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Priest = Bust (1 Viewer)

I watched the game. Maybe you didnt, I dont know? You certainly seem to ignore the yards after contact, LJ's troubles on short yardage, Priests classic leap into the endzone, Priest's nice left sweep run where he beat defenders to the corners as well as Priest's final run of the day where he looked more like the Priest of old.
This is actually the first year I've ever owned Priest and I was a little worried that maybe Priest had lost a step after watching him week one. But those two runs told me all I needed to know: he's still got the burst. Anyone who thinks Priest is slow is either not watching the games or fishing.
 
I don't know what people were thinking taking him as high as they were. He's old, he has a serious threat for touches on his team, and he hasn't made it through in entire season in years.

 
I don't know what people were thinking taking him as high as they were. He's old, he has a serious threat for touches on his team, and he hasn't made it through in entire season in years.
He's the starting RB for KC! The team that dominates fantasy RB scoring. Thats why. Very High Reward> Risk
 
Let's try this one more time . . .

Priest could get the same workload he always has (300-320 carries) with Johnson getting the leftovers, which in KC could still be 150 carries because they run so much.

The KC line has been banged up and the Chiefs have not had many goal line opportunities yet.

Holmes could still get 20 TD and Johnson could get 10 TD and they STILL would have fewer TD then they did last year when they had 35 TD from the RB spot.

Holmes has had 183 yards and 2 TD so far . . . that's on pace for almost 1500 yards and 16 TD and that's assuming he doesn't do any better.

He's also on pace for 360 touches REGARDLESS OF WHAT JOHNSON HAS DONE SO FAR.  IMO, if Holmes can get anywhere near 360 touches (admittedly unlikely due to his ability to get nicked up), I still think he could be the #1 RB.
:goodposting: Glad I am not the only one who looks at the numbers
how many of those touches are receptions? thats gotta hurt in PPR leagues.4 catches for 20 yards?

bottom line, the committe will kill him becuase in the past he put up #s in less than 16 starts, then you start LJ in his place and get #1 overall #s. plus he had games that carried FF teams.

now he is 1/2 the man he used to be. which is still good, but its still a let down compared to the old priest. and since no one saw the committee coming, dont sugar coat it
So what will silence the Holmes critics (not directed at you specifically)?Another 150 yard/3 TD game against Denver?

 
I don't know what people were thinking taking him as high as they were. He's old, he has a serious threat for touches on his team, and he hasn't made it through in entire season in years.
He's the starting RB for KC! The team that dominates fantasy RB scoring. Thats why. Very High Reward> Risk
Yea, but he's old, he's fragile, and he wasn't a lock to get a huge majority of the carries. The odds didn't warrant a top ten pick.
 
I watched the game.  Maybe you didnt, I dont know?  You certainly seem to ignore the yards after contact, LJ's troubles on short yardage, Priests classic leap into the endzone, Priest's nice left sweep run where he beat defenders to the corners as well as Priest's final run of the day where he looked more like the Priest of old.
This is actually the first year I've ever owned Priest and I was a little worried that maybe Priest had lost a step after watching him week one. But those two runs told me all I needed to know: he's still got the burst. Anyone who thinks Priest is slow is either not watching the games or fishing.
My point exactly. Again, he wont get those 25 points games every week. Granted, LJ is a very talented back and brings something unique to the table.But anyone who understands what the NFL running game is about would recognize that Priest showed us on 5-6 Occasions why he is so unique. He isnt the fastest, or quickest and certainly not the biggest... but he gets the corner better than anyone, sets up blocks better than anyone, and man, can he find the endzone.

If you want to say he will have less production because of LJ, that is fair. To say he is "slow" is to join the bandwagon that ended about 3-4 years ago... when everyone thought he was slow and not worthy even though he was about to get 20+ tds.

