Godsbrother
Footballguy
Yeah Tomlin certainly has his faults but then all coaches do, even BB. In fact, BB was very fortunate that Atlanta's coaching staff made some dreadful mistakes in the 2nd half.
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5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Belly-chick has had his last two Lombardi's handed to him because opposing coaches refused to, no pun intended, hand off the ball. The Pats pulled it out and deserved to win....but Atlanta choked BIG time, as Seattle did to a lesser degree in '14.
And that's all I'm going to say about the Patriots SB win.
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bucksoh
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Tomlin is a bottom 5 coach without Ben.
History tells us there is not a lot of top coaches without a top QB. B.B. might be a top 20 coach without Brady, were gonna find out about the latter sooner unfortunately. In the meantime Tomlin will have ruined Ben's career. And 3-5 years after Ben retires Tomlin will finally get fired from the Steelers. At least I hope.
History tells us there is not a lot of top coaches without a top QB. B.B. might be a top 20 coach without Brady, were gonna find out about the latter sooner unfortunately. In the meantime Tomlin will have ruined Ben's career. And 3-5 years after Ben retires Tomlin will finally get fired from the Steelers. At least I hope.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I agree that they should keep Tomlin, but let's remember that he inherited a great team (one that was a year removed from winning the Super Bowl). His Super Bowl win was basically with Cowher's team. He averages 10 wins a season, which is pretty hard NOT to do when you have a QB most agree is destined for the Hall of Fame. Tomlin is a good coach, but I think just about any good coach could have done really well in the late 00s in Pittsburgh while inheriting a HOF QB and top D.
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Godsbrother
Footballguy
Maybe and I don't disagree that Tomlin is a good coach and possibly not more. But Cowher could only muster 8-8 with that team one year removed from the Super Bowl. And that was 10 years ago. Aside from James Harrison and Ben Roethlisberger, those players are long gone. This is and has been Tomlin's team for quite some time.
steelers1080
Footballguy
Justin Gilbert released. Xavier Grimble signed to a 1-year deal. He'll compete for a spot in training camp, but I could see him being cut if they draft a TE and Green is healthy. If they cut Green I think it's a $3.5 million dollar cap hit. They'd only do that if they're very unsure about his health moving forward AND get a TE in the first 3 rounds of this year's draft.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I like the decision to bring back Grimble. He's got the size you like and played well at times. Still a project but definitely showed potential.steelers1080 said:
Apparently the Steelers were able to cut Gilbert without any money or cap concerns though it will still cost them a 6th round pick. There is some speculation they could bring Gilbert back in after free agency begins and let him compete for a roster spot.
Speaking of draft picks I read the Steelers will likely get a 5th round compensatory pick for Kelvin Beachum so basically the lost pick associated with Gilbert is a wash.
steelers1080
Footballguy
The Gilbert pick is a 2018 6th, so we'd still have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5, 6, 7 this year.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
steelers1080
Footballguy
Could/should the Steelers try and swoop in and steal Junior Galette? He's been injured the past 2 seasons, and has questions about his character, but he was a pass rushing machine. It would be a pretty big gamble.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
per rotoworld, he is under contract with Washington for 2017
The Redskins already have OLB Junior Galette under contract for 2017.
Galette's one-year contract tolled after he spent all last season on the NFI list. There was some confusion after Washington tweaked his deal last week. Galette hasn't played since 2014 but gives the Redskins another pass rusher when healthy. He's expected to be ready for the start of 2017. Feb 4 - 5:10 PM
steelers1080
Footballguy
Oh well.
In other news, Kelvin Beachum's contract wasn't picked up by the Jags. They could resign him before he hits FA for less money, but if he decides to test FA (which he should do since they didn't show faith in him) I think the Steelers should dip their toe in the waters. He was a great starting LT for us and I think would be an upgrade at the position.
