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Peyton Goes Off On His O'Line (1 Viewer)

I liked Glenn telling him "go sit down." Peyton's not a God to his own teammates. Saturday wasn't cowering from the conversation, either.

I like hearing the coaches when they're mic'd, too.

 
Why is it OK for Manning to scream obscenities at his teamate, but if it were CJ/TO they would be vilified?

I'll hang up an listen.

 
Why is it OK for Manning to scream obscenities at his teamate, but if it were CJ/TO they would be vilified?I'll hang up an listen.
Maybe it's because everyone knows that he's a team player as opposed to a "ME" player, which both TO and CJ have shown over and over and over and over and over and over and over they are a "ME" PLAYER. You don't see Manning longing for the spotlight, all he cares about is winning. This shouldn't even be up for discussion.
 
I liked Glenn telling him "go sit down." Peyton's not a God to his own teammates. Saturday wasn't cowering from the conversation, either.I like hearing the coaches when they're mic'd, too.
With Glenn saying what he did, and Saturday acting the way he did, I think it's great for the whole team. Manning said his peace, so did Saturday, and so did Glenn. End of discussion. I watched the America's Game special on the NFL Network and they discussed the incident. It was no big deal and everyone benefited from it.
 
Why is it OK for Manning to scream obscenities at his teamate, but if it were CJ/TO they would be vilified?

I'll hang up an listen.
Maybe it's because everyone knows that he's a team player as opposed to a "ME" player, which both TO and CJ have shown over and over and over and over and over and over and over they are a "ME" PLAYER. You don't see Manning longing for the spotlight, all he cares about is winning. This shouldn't even be up for discussion.
If CJ was really a me guy why would he sleep at the team facility, or cry over losing a regular season game. Can you name a statistically successful QB who was considered a "me" guy?
 
Why is it OK for Manning to scream obscenities at his teamate, but if it were CJ/TO they would be vilified?

I'll hang up an listen.
Maybe it's because everyone knows that he's a team player as opposed to a "ME" player, which both TO and CJ have shown over and over and over and over and over and over and over they are a "ME" PLAYER. You don't see Manning longing for the spotlight, all he cares about is winning. This shouldn't even be up for discussion.
If CJ was really a me guy why would he sleep at the team facility, or cry over losing a regular season game. Can you name a statistically successful QB who was considered a "me" guy?
Don't make me answer that. If you need to be explained to why he is a me guy, then I have no chance at succeeding in doing so, so I will pass.
 
Why is it OK for Manning to scream obscenities at his teamate, but if it were CJ/TO they would be vilified?I'll hang up an listen.
Maybe it's because everyone knows that he's a team player as opposed to a "ME" player, which both TO and CJ have shown over and over and over and over and over and over and over they are a "ME" PLAYER. You don't see Manning longing for the spotlight, all he cares about is winning. This shouldn't even be up for discussion.
You dont see Manning longing for the spotlight? Who has more commercials in all the NFL? Right, nobody.
 
Why is it OK for Manning to scream obscenities at his teamate, but if it were CJ/TO they would be vilified?I'll hang up an listen.
Maybe it's because everyone knows that he's a team player as opposed to a "ME" player, which both TO and CJ have shown over and over and over and over and over and over and over they are a "ME" PLAYER. You don't see Manning longing for the spotlight, all he cares about is winning. This shouldn't even be up for discussion.
You dont see Manning longing for the spotlight? Who has more commercials in all the NFL? Right, nobody.
Manning doesn't long for the spotlight on the field, except to win. Players like TO and CJ want to draw attention to themselves during the games, whether it's on the sidelines wearing a HOF coat, or in the endzone in a choreographed celebration. That's not Manning's style, and that is what I was trying to say.
 
Why is it OK for Manning to scream obscenities at his teamate, but if it were CJ/TO they would be vilified?I'll hang up an listen.
Maybe it's because everyone knows that he's a team player as opposed to a "ME" player, which both TO and CJ have shown over and over and over and over and over and over and over they are a "ME" PLAYER. You don't see Manning longing for the spotlight, all he cares about is winning. This shouldn't even be up for discussion.
You dont see Manning longing for the spotlight? Who has more commercials in all the NFL? Right, nobody.
Manning doesn't long for the spotlight on the field, except to win. Players like TO and CJ want to draw attention to themselves during the games, whether it's on the sidelines wearing a HOF coat, or in the endzone in a choreographed celebration. That's not Manning's style, and that is what I was trying to say.
you forgot the "asking for a new contract or I wanna play somewhere else" demands . . .
 
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*raises hand*

I can remember times when I probably didn't act like a "nice guy" when I wanted to win. In fact, some of my best friends would probably tell you many a story where I was competitive in a way that went overboard..........but they are still my friends.