 
I don't know what people were thinking taking him as high as they were. He's old, he has a serious threat for touches on his team, and he hasn't made it through in entire season in years.
He's the starting RB for KC! The team that dominates fantasy RB scoring. Thats why. Very High Reward> Risk
Yea, but he's old, he's fragile, and he wasn't a lock to get a huge majority of the carries. The odds didn't warrant a top ten pick.
:eek: After two "subpar" efforts, Priest is currently #7 RB in most leagues. I'm not sure we'll see 25 TDs, but he only needs 15 to finish top 10.

I took Priest #3 overall in one of my money leagues, and I'm extremely happy with his production and percentage of touches thus far with a banged up KC OL.

 
I don't know what people were thinking taking him as high as they were. He's old, he has a serious threat for touches on his team, and he hasn't made it through in entire season in years.
He's the starting RB for KC! The team that dominates fantasy RB scoring. Thats why. Very High Reward> Risk
Yea, but he's old, he's fragile, and he wasn't a lock to get a huge majority of the carries. The odds didn't warrant a top ten pick.
:eek: After two "subpar" efforts, Priest is currently #7 RB in most leagues. I'm not sure we'll see 25 TDs, but he only needs 15 to finish top 10.

I took Priest #3 overall in one of my money leagues, and I'm extremely happy with his production and percentage of touches thus far with a banged up KC OL.
How do you know that these efforts were sub par? Maybe they've actually been good games for him. Anyhow, his YPC is down and it's clear to me that his reputation outweighs his actual worth. I don't think many teams that have Priest as their RB1 will win championships this year.

 
I don't know what people were thinking taking him as high as they were. He's old, he has a serious threat for touches on his team, and he hasn't made it through in entire season in years.
He's the starting RB for KC! The team that dominates fantasy RB scoring. Thats why. Very High Reward> Risk
Yea, but he's old, he's fragile, and he wasn't a lock to get a huge majority of the carries. The odds didn't warrant a top ten pick.
:eek: After two "subpar" efforts, Priest is currently #7 RB in most leagues. I'm not sure we'll see 25 TDs, but he only needs 15 to finish top 10.

I took Priest #3 overall in one of my money leagues, and I'm extremely happy with his production and percentage of touches thus far with a banged up KC OL.
How do you know that these efforts were sub par? Maybe they've actually been good games for him. Anyhow, his YPC is down and it's clear to me that his reputation outweighs his actual worth. I don't think many teams that have Priest as their RB1 will win championships this year.
:lmao:
 
Let's try this one more time . . .

Priest could get the same workload he always has (300-320 carries) with Johnson getting the leftovers, which in KC could still be 150 carries because they run so much.

The KC line has been banged up and the Chiefs have not had many goal line opportunities yet.

Holmes could still get 20 TD and Johnson could get 10 TD and they STILL would have fewer TD then they did last year when they had 35 TD from the RB spot.

Holmes has had 183 yards and 2 TD so far . . . that's on pace for almost 1500 yards and 16 TD and that's assuming he doesn't do any better.

He's also on pace for 360 touches REGARDLESS OF WHAT JOHNSON HAS DONE SO FAR. IMO, if Holmes can get anywhere near 360 touches (admittedly unlikely due to his ability to get nicked up), I still think he could be the #1 RB.
Agreed. The only time people should be using Priest Holmes and Bust in the same sentence is if they're speculating on how much more he has to do to be assured of getting one when he retires.Personally, I think he'll miss out for the same reason Terrell Davis is going to miss out. Absolutely dominant when he was in, but too short of a career.

I'm also convinced that Holmes only has this year and maybe one more left in him. He's been talking WAAAAY too much about retirement for my liking.

 
I see the LJ pimps talking about Priest pulling himself out of the game after a couple of decent runs and say he is tired.Did anybody ever think that Priest is using LJ? Maybe he knows what play will be coming next and if it has something to do with taking on a 250+ pound LB on a blitz, he would just as soon let LJ take that pounding? LJ is making the most of his opportunities for sure, but Priest is a veteran, if he feels like he needs to come out for a play or two and the end result helps me win games later in the season, by all means Priest, take a breather!B. Nugget

 
After two "subpar" efforts, Priest is currently #7 RB in most leagues. I'm not sure we'll see 25 TDs, but he only needs 15 to finish top 10.I took Priest #3 overall in one of my money leagues, and I'm extremely happy with his production and percentage of touches thus far with a banged up KC OL.
I keep harping on the math, because that's really the only thing we have to go by. After two games, the Holmes / LJ pairing is on pace for 2,736 total yards and 40 TD. Somebody is going to get a ton of yards and TD. If it's 50/50, then BOTH guys would still get a boatload of production.As things stand now, LJ is the #6 RB and Holmes #7. I think it's pretty evisent that Johnson won't be able to stay that high on under 10 carries a game.If Holmes only gets 15 TD, then one of the following had to happen . . .- KC abandoned the run and they had to pass all day each week- LJ took over and Holmes gets less than half of the workload- LJ became the goal line backThe Chiefs RB have scored over 30 TD the last 3 years. They would need to have a lot go wrong to not either get that many or approach tha many again.
 
So 1440 yards and 16 TDs won't finish top 10?That runs contrary to EVERYTHING a "bust" implies. :confused:

 
Let's try this one more time . . .

Priest could get the same workload he always has (300-320 carries) with Johnson getting the leftovers, which in KC could still be 150 carries because they run so much.

The KC line has been banged up and the Chiefs have not had many goal line opportunities yet.

Holmes could still get 20 TD and Johnson could get 10 TD and they STILL would have fewer TD then they did last year when they had 35 TD from the RB spot.

Holmes has had 183 yards and 2 TD so far . . . that's on pace for almost 1500 yards and 16 TD and that's assuming he doesn't do any better.

He's also on pace for 360 touches REGARDLESS OF WHAT JOHNSON HAS DONE SO FAR.  IMO, if Holmes can get anywhere near 360 touches (admittedly unlikely due to his ability to get nicked up), I still think he could be the #1 RB.
:goodposting: Glad I am not the only one who looks at the numbers
how many of those touches are receptions? thats gotta hurt in PPR leagues.4 catches for 20 yards?

bottom line, the committe will kill him becuase in the past he put up #s in less than 16 starts, then you start LJ in his place and get #1 overall #s. plus he had games that carried FF teams.

now he is 1/2 the man he used to be. which is still good, but its still a let down compared to the old priest. and since no one saw the committee coming, dont sugar coat it
So what will silence the Holmes critics (not directed at you specifically)?Another 150 yard/3 TD game against Denver?
iam no critic in terms of talent. he simply wont have the opportuynity to put up the #s he did in the past. i say FF players are better off having preist get all the touches, get hurt, then put in LJ for all the carries. assuming they have LJ.

 
So 1440 yards and 16 TDs won't finish top 10?

That runs contrary to EVERYTHING a "bust" implies.

:confused:
problem is, he put those #s up in partial season in years past. then he got knicked and you could go with the backup and get good #s. but the total #s would still be much better than 1440/16and if he doesnt score 16. :X

or if he gets hurt and cant play? he wasnt worth it, cuz in the past, p.holmes carries teams. now he keeps you in games.

the receptions are a problem too

 
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So 1440 yards and 16 TDs won't finish top 10?

That runs contrary to EVERYTHING a "bust" implies.

:confused:
problem is, he put those #s up in partial season in years past. then he got knicked and you could go with the backup and get good #s. but the total #s would still be much better than 1440/16and if he doesnt score 16. :X
Once the Priest scores 3+ in a game this place will come back down to earthyou :X

 
So 1440 yards and 16 TDs won't finish top 10?

That runs contrary to EVERYTHING a "bust" implies.

:confused:
problem is, he put those #s up in partial season in years past. then he got knicked and you could go with the backup and get good #s. but the total #s would still be much better than 1440/16and if he doesnt score 16. :X

or if he gets hurt and cant play? he wasnt worth it, cuz in the past, p.holmes carries teams. now he keeps you in games.
So by your definition, Priest can be a "bust" and still finish top 10???
 
So 1440 yards and 16 TDs won't finish top 10?

That runs contrary to EVERYTHING a "bust" implies.

