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Interesting in that what Tyreek Hill did (throwing his pregnant girlfriend down a flight of stairs) was not found as objectionable by NFL fans as many today now feel about Kaep.

Wonder if Joe Mixon signed with the Jets if the same fans you know on Facebook, would take a similar stand and not follow the team? I would hope so for consistency. It would be unjust to me if Mixon ends up on a 2017 roster, while Kaep sits idle at home, blackballed by NFL owners.
1. They already follow a team that has had abusers and violent criminals, so obviously that's not an issue.

2. And, if Kaep were any good, they'd welcome him in a half a heart beat.  But he sucks, so it's easy to posture as if they care.

 
They're probably just looking at CK as a poor man's Geno Smith.
Ouch. That's an insult to both Geno and Kaep, which says a lot considering where they are each starting. 

It's also true. :coffee:

In all honestly, I believe Kaep has a far higher ceiling than Geno... Kaep doesn't seem to be a dumb guy and as such, could find a way to translate his skill set in some way. In fact, as a running QB, he's an ideal backup in many ways.  Geno seriously impresses upon me that he is one of the least smart folks out there, and for a QB, one with limited physical talent to begin with, that's notta good thing.

 
All I know is a bunch of my idiot Jets fan (yes, redundant on so many levels) friends are all on facebook how they won't follow the team if Kaep joins.  Goin' all ranting on how awful a person he is.

Didn't get any real answers to my question of why THIS straw broke the camels back, but they are fine with wife/girlfriend abuses, deadbeat dads, gang members with violent history.  

I mean, seriously people need to get some context.
The one time I brought up the situation on Facebook was exactly due to the fact of the other things people don't seem to take issue with.  All of the angry responses I got were the same, and numerous people seem to think that domestic violence with athletes is a non-issue.

 
The one time I brought up the situation on Facebook was exactly due to the fact of the other things people don't seem to take issue with.  All of the angry responses I got were the same, and numerous people seem to think that domestic violence with athletes is a non-issue.
My fav are the sanctimonious responses to my FB reply such as "hell no, if the Jets sign anyone like that I'll do the same thing!" 

Um... dude, you've rooted for them our entire lives. A bit too late to put that Genie back in the bottle.  Just accept that it's easy to bluster with faux patriotism and feel like both a real man and a real 'merican, when the underlying truth is you are quite possibly/likely neither. 

 
Is Squistion getting paid per occcurence by that reporter every time he types his name or something?
I am outraged and offended by the suggestion that I am getting paid every time I mention the football sportswriter Cian Fahey or the name Cian Fahey. I have followed Cian Fahey work since the days Cian Fahey was a member of the FBG's staff. Since then I have followed Cian Fahey's on his Pre Snap Reads website, plus Cian Fahey's twitter account, which he calls, not surprisingly, Cian Fahey. https://twitter.com/search?q=cian fahey&src=typd. 

Oh, and in case anyone is wondering, Cian Fahey, being the good Irish lad, probably pronounces his first name KEE-an, although I haven't been able to verify that with Cian Fahey. He was asked once on Twitter and Cian Fahey's response was:

Cian Fahey‏Verified @Cianaf 10:07 AM - 14 Dec 2016

Samantha.

Big Screen‏ @bluehairspecial 10:06 AM - 14 Dec 2016

@Cianaf I've followed you for long enough that this is a bit embarrassing to ask but how do you pronounce you first name? CEE-in?



 
 
 



 
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I am outraged and offended by the suggestion that I am getting paid every time I mention the football sportswriter Cian Fahey or the name Cian Fahey. I have followed Cian Fahey work since the days Cian Fahey was a member of the FBG's staff. Since then I have followed Cian Fahey's on his Pre Snap Reads website, plus Cian Fahey's twitter account, which he calls, not surprisingly, Cian Fahey. https://twitter.com/search?q=cian fahey&src=typd. 

Oh, and in case anyone is wondering, Cian Fahey, being the good Irish lad, probably pronounces his first name KEE-an, although I haven't been able to verify that with Cian Fahey. He was asked once on Twitter and Cian Fahey's response was:

Cian Fahey‏Verified @Cianaf 10:07 AM - 14 Dec 2016

Samantha.


 
 
 
Outraged and offended? Dude, relax for one day in your life.

 
I am outraged and offended by the suggestion that I am getting paid every time I mention the football sportswriter Cian Fahey or the name Cian Fahey. I have followed Cian Fahey work since the days Cian Fahey was a member of the FBG's staff. Since then I have followed Cian Fahey's on his Pre Snap Reads website, plus Cian Fahey's twitter account, which he calls, not surprisingly, Cian Fahey. https://twitter.com/search?q=cian fahey&src=typd. 

