Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
Yes. Could be #2 to Calvin for many years on a good team with a good QB. You'd be nuts to,pass it up IMHO.
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Player Spotlight: C.J. Spiller, RB, Buffalo Bills (1 Viewer)
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danielmclark
Footballguy
I did. That's exactly who I put in for Spiller this week. Left Sunday's game early, hasn't been himself all year, road game against a tough defense... it wasn't a hard decision to bench him.
Watch, he'll put up 30 points.
Ace zero1
Footballguy
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
I might be benching both but Im starting WIlson over Spiller if I decide to go with one of them
WilsonTheVolleyball
Footballguy
Boy this guy has fallen off the face of the Earth. Easily the biggest bust of the year. Anyone out there going to play him this week against Miami? On paper, this is his best situation based matchup of the season thus far. The Dolphins run defense is middle of the pack and the Dolphins offense shouldn't blow the Bills out.
He gets the Saints next week, but I'm not feeling confident about that game. New Orleans will probably jump out to an early 2-3 touchdown lead which could lead to Doug dialing up a lot of passes for Fred Jackson (the irony).
My choices this week at flex are Spiller or Thompkins. My brain is telling me Thompkins, but my heart is saying Spiller. If he doesn't do anything this week, he is likely droppable in ten team leagues.
He gets the Saints next week, but I'm not feeling confident about that game. New Orleans will probably jump out to an early 2-3 touchdown lead which could lead to Doug dialing up a lot of passes for Fred Jackson (the irony).
My choices this week at flex are Spiller or Thompkins. My brain is telling me Thompkins, but my heart is saying Spiller. If he doesn't do anything this week, he is likely droppable in ten team leagues.
Breesisdaman
Footballguy
Not a chance I play him against Miami with his gimpy foot and Fred splitting carries. Now if they used him in the passing game that would be another story.
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
Probably benching him for Ellington
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I feel your pain I kept Wilson, Spiller, Martin and Miller. I thought I was good on backs so I traded Miller. Bad part for me is I have to keep rolling Spiller and Martin out there.
Demian
Footballguy
I'm considering the same.
With the Murray out, I have to play him. Hoping for the best, but expecting 10-12 carries and maybe 2-3 catches, 70 combined yards and a potential touchdown
In general, as a Spiller owner - I am holding onto hope that the team starts clicking when Manuel comes back.
In general, as a Spiller owner - I am holding onto hope that the team starts clicking when Manuel comes back.
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Jagerbomber
Footballguy
My hope as well but it may not matter for many fantasy owners like me that actually need points from him. I keep stumbling down the ladder.
danielmclark
Footballguy
For those that can afford to wait? Keep him with confidence. He's going to bounce back, that's almost guaranteed, IMO. It might take a shake-up in the play calling and game management, but once they do, he'll take off. He's shown flashes of it already, it's only a matter of time.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Not sure how many of you guys have been watching the games or just seeing the stats, but he looks like he's playing through some serious pain. He's noticeably limping every time he's on the field. Sucks if you drafted him early, but the way some of these posts read, you'd think the guy forgot how to run the football....
tdhartis
Footballguy
I've read that he's limping after plays as well. Considering Jackson has done well with his opportunities, I just don't understand why they don't have Spiller sit for a game or two so that he's able to get back close to 100%. Trotting out a hobbled Spiller is a waste IMO considering his potential to be a game changer when healthy. It reminds me of the Roddy White situation this year.
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tdhartis
Footballguy
I think the logic is that EJ opens things up a bit more as he's a threat to run and would make other teams respect the passing game more. It was still early when he got hurt, but he looked to be trending up.
Because it's working. It sucks for fantasy, but the Bills have the #3 rushing offense in the NFL right now.
I get that's what people are thinking, but it just doesn't seem to be reality. Most of his games have been with EJ this year, and they weren't very good (for fantasy).
Also, if anything EJ was trending down (not that I expected it to continue).
tdhartis
Footballguy
Correct, but having the #3 rushing offense obviously doesn't win you games. I just don't see the point when it seems that they could likely rely on Jackson for a game or two and get roughly the same numbers from the RB position, and once Spiller comes back healthy then they will be even better. With Spiller healthy they could have the #1 rushing offense in the NFL. Many of their games have been close, and that could be the type of things that decides the game in their favor.
Huh? This isn't Jacksonville we're talking about- the Bills have 2 wins and they were both because of their running game (and defense). The reason they've been close in their other games is because of their running game.
They have the most rushing attempts in the NFL, and Fred Jackson can't handle that alone. Part of the reason they've been so productive is because they split the load.
The NFL is a brutal game- everyone is playing at less than 100%. Spiller is probably more banged up than most who are playing, but taking off a game or two just doesn't happen unless you simply can't go.
chinawildman
Footballguy
If there's any silver lining to the CJ spiller cloud... it's that out of the first 6 teams they faced, 5 are current in the top 10 in rushing ypg allowed in the NFL. The next 4 are against teams all in the bottom half of that category. To quote the great Jim Carrey... "....soooo you're saying there's a chance!!"
dcgangstas
Footballguy
Doug Marrone got it wrong about running Spiller until he throws up. It's Spiller's owners that are throwing up.