In other news, Kelvin Beachum's contract wasn't picked up by the Jags. They could resign him before he hits FA for less money, but if he decides to test FA (which he should do since they didn't show faith in him) I think the Steelers should dip their toe in the waters. He was a great starting LT for us and I think would be an upgrade at the position.
steelers1080
Footballguy
Steelers to let Timmons test Free Agency. Colbert stated that it would be nice to have him back and that he could fit into their plans, but it would have to be at the right price. I could see Timmons giving the Steelers a home town discount, but it's not a guarantee.
Steelers resign Chickillo to 1-year deal. Allegedly trying to lock up Villanueva in a long-term deal. Resigned Steven Johnson, a special teams player.
Steelers signed Karlos Williams to a reserve/futures contract. Looks like they won't cut him loose after his troubles. Could be a great 1-2 punch with Leveon if he can stay on the field. Was a TD machine in Buffalo.
Steelers trying to sign Landry Jones. View him as better than 80% of the other backups in the league. Really hope they don't overpay him.
Steelers allegedly showing interest in Cordarelle Patterson. View him as a decent deep threat and red zone target that could try to revitalize his career with a top QB. Just kidding, no interest being shown, but wouldn't that be an interesting pickup? Could help our return game a lot.
Steelers resign Chickillo to 1-year deal. Allegedly trying to lock up Villanueva in a long-term deal. Resigned Steven Johnson, a special teams player.
Steelers signed Karlos Williams to a reserve/futures contract. Looks like they won't cut him loose after his troubles. Could be a great 1-2 punch with Leveon if he can stay on the field. Was a TD machine in Buffalo.
Steelers trying to sign Landry Jones. View him as better than 80% of the other backups in the league. Really hope they don't overpay him.
Steelers allegedly showing interest in Cordarelle Patterson. View him as a decent deep threat and red zone target that could try to revitalize his career with a top QB. Just kidding, no interest being shown, but wouldn't that be an interesting pickup? Could help our return game a lot.
steelers1080
Footballguy
Leveon Bell apparently doesn't need surgery on his groin. This is good news, probably. He had 1 doc say he needed it and 2 said he didn't. Really hoping it doesn't become a nagging injury that he ends up having surgery on midway through next season.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I'm guessing someone is going to give Timmons more than the Steelers want to pay him. If so, he will be missed but you can't overpay for a 33 yard old LB.
Hopefully Williams works out but I hope they have a better plan for #2 RB besides Williams and Toussaint.
I am not as down on Landry as others but I certainly wouldn't be throwing a lot of cash at him.
Evilgrin 72
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Timmons is only 30 (but will be 31 at the start of next season) - unless you're talking about his age at the end of an expected 2-year deal. I think the main factor with him will be that they paid Vince Williams to be the starter there when it appeared Timmons was on the downslope - he rebounded and had a good year, but they're kind of pot-committed to Vince at this point. They can't pay Timmons what he's "worth" on the open market and also pay his back-up starter money.Godsbrother said:
steelers1080
Footballguy
Vince Williams signed a 3-year $5.5 million contract. That's not starter money. I wouldn't be surprised if they resigned Harrison and Timmons to 2-year deals. They're probably letting him test the market to show that he's not THAT in demand. Also, could see the Steelers going ILB in the first 2 rounds if the right player falls. Vince is pretty solid at run defense, but he's just not fast enough to cover for any lengthy amount of time.
Also, mock drafts are starting to get ridiculous. Most have recently shown the Steelers taking Hasaan Reddick, Taco Charlton, Any number of CBs, or Corey Davis, but some are starting to show players that are graded at 3rd rounders or below. The Steelers don't reach that far for players. I know it worked out for the Cowboys when they took Travis Frederick, but usually players are graded that low for a reason.
Also, mock drafts are starting to get ridiculous. Most have recently shown the Steelers taking Hasaan Reddick, Taco Charlton, Any number of CBs, or Corey Davis, but some are starting to show players that are graded at 3rd rounders or below. The Steelers don't reach that far for players. I know it worked out for the Cowboys when they took Travis Frederick, but usually players are graded that low for a reason.
