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Poll Added - Macy's pulls 'fat-shaming' plates (1 Viewer)

What do you think about Macy's Selling These Plates?

  • Macy's did something awful. People Should be Upset.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Macy's did something pretty bad. I can see why people are upset.

    Votes: 3 4.5%

  • Macy's did something not that smart. But not a big deal. People are mostly too sensitive.

    Votes: 26 39.4%

  • Macy'd did absolutely nothing wrong. People are way too sensitive.

    Votes: 37 56.1%
  • Total voters
    66
Captain Cranks

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I don't get the "fat shaming" or "advocating against mom jeans" angle.  While I can't imagine there were too many interested in buying the product, why is it considered an assault on heavy people?  Sensitivity gone awry imo.    

 
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I don't get the "fat shaming" or "advocating against mom jeans" angle.  While I can't imagine there were too many interested in buying the product, why is it considered an assault on heavy people?  Sensitivity gone awry imo.    
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these plates look like the kind of thing that would kill at a local street art fair, etc. where women are buying wine slushies and "live, laugh, love" placards for the house.

 
Seems more like portion awareness vs fat shaming.  Of course a portion of today's society is easily triggered by the product though.  

 
[scooter] said:
The plates seem less like "fat shaming" and more like "eating disorder encouraging".
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Agreed this is a much better take. 

I think some people just don't like to be think about being overweight and will quickly respond with the fat shaming card when something/someone indirectly reminds them.  

 
These “I’m offended so you must get rid of this product” incidents continue to occur because businesses cower to them.

If businesses merely said — “While you might not like this product many people do.  You’re free not to buy them, but we’re going to keep selling them” — we’d see less attempts of overly-emotional people trying to impose their will on others, and the majority of the public would agree with the business.

As every parent knows, you get more tantrums in the future when you give in to tantrums today.

 
Gary Coal Man said:
These “I’m offended so you must get rid of this product” incidents continue to occur because businesses cower to them.

If businesses merely said — “While you might not like this product many people do.  You’re free not to buy them, but we’re going to keep selling them” — we’d see less attempts of overly-emotional people trying to impose their will on others, and the majority of the public would agree with the business.

As every parent knows, you get more tantrums in the future when you give in to tantrums today.
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Some stores do choose to say that. In this case, Macy's determined that saying that would be more harmful than helpful to their business - i.e. they decided more people might not buy from them if they kept the plates on-line than would buy the plates from them. Macy's is reportedly struggling in today's retail world so they are going to be more sensitive to that kind of criticism, IMO, and less likely to make a stand. 

 
Given the target market audience for Macy's, I'd imagine the backlash on the product made this one a pretty simple decision for them. 

 
The Iguana said:
Some stores do choose to say that. In this case, Macy's determined that saying that would be more harmful than helpful to their business - i.e. they decided more people might not buy from them if they kept the plates on-line than would buy the plates from them. Macy's is reportedly struggling in today's retail world so they are going to be more sensitive to that kind of criticism, IMO, and less likely to make a stand. 
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That cost-benefit analysis is definitely true sometimes, but other times executive boards simply don’t have the stomach for controversy.

Then there are also businesses that intentionally put out products that they know some people will find controversial because that controversy will then generate media attention which gets the company free press that would have cost millions had they paid through traditional advertising means.

 
Gary Coal Man said:
That cost-benefit analysis is definitely true sometimes, but other times executive boards simply don’t have the stomach for controversy.

Then there are also businesses that intentionally put out products that they know some people will find controversial because that controversy will then generate media attention which gets the company free press that would have cost millions had they paid through traditional advertising means.
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I would imagine this "controversy" might be the best thing that ever happened to the plate company. Doesn't mean it would be beneficial for Macy's to "ride out the storm". 

 
some chubbos need a big ####### nudge to portion control awareness ... this product seems to fit the bill - YA DON'T NEED TO SMOTHER YER PLATE, AGNES!  CUT THE DAMN PORTIONS DOWN!

:popcorn:

 
A local Cooper's Hawk had these ornamental wine bottles w rope on them as part of the decoration.   They took them off the shelves because someone complained that they made them think of a noose and we're offended.  

 
If Alie gets them "banned" in my state, does that mean I can't use mine?  Do I have to turn them back in?  

They can have my plate when they pry it out from from under my cold, delicious lasagna.  

 
I am glad it was discontinued because it’s a plate we/this country does not need more plates. 

 
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IvanKaramazov said:
Did a significant number of people actually object to these, or is this one of those viral fake-outrage stories?
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I’m assuming someone in their marketing realized it was a stupid idea to begin with and is generating fake outrage to pull it and make them look “woke” at the same time 

 
I guess if you're going to do remedial portion control by diagram you might want to think twice about lightly teasing about it. 

