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Proper Punishment Here? (1 Viewer)

Absolutely offensive.  And a much more heinous crime committed by an actual adult
Agreed.  that said extreme examples, examples well known as egregious abuses do not, in my eyes, make a case for equal examples ever after.  That would be compounding a mistake.  I think your argument does better without this aside.  You were doing just fine without this 'tangent".

 
huh so i just saw this it happened in my fair city at south division high school that is on the near south side of milwaukee in an area that used to be chock full of polish and german immigrants in fact my grandfather when he first came over on a boat from germany lived there in a little milwaukee bungalo its all row housing stacked one on top of the other and now it has transitioned from polish and german to latin american although the parks still have polish names in the area and the neighborhood is really transitional and has higher than average crime rates milwaukee public schools mps are really in rough shape and this is sadly not uncommon type crap that they have to deal with although not to that extent anyhow just a little background flava for your ear from the old swcer bromigos take that to the bank 

 
What's nuts is living in a society where the rights of the victim are superseded by the rehabilitation of the criminal. I blame Schafer and the insertion of the state into the victim-criminal relationship as a source of possible compensation. Ultimately, I believe it's a function of the adversarial system we operate under, instead of reversion back to an inquisitorial system.
I live in a state where there is both a statute and a provision in the state's constitution protecting the rights of a victim.  Further, given the statutory sentencing ranges,rehabilitation is also very much not a priority in this state.  Frankly, I'd postulate that my state may actually be the harshest in the country for criminal justice. 

That said, it is incredibly unlikely that a 16 year old kid would get 3-5 years of prison time for punching his teacher (again, assuming the victim did not sustain substantial or permanent disfigurement).  

 
Yes, this is highly relevant, thanks for bringing race into this... Some scumbag that rapes a chick in Stanford and some dude that pummels his teacher in Wisconsin absolutely belong in the same discussion. 

You heard about this terrorist attack in Spain? I'm not a huge fan of Lev Bell at 1.1, but I get it. 

 
Yes, this is highly relevant, thanks for bringing race into this... Some scumbag that rapes a chick in Stanford and some dude that pummels his teacher in Wisconsin absolutely belong in the same discussion. 

You heard about this terrorist attack in Spain? I'm not a huge fan of Lev Bell at 1.1, but I get it. 
I thought we were done discussing this issue with each other.  Make up your mind already

 
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Agreed.  that said extreme examples, examples well known as egregious abuses do not, in my eyes, make a case for equal examples ever after.  That would be compounding a mistake.  I think your argument does better without this aside.  You were doing just fine without this 'tangent".
You are probably correct.  I use it mostly for the case that the judge makes that prison would cause irreparable harm to our friendly rapist 

 
We'll prove this statement incorrect pretty quickly.

@Peak

What percentage of kids in her school are there for beating the #### out of their teachers? I'd venture to say it is somewhere around 0%. So no, this is a wildly incorrect sweeping generalization. 
Actually its closer to 40% of her student population ranging from K-12.  She oversees the k-6 grades in her school. She does interact with the older grades, but often tells me the younger kids are worse than the older kids when it comes to physical altercations. 

 

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