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Player Spotlight: Lee Evans (1 Viewer)
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Evans with 3 catches for 180 yards and 2 TDs in the first 8:25 of today's game against the Texans.
kevjones22
Footballguy
He's on pace for 1,000 yards in this game alone!Evans with 3 catches for 180 yards and 2 TDs in the first 8:25 of today's game against the Texans.
Lee Evans on pace for update (week 11 edition):Week 11: 11/265/2Current: 55/821/4Pace: 88/1314/6
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
And this is exactly why it's a bad idea to start running your mouth about players and patting yourself on the back so early in the season.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
I'm kinda confused here, so maybe someone can straighten me out...
He was ranked WR30 heading into this game and is now WR14. Do we really think he's going to put up a WR14 pace the rest of the way, or go back to his WR30 stats?
I can't see his season being a success (so far) for anyone who thought he'd be more than a WR3.
For those with a really short memory, he did this same exact thing last year v Miami.
He was ranked WR30 heading into this game and is now WR14. Do we really think he's going to put up a WR14 pace the rest of the way, or go back to his WR30 stats?
I can't see his season being a success (so far) for anyone who thought he'd be more than a WR3.
For those with a really short memory, he did this same exact thing last year v Miami.
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This is the least confusing thread on FBG.Someone made a preseason prediction of 50/658/4.Someone else made preseason predictions of 80/1100/8.The guy who made the 50/658/4 came in the thread laughing after week 1/2, enjoying this bold prediction.Now it seems the guy is no where to be found.These were hotly debated preseason predictions. Has nothing to go with week 11 on. They were final stat predictions for 2006. The rest is just bumping to see who turned out correct.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
Oh, I didn't know there was a bet involved.Still only a WR3 unless he keeps up a better pace though.
Lee Evans is currently WR14 in both PPR and non-PPR leagues...he's about a TD away from being a top-10 WR. He ranks 11th in receptions, 7th in yards, and tied for 19th in TDs. He also ranks 13th in receiving 1st downs.He's had 3 bad games, 6 good games, and 1 great game.If he's a WR3, he's the best WR3 in the league by far.BTW, since Losman's stats were also discussed in this thread, here is his current pace:264 for 421 (62.7%), 2939 yards, 16 TDs, 11 INTs, 40 rushes for 150 yards and 2 TDs.That would give him about 213 fantasy points which would have put him at QB18 last year.
Musesboy
Footballguy
The team was allowing Losman to throw in dangerous situations on Sunday, even it it was from his own end zone. Despite throwing a pick that was returned for a TD, Losman seems to have made a positive step. He led a fourth quarter comeback and that will also help his confidence and the faith the coaches have in him.
I appreciate the point being made that one huge week does not mean Evans will suddenly become a top 15 receiver, but I would have to believe that the Bills will be more prepared to let Losman try and make throws.
The Bills still lack a good WR2. That will mean a lot of targets for Evans, especially underneath, but could hurt his chances of big plays. Not every secondary will be as bad as the Texans were. A team like the Patriots has shown that Evans can be taken out of the equation at times.
It will be interesting to see what happens.
I appreciate the point being made that one huge week does not mean Evans will suddenly become a top 15 receiver, but I would have to believe that the Bills will be more prepared to let Losman try and make throws.
The Bills still lack a good WR2. That will mean a lot of targets for Evans, especially underneath, but could hurt his chances of big plays. Not every secondary will be as bad as the Texans were. A team like the Patriots has shown that Evans can be taken out of the equation at times.
It will be interesting to see what happens.
Joe T
Footballguy
If you take out a couple of lucky games he had, his numbers are really very pedestrian.
Reception/Yards/TD
2-25-0
2-19-0
7-92-0
8-82-0
1-10-0
2-58-1
5-70-0
Doesn't look that great to me. If you eliminate a couple of huge games, the guy is about WR #45 which is exactly where I had him preseason.
Reception/Yards/TD
2-25-0
2-19-0
7-92-0
8-82-0
1-10-0
2-58-1
5-70-0
Doesn't look that great to me. If you eliminate a couple of huge games, the guy is about WR #45 which is exactly where I had him preseason.
PahtyTom
Footballguy
If grandma had balls she'd be grandpa. Why are his good games considered lucky? Why would eliminate his huge games?
Sheriff66
Footballguy
With that kind of logic, Chad Johnson must suck balls as well.
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Futility
Footballguy
If you're going to eliminate outliers, it doesn't make sense to eliminate the upper end and not the lower end. This is terrible shtick, btw.
Joe T
Footballguy
You can't count games against the Texans as an indicator of true performance.
So Evans won you one game in HTH leagues, big deal? Most people don't play in total points leagues. In HTH, Evans would be about the WR #45. That's all I'm saying. If you are happy with that type of performance on a weekly basis (excluding the Texans) then enjoy having Evans on your roster.
So Evans won you one game in HTH leagues, big deal? Most people don't play in total points leagues. In HTH, Evans would be about the WR #45. That's all I'm saying. If you are happy with that type of performance on a weekly basis (excluding the Texans) then enjoy having Evans on your roster.
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
The same could be said of Chad Johnson. Not many WRs will give you a consistent 75-100 yds and a TD every week.
Joe T
Footballguy
I'm not saying anything about Chad Johnson. What are you saying about him?Would you classify him as a disappointment or a surprise this year? Or neither?
Futility
Footballguy
While you haven't said anything about Chad Johnson, you're presenting criteria by which a WR can be judged. When you apply other WRs to that critera, such as Chad Johnson, similar results are yielded.
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
He is leading the NFL in receiving yards and leading many fantasy leagues in WR points primarily due to his past two games. Most WR in the NFL, even the good ones, are hit or miss for fantasy purposes.
