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If he doesn't know where the ball is going, how will they know?Probably good for the opposing defense fantasy too.
If he doesn't know where the ball is going, how will they know?Probably good for the opposing defense fantasy too.
100%.53.8, not 58. However, if he’s on the field he will be very good in fantasy because of his legs.RSP report from Waldman:
Elevator Pitch: Imagine a quarterback who is as fast as Justin Fields, but 17 pounds heavier, has a vertical explosion of 40 inches and has a more nuanced understanding of how to manipulate coverage despite playing 12 fewer games in college. What about a passer with arm talent on par with Josh Allen but with more consistent pocket management and smarter pass placement than Allen had in college? Until Richardson came along, you wouldn’t have dared.
And if that’s not enough, consider that Richardson is one of the most impressive learners on and off the field that his quarterback coach Will Hewlett has seen—including Hewlett’s recent success story, Brock Purdy. The best way to visualize Richardson’s comparison spectrum isn’t a straight line but that of a pyramid with Richardson the top point and the other players’ feeding into his game from either side of the spectrum. He’s a unique amalgamation of player styles.
For those of you who can’t get past the 58 percent completion rate, interceptions, and untimely errors, consider that the nature of Richardson’s errors are more akin to problems that we saw with the likes of Matthew Stafford, Patrick Mahomes, Andrew Luck, and Ben Roethlisberger. If they were the type of errors linked to Drew Lock, Zach Wilson, and Baker Mayfield, there would be reason for concern.
Unfortunately in this day and age, highly drafted QBs don’t tend to sit long if at all. Let’s say Indy drafts Richardson - Minshew may start initially but unless he lights it up, there will be calls for Richardson sooner rather than later.If a team has the time to mold and have him red-shirt - not back-up, but a true 3rd QB for a season and then begin to take the training wheels off in year 2, could have a talent that is Culepepper, Newton, Allen, Rothlesberger - esque
Plus the thing he lacks is game reps. Sitting him on the bench a couple years isn't going to help his accuracy.Unfortunately in this day and age, highly drafted QBs don’t tend to sit long if at all. Let’s say Indy drafts Richardson - Minshew may start initially but unless he lights it up, there will be calls for Richardson sooner rather than later.If a team has the time to mold and have him red-shirt - not back-up, but a true 3rd QB for a season and then begin to take the training wheels off in year 2, could have a talent that is Culepepper, Newton, Allen, Rothlesberger - esque
Seattle at 5 has the depth and coaching to sit him for a year, maybe two. Ideal scenario for AR to develope. