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Pre-Game Thread - Philadelphia Eagles at Minnesota Vikings (1 Viewer)
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The Man with the Plan
Footballguy
Adrian Peterson in his first playoff game. It's time for the next great running back to carry his team to post-season glory like others before him like Emmitt Smith, Eric Dickerson, Barry Sanders. Ok maybe not Barry Sanders but you get my point.
ArcticEdge
Footballguy
Sweet, we get to play one of the hottest teams in the NFL right now in the first round. 
ArcticEdge
Footballguy
Hey, since we are a higher seed, can we trade withe Arizona and play Atlanta?
JZilla
Footballguy
The Eagles lost to the sorry no-account Redskins last week in what should have been considered a must-win. The Vikings can easily take this if they play smart, don't make dumb mistakes on offense and stop the predictable run. Don't read too much into the Cowgirls' implosion today.
BRAD CHILDRESS
JZilla
Footballguy
Jim Zorn?
ScottyFargo
Footballguy
The Eagles aren't enough of a powerhouse to make the Vikes underdogs at home. I prefer to root for the underdog though, so I hope everybody plays up this perception. I'm glad the Eagles showed the world what a joke the Cowboys are, but the Vikings are very capable of dominating the Eagles this weekend.
JerseyEagles
Footballguy
Jim Johnson will make Tavaris Jackson beat the Birds D. He loves him some young, inconsistent QBs. I like the way the Eagles secondary stacks up against the Vikes WRs, the names of whom escape me right now.
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ScottyFargo
Footballguy
That would be a mistake considering Tarvaris has been anything but inconsistent since he came back against Detroit. Jackson has turned the corner, and I pray that the Eagles defense is as blind as their fans in considering the Vikings offense. On the year, he has a 95.4 passer rating. This is after his two stinkers in the first two weeks where he didn't break a 74 passer rating in either game.
JerseyEagles
Footballguy
Not sure this is really an accurate yard stick with only 6 games played all year, 2 of which skew the results heavily. Wasn't really a man on fire today against the Giants' B team.
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
Jackson didn't look great but the good news for the Vikings is that the Giants brought pressure much like Jim Johnson will do next week. This should give them a chance to look at it on film and (hopefully) fix the protection. Should be a good game. Vikes will have to get more pressure on the QB if they want to win.
ScottyFargo
Footballguy
Tarvaris Jackson was the Vikings B team.
mozzy84
Footballguy
you can tell they are missing pat williams, hope he is back next weekend
renesauz
IBL Representative
The Eagles match up against the Vikings beautifully, and on paper should win this game easily.
BUT (and this is a huge but)
The eagles are the most schizophrenic (sp?) team in the NFL, and are capable of losing to the leagues worst teams just as easily as they are capable of blowing out the leagues best.
The only thing I know for sure is that the game is not likely to be a close one. A blowout is more likely...but by whom?
If Marty Morningweg (sp?)is calling the plays for Philly, the Philly O looks better.
BUT (and this is a huge but)
The eagles are the most schizophrenic (sp?) team in the NFL, and are capable of losing to the leagues worst teams just as easily as they are capable of blowing out the leagues best.
The only thing I know for sure is that the game is not likely to be a close one. A blowout is more likely...but by whom?
If Marty Morningweg (sp?)is calling the plays for Philly, the Philly O looks better.
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Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Early line:
Philly -3
O/U 42 to 42.5
Philly -3
O/U 42 to 42.5
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Master vs. student; who will make the biggest blunder?
3 hour lunch
Footballguy
Bad news for the Vikes, who would have had a better chance against Dallas, Tampa or Chicago. The Vikes need some big plays to stay in this one, I think. Also limit sacks/turnovers on Philly blitzes. Easier said than done, of course. Philly by 10. 
ScottyFargo
Footballguy
I would have preferred Chicago, then Philly, Dallas and Tampa last. Philly is definitely heading into the playoffs with a head of steam so it's still far from an ideal matchup for the Vikings.Bad news for the Vikes, who would have had a better chance against Dallas, Tampa or Chicago. The Vikes need some big plays to stay in this one, I think. Also limit sacks/turnovers on Philly blitzes. Easier said than done, of course. Philly by 10.
Rogi
Footballguy
I'd be even more concerned about AP's knack for fumbling the ball lately. The Eagles were creating a lot of turnovers against the Cowboys today and they must be salivating over the potential opportunities against butter fingers.
encaitar
Footballguy
Honestly, I think that the Vikings don't have a chance unless Pat Williams can go next week. Their run defense was very average the past two weeks and a healthy Westbrook would have a field day unless Fat Pat can recover in time. I was impressed with how TJack handled the INT yesterday though. The TJack from earlier this year would've self destructed after throwing a pick, but yesterday he came back and made some of his best throws on the very next drive. Hopefully he can continue his decent play next Sunday because I'm pretty sure Jim Johnson will scheme to take ADP out of the game.
I love the Vikings run defense. Love ADP. But the Eagles are pretty scary. The Eagles seem to be that team that wallop the top teams (Steelers, Giants, and Cowboys all got manhandled) but they stumble against lesser opponents (Redskins). If the Eagles stay focused, I think they'll win the conference. Picking the Eagles here.
harryhood
Footballguy
Not happy to know there is a good chance Philly will be coming into the Meadowlands(pending they handle business on the road) to face the Giants in the 2nd round. Would much rather see the Ari/Atl winner heading up to NY. Philly is hot right now, at the right time.
Philly wins this one and PHI/NYG will be a battle.
Philly wins this one and PHI/NYG will be a battle.
If the Eagles who showed up 4 of the last 5 weeks play in Minnesota on Sunday, they win 27-3 or something like that.
If the Eagles team that travelled to Washington shows up, Vikings win 14-3 or something like that.
Not really groundbreaking information, I know, but being an Eagles fan, we just have no idea which team is going to show up.
If the Eagles team that travelled to Washington shows up, Vikings win 14-3 or something like that.
Not really groundbreaking information, I know, but being an Eagles fan, we just have no idea which team is going to show up.
JerseyEagles
Footballguy
The worry from Eagles' fans standpoint is that Andy will take a look at the Vikes run D stats at home and decide, "well, looks like we're putting Westy back up on the shelf this week, time to throw all day". This is the nightmare scenario that has doomed the birds all season. Run the ball Andy, run.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
I hate that I think the Eagles will win this big. Usually when I build up a lot of fear and uncertainty in my mind about the Birds playoff chances, they play well. Hopefully the opposite isn't true.
dirtywaters20
Footballguy
JerseyEagles said:
Mik789fl
Footballguy
I haven't seen anything from The Vikes in the last month that makes me think they can win this game. the Eagles win over The Cowboys was impressive but I wouldn't read too much into it as The 'Boys have been overated since week 1 and when the game started slipping away from them their true demeanor came through,their not a "team",just a bunch of individual,overhyped cry babies. But take nothing away form The Eagles,they had an oppurtunity and seized it. The Eagles D should control this game,if McNabb plays mistake free The Birds will win by two scores minimum.
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
I'm not saying that the Vikings will win this game, but they should not be taken lightly. They won 5 of their last 6 games (and 7 of their last 9) and they have the talent to make a run. Again, not saying they will win, but they have a much better chance than many seem to think.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
I thought this was a good matchup for the Birds. They hate to run, and Minny has a great run D; they can just pass all game.The Vikings D is underrated, though; in years past they were just a great run D but they've got a solid pass defense now. Much tougher matchup than the people in this thread seem to think.JerseyEagles said:
snogger
Footballguy
My main concern has been the lack of a Pass rush since Williams the 2nd went out. That and the lack of turnovers produced by the Vikings defense has me concerned. Our offense, short of two big plays; ADP's run and Giants CB falling down leaving Berrian wide open, was VERY flat against the Giants and didn't exactly light it up against he Falcons.The Vikings defense, IMO, need to create at least two turnovers and TJ and ADP need to not have any themselves in order for the Vikings to win.I thought this was a good matchup for the Birds. They hate to run, and Minny has a great run D; they can just pass all game.The Vikings D is underrated, though; in years past they were just a great run D but they've got a solid pass defense now. Much tougher matchup than the people in this thread seem to think.JerseyEagles said:
Please See Mine
Footballguy
Eagles have had lots of problems in games where they've tried to pass a lot when they think it is their best option. Specifically, the Washington and Cincinnati games.In their last 4 wins, they used the run much more effectively early, which kept the defenses more off-balance.I thought this was a good matchup for the Birds. They hate to run, and Minny has a great run D; they can just pass all game.The Vikings D is underrated, though; in years past they were just a great run D but they've got a solid pass defense now. Much tougher matchup than the people in this thread seem to think.JerseyEagles said:
Ruffrodys05
IBL Representative
I agree Chase. This matchup on the outset looks promising for the Eagles, but upon closer examination it can be said that Minny has a very good chance of controlling the game at the line of scrimmage and winning rather easily.As an Eagles fan, I am very leary of the Vikings right now. As a team, we had better be ready and prepared to play.I thought this was a good matchup for the Birds. They hate to run, and Minny has a great run D; they can just pass all game.The Vikings D is underrated, though; in years past they were just a great run D but they've got a solid pass defense now. Much tougher matchup than the people in this thread seem to think.JerseyEagles said:
Eagles have had lots of problems in games where they've tried to pass a lot when they think it is their best option. Specifically, the Washington and Cincinnati games.In their last 4 wins, they used the run much more effectively early, which kept the defenses more off-balance.I thought this was a good matchup for the Birds. They hate to run, and Minny has a great run D; they can just pass all game.The Vikings D is underrated, though; in years past they were just a great run D but they've got a solid pass defense now. Much tougher matchup than the people in this thread seem to think.JerseyEagles said:
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Surprising facts: Minnesota's QBs have a better QB rating than opposing QBs facing Minnesota. Minnesota QBs also average more adjusted net yards per pass attempt than opposing QBs facing Minnesota. People seem to think that the Min QB is bad and the Min pass D is bad, but that's just not true. The Min QB is slightly below average but the Min pass D is an above average D.