Evilgrin 72
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You're right. When I originally saw that he was re-signed, it was either incorrectly printed or I mis-read it as 3 years at $5.5 million PER. Never looked again. That's what I was basing this on, so forget pretty much everything I said.
steelers1080
Footballguy
Updated Steelers Mock:
1. TRADE - We trade our pick to the 49ers or Chicago who are looking to move back into round 1 ahead of Cleveland to take a QB. Give pick 30 for picks 36, 111, and 221. With the 36th overall pick the Steelers select - Raekwon McMillan ILB Ohio St. We'd gain a very solid ILB to pair with Shazier, and extra picks. This is assuming no top-20 talent falls to us at 30.
2. Tim Williams OLB Alabama - A semi-surprising slide due to his off the field issues and being a 1-trick pony. He's currently just a pass rushing specialist, and he has had several run-ins with the law already. He could fall to our 2nd pick and provide a spark when we need to get after the QB. He's a liability in the running game, but we could pair him in a rotation with Chickillo or another more secure run stopping OLB.
3. Derek Rivers OLB Youngstown St - Some mocks are now sending him to the Steelers in the 1st round, but I think that teams will have some trepidation over selecting a small school talent that high. Many people are saying that since the Steelers took Hargrave last year, they'll take Rivers this year, since both are from small schools. And taking him in the 3rd, the same round as Hargrave, is a lot more palatable. We'd be doubling down on pass rusher, but it's our weakest area by far and the talent is falling to us.
3. Jake Butt TE Michigan - A big, strong, injured TE.
4. Fabian Moreau CB UCLA - Could go much higher, but is being projected all over the place. Would help solidify our CB core, great talent at this pick.
4. Kareem Hunt RB Toledo - A solid backup RB. (Could be Gallman if he falls this far)
5. Josh Reynolds WR Texas A&M - A tall WR who can be a solid red-zone target.
6. Eddie Vanderdoes DT UCLA - A solid d-lineman who could add depth potentially.
7. Xavier Woods SS Louisiana Tech - Solid safety prospect who shows leadership skills, a defining Steelers attribute.
7. Chad Kelly QB Ole Miss - A flyer on a QB who once showed a lot of promise but has plenty of on and off the field issues.
This draft would get us a starting ILB next to Shazier, 2 edge rushers who could work in rotation to keep them fresh their rookie year (they could also learn from the best how to be the best (Harrison)), a solid TE, CB and S help, a backup RB, a WR red zone prospect, D-line depth, and a potential backup QB. If we could get half that, it would be a very solid draft.
1. TRADE - We trade our pick to the 49ers or Chicago who are looking to move back into round 1 ahead of Cleveland to take a QB. Give pick 30 for picks 36, 111, and 221. With the 36th overall pick the Steelers select - Raekwon McMillan ILB Ohio St. We'd gain a very solid ILB to pair with Shazier, and extra picks. This is assuming no top-20 talent falls to us at 30.
2. Tim Williams OLB Alabama - A semi-surprising slide due to his off the field issues and being a 1-trick pony. He's currently just a pass rushing specialist, and he has had several run-ins with the law already. He could fall to our 2nd pick and provide a spark when we need to get after the QB. He's a liability in the running game, but we could pair him in a rotation with Chickillo or another more secure run stopping OLB.
3. Derek Rivers OLB Youngstown St - Some mocks are now sending him to the Steelers in the 1st round, but I think that teams will have some trepidation over selecting a small school talent that high. Many people are saying that since the Steelers took Hargrave last year, they'll take Rivers this year, since both are from small schools. And taking him in the 3rd, the same round as Hargrave, is a lot more palatable. We'd be doubling down on pass rusher, but it's our weakest area by far and the talent is falling to us.
