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Marcus McNeil down? Are you calling Cromartie a "waste" already, even though he's looked like the best Charger defensive back thus far?I'd love to have seen AJ make a more agressive move to shore up LT, but McNeil has the ability to be the guy very quickly and solve these woes for the next 5 yrs.Patience, my Bolt bretheren.
The only OL position worth spending a top pick is LT and they did that this year. Before that they signed Oben who did a great job before getting injured. Teams have shown over and over again that you can get quality guards and center late in the draft, like the Chargers did. Good DB's are hard to sign so the team has tried to draft them instead of signing FA's. It hasn't worked out that well, but Jammer gets better every year and Cromartie looks like he could be a future Pro Bowler.
How about every other year?
Man, if you rank Rivers below these two, especillay Kitna, you are asking for it. Rivers may be untested but he has a hell of a better supporting cast then Carr and Kitna. The Kitna issue in Detriot is a disaster. As for Carr, unless his o-line can keep him off his back, I dont care who he has on his team. Rivers has a premier RB and TE on his team that will keep the opposing D honest and make them them think twice about blitzing. Kinta and Carr don't have that. Not to mention the fact that Kitna has no arm and is about mobile as an anvil strapped to the back of a donkey. If I was unlucky enough to have to choose from the three, I'd take Rivers.
That's not true, they could easily surprise you in that weak division. You're acting like Joey Harrington was good or something and his absence will be missed. J. Kitna could easily step in and show everyone just how poor of a leader Harrington really was.Also, keep an eye out for D. Orlovsky. I've got posts in here somehwere over a year old talking about him. I went to the Toledo/Connecticut Motor City Bowl a couple years ago and had money on Toledo. Orlovsky absolutely ripped them apart and I was like.......dang, who is that guy. I remember raising an eyebrow when the Lions drafted him and thinking.....I like it.
I'm not talking about "top picks", I'm talking about day 1 picks. Do a quick comparison of the day 1 OL picks vs the day 1 DB picks. I'll agree with you that Cromartie is the one with the best chance to actually be good....... but he has the HUGE advantage that I haven't actually had the opportunity to see him play much.Jammer? Please. Am I the only Charger fan that STILL wishes they would have drafted Bryant McKinnie? For that matter people laughed at the Bengals for taking Levi Jones in the top of that draft. Jammer makes some big hits every season but wouldn't it be nice if the CB could keep the WR from getting the ball in the first place? He doesn't exactly have a history of stepping up when SD really needs a big stop vs the pass. I will admit that some of the OL prospects I really wanted them to take in the past haven't always panned out(Gallery, Jacob Rogers) but just look at the number of misses they have with DB's.
Top 6
I'll sign up at the top of that list. (Leave a lot of room.)Palmer's first season was 2004, not last year. He was good by first-year starter standards, but nowhere near top 6.Palmer's 2004 totals were 2897 passing yards/18 TDs, plus 47 rushing yards/1 TD for a weekly average of 16+ ppg (FBG scoring). Totals like these would have ranked around 20th in 2005 (in ppg). Performing at 16 ppg for 16 games would have placed 13th in 2005 for total points.I like Rivers as a top 12-15 threat, but I don't see SD allowing him to decide games until well into the season.
I think things worked out well the way they happened. Jammer has been disappointing in the past but he covered Moss well and held him to 4 for 47 and has improved every year. The Chargers built a pretty good OL through cheap free agents and late round picks and Oben was the key guy for the OL until he got hurt. Passing on McKinnie for Jammer allowed them to get McNeil and Cromartie this year and it seems like the Chargers could have one of the best DB combos if Cromartie turns out to be as good as people think.I'm not talking about "top picks", I'm talking about day 1 picks. Do a quick comparison of the day 1 OL picks vs the day 1 DB picks. I'll agree with you that Cromartie is the one with the best chance to actually be good....... but he has the HUGE advantage that I haven't actually had the opportunity to see him play much.Jammer? Please. Am I the only Charger fan that STILL wishes they would have drafted Bryant McKinnie? For that matter people laughed at the Bengals for taking Levi Jones in the top of that draft. Jammer makes some big hits every season but wouldn't it be nice if the CB could keep the WR from getting the ball in the first place? He doesn't exactly have a history of stepping up when SD really needs a big stop vs the pass.
I will admit that some of the OL prospects I really wanted them to take in the past haven't always panned out(Gallery, Jacob Rogers) but just look at the number of misses they have with DB's.
Would that be a donut or the number of wins against the Broncos this year?
I didn't look too bad with this assessment. I am a big believer in Rivers at this point. An absolute stand up athlete, the NFL needs more Rivers in it. I like watching him have command of the offense. At this point the Chargers simply need some more weapons at WR. Floyd iscoming along but is inconsistent. Parker, McCardell,,,the same player as far as I can see...Jackson showed yesterday why he would score about an 18 on the awareness factor in Madden '08 next season...San Diego fans have to be loving life. They got a better QB possibly in Rivers...most of you would pass on Manning at this point...and they seem like they can be solid for years to come. Now LT is in his 6th season...he has probably 2-3 more peak years at best so they need to close the deal quickly. I have them taking down the COlts in the AFC Championship game...and actually going on to win the Super bowl over Dallas at this point...but that's another thread.
Started him this week...expect Rivers' stock to plummet.Would that be a donut or the number of wins against the Broncos this year?
Jammer was just dreadful in that game and played a very big part in both of OAK's scores.Don't follow how Passing on McKinnie for Jammer allowed them to get McNeil and Cromartie this year? I'd much rather have Cromartie and Florence playing CB, McNeil and McKinnie playing OT, with Olivea playing G.I think things worked out well the way they happened. Jammer has been disappointing in the past but he covered Moss well and held him to 4 for 47 and has improved every year. The Chargers built a pretty good OL through cheap free agents and late round picks and Oben was the key guy for the OL until he got hurt. Passing on McKinnie for Jammer allowed them to get McNeil and Cromartie this year and it seems like the Chargers could have one of the best DB combos if Cromartie turns out to be as good as people think.I'm not talking about "top picks", I'm talking about day 1 picks. Do a quick comparison of the day 1 OL picks vs the day 1 DB picks. I'll agree with you that Cromartie is the one with the best chance to actually be good....... but he has the HUGE advantage that I haven't actually had the opportunity to see him play much.Jammer? Please. Am I the only Charger fan that STILL wishes they would have drafted Bryant McKinnie? For that matter people laughed at the Bengals for taking Levi Jones in the top of that draft. Jammer makes some big hits every season but wouldn't it be nice if the CB could keep the WR from getting the ball in the first place? He doesn't exactly have a history of stepping up when SD really needs a big stop vs the pass.
I will admit that some of the OL prospects I really wanted them to take in the past haven't always panned out(Gallery, Jacob Rogers) but just look at the number of misses they have with DB's.
I'm feeling pretty good about my preseason top 15 prediction.