:confused:
problem is, he put those #s up in partial season in years past. then he got knicked and you could go with the backup and get good #s. but the total #s would still be much better than 1440/16and if he doesnt score 16. :X
Once the Priest scores 3+ in a game this place will come back down to earthyou :X
if he has the opportunity to do so, great. so far, he hasnt
 
So 1440 yards and 16 TDs won't finish top 10?

That runs contrary to EVERYTHING a "bust" implies.

:confused:
problem is, he put those #s up in partial season in years past. then he got knicked and you could go with the backup and get good #s. but the total #s would still be much better than 1440/16and if he doesnt score 16. :X

or if he gets hurt and cant play? he wasnt worth it, cuz in the past, p.holmes carries teams. now he keeps you in games.
So by your definition, Priest can be a "bust" and still finish top 10???
yea. top 10 means nothing. its how the #s come, not just total #s.

unless you play total points

 
top 10 means nothing. its how the #s come, not just total #s.

unless you play total points
:lmao: Thats a new topic in iteselfP.S. only 4 of the projected top10 RBs last year finished top10

 
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So 1440 yards and 16 TDs won't finish top 10?

That runs contrary to EVERYTHING a "bust" implies.

:confused:
problem is, he put those #s up in partial season in years past. then he got knicked and you could go with the backup and get good #s. but the total #s would still be much better than 1440/16and if he doesnt score 16. :X

or if he gets hurt and cant play? he wasnt worth it, cuz in the past, p.holmes carries teams. now he keeps you in games.
So by your definition, Priest can be a "bust" and still finish top 10???
yea. top 10 means nothing. its how the #s come, not just total #s.

unless you play total points
:confused: :confused: :confused: WTF?

So being consistent over 16 games and scoring x points is WORSE than having up and down games and getting the same amount of points???

LMAO at "top 10 means nothing". I thought having top 10 RBs is how you win in Fantasy Football...

 
No, he didn't look as explosive as he used to but calling him a bust after only two games seems to be jumping the gun.
He looked SLOW and we just started.. Sorry but Priest has lost something.. I wouldn't expect top 10 numbers this year unless he finds some burst. People are still living in the past.. I don't think it will be long before LJ makes it 50/50..
Still can't see why people won't accept this. He is SLOW, lost his xtra gear and after every run of 15 yards or greater he takes himself out of the game.People wake up.
I love that you can see some people's handles, and you KNOW what their take will be - because no amount of fact or observation could seemingly change their minds.Once again, I guess you didnt see Priest on the sweep to the left where he got the corner - vintage Priest.

Nor did you see that when the Raiders stuffed the line, while Priest wiggled for a couple yards after contact, LJ went down.

Now, again, LJ is more explosive and when there are big holes has a better chance to take it to the house - but that doesnt make him the better back just yet.

But hey, once again, why let the realities that are in front of you tarnish your preconceived conclusions.

Now, about not having top 10 numbers - I would like to see the 9 RBs, barring injury, that will finish above Priest.
Perhaps you should watch the game before commenting? That's a good start. ;)
Yeah, that always helps your cause - when you call out other people completely ignorant of their previous posts nor what really happened. I watched the game. Maybe you didnt, I dont know? You certainly seem to ignore the yards after contact, LJ's troubles on short yardage, Priests classic leap into the endzone, Priest's nice left sweep run where he beat defenders to the corners as well as Priest's final run of the day where he looked more like the Priest of old.

So, since i not only watched the game, but have watched Priest intently for a number of years now and have detailed what I saw in last nights game specifically to back up my assertions, maybe you want to come back with something more than just your opinion - or just state that what you are saying is no more than opinion, especially in light of facts to the contrary that could be seen by someone who was watching last nights games.

Ball's in your court.
Thanks for the informative post there, I've learned a lot and thank you.
 
So 1440 yards and 16 TDs won't finish top 10?

That runs contrary to EVERYTHING a "bust" implies.