3. Jake Butt TE Michigan - A big, strong, injured TE.
4. Fabian Moreau CB UCLA - Could go much higher, but is being projected all over the place. Would help solidify our CB core, great talent at this pick.
4. Kareem Hunt RB Toledo - A solid backup RB. (Could be Gallman if he falls this far)
5. Josh Reynolds WR Texas A&M - A tall WR who can be a solid red-zone target.
6. Eddie Vanderdoes DT UCLA - A solid d-lineman who could add depth potentially.
7. Xavier Woods SS Louisiana Tech - Solid safety prospect who shows leadership skills, a defining Steelers attribute.
7. Chad Kelly QB Ole Miss - A flyer on a QB who once showed a lot of promise but has plenty of on and off the field issues.
This draft would get us a starting ILB next to Shazier, 2 edge rushers who could work in rotation to keep them fresh their rookie year (they could also learn from the best how to be the best (Harrison)), a solid TE, CB and S help, a backup RB, a WR red zone prospect, D-line depth, and a potential backup QB. If we could get half that, it would be a very solid draft.
Can someone please explain to me how the franchise tag for RB's can be more than any RB is likely to be paid next season? I thought it was supposed to be average of 5 highest paid, this is likely more than anyone once Vikings cut Peterson.
Thanks for trying to answer, and maybe you did.I think the average includes guaranteed money, but that is just a guess. It's a good question that is harder to answer than I thought.
I took their average salary (from here), added the "practical guarantees" and divided by the number of years and got:
Peterson $20.67M
Charles $11.65M
McCoy $11.90M
Stewart $10.15M
Martin $8.40M
which gives an average of $12.55M
One of the reasons I asked, and I know this is an odd source-which is a Dallas based sports radio show, but they were discussing Bell's franchise tag amount on-air a few days ago.
What they discussed was that if Peterson and Charles were cut it would lower Bell's franchise tag amount $2M, which may be accurate. Secondly they said the amount would drop from $9M to around $7M which does not seem accurate.
Their numbers sound off, but if Peterson and Charles are cut would that alter the franchise tag or would that impact not go into impact until next season. Peterson in particular could really lower that tag amount if his contract is out of the picture.
steelers1080
Footballguy
A $68 Million, 4-year extension with $19 million in a signing bonus.
I'm looking forward to the details of this contract. It will be interesting to see the guarantees of the final 2 years of the contract. Brown has shown that without Ben, he's not quite the same. That can be due to the skill level of the backup QBs, but it could also be that one of his biggest assets is his bond with Ben and them almost having a psychic connection of what the other will do. If Ben leaves in the next 3 years it will be interesting to see if the Steelers keep Brown or try and trade him for assets to rebuild.
We also need to resign Shazier and Tuitt soon.
I'm looking forward to the details of this contract. It will be interesting to see the guarantees of the final 2 years of the contract. Brown has shown that without Ben, he's not quite the same. That can be due to the skill level of the backup QBs, but it could also be that one of his biggest assets is his bond with Ben and them almost having a psychic connection of what the other will do. If Ben leaves in the next 3 years it will be interesting to see if the Steelers keep Brown or try and trade him for assets to rebuild.
We also need to resign Shazier and Tuitt soon.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
YEAR
BASE SALARY
BONUS PRORATION
ROSTER BONUS
CAP CHARGE
2017
$910,000
$12,708,334
$-
$13,618,334
2018
$7,875,000
$3,800,000
$6,000,000
$17,675,000
2019
$12,625,000
$3,800,000
$2,500,000
$18,925,000
2020
$11,300,000
$3,800,000
$-
$15,100,000
2021
$12,500,000
$3,800,000
$-
$16,300,000
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Formatting isn't great there, but a few takeaways.
1) Roster bonuses can be converted to signing bonus and prorated across the length of the deal if the Steelers unexpectedly need to clear significant cap space.
