Phillip Seymour Hoffman (1 Viewer)

[17seconds]

Didn't they say he was found with a needle with heroine in it sticking out of his arm? So he died before even injecting more? That seems odd.

Taking the needle out takes a conscious effort. He probably got mega-high and forgot about the needle for a minute, then passed out.

 

[Guest]

I was the one that first brought up "suicide", and I had no basis for that. I thought he had a lot on hand, but as stated I know nothing about heroin.

Don't a lot of these ODs happen after falling off the wagon when they think they can handle as much as they did when using regularly and had a very high tolerance?

 

[Apple Jack]

Didn't they say he was found with a needle with heroine in it sticking out of his arm? So he died before even injecting more? That seems odd.

Taking the needle out takes a conscious effort. He probably got mega-high and forgot about the needle for a minute, then passed out.

You don't pass out, you die. This is a textbook IV OD. Most die with the needle in their arm.

 

[DSP]

I was the one that first brought up "suicide", and I had know basis for that. I thought he had a lot on hand, but as stated I know nothing about heroin.

Don't a lot of these ODs happen after falling off the wagon when they think they can handle as much as they did when using regularly and had a very high tolerance?

Yes. Ive known two guys who died from dope relapsing one night after long periods of sobriety

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I didn't realize he was estranged from his girlfriend. Going through a break up with someone he was with for 16 years, 3 kids. Can see how he fell off the wagon. obviously he was in a bad place.

Yep true, sad. Weak moments.

 

[Judge Smails]

Terrible news. Why do so many celebrities, particularly rock stars and movie stars, succumb to this? What is it in the culture of these professions that brings on such death seeking behavior? Never understood it.

Just a guess but I imagine they're trying to re-create the high they get from performing

One of the things that makes a great actor or writer or songwriter or artist is the ability to tap into every human emotion time and time again. They're able to expose all of those things that most of us regular people try to suppress.

That's the driving force behind a great song or poem or acting performance. It also means these artists are more prone to drink or use drugs etc.

So that might explain LSD, pot, coke, etc. Doubt that anyone would say that drinking or doing heroin "expands the mind". Though I've never done heroin, so I don't know. Looks like they just nod off into a stupor - not the most creative place.

 

[Apple Jack]

Terrible news. Why do so many celebrities, particularly rock stars and movie stars, succumb to this? What is it in the culture of these professions that brings on such death seeking behavior? Never understood it.

Just a guess but I imagine they're trying to re-create the high they get from performing

One of the things that makes a great actor or writer or songwriter or artist is the ability to tap into every human emotion time and time again. They're able to expose all of those things that most of us regular people try to suppress.

That's the driving force behind a great song or poem or acting performance. It also means these artists are more prone to drink or use drugs etc.

So that might explain LSD, pot, coke, etc. Doubt that anyone would say that drinking or doing heroin "expands the mind". Though I've never done heroin, so I don't know. Looks like they just nod off into a stupor - not the most creative place.

Heroin is the best, most overwhelmingly gratifying orgasm there is. "Expands the mind?" Sure, yes it does, but unfortunately everything after that experience becomes about getting it again. It gets in your kitchen and your ####ed. From a creative standpoint, yes, it is creative, but only on it's terms. But yeah, Bird, Ray, Miles, Jimi, Jerry...all junkies.

 

[DSP]

Terrible news. Why do so many celebrities, particularly rock stars and movie stars, succumb to this? What is it in the culture of these professions that brings on such death seeking behavior? Never understood it.

Just a guess but I imagine they're trying to re-create the high they get from performing

One of the things that makes a great actor or writer or songwriter or artist is the ability to tap into every human emotion time and time again. They're able to expose all of those things that most of us regular people try to suppress.

That's the driving force behind a great song or poem or acting performance. It also means these artists are more prone to drink or use drugs etc.

So that might explain LSD, pot, coke, etc. Doubt that anyone would say that drinking or doing heroin "expands the mind". Though I've never done heroin, so I don't know. Looks like they just nod off into a stupor - not the most creative place.

Heroin very much does expand the mind. Its amazing what you can think of with all your stress gone. If you dont do enough to pass out you can work for hours with no exhaustion and any physical contact feels amazing. Ive probably done some of my best writing on heroin

There is a very fine line with alcohol. If I drinl just the right amount I can go very deep in to my creative mind. Most of the time I go past that to quickly so its rare

 

[Judge Smails]

I learn something every day. Maybe I watched too much intervention. EVERY time someone injected heroin they were incoherent with eyes rolling in seconds.