RedRaiders
Mr. +EV
Could you shorten your sig, guy?
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
Maybe I'll throw some random sports books on there and really make it interesting?
switz
Footballguy
Are you serious? Or just talking to hear the sound of your voice?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Lee Evans is one of the most talented WR in the league. He had 8 TD as a rookie, did that again last season with poor QB play...this season he has caught 5 or more balls in many of his games. Sunday was an extreme output but make no mistake, this guy is top10 talent. He just needs a reliable QB...something Losman is far from. Losman has to be one of the 5 worst starting QBs in the league.Evans = real talent...period.Are you serious? Or just talking to hear the sound of your voice?
Mr. Pink
Footballguy
-OZ-
Footballguy
This is either bad schtick or a guy without a clue.
Losman certainly hasn't been great and probably won't ever be anything special, but he's better than these starting QBs:Bruce GradkowskiBrad JohnsonCharlie FryeJoey HarringtonMark Brunell/Jason CampbellAaron Brooks/Andrew WalterVince Young/Kerry Collinshe's about equal to David Carr and Carr has a couple more years of experience.
PahtyTom
Footballguy
I was going to argue for those guys too, but then I looked at the stats and was surprised. Losman has better than or equal to TD/INT ratios than all those guys, they all have pretty good completion %, and Losman's YPA is the best of the bunch. Apparently, when given the opportunity to throw, Losman has been pretty good this year.
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Losman: 164 of 262 (62.6%), 1838 yards, 10 TD, 7 INT, sacked 32 times for 250 yards, QB Rating of 85.1Brad Johnson: 207 for 332 (62.3%), 2139 yards, 5 TD, 10 INT, sacked 22 times for 153 yards, QB Rating of 73.4
Charlie Frye: 198 for 316 (62.7%), 1959 yards, 9 TD, 12 INT, sacked 39 times for 220 yards, QB Rating of 73.8
Vince Young: 90 for 197 (45.7%), 1074 yards, 6 TD, 8 INT, sacked 12 times for 47 yards, QB Rating of 56.1
David Carr: 198 for 285 (69.5%), 1896 yards, 9 TD, 6 INT, sacked 25 times for 145 yards, QB Rating of 89.5
tell us again how Drew Bledsoe is a 1st ballot Hall of Famer and will lead the Cowboys to the Super Bowl.
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this is still my favorite post of this thread
Lee Evans in 2005: 48/743/7Lee Evans in 2006 thru 10 games: 55/822/4
Lee Evans update (week 12 edition):Week 12: 5/58/0Current: 60/879/4Pace: 87/1278/6His numbers could have been better today. He was open on a long bomb from Losman on the 1st play of the 2nd quarter, but the Jaguars CB grabbed him and was flagged with pass interference. Would have been a 43 yard catch to the 9 yard line and he possibly could have ran it in for the TD. After that, I think the Jaguars started giving him more space to prevent the big play, which freed him up for more underneath work. Bills were also playing with the lead for nearly the entire game so they kept things pretty conservative.
Lee Evans update (week 13 edition):Week 13: 5/45/0Current: 65/924/4Pace: 87/1232/5
dparker713
Footballguy
Well, with 3 weeks to go I think its safe to say that Evans has performed much better then some thought he would this season, despite playing with that stiff Losman.
Lee Evans update (week 14 edition):Week 14: 2/91/1Current: 67/1015/5Pace: 82/1249/6
bentley
Footballguy
Losman still better than Young?
probably not, but the Bills are 4-2 in their last 6 and the two losses were by 1 and 3pts to the Colts and Chargers.FTR, I never said Losman was great or anything. He's just not as bad as a lot of people think.Vince is incredible.
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bentley
Footballguy
I noticed. I've been starting their defense the last couple weeks.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Going into today, Losman had the 12th highest passer rating in the league. And after today he'll probably move past Brunell and possibly Brady as well. He's actually having a pretty decent year. The Bills just don't throw the ball a ton at this point so you're not seeing him put up 300 yard games all the time.Honestly the biggest weakness in Losman's game right now is his propensity to fumble the ball.
I'm pretty happy with his development right now. I think that if the Bills open up the offense a bit more next season he could be a legit fantasy QB as well as a top 10 NFL QB.
dparker713
Footballguy
At this point, Losman just isnt making as many mistakes, but he's also not making many plays. He's caretaking. There's nothing wrong with that, but he's not shown anything special. The other players on the offense need to create opportunities out there for him, and Evans does just that.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
So that was my imagination that Losman threw the ball about 60 yards in the air to hit Evans in stride yesterday?
And that was my imagination when he hit Roscoe Parrish as time was winding down to setup the game winning FG against the Jags?And when Losman hit Peerless Price with a perfectly placed pass in the endzone for the winner against Houston, that was my imagination too I suppose.The bottom line is that over the last 6 games Losman has done a very good job of managing games when it called for it and a great job of making the big throws when he has been called on to make them. The Bills are using Losman this season like they should have last season. They're not putting as much pressure on him to carry the team and he is responding by growing in leaps and bounds. I'm telling you, at this time next season people are going to be forced to admit that they were wrong about JP.
Asslete
Footballguy
Outstanding PostSo that was my imagination that Losman threw the ball about 60 yards in the air to hit Evans in stride yesterday?
dparker713
Footballguy
He's making 2 or 3 good throws a game. Thats managing the game. Sorry, but to be a top QB in the league you need to be able to dominate a game, and he cant do that right now. Maybe he can next year, but right now he's just not killing his team. BTW, Evans was wide open on that bomb.So that was my imagination that Losman threw the ball about 60 yards in the air to hit Evans in stride yesterday?
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