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Pre-camp DEN FF projections (1 Viewer)

Denver Obsession

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So, I tried out my fantasy football projection skills today... As a disclaimer, I would NEVER claim to be an expert in fantasy football (although I'm very proud of the championship title I won in a co-worker's league several years ago), so take these with at least one grain of salt. Also, I don't see any point to projecting deep into wide receiver or tight end positions right now as we have no real idea what the depth chart in Denver will look like in August. Therefore, I've limited my notes and predictions to the top player in each category. Here goes...

QB Jay Cutler: 3100 yrds passing, 130 yards rushing, 19 TDs, 11 int, 3 fumble

SUMMARY: The only way Jay finishes under 3000 yards passing would be if Denver is ahead every game at halftime and Travis Henry pounds out nearly 2000 yards on the ground (see 1998). With that not very likely, I'll take 3100 yards for the season. I've seen very low projected numbers for Cutler's rushing yards, and although I think Shanahan will try to keep The Kid safe, he's more mobile than Griese and he still had between 100-130 yards each year. I'll guess 18 TD's as I believe many of Denver's scores will be pushed in by Henry in short yardage situations. Several sites have Cutler's INT numbers higher, but again I think the improved ground game puts less pressure on Jay therefore he keeps the picks low this year.

RB Travis Henry: 1450 yrds rushing, 200 yrds receiving, 12 TDs, 4 fumbles

SUMMARY: Unless he gets hurt, Travis Henry is putting up ~1500 yards rushing. That's a flat out given. He will also increase his passing yardage over past years, as Denver uses it's backs at checkdown receivers often. I have Henry down for 12 touchdowns because Shanahan likes to send his power-back in on goalline situations and Henry will get those calls. Henry only had 3 fumbles last year in 14 games, and with Denver's RB guru Turner coaching Henry this off-season, that number will stay low.



WR Javon Walker: 1050 yrds receiving, 100 yrds rushing, 9 TDs.

SUMMARY: Many fantasy experts are citing Walker's declined number after Cutler took over as a sign that Jay doesn't look to Walker as much as Jake did. In reality, after Walker lite up the score board in the early part of the season, defenses started to view him as a serious threat and redoubled their coverage of him. I'm sure that will happen again this year; however, I also think we have enough other weapons that defenses will truly be forced to 'pick their poison.' My projections are lower than some because I see Denver having multiple quality targets for Cutler to throw to this year. And remember, with Shanahan's system the ball will be spread around quite a bit.

TE Daniel Graham: 400 yrds receiving, 4 TDs



SUMMARY: Unlike New England, Graham will catch passes for the Broncos. In addition to that, he will be an endzone target (like many tightend before him). Shanahan likes to put his 'blocking tightends' into the endzone (see Carswell). So, I think Graham (who had great hands in college) will do well this year and will likely become an every down TE for the team.

K Jason Elam: 32 AFG, 28 MFG, 40 XPA, 40 XPM

SUMMARY: Jason's career FG average is better than 80% and he's coming off his best year in 2006 with 93% of his kicks going for points. Jason has placed in the top ten best kickers the last ten years with six top five placements. Kickers may not be the number one priority to Fantasy Football owners, but they play an important part in maximizing your weekly points. And in that area, Jason Elam is as solid as you can get.

TEAM Defense: 41 sacks, 17 INT, 13 FR, 3 TDs, 5000 yrds allowed, 290 pts allowed

SUMMARY: With Bates, Denver should increase their number of sacks considerably. With Champ AND Bly, our interceptions should be as good as last year's and I even increased our defensive TD's by one for 2007. Over all, Denver should have a solid team defense that will fall within the top 10 or 13 of the league. Again, this might be a great value pick after the top team defenses are taken.

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So, what do you think? Are these close to your projections? Way out in left space somewhere? Let me know...
 
I like what you've done here for the most part. My only quip is that Cutler's interceptions seem too low. Some of his interceptions were completely bone-headed, so I would want to see those completely eliminated from his game via pre-season action before I would sign off on less than 15 INTs.

Disclaimer: I'm a Broncos fan.

 
I like what you've done here for the most part. My only quip is that Cutler's interceptions seem too low. Some of his interceptions were completely bone-headed, so I would want to see those completely eliminated from his game via pre-season action before I would sign off on less than 15 INTs. Disclaimer: I'm a Broncos fan.
Yeah, I figured his 5 from the 1/3 of a season he played last year would work out to about 15 this year. But I really think some of those were due to Cutler being a rookie thrown into a rough situation last year. It probably needs to be a bit higher than I listed it, but I do think it will be less (per game) than last year's numbers....and if it's unclear to anyone, I'm also a huge Denver fan -- I would hate for anyone to think this was unbiased! :thumbup:
 
Denver Obsession said:
RB Travis Henry: 1450 yrds rushing, 200 yrds receiving, 12 TDs, 4 fumbles
Henry would have been a top four RB last year if he had those statistics. It might be a bit biased.
 