Game Time
Footballguy
it will be interesting to see how much JJ decides to blitz... Jackson can be dangerous if flushed out... Guy may be erratic at passing, but can make things happen with his feet... I say put 8 in the box... stop the run and keep Jackson in the pocket... Make his wr's beat our corners.... where I think advantage goes to us...
Who's been saying the Min pass D is bad? I've been under the impression that the Vikings have been largely ignored while the press follows the Cowboys, Giants, etc.
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Chunky Soup
Footballguy
Eagles have a truly elite D, and I think the key to the game will be MIN D v. the inconsistent Eagles O.
I've always liked when the Eagles went up against rushing teams and mobile QBs. Vick and ATL rushing + LT have all been handled. Not to mention Forte, Turner, Parker, Barber, SJAx, NYG 2nd game, Portis 2nd game, etc this year. Very quick and aggressive defense and corners that can single cover. MIN has a pretty one-dimensional offense, and if the Eagles can take care of Peterson (and they know this is coming because of the MIN predictability) they shouldn't have a big problem. They can sell out to the run no problem and hold TJax in check. I worry much, much more about McNabb/Westbrook and what the game plan will be.
I've always liked when the Eagles went up against rushing teams and mobile QBs. Vick and ATL rushing + LT have all been handled. Not to mention Forte, Turner, Parker, Barber, SJAx, NYG 2nd game, Portis 2nd game, etc this year. Very quick and aggressive defense and corners that can single cover. MIN has a pretty one-dimensional offense, and if the Eagles can take care of Peterson (and they know this is coming because of the MIN predictability) they shouldn't have a big problem. They can sell out to the run no problem and hold TJax in check. I worry much, much more about McNabb/Westbrook and what the game plan will be.
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
That would be Bernard Berrian (964 yards), Bobby Wade (645 yards) and Visanthe Shiancoe (596 yards) which don't strike fear into most teams, but compare quite well with the Eagles' top three WRs Desean Jackson (912 yards), Hank Baskett (440 yards) and Kevin Curtis (390 yards). If you throw RBs into the equation, it is also very close: Westbrook (402 yards) and Chester Taylor (399 yards). I'm not saying the Vikings' passing game strikes the fear into many defensive coordinators but they aren't as bad as people think.JerseyEagles said:
Chunky Soup
Footballguy
at sticking up for MIN with Berrian, Wade and Shiancoe. And a big for comparing Chester Taylor to Westbrook. Come on.As far as the MIN passing game as a whole, they average 185 yards per game passing. Compare that to 245 per game for the Eagles. MIN has 17 INT, PHI 16 INT. Not really sure what you're trying to compare here with striking fear, etc. The Eagles would love to see TJax throwing a lot.
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
I just compared Westbrooks' receiving yardage to Taylors' - didn't compare them as players - overreact much?My point was, they aren't as bad as people think. Didn't say they were great.for comparing Chester Taylor to Westbrook. Come on.As far as the MIN passing game as a whole, they average 185 yards per game passing. Compare that to 245 per game for the Eagles. MIN has 17 INT, PHI 16 INT. Not really sure what you're trying to compare here with striking fear, etc. The Eagles would love to see TJax throwing a lot.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
The only reason the Eagles average more passing yards per game than the Vikings is because the Eagles pass more than the Vikings. I'm sure the Vikings would love to see McNabb throwing a lot, too.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
am I the only one who see's Philly just rolling in this one? Tarvarias.....nuff said
As Eagle fans can tell you, that will be answered after two posessions.If they come out with two or three three-and-outs and look flat like they did against Cincy or Washington, it's going to be a 10-7-type game that can go either way.If their first two or three drives results in a TD and a FG or 2, it could get ugly.Being the game is at Minnesota in a very loud dome, I doubt that Philly will have the same energy and confidence as they showed yesterday.
Please See Mine
Footballguy
And Minny has 7.1 yds/att to Phila's 6.7.The only reason the Eagles average more passing yards per game than the Vikings is because the Eagles pass more than the Vikings.at sticking up for MIN with Berrian, Wade and Shiancoe. And a big
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
further proof that you can use stats to prove anything. One thing is a fact. Tarvarias isnt who you want to QB your team into the playoffs.
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