 
They should make highball glasses with pre-rendered volume markers labeled "Not Drunk Enough," "Drunk Just Right," and "Too Drunk."  It would simultaneously help social drinkers control their alcohol intake while offering a challenge to heavy drinkers.

 
These plates would fit right in with all the other inane memes my stepmother continually posts on Facebook.  :mellow:

 
Also, I don't know if there's been a company response, but there are also angry tweets out there about Forever 21's apparel with "Fake New" written all over.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
They should make highball glasses with pre-rendered volume markers labeled "Not Drunk Enough," "Drunk Just Right," and "Too Drunk."  It would simultaneously help social drinkers control their alcohol intake while offering a challenge to heavy drinkers.
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when I was in college, a friend of mine had one that said "lightweight",  "buzz seeker", "alcoholic"", and "Irish" :banned: :oldunsure:

 
I'm a bit surprised that there isn't a "Dad bod" version.

Actually, I'm not surprised since no one would buy them and no one would take offense at them.

 
The world really is just awful right now.

Yeah, these plates are stupid. But who gives a #### about stuff like this?  Sorry....there are fat people. And sorry......most of them are fat because they eat too much. But guess what.....most of them are perfectly content and aren't out there looking for a way to get offended by a silly novelty plate.

I really just hate people now. Just live your freaking life and stop getting all bent out of shape over every ridiculous thing. There's more than enough actual bad stuff to get upset about.

 
I guess what I don’t understand is if you don’t like them.....don’t buy them? There’s only one way those plates make it into your kitchen and that’s if you allow it. Same thing with people complaining about violence or nudity on tv. You’re only seeing it if you choose to. 

 
IvanKaramazov said:
Did a significant number of people actually object to these, or is this one of those viral fake-outrage stories?
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It's the latter. It would have been better if Macy's just replied with a roll eyes and a we're offended that you're so easily offended. Go shop somewhere else, you were going to buy your plates on Amazon anyway. 

 
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Gary Coal Man said:
These “I’m offended so you must get rid of this product” incidents continue to occur because businesses cower to them.

If businesses merely said — “While you might not like this product many people do.  You’re free not to buy them, but we’re going to keep selling them” — we’d see less attempts of overly-emotional people trying to impose their will on others, and the majority of the public would agree with the business.

As every parent knows, you get more tantrums in the future when you give in to tantrums today.
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This is true for so many things in this country though.  IMO the majority of people don't give two ####s about this stuff and are just trying to get through their days.  The way too vocal minority gets to control too much of the conversation and it makes it seem like there are a lot more who believe this way than really do.  

 
Hey, conservatives...not to get political...but...

Private company does something

Some people say “Whoa!”

Private company thinks “Maybe we made a mistake...pulling this product will be cheap and easy...like barely a tick when it comes to the bottom line.  If we don’t, it could cost us more.”

That’s free market capitalism.

 
OrtonToOlsen said:
Hey, conservatives...not to get political...but...

Private company does something

Some people say “Whoa!”

Private company thinks “Maybe we made a mistake...pulling this product will be cheap and easy...like barely a tick when it comes to the bottom line.  If we don’t, it could cost us more.”

That’s free market capitalism.
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Literally nobody disagrees with this.  

 
Juxtatarot said:
If Alie gets them "banned" in my state, does that mean I can't use mine?  Do I have to turn them back in?  

They can have my plate when they pry it out from from under my cold, delicious lasagna.  
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It's like when the NCAA takes away wins from a team due to transgressions. You have to pretend you never saw the game and burn your ticket. In this case, take a sledgehammer to the  plates and bury the remains.

 
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mom-jean-plates-macys-pulls-plates-with-mom-jeans-and-skinny-jeans-portions/

Macy's said it has halted sales of novelty plates that outlined "mom jean" and "skinny jean" food portions after consumers on social media said the design body-shamed people. The retailer apologized "for missing the mark on this product."

"After reviewing the complaint, we quickly removed the plates, which were only in our ... Macy's location in Herald Square" in New York City, a Macy's spokesman said in an email. 

The plates were called out on Twitter on Sunday by Ali Ward, a science correspondent for CBS's "The Henry Ford's Innovation Nation with Mo Rocca," who spotted the items at a Macy's store. The plates have three concentric circles, with the narrowest labeled with "skinny jeans" and the largest with "mom jeans." 
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Twitter was not kind. https://twitter.com/jameelajamil/status/1153126592853360640?s=20

What do you think? 

 
Capella said:
I guess what I don’t understand is if you don’t like them.....don’t buy them? There’s only one way those plates make it into your kitchen and that’s if you allow it. Same thing with people complaining about violence or nudity on tv. You’re only seeing it if you choose to. 
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Exactly.

 
It's odd that this would be considered "fat shaming" because anyone that bought them would be in on the joke. It's not directed at anyone that does not own the plate.

 
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