2) They wisely dumped most of the money into the first three years of the deal. If Roethlisberger plays out the last 3 years of his deal and then hangs it up (as I suspect may be the case) -Brown is very "cuttable" after 3 seasons without a catastrophic accelerated cap charge. They could move on after the 2019 season with only a $7.6M dead-money charge, which isn't cost-prohibitive at all. I don't think any expects his play to fall off a cliff after his age 31 season, but if it did, or if the Steelers decide to go whole-hog into a rebuild if Ben retires, then they would be off the hook for $24mm in salary over the 2020-2021 seasons with a minimal cap hit. Or,. they could look to trade him - 2 years at $31.4mm is steep, but we don't know how that will look in 2020 - that may be a bargain deal after Beckham et al get new contracts. If he's still a 100 catch, 1,200 yard, 10 TD guy at age 31, someone will gladly accept that contract.
This is a very well-structured deal, and one under which everyone wins. Moving 2017 salary to 2016 to keep him happy and on the field essentially makes this a 6-year megabucks deal (under which he's already played 1 season) but doesn't hamstring the team. It makes him the highest paid WR in the NFL and kept him happy even under the auspices of the old deal while allowing the Steelers to not break precedent of only negotiating non-QB extensions when players are 1 year from free agency.
1) Roster bonuses can be converted to signing bonus and prorated across the length of the deal if the Steelers unexpectedly need to clear significant cap space.
2) They wisely dumped most of the money into the first three years of the deal. If Roethlisberger plays out the last 3 years of his deal and then hangs it up (as I suspect may be the case) -Brown is very "cuttable" after 3 seasons without a catastrophic accelerated cap charge. They could move on after the 2019 season with only a $7.6M dead-money charge, which isn't cost-prohibitive at all. I don't think any expects his play to fall off a cliff after his age 31 season, but if it did, or if the Steelers decide to go whole-hog into a rebuild if Ben retires, then they would be off the hook for $24mm in salary over the 2020-2021 seasons with a minimal cap hit. Or,. they could look to trade him - 2 years at $31.4mm is steep, but we don't know how that will look in 2020 - that may be a bargain deal after Beckham et al get new contracts. If he's still a 100 catch, 1,200 yard, 10 TD guy at age 31, someone will gladly accept that contract.
This is a very well-structured deal, and one under which everyone wins. Moving 2017 salary to 2016 to keep him happy and on the field essentially makes this a 6-year megabucks deal (under which he's already played 1 season) but doesn't hamstring the team. It makes him the highest paid WR in the NFL and kept him happy even under the auspices of the old deal while allowing the Steelers to not break precedent of only negotiating non-QB extensions when players are 1 year from free agency.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
Evilgrin 72 said:
steelers1080
Footballguy
The way Antonio plays, if he can avoid major injury there's no reason to think he can't play at a high level for at least 5 more years. It's not common, but the level of effort he puts in is uncommon, and he's more based upon precision than speed, so he could last longer than most.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
Adam Schefter
✔@AdamSchefter
James Harrison and Steelers reached agreement on 2 year, $3.5 million deal, per source.
1:54 PM - 1 Mar 2017
✔@AdamSchefter
James Harrison and Steelers reached agreement on 2 year, $3.5 million deal, per source.
1:54 PM - 1 Mar 2017
Evilgrin 72
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Cannot believe he's STILL our best pass rusher. They have to double-dip at OLB in the draft and/or free agency. This is a great deal....Adam Schefter
✔@AdamSchefter
James Harrison and Steelers reached agreement on 2 year, $3.5 million deal, per source.
1:54 PM - 1 Mar 2017
steelers1080
Footballguy
Dupree is going to be the better pass rusher next year. If he gets a full, healthy offseason he should have a beastly year.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I sure hope so, I'm optimistic that will be the case. As of right now, though - if we needed one guy to get a sack in a big spot in a game that was being played tomorrow - I'd still go with Debo. He was a menace in the playoffs.