Fully aware of the other creative, legendary junkies in the music business. I would think that many of those were on other drugs, and that if one had to bet their most creative years were not necessarily at the end when doing heroin. Again don't know from first hand experience. Just what I've seen - including 2 uncles OD'ing on heroin in my house growing up.

 

[DSP]

The people on intervention are inbthe final stages of a serious addiction and near death. Heroin in small amounts and preferably not injected doesnt do that

 

[simey]

He was one of my favorite character actors. His light went out too soon. RIP

 

[Zow]

Terrible news. Why do so many celebrities, particularly rock stars and movie stars, succumb to this? What is it in the culture of these professions that brings on such death seeking behavior? Never understood it.

Just a guess but I imagine they're trying to re-create the high they get from performing

One of the things that makes a great actor or writer or songwriter or artist is the ability to tap into every human emotion time and time again. They're able to expose all of those things that most of us regular people try to suppress.

That's the driving force behind a great song or poem or acting performance. It also means these artists are more prone to drink or use drugs etc.

So that might explain LSD, pot, coke, etc. Doubt that anyone would say that drinking or doing heroin "expands the mind". Though I've never done heroin, so I don't know. Looks like they just nod off into a stupor - not the most creative place.

Heroin is the best, most overwhelmingly gratifying orgasm there is. "Expands the mind?" Sure, yes it does, but unfortunately everything after that experience becomes about getting it again. It gets in your kitchen and your ####ed. From a creative standpoint, yes, it is creative, but only on it's terms. But yeah, Bird, Ray, Miles, Jimi, Jerry...all junkies.

Per experts I've spoken to, there is no better high than meth.

 

[GOB]

Wait, is MOP really feigning anger at an actor he has never met before for using drugs and overdosing?

Go see a psychiatrist or something bud.

It's a known fact that most folks who try and accuse others of being crazy or needing psycho therapy are typically projecting.

Define "known fact."

For example: "Guys turn gay because they get rejected by too many girls."

Is that a fact or just an opinion?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Reading now that he had split from his longtime love just a few months ago,

I don't get the whole suicide angle, it seems crass to raise unless there is reason to believe he had intent to do that. These are almost always classified as accidental. People use risky substances because they are addicted and can't resist. If he died of lung cancer we wouldn't be calling that a quasi suicide on the basis that known lethal risks of tobacco use translate to actual intent to die. By all appearances this is just another sad accidental death.

If the above is true then I think we can see what he was doing. Maybe she left him for doing the drugs or maybe he left so he could do the drugs as he pleased…rough.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

He was one of my favorite character actors. His light went out too soon. RIP

wat

 

[simey]

He was one of my favorite character actors. His light went out too soon. RIP

wat

 

[Rohn Jambo]

You know how when you're in deep relaxation your subconscious mind can break through to another dimension? I did this for about half a minute last night. Anyway, I was not able to get in touch with PSH.

 

[Daywalker]

I was the one that first brought up "suicide", and I had no basis for that. I thought he had a lot on hand, but as stated I know nothing about heroin.

Don't a lot of these ODs happen after falling off the wagon when they think they can handle as much as they did when using regularly and had a very high tolerance?

Sounds like he's been using for the past few years at least.

 

[cstu]

Terrible news. Why do so many celebrities, particularly rock stars and movie stars, succumb to this? What is it in the culture of these professions that brings on such death seeking behavior? Never understood it.

Just a guess but I imagine they're trying to re-create the high they get from performing

One of the things that makes a great actor or writer or songwriter or artist is the ability to tap into every human emotion time and time again. They're able to expose all of those things that most of us regular people try to suppress.

That's the driving force behind a great song or poem or acting performance. It also means these artists are more prone to drink or use drugs etc.

So that might explain LSD, pot, coke, etc. Doubt that anyone would say that drinking or doing heroin "expands the mind". Though I've never done heroin, so I don't know. Looks like they just nod off into a stupor - not the most creative place.

Heroin very much does expand the mind. Its amazing what you can think of with all your stress gone. If you dont do enough to pass out you can work for hours with no exhaustion and any physical contact feels amazing. Ive probably done some of my best writing on heroin

There is a very fine line with alcohol. If I drinl just the right amount I can go very deep in to my creative mind. Most of the time I go past that to quickly so its rare

ORLY?