Oh, and in case anyone is wondering, Cian Fahey, being the good Irish lad, probably pronounces his first name KEE-an, although I haven't been able to verify that with Cian Fahey. He was asked once on Twitter and Cian Fahey's response was:

Cian Fahey‏Verified @Cianaf 10:07 AM - 14 Dec 2016

Samantha.


 
 
 
I don't trust a guy who never held a football as a kid and was more familiar most likely with a soccer ball . If he held a ball it was a rugby ball. Maybe some insight into Connor McGregor or Guinness .

 
Sarcasm, dude. I was joking, but once again you missed it. And you always claim to have a sense of humor but stuff like this is always over your head.
The guy has a great sense of humor . Knock it off with all the personal attacks. A great sense of humor. Cripes 

 
I don't trust a guy who never held a football as a kid and was more familiar most likely with a soccer ball . If he held a ball it was a rugby ball. Maybe some insight into Connor McGregor or Guinness .
That is a specious argument and completely irrelevant.

There is no logical reason why someone who grew up in a soccer environment can not be a good football analyst or as good of an analyst as some one who grew following football here. In fact, you could argue that someone foreign born who became a football fan later in life might be a better analyst as they do not bring to the table biases and preconceptions regarding the game that most American's have (perhaps some that they are not even conscious of).

 
you could argue that someone foreign born who became a football fan later in life might be a better analyst as they do not bring to the table biases and preconceptions regarding the game that most American's have (perhaps some that they are not even conscious of).
This is total BS . I'll be honest I look at a guy funny if he never played a snap in anger even at the HS level.I don't think you can truly grasp the game without playing it at some level never mind a Euro . Now an American raised in Europe is different . But a born & bread Irish guy doesn't fully grasp the concept .

 
This is our President people, this is not from The Onion:

http://www.tmz.com/2017/03/20/donald-trump-blasts-colin-kaepernick/

Donald Trump Takes Shot at Colin Kaepernick

Colin Kaepernick is back in Donald Trump's crosshairs -- the President of the United States just mocked the QB for last season's national anthem protest. 

Trump referenced a report that NFL teams are refusing to pick up Kaepernick because owners are afraid of a Twitter backlash from Trump himself. 

Trump didn't exactly refute the report. Instead he fired up the Kentucky crowd by saying people in the Bluegrass State don't like it when people don't stand for the anthem. 

The crowd loved it. 

Meanwhile, Kaepernick just helped secure an entire airplane to send food and supplies to people in need in Somalia. 

 
11 minutes ago, squistion said:

Meanwhile, Kaepernick just helped secure an entire airplane to send food and supplies
Who cares, he can't play. We've been donating there for well over 2 decades. Heck the battle of Mogadishu was almost 25 year ago.
Yes, indeed, who cares about his helping the Somalians with food and water?

Hell Toupee is the frontrunner for the FBG's Most Compassionate Conservative award for 2017. :thumbup:

 
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Tim Johnsonsmithstin @ TimJohnsonsmithstin 12m12 minutes ago

This weird dude with pigeon posts keeps tweeting at me and retweeting my tweets

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
The competition for the next signing is basically: Cutler, Fitzpatrick, Josh McCown, Keenum, Shaun Hill, Gabbert, McGloin, Sanchez, Orlovsky, Kellen Moore, Ponder, Nassib, Yates, Austin Davis. - eta - Also, Chase Daniel.
The other half of the McCown boys has signed with the Jets.

Cutler also visiting NYJ.

 
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Colin Kaepernick's biggest problem? Performance, not politics

Don't overthink why Colin Kaepernick is still a free agent. Simply put, years have passed since he was an effective quarterback. He is 29 years old, has succeeded only in an unsustainable scheme and is part of a well-populated group of former starters who also remained available as the week began.

Filmmaker Spike Lee has raised the issue of whether social and cultural forces are at work here, calling it "fishy" that Kaepernick is unsigned. The implication, of course, is that teams are avoiding Kaepernick because of his decision to kneel last yearduring the national anthem.

To blame Kaepernick's unemployment on his protest is to misread the way NFL teams make personnel decisions.

While it would be naïve to think every owner and general manager approved of Kaepernick's protest, or that it never influenced their perception of him, it's important to understand priorities. Teams are swayed first by a player's potential (or lack thereof) to help them win. Protest or not, Kaepernick would be under contract now if he had played demonstrably better in recent years.