I am very high on Dupree though - I think a Vic Beasley-like "leap" could be coming in year 3. He has all the tools, if he refines his arsenal, he'll be close to unstoppable. Question is, does he have what it takes mentally to "figure out" how to beat tackles in the NFL. Time will tell.
steelers1080
Footballguy
Also, I think that one of their first 2 picks will be a pass rusher. Someone who can train with and learn from Harrison for 2 years, and spell him so he doesn't wear down during the season.
Really hoping some guys destroy the combine so that actual talented players fall in the draft. Not a huge fan of the combine heroes, show me the game tape any day.
Really hoping some guys destroy the combine so that actual talented players fall in the draft. Not a huge fan of the combine heroes, show me the game tape any day.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Fortuitously, this draft is deep at pass rush and secondary. Just so happens to be our two biggest need areas.steelers1080 said:
steelers1080
Footballguy
I'd argue our biggest need right now is ILB. We have bodies in the secondary and Harrison, but Vince Williams at ILB would be a huge liability in coverage. Also, if Green doesn't recover from his concussion issues, TE is another huge need in a deep TE class.
If we go OLB, ILB, CB, or TE in the first, second, third, and third, I'd be ecstatic.
steelers1080
Footballguy
Steelers combine meetings:
- Josh Reynolds WR Texas A&M
- Evan Engram TE Ole Miss
- Mike Roberts TE Toledo
- Gerald Everett TE South Alabama
- Cooper Rush QB Central Michigan
- Patrick Mahomes QB Texas Tech
- D'Onta Foreman RB Texas
- Wayne Gallman RB Clemson
- Tim Williams OLB Alabama
- Haason Reddick LB Temple
- Demarcus Walker EDGE Florida St
- TJ Watt EDGE Wisconsin
- Derek Rivers EDGE Youngstown St
- Jojo Mathis EDGE Washington
- Ryan Williams LB Alabama
- Fadol Brown DE Mississippi
- Duke Riley OLB LSU
- Tashawn Bower DE LSU
- Carl Lawson EDGE Auburn
- Devonte Fields DE Louisville
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
OK, now that the combine is effectively over - let's take a position-by-position look at the roster. Who's under contract, where do we need help, who are possible draft and/or FA targets? I'll try to start one up each day until we hit all the position groups - QB, RB, TE, WR, OL, DL, OLB, ILB, CB, S. One each weekday for the next two weeks, and I'll edit, add/subtract as we go into FA...
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
QB
Under contract - Ben Roethlisberger, 18.2M - Zach Mettenberger, 690K.
Current total cap hit for the position group : 18.89M
Need level : Back-up.
Pretty cut and dried here if you ask me. Starter is entrenched and the only other QB on the roster is a 3rd stringer at best. Need here is for a back-up to Roethlisberger. Now, who will this be? I believe the Steelers' first choice is to re-sign Landry Jones. The team has won a few games with Landry under center and he's more equipped to play the position in this offense right now than any of the other options might be should Ben go down.
Options : Tony Romo, Jay Cutler, Kirk Cousins are likely all out as options, either via trade or FA signing. All those guys are cost-prohibitive and likely want to start. Mike Glennon just turned down a large offer to remain the backup in Tampa, so it's clear he's jockeying for a crack at a starting role. They're not going to trade a 1st/2nd round pick for the likes of Garoppolo or AJ McCarron.
I don't see a legit option out there in FA that they're going to prefer to Landry at the same price. I think if Jones walks, the solution will have to come through the draft. If so, who do we like there? Any of the top names are going to cost a first-round pick and I really don't think the Steelers are doing that when their championship window is still wide-open and they can draft a guy they think can help right away. That leads us to some of the lesser names like Davis Webb from Cal, Nathan Peterman from Pitt, or CJ Beathard from Iowa who, among others, can likely be had in the mid-late rounds as a developmental prospect.