 

[DSP]

Terrible news. Why do so many celebrities, particularly rock stars and movie stars, succumb to this? What is it in the culture of these professions that brings on such death seeking behavior? Never understood it.

Just a guess but I imagine they're trying to re-create the high they get from performing

One of the things that makes a great actor or writer or songwriter or artist is the ability to tap into every human emotion time and time again. They're able to expose all of those things that most of us regular people try to suppress.

That's the driving force behind a great song or poem or acting performance. It also means these artists are more prone to drink or use drugs etc.

So that might explain LSD, pot, coke, etc. Doubt that anyone would say that drinking or doing heroin "expands the mind". Though I've never done heroin, so I don't know. Looks like they just nod off into a stupor - not the most creative place.

Heroin very much does expand the mind. Its amazing what you can think of with all your stress gone. If you dont do enough to pass out you can work for hours with no exhaustion and any physical contact feels amazing. Ive probably done some of my best writing on heroinThere is a very fine line with alcohol. If I drinl just the right amount I can go very deep in to my creative mind. Most of the time I go past that to quickly so its rare

ORLY?

Yes. Im a songwriter and poet. That is why my punctuation and prose structure is pretty poor

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Heroin very much does expand the mind. Its amazing what you can think of with all your stress gone. If you dont do enough to pass out you can work for hours with no exhaustion and any physical contact feels amazing. Ive probably done some of my best writing on heroinThere is a very fine line with alcohol. If I drinl just the right amount I can go very deep in to my creative mind. Most of the time I go past that to quickly so its rare

ORLY?

Yes. Im a songwriter and poet. That is why my punctuation and prose structure is pretty poor

 

[DSP]

Heroin very much does expand the mind. Its amazing what you can think of with all your stress gone. If you dont do enough to pass out you can work for hours with no exhaustion and any physical contact feels amazing. Ive probably done some of my best writing on heroin

There is a very fine line with alcohol. If I drinl just the right amount I can go very deep in to my creative mind. Most of the time I go past that to quickly so its rare

ORLY?

Yes. Im a songwriter and poet. That is why my punctuation and prose structure is pretty poor

As someone who has played under the influence of many substances that clip is not accurateIf you are suggesting im not a good writer I would be happy to share some heroin poetry to prove you wrong

 

[Bob Magaw]

R.I.P.

He was brilliant at receding into and inhabiting the personalities and characters of others.

More difficult was the role of a lifetime - himself.

 

[wazoo11]

I forgot he was in the movie Twister.

 

[McGarnicle]

R.I.P.

He was brilliant at receding into and inhabiting the personalities and characters of others.

More difficult was the role of a lifetime - himself.

[keanureeves]

Whoa.

[/keanureeves]

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Clearly a man battling his demons:

http://pagesix.com/2014/02/04/hoffmans-haunting-confession-im-a-heroin-addict/?_ga=1.163052213.801862637.1387812102

The Oscar-winning actor made the bizarre admission to magazine publisher John Arundel at the Sundance Film Festival in Park City, Utah, after the businessman didn’t immediately recognize him and asked what he did for a living.

“He said, ‘I’m a heroin addict,’ ” the Washington Life Magazine co-publisher recalled for The Post on Monday.

That picture is haunting:

http://nyppagesix.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/2014_sundance_tin_type_portraits_-_philip_seymour__88178501.jpg?w=720&h=480&crop=1

 

[Tom Skerritt]

NYPost article says that his gf kicked him out of their apartment recently. She must feel tremendous guilt and somewhat responsible. Not saying she deserves to, just that it's the reality of the situation.

 

[LinusMarr]

Clearly a man battling his demons:

http://pagesix.com/2014/02/04/hoffmans-haunting-confession-im-a-heroin-addict/?_ga=1.163052213.801862637.1387812102

The Oscar-winning actor made the bizarre admission to magazine publisher John Arundel at the Sundance Film Festival in Park City, Utah, after the businessman didn’t immediately recognize him and asked what he did for a living.

“He said, ‘I’m a heroin addict,’ ” the Washington Life Magazine co-publisher recalled for The Post on Monday.

That picture is haunting:

http://nyppagesix.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/2014_sundance_tin_type_portraits_-_philip_seymour__88178501.jpg?w=720&h=480&crop=1

Thats great "acting"...