:confused:
problem is, he put those #s up in partial season in years past. then he got knicked and you could go with the backup and get good #s. but the total #s would still be much better than 1440/16and if he doesnt score 16. :X

or if he gets hurt and cant play? he wasnt worth it, cuz in the past, p.holmes carries teams. now he keeps you in games.
So by your definition, Priest can be a "bust" and still finish top 10???
yea. top 10 means nothing. its how the #s come, not just total #s.

unless you play total points
:confused: :confused: :confused: WTF?

So being consistent over 16 games and scoring x points is WORSE than having up and down games and getting the same amount of points???

LMAO at "top 10 means nothing". I thought having top 10 RBs is how you win in Fantasy Football...
player x score 300 points in 1 gameplayer y score 280 points over 16 games

who u going with?

 
No, he didn't look as explosive as he used to but calling him a bust after only two games seems to be jumping the gun.
He looked SLOW and we just started.. Sorry but Priest has lost something.. I wouldn't expect top 10 numbers this year unless he finds some burst. People are still living in the past.. I don't think it will be long before LJ makes it 50/50..
Still can't see why people won't accept this. He is SLOW, lost his xtra gear and after every run of 15 yards or greater he takes himself out of the game.People wake up.
I love that you can see some people's handles, and you KNOW what their take will be - because no amount of fact or observation could seemingly change their minds.Once again, I guess you didnt see Priest on the sweep to the left where he got the corner - vintage Priest.

Nor did you see that when the Raiders stuffed the line, while Priest wiggled for a couple yards after contact, LJ went down.

Now, again, LJ is more explosive and when there are big holes has a better chance to take it to the house - but that doesnt make him the better back just yet.

But hey, once again, why let the realities that are in front of you tarnish your preconceived conclusions.

Now, about not having top 10 numbers - I would like to see the 9 RBs, barring injury, that will finish above Priest.
Perhaps you should watch the game before commenting? That's a good start. ;)
Yeah, that always helps your cause - when you call out other people completely ignorant of their previous posts nor what really happened. I watched the game. Maybe you didnt, I dont know? You certainly seem to ignore the yards after contact, LJ's troubles on short yardage, Priests classic leap into the endzone, Priest's nice left sweep run where he beat defenders to the corners as well as Priest's final run of the day where he looked more like the Priest of old.

So, since i not only watched the game, but have watched Priest intently for a number of years now and have detailed what I saw in last nights game specifically to back up my assertions, maybe you want to come back with something more than just your opinion - or just state that what you are saying is no more than opinion, especially in light of facts to the contrary that could be seen by someone who was watching last nights games.

Ball's in your court.
I'm still waiting. :popcorn: :coffee:
Waiting for what? You add NOTHING to this thread so I don't see what I can add to your silly rant. You say Priest runs like the Priest of old, sorry, but if you really watched the game you wouldn't say insane statements like that. Go get LJ then you won't have to worry when I end up telling you "I've told you so" this season.

 
So 1440 yards and 16 TDs won't finish top 10?

That runs contrary to EVERYTHING a "bust" implies.

:confused:
problem is, he put those #s up in partial season in years past. then he got knicked and you could go with the backup and get good #s. but the total #s would still be much better than 1440/16and if he doesnt score 16. :X

or if he gets hurt and cant play? he wasnt worth it, cuz in the past, p.holmes carries teams. now he keeps you in games.
So by your definition, Priest can be a "bust" and still finish top 10???
yea. top 10 means nothing. its how the #s come, not just total #s.

unless you play total points
:confused: :confused: :confused: WTF?

So being consistent over 16 games and scoring x points is WORSE than having up and down games and getting the same amount of points???

LMAO at "top 10 means nothing". I thought having top 10 RBs is how you win in Fantasy Football...
its consistency v explosivenesshavent u heard?

oops, my fault. walked in on another amateur night

 
So 1440 yards and 16 TDs won't finish top 10?

That runs contrary to EVERYTHING a "bust" implies.

:confused:
problem is, he put those #s up in partial season in years past. then he got knicked and you could go with the backup and get good #s. but the total #s would still be much better than 1440/16and if he doesnt score 16. :X

or if he gets hurt and cant play? he wasnt worth it, cuz in the past, p.holmes carries teams. now he keeps you in games.
So by your definition, Priest can be a "bust" and still finish top 10???
yea. top 10 means nothing. its how the #s come, not just total #s.

unless you play total points
:confused: :confused: :confused: WTF?