Let's look closer at where Kaepernick is as a quarterback and why that has left him sitting in a group that also includes fellow free agents Jay Cutler, Josh McCown, Ryan Fitzpatrick and Robert Griffin III.

Colin Kaepernick's play has declined since Jim Harbaugh left the 49ers, and the quarterback will likely take a hefty pay cut wherever he signs next. Brett Carlsen/Getty Images

Kaepernick's greatest NFL successes came as part of the San Francisco 49ers' read-option scheme from 2012-14. In those three years, he rushed for 1,578 yards -- more than any quarterback other than Russell Wilson and Cam Newton. His success -- he threw more than twice as many touchdown passes (50) as interceptions (21) -- helped him compile the eighth-best Total Quarterback Rating in the NFL (70.2) over that period.

Even then, Kaepernick was one of the league's least-accurate quarterbacks. His 60.1 completion percentage ranked No. 23 in the NFL, and his percentage of off-target throws -- judged on video by ESPN Stats & Information -- ranked No. 18 (17.6 percent).

Those issues intensified in 2015 and 2016 amid the 49ers' coaching turmoil and talent drain. Since the start of the 2015 season, Kaepernick ranks last in the NFL among 35 qualified passers in off-target percentage (22.6). His completion percentage ranks No. 32 at 59.1. He still was one of the NFL's most productive rushing quarterbacks, ranking No. 4 in total yardage over those years, but it didn't mitigate his passing deterioration.

There is no more important attribute for a quarterback than accuracy, especially for a free agent who is shopping himself to teams with various schemes. In the long term, a quarterback's running ability is considered a complementary skill and one that historically fades with age or because of injuries. Scrambling ability and arm strength are secondary to whether you can hit the target.

All passers miss throws, but Kaepernick over the past two seasons has done it as much or as more as anyone. It's hardly surprising that teams didn't rush to sign him in the opening days of free agency. Realistically, he's vying for the kind of veteran backup job that often doesn't get filled until after the draft or later. That deal is going to be worth a fraction of the $14 million he earned last season.

The concerns of Lee and others are not completely unfounded. There is precedent for NFL teams passing over players who engage in social activism. The sudden end to punter Chris Kluwe's career in 2013, a year after he waded into the issue of marriage equality, comes to mind.

But fair or not, those decisions are made on a sliding scale. The better player you are, the less teams will heed their off-field concerns. Kluwe hadn't kicked well, compared to the rest of the league, in 2012. Kaepernick has been one of the league's least accurate quarterbacks for two years.

When given a choice between players with relatively equal projections in terms of production, teams are likely to choose the one who brings what they perceive to be less controversy. What happens on the field is always the most important factor. So it goes.

 
Here’s the real reason Colin Kaepernick hasn’t been signed

Eleven days after the start of NFL free agency, quarterback Colin Kaepernick remains unsigned and people are angry about it.

Spike Lee believes the fact that Kaepernick, who has played for the 49ers since 2011, is unsigned “smells mad fishy.” There are more than a few people who believe Kaepernick’s lack of a contract is a grand NFL conspiracy — Kaepernick is being blackballed for his National Anthem protests last season.

That’s misplaced energy.

There’s no grand conspiracy against Kaepernick. He’s just a bad quarterback, and bad quarterbacks don’t get breaks.

This isn’t to say that Kaepernick’s protests couldn’t play a role in his unemployment — there are certainly NFL teams that carry vitriol toward him. (One executive told Bleacher Report’s Mike Freeman that Kaepernick was “an embarrassment to football” at the Combine.) But that vitriol is also misplaced energy.

Any front-office conversation about Kaepernick must begin with his poor play — he showed some flashes of the player he once was last year, but nowhere near enough to override all the bad film he’s amassed in the last two seasons.

NFL teams will overlook or justify just about anything for a player with good tape. If Kaepernick were a solid, reliable quarterback, there’d be multiple NFL teams looking to sign him and spin his protests as part of his track record of positive activism.

It’d be an easy sell. Kaepernick has done nothing but good since he started his protests. The fact that people are offended by him is their problem — he’s broken no law in his efforts to bring awareness to serious issues. Since the protests started, Kaepernick might have said things that people disagree with, but his actions speak louder — a few days ago he helped secure a plane to take 60 tons of food to famished Somalia, and he’s donated $100,000 a month to organizations working in oppressed communities as part of his $1 million pledge. He’s also funding a “Know Your Rights” campaign for young people to “raise awareness on higher education, self-empowerment, and instruction to properly interact with law enforcement in various scenarios.”

That’s a lot of good that any sane person can get behind.

The 49ers certainly had no problem backing Kaepernick’s causes last year — the team matched the quarterback’s $1 million pledge.