 

[meanjoegreen]

NYPost article says that his gf kicked him out of their apartment recently. She must feel tremendous guilt and somewhat responsible. Not saying she deserves to, just that it's the reality of the situation.

He very well could have been shooting heroin in their apartment, which led to her wanting him to leave. It could have been the children that found him had he been in the apt with them. He was in a rehab not that long ago, and there could have been ultimatums about if he started using again. You can't enable someone. She shouldn't feel tremendous guilt or responsibility.

 

[McGarnicle]

Watched the Talented Mr. Ripley Monday night, Hard Eight last night, and I've got Owning Mahowney on the way from Netflix. Next in my queue:

Charlie Wilson's War

Doubt

Magnolia

Before the Devil Knows You're Dead

Jack Goes Boating

I've seen most of these already but just want to see his performances again. :(

 

[Smack Tripper]

Watched the Talented Mr. Ripley Monday night, Hard Eight last night, and I've got Owning Mahowney on the way from Netflix. Next in my queue:

Charlie Wilson's War

Doubt

Magnolia

Before the Devil Knows You're Dead

Jack Goes Boating

I've seen most of these already but just want to see his performances again. :(

Charlie Wilson's War, Almost Famous, or strangely, in a small seemingly inconsequential park, Scent of a Woman are my favorite performances of his. But I should watch the Devil again.

 

[Swing 51]

I've seen most of these already but just want to see his performances again. :(

I've been doing the same. Have Ides of March on the way. Not sure if I can stomach Along Came Polly tho.

 

[McGarnicle]

I've seen most of these already but just want to see his performances again. :(

I've been doing the same. Have Ides of March on the way. Not sure if I can stomach Along Came Polly tho.

Ides of March is one of my favorites. Already saw it in the theater and again about a month ago though.

Hate to admit it, but I wasn't able to finish Capote. Something with that voice affectation. Didn't make me laugh hysterically like Michael Douglas playing Liberace, but just couldn't get into the movie. Maybe I should try again.

 

[omally]

I've seen most of these already but just want to see his performances again. :(

I've been doing the same. Have Ides of March on the way. Not sure if I can stomach Along Came Polly tho.

PSH is the best thing about Along Came Polly. He stole every scene, and was great as Sandy. As mentioned in this thread, he was a great character actor.

 

[Apple Jack]

PSH, Hank Azaria, and Alec Baldwin are all hilarious in Along Came Polly.

 

[pollardsvision]

PSH, Hank Azaria, and Alec Baldwin are all hilarious in Along Came Polly.

Yeah, that movie had no business being entertaining, or maybe even watchable, but those performances make it so.

I was pretty shocked to hear Bill Simmons doing a podcast mostly about PSH, and he had never even heard of this movie. I could understand not rushing out to see it, but for a guy that watches so much reality TV and wrestling, I wouldn't think romantic comedies would be beneath him.

 

[optionmaven]

Loved his role in Almost Famous.

 

[pollardsvision]

Loved his role in Almost Famous.

Also heard on that podcast, PSH was only available for shooting for 3 days and was sick for that role.

 

[Smack Tripper]

I've seen most of these already but just want to see his performances again. :(

I've been doing the same. Have Ides of March on the way. Not sure if I can stomach Along Came Polly tho.

oh wow you're in for a treat hes great in ides forgot that

 

[cstu]

I've seen most of these already but just want to see his performances again. :(

I've been doing the same. Have Ides of March on the way. Not sure if I can stomach Along Came Polly tho.

Ides of March is one of my favorites. Already saw it in the theater and again about a month ago though.

Hate to admit it, but I wasn't able to finish Capote. Something with that voice affectation. Didn't make me laugh hysterically like Michael Douglas playing Liberace, but just couldn't get into the movie. Maybe I should try again.

PSH was great in the role but the movie was not that enjoyable.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

Watched the Talented Mr. Ripley Monday night, Hard Eight last night, and I've got Owning Mahowney on the way from Netflix. Next in my queue:

Charlie Wilson's War

Doubt

Magnolia

Before the Devil Knows You're Dead

Jack Goes Boating

I've seen most of these already but just want to see his performances again. :(

Skip Magnolia and Before The DKYD and go straight to Almost Famous. It's a much better film than those 2!

 

[cstu]

NYPost article says that his gf kicked him out of their apartment recently. She must feel tremendous guilt and somewhat responsible. Not saying she deserves to, just that it's the reality of the situation.