It'd be interesting to see what you have on tap for Mike Bell given Henry's totals.
I think whoever is backing Henry up will have numbers simliar to those of past back ups when we have a single leading back (~300-350 yards for the year and maybe 3-4 TDs). That is UNLESS Henry gets injured... in that case the door is open for any of the back ups to blow up.POST ELWAY YEARS:2004 - Droughns=1240 & Bell=3962003 - Portis=1591 & Griffin=3452002 - Portis=1506 & Anderson=3862001 - No 1000 yard rusher2000 - Anderson=1487 & Davis=2821999 - Gary=1159 & Davis=211
 
Denver Obsession said:
RB Travis Henry: 1450 yrds rushing, 200 yrds receiving, 12 TDs, 4 fumbles
Henry would have been a top four RB last year if he had those statistics. It might be a bit biased.
I think Henry is the best Denver player on the boards for Fantasy owners (at this point). Let's see what he does at Camp and in Pre-season, but I believe he can add 239 yards to last year's numbers with no problem. He had an average of 12 TD's in NY when he played a full season and 7 last year (with TN playing from behind quite a bit). He also averaged over 200 yards receiving for the Bills. So, these numbers aren't unreasonable for a leading back in Denver's system. IMHO :shrug:
 
People are seriously overlooking Javon Walker this season. He puts up a monster year in 2004 then gets hurt in 2005 only to put up another great season in 2006. He had 1200 yards and 9 tds last year in his first year back from ACL surgery and while having to catch passes from a garbage quarterback in Jake Plummer and a rookie in Jay Cutler.

I don't know where this Jay Cutler not looking to Javon Walker nonsense came from. All you have to do is watch that game between the Broncos and Cardinals when Cutler hit Walker with that bomb for the touchdown. That was too sweet. You think Cutler's gonna get tired of doing that? Hell, just look at the team. Who else is gonna catch the ball? Rod Smith's like 40. Brandon Marshall and Tony Scheffler have "potential" but that doesn't really count for much now does it?

Here's the way I look at it. Javon Walker had a good season, a top-10 coming back from ACL surgery and having no quarterback. Just imagine what he'll be able to accomplish with his knee being even stronger this season and actually having a decent quarterback in Jay Cutler. In terms of upside for Javon Walker I think the sky is the limit. It wouldn't shock me if he put up 1400 and 12 this season.

 
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Good work.

What are your thoughts on Brandon Marshall and Tony Scheffler?
Tony first....Tony has a shot at scoring more fantasy points than Daniel if he gets the playing time. Last year, Tony had 219 yrds and 4 TD's in the last five games with Cutler. That would make nearly 750 yards and 17 TD's if we use the game averages alone to project 2007. However, Tony wasn't covered heavily during those first few games with Cutler -- It won't be that easy this year when teams are looking for that hook-up.

Personnaly, I would love to see a TE season like 2000 & 2001 when we have Dwayne "House" Carswell and Desmond Clark. In 2000 our 'blocking' TE (Carswell) had 495 yards & 3 TDs, and our 'receiving' TE (Clark) had 339 & 3 TDS. In 2001, the yardage numbers were reversed and Clark had 566 yards with 6 TDs and House rumbled 299 more yards and 4 TDs. I could see Tony and Daniel having a season like those if they both get playing time and neither are injured.

But that's the trouble. Will they both get all that playing time? And can Tony stay injury free (currently recovering from a broken foot)? If Tony gets the playing time and stays injury free he WILL out score Daniel in Fantasy numbers in 2007.

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Brandon Marshall...Baby TO has put in a major off-season of work (both at Dove Valley and at FAST in Florida). Everyone in the organization has been impressed with his work and expect him to have a HUGE year this year. Again, last year (once Cutler took over) Brandon blow onto the scene. He had an average of almost 50 yards per game. That would be around 750-850 yards for a full season at that rate. He only had 2 TD, but I would give him more than that average would produce if he makes it into the starting line up ahead of Smith.

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Really, both of these positions (TE & WR) will be in flux through camp and preseason. Until then, we can only guess (and in my case very poorly) on what they will do in 2007.
 
Good work.What are your thoughts on Brandon Marshall and Tony Scheffler?
It would appear that he will do really well, considering that in the projections Cutler has a total of 3100 yds and 19 TD's. He's only accounted for 1650 yds and 16 TD's (left out any rec TD by Henry since it wasn't seperated) with Javon Walker, T. Henry and Graham. Thus, he has approximately 1500 yds left and 3 TD's for B. Marshall and the others. A lot of yds, but not too many TD's.
 
Denver Obsession said:
SUMMARY: The only way Jay finishes under 3000 yards passing would be if Denver is ahead every game at halftime and Travis Henry pounds out nearly 2000 yards on the ground (see 1998).
Denver passed for 3808 yards and 32 TDs in 1998. Both numbers are significantly above Denver's yearly averages since Shanahan came to town.
Denver Obsession said:
RB Travis Henry: 1450 yrds rushing, 200 yrds receiving, 12 TDs, 4 fumbles
Henry would have been a top four RB last year if he had those statistics. It might be a bit biased.
Look at Denver's historical numbers when they've had a workhorse RB. Look at Travis Henry's historical numbers when he's BEEN a workhorse RB. I don't think those statistics are out of line at all. Remember that those projections are assuming 16 games, and I'm sure more than 4 RBs would have beaten that mark if they'd just played a full 16 games (meaning while, for season-ending purposes, that would have ranked him 4th, if you project without any injury adjustment, those numbers should probably rank him more in the 6-10th range).
 

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