I don't like catching people in the midst of something heated or personal and then just isolating that moment and trying to dissect it.

 
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Why is it OK for Manning to scream obscenities at his teamate, but if it were CJ/TO they would be vilified?

I'll hang up an listen.
Maybe it's because everyone knows that he's a team player as opposed to a "ME" player, which both TO and CJ have shown over and over and over and over and over and over and over they are a "ME" PLAYER. You don't see Manning longing for the spotlight, all he cares about is winning. This shouldn't even be up for discussion.
You dont see Manning longing for the spotlight? Who has more commercials in all the NFL? Right, nobody.
Manning doesn't long for the spotlight on the field, except to win. Players like TO and CJ want to draw attention to themselves during the games, whether it's on the sidelines wearing a HOF coat, or in the endzone in a choreographed celebration. That's not Manning's style, and that is what I was trying to say.
you forgot the "asking for a new contract or I wanna play somewhere else" demands . . .
You have to provide a link to that, because I know it isn't true. Go ahead, make my day. I guarantee you that Manning never said such a thing and you should be banned from this site for lying.
 
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Why is it OK for Manning to scream obscenities at his teamate, but if it were CJ/TO they would be vilified?

I'll hang up an listen.
Maybe it's because everyone knows that he's a team player as opposed to a "ME" player, which both TO and CJ have shown over and over and over and over and over and over and over they are a "ME" PLAYER. You don't see Manning longing for the spotlight, all he cares about is winning. This shouldn't even be up for discussion.
You dont see Manning longing for the spotlight? Who has more commercials in all the NFL? Right, nobody.
Manning doesn't long for the spotlight on the field, except to win. Players like TO and CJ want to draw attention to themselves during the games, whether it's on the sidelines wearing a HOF coat, or in the endzone in a choreographed celebration. That's not Manning's style, and that is what I was trying to say.
you forgot the "asking for a new contract or I wanna play somewhere else" demands . . .
You have to provide a link to that, because I know it isn't true. Go ahead, make my day. I guarantee you that Manning never said such a thing and you should be banned from this site for lying.
I'm hoping he was referencing #85 with those comments?!
 
Why is it OK for Manning to scream obscenities at his teamate, but if it were CJ/TO they would be vilified?

I'll hang up an listen.
Maybe it's because everyone knows that he's a team player as opposed to a "ME" player, which both TO and CJ have shown over and over and over and over and over and over and over they are a "ME" PLAYER. You don't see Manning longing for the spotlight, all he cares about is winning. This shouldn't even be up for discussion.
You dont see Manning longing for the spotlight? Who has more commercials in all the NFL? Right, nobody.
Manning doesn't long for the spotlight on the field, except to win. Players like TO and CJ want to draw attention to themselves during the games, whether it's on the sidelines wearing a HOF coat, or in the endzone in a choreographed celebration. That's not Manning's style, and that is what I was trying to say.
you forgot the "asking for a new contract or I wanna play somewhere else" demands . . .
You have to provide a link to that, because I know it isn't true. Go ahead, make my day. I guarantee you that Manning never said such a thing and you should be banned from this site for lying.
I think it was obvious that I was talking about TO and CJ, but, if I wasn't clear, I apologize . . .

 
mcintyre1 said:
As a former O-lineman, I will say this. NEVER get in an argument with your O-line. There were better ways for him to handle that exchange. Just another reason for me to hate him.
:goodposting: Many of the great ones yelled at their lineman after getting sacked.
 
mdog1967 said:
He may very well be the nicest man on the planet in person. I don't like his celebrity persona or the Manning's family's tantrum during the Eli Manning draft. Eli was young and I don't hold him accountable for the BS during that draft. Your coming out of College having proved nothing, your father insists that there is no way you will play for San Diego. I don't like Manning as a QB because I think he is soft and too easily deflects blame onto his teammates without being direct about it. I perceive him as slightly devious and manipulative. I don't like seeing his little tantrums on the field followed by his finger pointing. Would I keep him as a Fantasy QB, damn right. Do I think he's a top QB in the NFL, damn right. Would I want him if I owned a NFL team, nope. There's more to it then being talented. There is high character and then their is high character, as long as Manning is winning he'll have it, lets see what happens when the team falters.