But right now Kaepernick is Tim Tebow . Both men should be lauded for their activism, even if you don’t agree with the impetus for that activism, and both are bad quarterbacks who won playoff games in this decade.

Kaepernick is hardly the only quarterback who started an NFL game last year who doesn’t have a job. Jay Cutler, who went 51-51 as the quarterback of the Bears, is available, as is Robert Griffin, a 2012 Pro Bowler. Ryan Fitzpatrick doesn’t have a contract for next season, nor does Case Keenum or Blaine Gabbert (the latter started ahead of Kaepernick in San Francisco last year).

Teams could also sign Chase Daniel or Christian Ponder if they’re looking for a viable NFL backup quarterback.

Teams don’t lack quarterback options in free agency, and right now there are certainly better quarterbacks to be signed than Kaepernick. It’s as simple as that.

The places where Kaepernick could go are dwindling by the day, as well, and we haven’t even factored in the 15-plus quarterbacks who could be drafted onto rosters at the end of April.

If Kaepernick were a viable NFL starting quarterback we might be able to cite his protests and the negative reaction to them as a reason he’s currently unsigned, but right now, it’s a straw man argument obscuring the fact that there’s a robust list of available quarterbacks who are objectively better than Kaepernick.

Frankly, it’s hard to imagine that the issue of Kaepernick’s off-field “baggage” has come up in any serious way with teams — there’s not exactly a line of franchises looking to add a quarterback who was 30th in the league in defense-adjusted yards above replacement last year and 35th the year before that.

If there’s suddenly a bunch of empty roster spots and not enough quarterbacks to fill them and Kaepernick still isn’t getting calls, then we can discuss him being blackballed. Until then, he’s just a quarterback who can’t ball.

 
When given a choice between players with relatively equal projections in terms of production, teams are likely to choose the one who brings what they perceive to be less controversy. What happens on the field is always the most important factor. So it goes.


Kaepernick participated in the Love Army effort to fly food to the famine in Somalia.
Fyi that link isn't functioning but this one should. I only mention that because I can't help notice that CK is still rockin' the :fro: - I know, I'm sure this is perceived badly but in real life, in the work force, really long hair is not well received. Teams want a representative for the franchise. Get a haircut, Colin, it just might help a little. This would be a good way for him to show he means it.

- eta - It's extremely admirable what he has done in terms of charity and this trip to Somalia.

 
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If a NFL team thinks a guy can help them win without being a distraction and causing "noise" around the team they will sign him. If not they won`t.  Plain and simple.  CK can play as a lower tier starter and for sure as a backup but teams ask if it is worth it?  As you are seeing up to now the answer is no.  

A couple of injuries and things can change fast.

 
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Fyi that link isn't functioning but this one should. I only mention that because I can't help notice that CK is still rockin' the :fro: - I know, I'm sure this is perceived badly but in real life, in the work force, really long hair is not well received. Teams want a representative for the franchise. Get a haircut, Colin, it just might help a little. This would be a good way for him to show he means it.

- eta - It's extremely admirable what he has done in terms of charity and this trip to Somalia.
Dude, you want me to run photos of NFL players and what they look like without the helmets, pads, not in uniform, etc., to show you the NFL does not always represent the real life work force?

 
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Dude, you want me to run photos of NFL players and what they look like without the helmets, pads, not in uniform, etc., to show you the NFL does not represent the real life work force?
You? No, you don't have to.

It's an interesting question though - any hippie/fro cuts among starters. Face of the franchise is typically the QB. Don't get upset at me. Take a look around the league. Closest I can think of is Whitehurst and for a while Mettenberger.

 
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You? No, you don't have to.

It's an interesting question though - any hippie/fro cuts among starters. Face of the franchise is typically the QB. Don't get upset at me. Take a look around the league. Closest I can think of is Whitehurst and for a while Mettenberger.
Yeah, tell me all about it with Luck and Fitzpatrick looking like Civil War generals. How like the  traditional workforce of 2016/2017 they appear:

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/18/7759175/andrew-luck-civil-war-general-letter-patriots-colts

https://www.google.com/search?q=ryan+fitzpatrick+civil+war&client=gmail&rls=aso&tbm=isch&imgil=PiXKXwiV2CglxM%3A%3Bz1jmGB0ZdQ9AVM%3Bhttps%253A%252F%252Ftwitter.com%252Fsbnation%252Fstatus%252F520418035480268801&source=iu&pf=m&fir=PiXKXwiV2CglxM%3A%2Cz1jmGB0ZdQ9AVM%2C_&usg=__c0gdlQTvjyCFf1blXlu8TVMjjyM%3D&biw=1280&bih=641&ved=0ahUKEwi1hq3ExObSAhUB6yYKHdhYDm4QyjcIKg&ei=243QWPWsAYHWmwHYsbnwBg#imgrc=PiXKXwiV2CglxM:&spf=192

(psst...maybe they can get away with it because they are white).