What say you? Is this a hole that gets filled by re-signing Jones, signing another team's FA quarterback, or with a draft pick?
Under contract - Ben Roethlisberger, 18.2M - Zach Mettenberger, 690K.
Current total cap hit for the position group : 18.89M
Need level : Back-up.
Pretty cut and dried here if you ask me. Starter is entrenched and the only other QB on the roster is a 3rd stringer at best. Need here is for a back-up to Roethlisberger. Now, who will this be? I believe the Steelers' first choice is to re-sign Landry Jones. The team has won a few games with Landry under center and he's more equipped to play the position in this offense right now than any of the other options might be should Ben go down.
Options : Tony Romo, Jay Cutler, Kirk Cousins are likely all out as options, either via trade or FA signing. All those guys are cost-prohibitive and likely want to start. Mike Glennon just turned down a large offer to remain the backup in Tampa, so it's clear he's jockeying for a crack at a starting role. They're not going to trade a 1st/2nd round pick for the likes of Garoppolo or AJ McCarron.
I don't see a legit option out there in FA that they're going to prefer to Landry at the same price. I think if Jones walks, the solution will have to come through the draft. If so, who do we like there? Any of the top names are going to cost a first-round pick and I really don't think the Steelers are doing that when their championship window is still wide-open and they can draft a guy they think can help right away. That leads us to some of the lesser names like Davis Webb from Cal, Nathan Peterman from Pitt, or CJ Beathard from Iowa who, among others, can likely be had in the mid-late rounds as a developmental prospect.
What say you? Is this a hole that gets filled by re-signing Jones, signing another team's FA quarterback, or with a draft pick?
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Gotta love our F.O taking a serious look into the TE position for this draft.
Hope we do a visit with Shaheen and that they already have a complete grasp of Howard and Njoku.
With Derek Barnett trending so far up -- its nice to see us looking at Reddick!
Hope we do a visit with Shaheen and that they already have a complete grasp of Howard and Njoku.
With Derek Barnett trending so far up -- its nice to see us looking at Reddick!
It's interesting, not a single defensive back in this list. And it's one of the stronger/deeper positions this year.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
3 of their top 4 draft picks over the last two years have gone to the secondary. They probably don't want to dip in there early again. FA is going to be interesting with respect to the back 4.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Tomlin loves him his Buckeyes.
Plus, well, they do sorta need to address the position somehow. Not championing Pryor, per se, but legit bodies are needed. Bryant a risk due to the off field stuff, Coates still a question mark, Rogers pretty clearly a slot only type, Wheaton a FA, etc, etc.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Think they want to make his value higher and make it harder for Clev/Cincy to sign him as a Ohio guy.
steelers1080
Footballguy
Josh Reynolds WR Texas A&M
He's a tall WR, good red zone target. And would be a later pick most likely, rounds 4-6.
It looks like the Steelers will 100% take an edge rusher with a 1st or 2nd round pick. Could just be waiting to interview secondary players at pro-days instead since teams get a limited amount of combine interviews. I'd be shocked if we didn't take a secondary player in our first 4 picks.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Was sort of hoping they'd be talking with McKinley at the Combine. Ah, well. Might assume he won't be available for them, I guess.
I will say this...J.J. Watt's little brother can be a bad, bad man. He wouldn't be a terrible get to groom as an Edge type. Stand up on downs 1-2, put hand in dirt in Nickel. Not a total liability vs. the pass either. Needs a bit more refinement, but his needle is pointing up.
I will say this...J.J. Watt's little brother can be a bad, bad man. He wouldn't be a terrible get to groom as an Edge type. Stand up on downs 1-2, put hand in dirt in Nickel. Not a total liability vs. the pass either. Needs a bit more refinement, but his needle is pointing up.
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BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
I want no part of him at all.
Watched way too much "blah" on the game videos. He would get sacks, but they seemed very lackluster.