LargeMouthBass
Footballguy
Then why even suit him up when you have Jackson and Choice? Why not just let him heal for couple weeks?
Doesn't make sense...
snitwitch
Footballguy
Possible he may not play this week? From CBS:
C.J. Spiller could sit for a bit if ankle doesn't improve
by Marty Gitlin | CBSSports.com(02:36 pm ET) Doug Marrone spoke less optimistically Thursday about an ankle problemthat has hampered Bills top back C.J. Spiller than Spiller did. Marrone even stated that he might give Spiller some time off if the injury continued to hinder him.
"If it's something that we see it as it's not progressing or better than the week before, that's obviously an option," Marrone said per ESPN.
The good news is that Spiller was upgraded to limited in practice on Thursday despite what Marrone described as a "nagging" ankle injury.
I may roll out ellington instead...
Ace zero1
Footballguy
All the reports I've seen today is that he took part in more drills then he has and it's coming along nicely
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smapdi
Footballguy
I just traded for Spiller this week. I feel like once he gets back to full health, he will find his groove. I'm hoping its this week against Miami. He did put up 5.5 ypc last week on a gimpy leg. He has torn them apart in the last 3 meetings with 470 total yards. That's 157 a game. Some players just tear up certain teams and I think Miami is Spiller's.
The Bills also lead the league in rush attempts and that's not going to change anytime soon. With Thad Lewis in at QB and Manuel not slated to return for at least another 4 or 5 weeks; hell, I could see them keeping Manuel out til the bye in week 12 just to make sure his knee is fully healed.
The Bills also lead the league in rush attempts and that's not going to change anytime soon. With Thad Lewis in at QB and Manuel not slated to return for at least another 4 or 5 weeks; hell, I could see them keeping Manuel out til the bye in week 12 just to make sure his knee is fully healed.
snitwitch
Footballguy
Thanks for this, ending up keeping ellington on the bench. Hoping Spiller breaks it out this week.
smapdi
Footballguy
Well he has been upped to Probable for this game and reports from local beat writers is that he looks much better then last week. He participated fully in practice today which is a great sign.
I can see him having a pretty good game against MIA:.
He was able to put up 5.5 yards on a bad ankle last week
He has owned Miami lately - 470 yards in the last 3 meetings.
Thad Lewis in at QB on the road; don't see them throwing it down the field too much in this one & think Lewis will be looking to check down to Spiller and FJax,
The Bills have the most rushing attempts in the league (35 per game). There's plenty of opportunities for both Spiller and FJax. Add in 3 or 4 check down receptions and I think he tops his best game of the season (Week 2/CAR/16.7)
I know you guys have your doubts but I think they really lean on the run game heavily(1st in attempts to begin with) on the road with Thad Lewis at QB
I can see him having a pretty good game against MIA:.
He was able to put up 5.5 yards on a bad ankle last week
He has owned Miami lately - 470 yards in the last 3 meetings.
Thad Lewis in at QB on the road; don't see them throwing it down the field too much in this one & think Lewis will be looking to check down to Spiller and FJax,
The Bills have the most rushing attempts in the league (35 per game). There's plenty of opportunities for both Spiller and FJax. Add in 3 or 4 check down receptions and I think he tops his best game of the season (Week 2/CAR/16.7)
I know you guys have your doubts but I think they really lean on the run game heavily(1st in attempts to begin with) on the road with Thad Lewis at QB
NajehHejan
Footballguy
I'm not worried about him and Fred splitting the load fairly evenly. What worries me is a split % of 50/30/20 amongst Fred/Spiller/Choice. That keeps me up late at night and makes me want to start Mathews over him.
smapdi
Footballguy
If Spiller is as healthy as they claim (fully practiced Friday) then I don't think Choice will see a significant amount of carries. Hackett, the OC, knows that Spiller is the most talented player on this offense and should be using him more with the unproven Lewis in at QB and Spiller close to full steam. He was quoted as saying they "were going to run Spiller until he pukes" during TC
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Gopher State
Footballguy
They claim Spiller still is not 100 percent, yes he practiced but until he can rest and get healthy his numbers will be below average. More of a number 3 RB right now
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I have been trying to sell low on Spiller and can't even get a nibble. I still value him as a late second round start up. Am I crazy?
Keith1
Footballguy
I remember that quote. It was why I drafted Spiller when he fell to me at # 10 in my draft. The only one puking has been me.
cstu
Footballguy
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
So freaking disappointing.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Had a great scamper with some jukes for a 10-11 yard gain and then immediately pulled up limp and took himself out. Guy is hurt. I heard in the radio today that going into today's game, he was only in on 30 of the team's last ~150 plays...tough to get any fantasy value from a player who's only in on 20% of offensive snaps.
Nucker101
Footballguy
I don't understand why teams do this, let the guy rest and heal for a week or 2 early in the season. Same thing with Roddy and the Falcons. Makes no sense.
WilsonTheVolleyball
Footballguy
"He's got so much talent."
Fantasy Bum
Footballguy
Time to give up on Spiller till he proves himself again. Yesterday was enough for me. Starting Leveon Bell over him from now on until I see some positive results.
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