Should note I respect NFL players, but they are entertainment. I don't mind they make money - they entertain me. I never Idolize sports figures and they are not Hero's. So that may be why I cut across the grain of the average Sports Joe. My view of them is like TV Stars, shut up, look pretty(Play good football) and collect your pay check. Hey but thats just me. Sports is awesome but its a small, small slice of life. I'll take a humble EMT, Police Officer or Firefighter and of Course our folks in Uniform as Hero's, NFL players are very well paid entertainers - thats all.
Dang Mdog... I must respectfully disagree. It think it's about as far off base as you can get man. It sounds to me like just simply don't like him. Much like I don't like Brady. And I couldn't stand Aikmen back in his heyday either. I just hated them cuz they were/are so good! However, I do think Brady is full of BS.I wasn't too happy with how the Mannings handled Eli's draft either, but perhaps they were on to something. Seems to have really panned out for Eli though huh? Peyton is probably the most intelligent and competitive guy on that team. He expects the same from his team mates as he expects from himself. I'm sure he wouldn't be too thrilled to "lose". Who is? His character is immpecable, his worth ethic, his dedication, all of it.

I really think the bottom line is, if he's deflecting stuff onto his team mates, I'd say that usually he's right. He makes mistakes sure. And since i live in Indiana I get to watch them all the time. He has no problem admitting to a bad throw or whatever. But not to be an ### about it, I'd say that usually he IS right! The guy should go into coaching or even acting when he retires. He's always great in his commercials and on SNL, and his football brain is remarkable.

I guess the only thing that bothers me about Manning, is he kinda tightens his lips together when talking, in a "gosh dang it" kinda way. Drives me nuts. HA! But I think the world of him, and so does Indianapolis. He's a god around here. But so are many of the other players too. We all are just crazy about our team. Heck, I'd be willing to say that Jeff Saturday is as popular as Freeny around here!

I agree that real heroes are the guys that protect and serve our country and communities. It's just a game, and Manning is just a player. We make too much of it really and lose site of what's important. But our brains need that kind of break from reality I think, and athletes are just one of the ways that help forget about it all I guess.

One final note... Manning is VERY VERY good to his team mates. They all are very close, and this clip is something that is something that doesn't happen very often. Even Saturday laffed it off after the fact. It's the heat of battle kind of thing. These guys have been together a long time, and they are like blood to each other. Make no mistake... Manning is not disrespectful of his team mates EVER (aside from Vanderdouche).

Jason
A very good post. Its something to consider. The bold part is hilarious. Damn you Colts fans. :lmao: I cant say I'm going to change my mind in one post, but that was as close to a persuasive argument as any one could muster.

For now its back to stirring the DMAC will be a bust pot.
:goodposting: Good response Mdog!
 
Why is it OK for Manning to scream obscenities at his teamate, but if it were CJ/TO they would be vilified?I'll hang up an listen.
Maybe it's because everyone knows that he's a team player as opposed to a "ME" player, which both TO and CJ have shown over and over and over and over and over and over and over they are a "ME" PLAYER. You don't see Manning longing for the spotlight, all he cares about is winning. This shouldn't even be up for discussion.
You dont see Manning longing for the spotlight? Who has more commercials in all the NFL? Right, nobody.
Manning doesn't long for the spotlight on the field, except to win. Players like TO and CJ want to draw attention to themselves during the games, whether it's on the sidelines wearing a HOF coat, or in the endzone in a choreographed celebration. That's not Manning's style, and that is what I was trying to say.
That crazy Tourrette's thing he has going before every play waving his arms wildly isnt to draw attention to himself?
 
Why is it OK for Manning to scream obscenities at his teamate, but if it were CJ/TO they would be vilified?I'll hang up an listen.
Maybe it's because everyone knows that he's a team player as opposed to a "ME" player, which both TO and CJ have shown over and over and over and over and over and over and over they are a "ME" PLAYER. You don't see Manning longing for the spotlight, all he cares about is winning. This shouldn't even be up for discussion.
You dont see Manning longing for the spotlight? Who has more commercials in all the NFL? Right, nobody.
Manning doesn't long for the spotlight on the field, except to win. Players like TO and CJ want to draw attention to themselves during the games, whether it's on the sidelines wearing a HOF coat, or in the endzone in a choreographed celebration. That's not Manning's style, and that is what I was trying to say.
you forgot the "asking for a new contract or I wanna play somewhere else" demands . . .
You you get a $34 million dollar bonus there really isnt much else to ask for to be quite honest.
 
Why is it OK for Manning to scream obscenities at his teamate, but if it were CJ/TO they would be vilified?I'll hang up an listen.
Maybe it's because everyone knows that he's a team player as opposed to a "ME" player, which both TO and CJ have shown over and over and over and over and over and over and over they are a "ME" PLAYER. You don't see Manning longing for the spotlight, all he cares about is winning. This shouldn't even be up for discussion.
You dont see Manning longing for the spotlight? Who has more commercials in all the NFL? Right, nobody.
Manning doesn't long for the spotlight on the field, except to win. Players like TO and CJ want to draw attention to themselves during the games, whether it's on the sidelines wearing a HOF coat, or in the endzone in a choreographed celebration. That's not Manning's style, and that is what I was trying to say.
That crazy Tourrette's thing he has going before every play waving his arms wildly isnt to draw attention to himself?
No, it's his way of trying to win the game.
 