So being consistent over 16 games and scoring x points is WORSE than having up and down games and getting the same amount of points???

LMAO at "top 10 means nothing". I thought having top 10 RBs is how you win in Fantasy Football...
player x score 300 points in 1 gameplayer y score 280 points over 16 games

who u going with?
Depends on which game it is. The one where x scores 300, go with him. The other 13 (14, 15 whichever), go with y. I would like to have a chance at winning 95% of my games than to be guaranteed 1 win. Then again, "top 10 means nothing" so I guess I'm the crazy one. :loco:

EDIT:

My team has 3 top 10 RBs on my roster, yours has 0 (since top 10 means nothing). Which team will win more games?

 
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Going into my draft, I was hoping that Priest wasnt going to be there at 6 when I picked. I was afraid of LJ and the injuries. However, from what I have seen, I am happy with the selection. He has been better than McGahee, better that LT2, better than Alexander. People go on and say, "well, its only been 2 weeks, give those guys time". Well, I am 2-0, and Priest has helped that. LJ is not a better rb than Priest Holmes. I doubt he ever will be. That is not a knock. Priest is one of the best.PS...for anyone that plays in a league that gives pts for a reception, that makes Priest that much more valuable. LJ is nowhere near the receiver that Priest is

 
player x score 300 points in 1 game

player y score 280 points over 16 games

who u going with?
Horrible, unrealistic example :thumbdown:
its extreme, but it proves my point
No it doesnt.You need a combination of explosive players AND consistant players to win each week.

Get the right combination and you're gold
it proved my point cuz you didnt answer the ?
The example was extreme and pointlessdo some reading

 
Waiting for what? You add NOTHING to this thread so I don't see what I can add to your silly rant.

You say Priest runs like the Priest of old, sorry, but if you really watched the game you wouldn't say insane statements like that. Go get LJ then you won't have to worry when I end up telling you "I've told you so" this season.
Speaking of contributing absolutely nothing, you are quickly rising up the list of least useful/informative members on the board. I see that avatar and I can just skip the post, fully confident that it contains no substance other than mindlessly pimping Larry Johnson and offering no support, or backpedaling and making excuses for mindlessly pimping Larry Johnson and offering no support.
 
player x score 300 points in 1 game

player y score 280 points over 16 games

who u going with?
Hey, welcome back to reality.Let's go with a more realistic example, okay? How about a player who scores 300 in 8 games vs. a player who scores 280 in 16 games. And let's say my best backup at that position scores a meager 200 over 16 games, because I didn't grab much depth at that position.

Now, if I have the 280 game player, then I score an average of 17.5 points per game.

With the 300/200 combination, I score an average of 37.5 ppg over the first 8 weeks, then 12.5 ppg over the last 8 weeks. Not only does the high score at the beginning virtually GUARANTEE me a playoff spot, but the dropoff between the 280 player and the 200 player is a mere 5 points per game.

You guys talk like when a guy goes down to injury, you can't replace him. You're comparing 280 over 16 to 300 over 8, when in reality you should be comparing 280 over 16 to 300 over 8 PLUS THE POINTS PER GAME THAT YOUR BEST BACKUP WILL SCORE OVER THE FINAL 8!

So yes, a guy who scores 300 in 8 games is DRASTICALLY more valuable than a guy who scores 280 in 16.