 
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I hope it isn't even about performance.  The ? brought his own politics into a game and disrespected the symbol of our nation, and in doing so he pissed off a lot of paying customers.  The Niners should have cut his ### back in September.

 
I hope it isn't even about performance.  The ? brought his own politics into a game and disrespected the symbol of our nation, and in doing so he pissed off a lot of paying customers.  The Niners should have cut his ### back in September.
Squissy won't like this. He's turned a blind eye to the facts about kaepernik

 
I hope it isn't even about performance.  The ? brought his own politics into a game and disrespected the symbol of our nation, and in doing so he pissed off a lot of paying customers.  The Niners should have cut his ### back in September.
Um, they couldn't because of that guaranteed salary thingee that some people say didn't exist - a guaranteed salary for injury is still a guaranteed salary, if he couldn't have passed the physical that doesn't make it any less guaranteed:

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/04/the-facts-about-colin-kaepernicks-upcoming-free-agency-he-and-the-49ers-set-this-in-motion-months-ago/

The facts about Colin Kaepernick’s upcoming free agency: He and the 49ers set this in motion months ago [...]

Second thing to remember: The 49ers only kept Kaepernick on the roster last season because the contract was guaranteed for injury, he had multiple surgeries in the winter of 2015/2016 and therefore he would not have passed a physical on the annual April 1 trigger date for his contract.

 
Um, they couldn't because of that guaranteed salary thingee that some people say didn't exist - a guaranteed salary for injury is still a guaranteed salary, if he couldn't have passed the physical that doesn't make it any less guaranteed:

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/04/the-facts-about-colin-kaepernicks-upcoming-free-agency-he-and-the-49ers-set-this-in-motion-months-ago/

The facts about Colin Kaepernick’s upcoming free agency: He and the 49ers set this in motion months ago [...]

Second thing to remember: The 49ers only kept Kaepernick on the roster last season because the contract was guaranteed for injury, he had multiple surgeries in the winter of 2015/2016 and therefore he would not have passed a physical on the annual April 1 trigger date for his contract.
So the 49ers knew he sucks but couldn't cut him due to his contract.

 
Just go away Squistion. Stop embarrassing yourself, take a few deep breaths, & go drop your nonsense where it might be appreciated.

Maybe take a look at pigeonguys.com

 
Is it possible for someone to be this dense? 

How does a year to year agreement sound? Being a barista at Starbucks, you could think differently, but that isn't a vote of confidence, & not just the NFL - everywhere.

If my employer told me "hey FC, you're doing great, but we need to reevaluate your employment every year for the next 7 years," I'd start looking for a new job. 

It wouldn't be too hard either, probably because I'm white, amirite?

Please go away.

 
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The only 2 guys defending Kaepernik in this thread is squistion & either his alias or buttboy dear scooter. What a bunch of nonsense 

 
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Yeah, tell me all about it with Luck and Fitzpatrick looking like Civil War generals. How like the  traditional workforce of 2016/2017 they appear:

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/18/7759175/andrew-luck-civil-war-general-letter-patriots-colts

(psst...maybe they can get away with it because they are white).
Ok I'll give you Fitz even if we disregard that he doesn't have long hair - but he is currently a free agent.

Luck has a beard, a beard isn't automatically hippie/bohemian. He also does not have long hair. Also a top-5 franchise QB, the guy's not exactly doing interviews.

 
Ok I'll give you Fitz even if we disregard that he doesn't have long hair - but he is currently a free agent.

Luck has a beard, a beard isn't automatically hippie/bohemian. He also does not have long hair. Also a top-5 franchise QB, the guy's not exactly doing interviews.
Fitz looked that way in Houston, his first year with the Jets and last year after he resigned.

Dude, your point was the QB is the "face of the franchise" - you want some more mock photos of Luck as a civil war soldier who never shaved? (which he refuses to do during the season). He usually doesn't look like he bathes either.

If looks and image but not performance was what was really important, Luck would be on the bench and probably Jimmy Clausen, Colt McCoy or Brady Quinn would be starting in his place. Luck and Fitzpatrick, among others, can get away with looking however they want to look provided they perform on the field. The "he looks like a hippie/bohemian" is a rationalization and is ignored provided they can deliver on game day.

 
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