Why is it OK for Manning to scream obscenities at his teamate, but if it were CJ/TO they would be vilified?I'll hang up an listen.
Maybe it's because everyone knows that he's a team player as opposed to a "ME" player, which both TO and CJ have shown over and over and over and over and over and over and over they are a "ME" PLAYER. You don't see Manning longing for the spotlight, all he cares about is winning. This shouldn't even be up for discussion.
You dont see Manning longing for the spotlight? Who has more commercials in all the NFL? Right, nobody.
Manning doesn't long for the spotlight on the field, except to win. Players like TO and CJ want to draw attention to themselves during the games, whether it's on the sidelines wearing a HOF coat, or in the endzone in a choreographed celebration. That's not Manning's style, and that is what I was trying to say.
That crazy Tourrette's thing he has going before every play waving his arms wildly isnt to draw attention to himself?
No, it's his way of trying to win the game.
Isnt Chad trying to win the game by getting into the endzone? The dance is just residual to the touchdown.
 
Why is it OK for Manning to scream obscenities at his teamate, but if it were CJ/TO they would be vilified?I'll hang up an listen.
Maybe it's because everyone knows that he's a team player as opposed to a "ME" player, which both TO and CJ have shown over and over and over and over and over and over and over they are a "ME" PLAYER. You don't see Manning longing for the spotlight, all he cares about is winning. This shouldn't even be up for discussion.
You dont see Manning longing for the spotlight? Who has more commercials in all the NFL? Right, nobody.
Manning doesn't long for the spotlight on the field, except to win. Players like TO and CJ want to draw attention to themselves during the games, whether it's on the sidelines wearing a HOF coat, or in the endzone in a choreographed celebration. That's not Manning's style, and that is what I was trying to say.
That crazy Tourrette's thing he has going before every play waving his arms wildly isnt to draw attention to himself?
No, it's his way of trying to win the game.
Isnt Chad trying to win the game by getting into the endzone? The dance is just residual to the touchdown.
You are pretty invested into this Peyton hate. What's the deal?
 
Why is it OK for Manning to scream obscenities at his teamate, but if it were CJ/TO they would be vilified?I'll hang up an listen.
Maybe it's because everyone knows that he's a team player as opposed to a "ME" player, which both TO and CJ have shown over and over and over and over and over and over and over they are a "ME" PLAYER. You don't see Manning longing for the spotlight, all he cares about is winning. This shouldn't even be up for discussion.
You dont see Manning longing for the spotlight? Who has more commercials in all the NFL? Right, nobody.
Manning doesn't long for the spotlight on the field, except to win. Players like TO and CJ want to draw attention to themselves during the games, whether it's on the sidelines wearing a HOF coat, or in the endzone in a choreographed celebration. That's not Manning's style, and that is what I was trying to say.
That crazy Tourrette's thing he has going before every play waving his arms wildly isnt to draw attention to himself?
No, it's his way of trying to win the game.
Isnt Chad trying to win the game by getting into the endzone? The dance is just residual to the touchdown.
If you can't see the difference, I sure as hell won't explain it to you.
 
Why is it OK for Manning to scream obscenities at his teamate, but if it were CJ/TO they would be vilified?I'll hang up an listen.
Maybe it's because everyone knows that he's a team player as opposed to a "ME" player, which both TO and CJ have shown over and over and over and over and over and over and over they are a "ME" PLAYER. You don't see Manning longing for the spotlight, all he cares about is winning. This shouldn't even be up for discussion.
You dont see Manning longing for the spotlight? Who has more commercials in all the NFL? Right, nobody.
Manning doesn't long for the spotlight on the field, except to win. Players like TO and CJ want to draw attention to themselves during the games, whether it's on the sidelines wearing a HOF coat, or in the endzone in a choreographed celebration. That's not Manning's style, and that is what I was trying to say.
That crazy Tourrette's thing he has going before every play waving his arms wildly isnt to draw attention to himself?
No, it's his way of trying to win the game.
Isnt Chad trying to win the game by getting into the endzone? The dance is just residual to the touchdown.
You are pretty invested into this Peyton hate. What's the deal?
Trying to understand where Hoss is coming from. He seems to be trying to compare Peyton to other players that are considered "troublemakers" to put Peyton in the best light. I'm just saying its pretty easy not to ##### and moan when you are the highest paid player in the league and practically have ownership in the Colts. Not really fair comparisons if you ask me.
 

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