 
Boy, last night was an emotional FF rollercoaster. By halftime, I'm thinking OK, this is good, because LJ is showing he's the much more explosive back and may get his chance. Then in the 4th quarter Priest stopped stutter stepping and looked very good. LJ sure got stuffed a few times too. Anybody would vs. T. Washington. I am now leaning to believing that Priest will be the starter, all year, and be very productive, once Roaf gets back. He hit those seams fine, and for speed, I agree with above poster that said he's explosive going from 2nd to 3rd gear. LJ is fast from the blocks. But seeing Priest hit the seam, then beat the linebacker around the sideline was all I needed to see. If I didn't own him, I'd actually be buying Priest right now, for as low as you are ever going to see him. Nobody is going to dump him for trash, but he's attainable.
:goodposting: What a great point. There were points last night I was like Priest looks like he lost a step. But, then in third and fourth he looked as good as ever. That last run to clinch the game was vintage holmes. He needs to do that. I think he will get better. There were times last night , you really could not tell which one was in, I thought the one run was Larry's because he looked quick only to watch Priest get off the pile. He still has it.

 
No, he didn't look as explosive as he used to but calling him a bust after only two games seems to be jumping the gun.
He looked SLOW and we just started.. Sorry but Priest has lost something.. I wouldn't expect top 10 numbers this year unless he finds some burst. People are still living in the past.. I don't think it will be long before LJ makes it 50/50..
Still can't see why people won't accept this. He is SLOW, lost his xtra gear and after every run of 15 yards or greater he takes himself out of the game.People wake up.
Until the third quarter I would agree, but he had more in the second half. I think he still is tentative and only will get better. He was a stud in third and fourth quarters.
 
Waiting for what? You add NOTHING to this thread so I don't see what I can add to your silly rant.

You say Priest runs like the Priest of old, sorry, but if you really watched the game you wouldn't say insane statements like that. Go get LJ then you won't have to worry when I end up telling you "I've told you so" this season.
Speaking of contributing absolutely nothing, you are quickly rising up the list of least useful/informative members on the board. I see that avatar and I can just skip the post, fully confident that it contains no substance other than mindlessly pimping Larry Johnson and offering no support, or backpedaling and making excuses for mindlessly pimping Larry Johnson and offering no support.
#6 RB in Zealots scoring format is good enough for me.
 
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Waiting for what? You add NOTHING to this thread so I don't see what I can add to your silly rant.

You say Priest runs like the Priest of old, sorry, but if you really watched the game you wouldn't say insane statements like that. Go get LJ then you won't have to worry when I end up telling you "I've told you so" this season.
Speaking of contributing absolutely nothing, you are quickly rising up the list of least useful/informative members on the board. I see that avatar and I can just skip the post, fully confident that it contains no substance other than mindlessly pimping Larry Johnson and offering no support, or backpedaling and making excuses for mindlessly pimping Larry Johnson and offering no support.
#6 RB in Zealots scoring format is good enough for me.
It's two games. Are you high on Frisman Jackson, too?
 
Waiting for what? You add NOTHING to this thread so I don't see what I can add to your silly rant.

You say Priest runs like the Priest of old, sorry, but if you really watched the game you wouldn't say insane statements like that. Go get LJ then you won't have to worry when I end up telling you "I've told you so" this season.
Speaking of contributing absolutely nothing, you are quickly rising up the list of least useful/informative members on the board. I see that avatar and I can just skip the post, fully confident that it contains no substance other than mindlessly pimping Larry Johnson and offering no support, or backpedaling and making excuses for mindlessly pimping Larry Johnson and offering no support.
#6 RB in Zealots scoring format is good enough for me.
It's two games. Are you high on Frisman Jackson, too?
W/e man if it floats your boat to compare LJ to Frisman Jackson so be it. LJ didn't play bad last night and it is abundantly clear that he will get his shots in each game and has the talent to put up good flex/#2 numbers for me. If Priest goes down this is the number one guy to have period.
 
W/e man if it floats your boat to compare LJ to Frisman Jackson so be it. LJ didn't play bad last night and it is abundantly clear that he will get his shots in each game and has the talent to put up good flex/#2 numbers for me. If Priest goes down this is the number one guy to have period.
I agree 100%.*IF* Priest goes down, this is the number one guy to have, period.

 
W/e man if it floats your boat to compare LJ to Frisman Jackson so be it. LJ didn't play bad last night and it is abundantly clear that he will get his shots in each game and has the talent to put up good flex/#2 numbers for me. If Priest goes down this is the number one guy to have period.
I agree 100%.*IF* Priest goes down, this is the number one guy to have, period.
I don't think anyone here is denying that point.
 