He very well could have been shooting heroin in their apartment, which led to her wanting him to leave. It could have been the children that found him had he been in the apt with them. He was in a rehab not that long ago, and there could have been ultimatums about if he started using again. You can't enable someone. She shouldn't feel tremendous guilt or responsibility.

It's hindsight but what she should have done is enlist of the help of his friends or even come out publicly about his addiction. I can't imagine just kicking a heroin addict out and hoping it all turns out alright.

 

[McGarnicle]

Watched the Talented Mr. Ripley Monday night, Hard Eight last night, and I've got Owning Mahowney on the way from Netflix. Next in my queue:

Charlie Wilson's War

Doubt

Magnolia

Before the Devil Knows You're Dead

Jack Goes Boating

I've seen most of these already but just want to see his performances again. :(

Skip Magnolia and Before The DKYD and go straight to Almost Famous. It's a much better film than those 2!

Yeah I've probably watched that one more than all these others combined.

 

[Psychopav]

Watched the Talented Mr. Ripley Monday night, Hard Eight last night, and I've got Owning Mahowney on the way from Netflix. Next in my queue:

Charlie Wilson's War

Doubt

Magnolia

Before the Devil Knows You're Dead

Jack Goes Boating

I've seen most of these already but just want to see his performances again. :(

Skip Magnolia and Before The DKYD and go straight to Almost Famous. It's a much better film than those 2!

Yeah I've probably watched that one more than all these others combined.

The whole thing, or just one scene?

 

[17seconds]

He was one of my favorite character actors. His light went out too soon. RIP

wat

are you not aware he played characters? duh

 

[KarmaPolice]

Watched the Talented Mr. Ripley Monday night, Hard Eight last night, and I've got Owning Mahowney on the way from Netflix. Next in my queue:

Charlie Wilson's War

Doubt

Magnolia

Before the Devil Knows You're Dead

Jack Goes Boating

I've seen most of these already but just want to see his performances again. :(

Skip Magnolia and Before The DKYD and go straight to Almost Famous. It's a much better film than those 2!

oh god, no.

almost famous is severely overrated. psh is about the only redeeming thing about that movie. used to like it, but find it unwatchable now.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Watched the Talented Mr. Ripley Monday night, Hard Eight last night, and I've got Owning Mahowney on the way from Netflix. Next in my queue:

Charlie Wilson's War

Doubt

Magnolia

Before the Devil Knows You're Dead

Jack Goes Boating

I've seen most of these already but just want to see his performances again. :(

doing the same thing this week. the film version of pouring a 40 out.

realized there are a few roles I haven't seen yet: happiness, jack goes boating, owning mahowney, and late quartet. trying to get my hands on them. watched Doubt and Boogie Nights last night.

 

[Apple Jack]

Please report back to the thread after Happiness.

I need to see Jack Goes Boating. I figure he must have been a great director.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

He was one of my favorite character actors. His light went out too soon. RIP

wat

are you not aware he played characters? duh

I think that term is generally used for actors who play smaller roles that aren't as well known.

I'd say PSH started out as a great character actor but became way too famous and had enough leading roles to break out of that classification.

either way, he had the range to do it all. lead, supporting role, cameo, character, whatever.

 

[Apple Jack]

Terrible news. Why do so many celebrities, particularly rock stars and movie stars, succumb to this? What is it in the culture of these professions that brings on such death seeking behavior? Never understood it.

Just a guess but I imagine they're trying to re-create the high they get from performing

One of the things that makes a great actor or writer or songwriter or artist is the ability to tap into every human emotion time and time again. They're able to expose all of those things that most of us regular people try to suppress.

That's the driving force behind a great song or poem or acting performance. It also means these artists are more prone to drink or use drugs etc.

So that might explain LSD, pot, coke, etc. Doubt that anyone would say that drinking or doing heroin "expands the mind". Though I've never done heroin, so I don't know. Looks like they just nod off into a stupor - not the most creative place.

Heroin is the best, most overwhelmingly gratifying orgasm there is. "Expands the mind?" Sure, yes it does, but unfortunately everything after that experience becomes about getting it again. It gets in your kitchen and your ####ed. From a creative standpoint, yes, it is creative, but only on it's terms. But yeah, Bird, Ray, Miles, Jimi, Jerry...all junkies.

Maybe to a junkie. Heroin and drugs in general are for the weak. Let me correct my statement drug addicts are weak

And sweeping judgments of strangers is for the ######ed.