends. I must've missed the memo I had to be PC here too. I didn't realize this was a job interview. 

It's not like you posted pics of the smelly guy in his yoga pants.

 

[bigbottom]

Sure, it's possible although the next time I read a post in the FFA saying how a Caucasian dude smelled really bad (or whatever) will be the first time.

I had an Austrian client who we were prepping for a trial and I had to tell him that he needed to wear deodorant during the trial since we would be sitting so close to the jury box. It was awkward because of the subject matter, and the fact that I worked for him, but he followed my instructions and all went swimmingly. After a weeklong trial, the jury ruled in our favor.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

This is gonna make me sound like a self righteous so-and-so or whatnot, and I like your story because I've been there and just suffered through it, but does his ethnicity matter or add in a meaningful way to the story?

It did spice up the story. 

 

[Dedfin]

This is gonna make me sound like a self righteous so-and-so or whatnot, and I like your story because I've been there and just suffered through it, but does the dogs breed matter or add in a meaningful way to the story?

 

[steeler6]

This is gonna make me sound like a self righteous so-and-so or whatnot, and I like your story because I've been there and just suffered through it, but does the dogs breed matter or add in a meaningful way to the story?

Lmfao

 

[steeler6]

It did spice up the story. 

 

[culdeus]

This might be an AITA question, but on a flight to Korea they had a tv in back of seat.  They had a Showtime show in the inflight system that I can't even remember the name of right now with some just full on sex.  Some story about a hitman with a hot girlfriend.

Was seated next to someone from SE Asia that culturally this was probably way over the line.  The screen had sort of a privacy screen but odds were she got an eyefull.  

AITA?

 

[Beef Ravioli]

There was an Indian dude at work that stunk up the whole gym every time he worked out. Everybody was too shy to say something but not me. The smell made me nauseous. So I told him he stinks, everybody complains about him and he needs to change his workout clothes every day. He was shocked and started laughing but I will tell you he started wearing clean gym clothes every day after that and never smelled again. Several people thanked me. It was pretty awkward when I was in a meeting with him several months after that though.

Hopefully he doesn’t become your boss someday!

 

[Dedfin]

Hopefully he doesn’t become your boss someday!

I hope he does

 

[Chaka]

Serious question, if I think that on average I am more likely to run into an Indian that smells worse than the random white or black person I run into is that racist? 

I'm not sure, what do you think?

 

[djmich]

I'm not sure, what do you think?

It’s a stereotype, which doesn’t equate to racist.

There are lots of stereotypes.  Some reflecting positive beliefs of a group of people, some more negative.  They can be true or false.

As with everything, multiplied by 10 these days, bad people will use them for bad things and dumb people will use them for dumb things.

Stereotypes that imply one race is better than another or how a group behaves or acts in a negative light would seem to be racist or just plain bad.

A stereotype about the smell of a preferred food for a poplulation seems not racist.

Does that help you?

 

[Dedfin]

Holy crap this thread got murdered. Thanks, you know who.

 

[Chaka]

It’s a stereotype, which doesn’t equate to racist.

There are lots of stereotypes.  Some reflecting positive beliefs of a group of people, some more negative.  They can be true or false.

As with everything, multiplied by 10 these days, bad people will use them for bad things and dumb people will use them for dumb things.

Stereotypes that imply one race is better than another or how a group behaves or acts in a negative light would seem to be racist or just plain bad.

A stereotype about the smell of a preferred food for a poplulation seems not racist.

Does that help you?

I never called anyone racist and was extremely careful not to suggest anyone was being intentionally racist. I sincerely don't think anyone here is racist or has intentionally acted in a racist manner.

I said that it unintentionally promoted racial stereotypes and your response, while helpful, does not disabuse that notion.

 

[Chaka]

Holy crap this thread got murdered. Thanks, you know who.

You're welcome.

 

[djmich]

I never called anyone racist and was extremely careful not to suggest anyone was being intentionally racist. I sincerely don't think anyone here is racist or has intentionally acted in a racist manner.

I said that it unintentionally promoted racial stereotypes and your response, while helpful, does not disabuse that notion.

Yah, maybe my last sentence was unclear, I was asking if my response helped you form an opinion, since you said you weren’t sure.  It wasn’t intended to require a personal defense, understand why you would interpret it that way.

Could be a good discussion, but not the thread.  

 

[Sand]

This might be an AITA question, but on a flight to Korea they had a tv in back of seat.  They had a Showtime show in the inflight system that I can't even remember the name of right now with some just full on sex.  Some story about a hitman with a hot girlfriend.

Was seated next to someone from SE Asia that culturally this was probably way over the line.  The screen had sort of a privacy screen but odds were she got an eyefull.  

AITA?

Same thing happened to me on Air Canada.  Watching Ex Machina - had no idea and they left all the glorious parts.  I guess the answer is yes, though unintentionally?  I felt like one.

 

[culdeus]

This might be an AITA question, but on a flight to Korea they had a tv in back of seat.  They had a Showtime show in the inflight system that I can't even remember the name of right now with some just full on sex.  Some story about a hitman with a hot girlfriend.

Was seated next to someone from SE Asia that culturally this was probably way over the line.  The screen had sort of a privacy screen but odds were she got an eyefull.  

AITA?

Had to look it up to remember. Quarry.

Has Joi Balfour in it and she gets very naked

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3341156/?ref_=tt_cl_t2