Let's try this one more time . . .

Priest could get the same workload he always has (300-320 carries) with Johnson getting the leftovers, which in KC could still be 150 carries because they run so much.

The KC line has been banged up and the Chiefs have not had many goal line opportunities yet.

Holmes could still get 20 TD and Johnson could get 10 TD and they STILL would have fewer TD then they did last year when they had 35 TD from the RB spot.

Holmes has had 183 yards and 2 TD so far . . . that's on pace for almost 1500 yards and 16 TD and that's assuming he doesn't do any better.

He's also on pace for 360 touches REGARDLESS OF WHAT JOHNSON HAS DONE SO FAR. IMO, if Holmes can get anywhere near 360 touches (admittedly unlikely due to his ability to get nicked up), I still think he could be the #1 RB.
Exactly. I think we all could see it coming. Priest isn't completely done with yet. He has plenty of value, and still could be a #1 RB on any fantasy team. Barring injury, he'll finish in the top 10 easily. He's put up good numbers even WITH LJ there. The KC offense will get many many opportunities to score, so I wouldn't worry too much about it.
 
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LJ is not a better rb than Priest Holmes.
Have you watched either of the Chiefs games this year? :confused: Right now, LJ is CLEARLY the better back. As the season goes on, you will see the ratio of carries swing LJ's way, as even Vermeil will have to admit to himself the LJ is the better back(which he probably already knows, but feels he has to show his loyalty to Priest)

LJ is nowhere near the receiver that Priest is
On what are you basing this? Last year, LJ caught more passes, for more yards and averaged more yards per reception, with less playing time than Holmes.
 
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LJ is not a better rb than Priest Holmes.
Have you watched either of the Chiefs games this year? :confused: Right now, LJ is CLEARLY the better back. As the season goes on, you will see the ratio of carries swing LJ's way, as even Vermeil will have to admit to himself the LJ is the better back(which he probably already knows, but feels he has to show his loyalty to Priest)
:lmao: That was fantastic.

You're entire argument is, "Nuh-uh! LJ is better! Nuh-uh!"

Spare us.

 
Give LJ Priests amount of carries and we will see how his YPC falls
Well, not only that...just watching the game, I just wasn't impressed. Yes, LJ is great with a huge hole...possibly a little better than Holmes. But those short runs are the ones that really matter...and LJ doesn't go anywhere when hit...and Holmes always gets the 2 or three yards the Chiefs really need to keep the drive going.Hey, I could be wrong (I'll freely admit it), but, it's just a different opinion to throw into the mix while others throw 5-year old-esque tantrums.

 
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LJ is not a better rb than Priest Holmes.
Have you watched either of the Chiefs games this year? :confused: Right now, LJ is CLEARLY the better back. As the season goes on, you will see the ratio of carries swing LJ's way, as even Vermeil will have to admit to himself the LJ is the better back(which he probably already knows, but feels he has to show his loyalty to Priest)
:lmao: That was fantastic.

You're entire argument is, "Nuh-uh! LJ is better! Nuh-uh!"

Spare us.
What did you want, some stats? OKIn 2004, LJ averaged 4.8 YPC, Holmes 4.6. Also, like i edited into my previous post, LJ caught more passes, for more yards and more yards per catch in less playing time than Holmes.

2005, LJ is averaging 8.4 YPC, and Holmes is at 3.9.

What could you back up your argument with supporting Holmes is better than LJ?

 
Give LJ Priests amount of carries and we will see how his YPC falls
Well, not only that...just watching the game, I just wasn't impressed. Yes, LJ is great with a huge hole...possibly a little better than Holmes. But those short runs are the ones that really matter...and LJ doesn't go anywhere when hit...and Holmes always gets the 2 or three yards the Chiefs really need to keep the drive going.Hey, I could be wrong (I'll freely admit it), but, it's just a different opinion to throw into the mix while others throw 5-year old-esque tantrums.
What did Holmes do in that game that impressed you more than LJ? :confused:
 

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