Players who always got drafted too high for their numbers. (1 Viewer)

[Da Guru]

We had a FF meeting last night and we got to talking about players that lived off their name and were always drafted too high for the numbers they put up.

Right away the first name that came to peoples minds.....Keyshawn Johnson. Every year some sap would take him as a top 10 WR, and every year he would finish around #25.

Anyone else come to mind?

 

[BassNBrew]

Troy Aikman

 

[Brutis]

Troy Aikman

That was due to system more than talent.

 

[Warhogs]

The first 2 names that popped in my head were John Elway and Troy Aikman.

 

[Brutis]

The first 2 names that popped in my head were John Elway and Troy Aikman.

2 and 3 superbowls respectively in their careers. Doubt you'll hear any fans of these teams complaining about the numbers.

 

[Da Guru]

The first 2 names that popped in my head were John Elway and Troy Aikman.

2 and 3 superbowls respectively in their careers. Doubt you'll hear any fans of these teams complaining about the numbers.

FF numbers.

 

[gman8343]

The first 2 names that popped in my head were John Elway and Troy Aikman.

2 and 3 superbowls respectively in their careers. Doubt you'll hear any fans of these teams complaining about the numbers.

I think the original post was talking about this in regards to fantasy numbers, so IMO Aikman and Elway both qualify. SB wins mean nothing in fantasy -- if you drafted Aikman as your #1 QB and he ends up the #19th, you screwed up.

 

[BassNBrew]

We had a FF meeting last night and we got to talking about players that lived off their name and were always drafted too high for the numbers they put up.Right away the first name that came to peoples minds.....Keyshawn Johnson. Every year some sap would take him as a top 10 WR, and every year he would finish around #25.Anyone else come to mind?

Actually Keyshawn was a steal in his later years. Usually went in the 50's and still put up WR3 numbers.

 

[Brutis]

The first 2 names that popped in my head were John Elway and Troy Aikman.

2 and 3 superbowls respectively in their careers. Doubt you'll hear any fans of these teams complaining about the numbers.

I think the original post was talking about this in regards to fantasy numbers, so IMO Aikman and Elway both qualify. SB wins mean nothing in fantasy -- if you drafted Aikman as your #1 QB and he ends up the #19th, you screwed up.

Not if you drafted him late.

 

[Warhogs]

The first 2 names that popped in my head were John Elway and Troy Aikman.

2 and 3 superbowls respectively in their careers. Doubt you'll hear any fans of these teams complaining about the numbers.

I think the original post was talking about this in regards to fantasy numbers, so IMO Aikman and Elway both qualify. SB wins mean nothing in fantasy -- if you drafted Aikman as your #1 QB and he ends up the #19th, you screwed up.

Not if you drafted him late.

Elway was usually drafted in the top 5 QBs but usually finished more in that 8-15 range at QB for FF. He was almost always drafted higher than where he finished, just like Aikman.

 

[BassNBrew]

Michael Pittman

 

[BLOX]

Isn't Chad Johnson that guy right now?

 

[Yitbos69]

Isn't Chad Johnson that guy right now?

No.....he finished 4th, 4th, and 6th the last 3 years.....FBG scoring

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Very easy:

Michael Turner

 

[Brutis]

Very easy:Michael Turner

I would throw in Ronnie Brown, Caddy, Benson, ki-jana carter, curtis enis, Anthony Thomas, blair thomas just to name a few. WR's would be a very long list.

 

[3nOut]

The first 2 names that popped in my head were John Elway and Troy Aikman.

2 and 3 superbowls respectively in their careers. Doubt you'll hear any fans of these teams complaining about the numbers.

I think the original post was talking about this in regards to fantasy numbers, so IMO Aikman and Elway both qualify. SB wins mean nothing in fantasy -- if you drafted Aikman as your #1 QB and he ends up the #19th, you screwed up.

Not if you drafted him late.

Even if you drafted him late, you still drafted him as your #1 QB. You still screwed up.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

early 90's Marino

 

[coolnerd]

Except for 2006 Andre Johnson fits this category.

 

[Brutis]

The first 2 names that popped in my head were John Elway and Troy Aikman.

2 and 3 superbowls respectively in their careers. Doubt you'll hear any fans of these teams complaining about the numbers.

I think the original post was talking about this in regards to fantasy numbers, so IMO Aikman and Elway both qualify. SB wins mean nothing in fantasy -- if you drafted Aikman as your #1 QB and he ends up the #19th, you screwed up.

Not if you drafted him late.

Even if you drafted him late, you still drafted him as your #1 QB. You still screwed up.

I didnt start playing until the mid 90's and I dont remember him going very early in my drafts.

 

[zed2283]

Mark Brunell

 

[Cenobite]

Michael Bennett when he was on the Vikes and J. Lewis the last couple of years when he was on the Ravens.

 

[Yitbos69]

Except for 2006 Andre Johnson fits this category.

