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er, at least this time I do. No VIP room-type stuff here. Keep it open to everyone. ... although I will say I could do without the Mike Brady messages from Joe - much love and respect to Joe, but I'm a grown up, by golly! It's been a long time since I had to mow my parents astroturf yard.
agreed. As an aside... I don't know that I would have ever become a subscriber in the first place had I not been able to browse the message board for free and get a sense of the quality of the content and discussion.
. What sort of maniac is this guy? 
That's amazing. I came here to post the exact same thing.
From a business stand-point this is a ridiculous suggestion that footballguys would be foolish to agree to. This message board and the opinions and discussions that take place are some of the best free-advertising for why you SHOULD subscribe to the site. As a newbie a couple years ago it was comments and inside info I saw exchanged here that made me realize I could really learn a lot by paying for a subscription.
Agree, I browsed the forums back in July here and bought my first subscription right after I saw how active this place was. So far I love it, especially the updates we get from Joe. Priceless information. Anyone else on the fence it is worth the $25 or whatever the price was.But I do like the comments to articles kind of theme for pay area, like a blog. Can't hurt and it would keep the comments on track to the article.
For articles like "The Perfect Draft," that IS the answer. If Joe ignores this option, he's just being stubborn and not listening to his customers. We'll just have to wait and see. I hope he sees the wisdom in this solution. FBGs can'g expect us to pay for information, then walk around with our mouths tightly closed pretending that we don't want to talk about it.
There is not a true "free flow" of information when subscribers are censored as to what they can discuss on pay material.I for one would like to see a forum for which subscribers could comment and debate ONLY pay articles. Anything other than that should stay here or wherever it belongs. Ya ya, PMs, how tiresome would that get....
Now THIS I would support!!!
I go crazy sorting through all the re-draft stuff, and would LOVE to exchange ideas and opinions with dynasty only owners.
This is a good idea. It's difficult having a serious discussion when some poster is trying to be "cool" by belittling the value of someone like Willie Parker.I don't think the dynasty forum would take anything away from the SP, and it would make finding that info much easier. Kinda like the IDP forum...
I guess great minds think alike. I didn't read the thread before I posted my comments, but I hope the powers that be will see that this is a great idea.
It's a good idea, but I can't see any way they can get this done in 2005 with their current staffing. What you're asking for is a lot of work, and it won't draw in (m)any new subscribers this year. I agree that it would be nice to have a place to discuss the subscriber content, though.
for not having one.
Agreed! If they can privide a separate forum for "The Smack Off" or "The Dating Game", this doesn't seem like too much of a stretch.I agree that the message board should be free.
However, that doesn't mean that FBG's couldn't provide a "Subscriber Only" category, that only subscribers could access to discuss subscriber content.
It is NOT a lot of work to add a comments section to each subscriber article. Every Joe Schmo with a blog has one.
Agreed! If they can privide a separate forum for "The Smack Off" or "The Dating Game", this doesn't seem like too much of a stretch.I agree that the message board should be free.
However, that doesn't mean that FBG's couldn't provide a "Subscriber Only" category, that only subscribers could access to discuss subscriber content.
Add a forum please.
It's better than getting your posts deleted or getting scolded for talking about stuff that you're not supposed to talk about. If you are so certain that there is nothing worthwhile to talk about in a forum like this, why would you assume that the Shark Pool would get diluted from all the sharks running over to the new forum to discuss nothing?
BINGO - you just have two different forum sections, an at large, open to everyone forum and a subscriber only forum where they can discuss premium content AND get faster answers from staff (as they have a smaller group of posts to deal with)We use the two forum system very successfully at Mastersball.com - if there are some subscribers here, they can attest to that.
The technology they're using to store their articles now is not the same technology that "every joe schmo" is using for their blogs. You'd be asking them to change technologies, copy all their content over to a blog, set up security around the blog, and do all of this specifically when they're at the peak of their business. It's a lot harder than you seem to think it is. I don't speak for Joe and co., but I think it's completely unrealistic to expect this in 2005, even if they were willing to do it at some point in the future. Late August is not a good time to add something this big to their schedule.
This agruement is very weak IMO. The only traffic you would be limiting in other forums is that of people who have ALREADY SUBSCRIBED. How would they be loosing "hits" and missing out on any exposure due to people who have already paid going to another forum? Sure, the SP would take a minor hit as far as info is concerned, but as I already said several posts ago, the pay info ONLY comes out during the PEAK season anyway. When traffic is at it's highest, so I think the loss would be minimal. And again, the threads would be topic specific as to not dilute the SP too much. The mods have no problem policing us from discussing pay stuff and double posted materal already, so I don't see how policing that forum would create much more of a problem.
Agreed! If they can privide a separate forum for "The Smack Off" or "The Dating Game", this doesn't seem like too much of a stretch.I agree that the message board should be free.
However, that doesn't mean that FBG's couldn't provide a "Subscriber Only" category, that only subscribers could access to discuss subscriber content.