What about 2004(1142/6)........and he had a pretty good 2003(976/4) his rookie season.....2005/2007 he was injured....in 2007 he put up 851/8 in 9 games...that was pretty darn good

 

[Phurfur]

Troy Aikman

That was due to system more than talent.

The first 2 names that popped in my head were John Elway and Troy Aikman.

2 and 3 superbowls respectively in their careers. Doubt you'll hear any fans of these teams complaining about the numbers.

I think the original post was talking about this in regards to fantasy numbers, so IMO Aikman and Elway both qualify. SB wins mean nothing in fantasy -- if you drafted Aikman as your #1 QB and he ends up the #19th, you screwed up.

Not if you drafted him late.

You don't get what we are talking about do you?

 

[Brutis]

Troy Aikman

That was due to system more than talent.

The first 2 names that popped in my head were John Elway and Troy Aikman.

2 and 3 superbowls respectively in their careers. Doubt you'll hear any fans of these teams complaining about the numbers.

I think the original post was talking about this in regards to fantasy numbers, so IMO Aikman and Elway both qualify. SB wins mean nothing in fantasy -- if you drafted Aikman as your #1 QB and he ends up the #19th, you screwed up.

Not if you drafted him late.

You don't get what we are talking about do you?

I do, im just partial to Aikman.

 

[BassNBrew]

Troy Aikman

That was due to system more than talent.

The first 2 names that popped in my head were John Elway and Troy Aikman.

2 and 3 superbowls respectively in their careers. Doubt you'll hear any fans of these teams complaining about the numbers.

I think the original post was talking about this in regards to fantasy numbers, so IMO Aikman and Elway both qualify. SB wins mean nothing in fantasy -- if you drafted Aikman as your #1 QB and he ends up the #19th, you screwed up.

Not if you drafted him late.

You don't get what we are talking about do you?

I do, im just partial to Aikman.

That's so sweet.

 

[Brutis]

Troy Aikman

That was due to system more than talent.

The first 2 names that popped in my head were John Elway and Troy Aikman.

2 and 3 superbowls respectively in their careers. Doubt you'll hear any fans of these teams complaining about the numbers.

I think the original post was talking about this in regards to fantasy numbers, so IMO Aikman and Elway both qualify. SB wins mean nothing in fantasy -- if you drafted Aikman as your #1 QB and he ends up the #19th, you screwed up.

Not if you drafted him late.

You don't get what we are talking about do you?

I do, im just partial to Aikman.

That's so sweet.

So stop badmouthing him.

 

[coolnerd]

Except for 2006 Andre Johnson fits this category.

What about 2004(1142/6)........and he had a pretty good 2003(976/4) his rookie season.....2005/2007 he was injured....in 2007 he put up 851/8 in 9 games...that was pretty darn good

This isn't a total bust category, but guys who are being drafted as WR1 and givng you less than that. I don't have the time find the numbers but I am pretty sure that except 2006 and his rookie year his ADP is higher than his fantasy football finish. Steve Smith is also falling into this category of still a productive player, but except for one dynamic year his draft spot not meeting his how early he has been taken.

 

[horadadude]

Troy Aikman

That was due to system more than talent.

The first 2 names that popped in my head were John Elway and Troy Aikman.

2 and 3 superbowls respectively in their careers. Doubt you'll hear any fans of these teams complaining about the numbers.

I think the original post was talking about this in regards to fantasy numbers, so IMO Aikman and Elway both qualify. SB wins mean nothing in fantasy -- if you drafted Aikman as your #1 QB and he ends up the #19th, you screwed up.

Not if you drafted him late.

You don't get what we are talking about do you?

I do, im just partial to Aikman.

That's so sweet.

So stop badmouthing him. :(

Aikman might qualify as the most overrated QB in history. Also the most overrated announcer - who obviously could not hide his disapointment, when the GMEN put the Cowboys out of their misery in the first round of the playoffs.

 

[avoiding injuries]

Edge

 

[gianmarco]

Chris Chambers immediately popped into my mind.

 

[travdogg]

Ricky Williams and Michael Vick.

 

[Yitbos69]

Except for 2006 Andre Johnson fits this category.

What about 2004(1142/6)........and he had a pretty good 2003(976/4) his rookie season.....2005/2007 he was injured....in 2007 he put up 851/8 in 9 games...that was pretty darn good

This isn't a total bust category, but guys who are being drafted as WR1 and givng you less than that. I don't have the time find the numbers but I am pretty sure that except 2006 and his rookie year his ADP is higher than his fantasy football finish. Steve Smith is also falling into this category of still a productive player, but except for one dynamic year his draft spot not meeting his how early he has been taken.

the title said......Players who always got drafted too high for their numbers.

 

[massraider]

Drew Bennett

("Remember that run he had a few years back with Volek? Awww, man, Bennett is gonna blow up this year!!!")

 

[Yitbos69]

Edge

Not even close

 

[DoctorFantasy]

William Green

 

[Prof. Chaos]

Barry Sanders, except for one multiple td year.

 

[Jason Wood]

Barry Sanders, except for one multiple td year.

I'm not sure I follow you...Sanders scored 10+ TDs seven of his 10 seasons.

 

[Liquid Tension]

Troy Aikman

That was due to system more than talent.

The first 2 names that popped in my head were John Elway and Troy Aikman.

2 and 3 superbowls respectively in their careers. Doubt you'll hear any fans of these teams complaining about the numbers.

I think the original post was talking about this in regards to fantasy numbers, so IMO Aikman and Elway both qualify. SB wins mean nothing in fantasy -- if you drafted Aikman as your #1 QB and he ends up the #19th, you screwed up.

Not if you drafted him late.

You don't get what we are talking about do you?

I do, im just partial to Aikman.

That's so sweet.

So stop badmouthing him.

How is this...Aikman was a product of a great defense, a great OL, a HOF WR and a HOF running back. It ius pretty obvious that any QB coudl have won SB's with the talent around him.

 

[JohnnyU]

Before last season it was Tom Brady. How quickly we forget.

 

[Liquid Tension]

Cedric Benson

Chris Perry

Chambers

Deshaun Foster

Buckhalter

 

[SayWhat?]

This thread is a

 

[JohnnyU]

This thread is a

How is that?

 

[coolnerd]

Except for 2006 Andre Johnson fits this category.

What about 2004(1142/6)........and he had a pretty good 2003(976/4) his rookie season.....2005/2007 he was injured....in 2007 he put up 851/8 in 9 games...that was pretty darn good

This isn't a total bust category, but guys who are being drafted as WR1 and givng you less than that. I don't have the time find the numbers but I am pretty sure that except 2006 and his rookie year his ADP is higher than his fantasy football finish. Steve Smith is also falling into this category of still a productive player, but except for one dynamic year his draft spot not meeting his how early he has been taken.

the title said......Players who always got drafted too high for their numbers.

If you want to be literal go ahead. I would say that is is a pretty strong chance that ANY player who played significant time in the NFL had at least one year where his average draft position was lower than his finishing position. Pretty sure that no was drafting Troy Aikman very high after his initial 1-15 season. He then would violate the ALWAYS provision of this discussion.

 

[arlingtonpark27]

Ricky Williams and Michael Vick.

The first name that popped into my head was Vick.

 

[FUBAR]

Roy Williams

Ladanian Tomlinson

 

[redman]

Herman Moore

Carl Pickens

 

[SayWhat?]

This thread is a

How is that?

Oh, I don't know. There's that meaningless back-and-forth banter about Aikman. Then there's posters naming players like KJ Carter (maybe drafted high one season with a season high of 464 rushing yards), Curtis Enis (a three year career) and Blair Thomas (two average seasons and basically out of the league). Also, Steve Smith has only been drafted highly the past two seasons, and still finished a respectable 8th and 16th amongst WRs, higher on a ppg basis with a few games missed. Edge being named, while he's finished top 10 for RBs 4 of the past 5 seasons and 6 of his 9 (his two down years coming while recovering from his ACL injury and in his first year in Zona). Barry Sanders? Yeah, I wouldn't want to take a RB who averaged 1,800 yards and 10 TD's over his 10 seasons early in fantasy drafts either. Although granted, he was often one of the top 2 or 3 picks and didn't always put up top 2 or 3 numbers. But really, who does?

I just think about half the people posting in this thread don't get it. Hence, the

 

[stevegamer]

This thread is a

How is that?

Oh, I don't know. There's that meaningless back-and-forth banter about Aikman. Then there's posters naming players like KJ Carter (maybe drafted high one season with a season high of 464 rushing yards), Curtis Enis (a three year career) and Blair Thomas (two average seasons and basically out of the league). Also, Steve Smith has only been drafted highly the past two seasons, and still finished a respectable 8th and 16th amongst WRs, higher on a ppg basis with a few games missed. Edge being named, while he's finished top 10 for RBs 4 of the past 5 seasons and 6 of his 9 (his two down years coming while recovering from his ACL injury and in his first year in Zona). Barry Sanders? Yeah, I wouldn't want to take a RB who averaged 1,800 yards and 10 TD's over his 10 seasons early in fantasy drafts either. Although granted, he was often one of the top 2 or 3 picks and didn't always put up top 2 or 3 numbers. But really, who does?

I just think about half the people posting in this thread don't get it. Hence, the

Yeah, but it's great for figuring who you realize is clueless & to put on ignore.

 

[BassNBrew]

Ricky Williams and Michael Vick.

Actually fell fell out of that category his last couple of years.

 

[switz]

Troy Aikman

That was due to system more than talent.

If it weren't for the Irvin push offs Aikman's numbers would have been even worse than they were. He was a game manager, albeit a very good one, but nothing more than that.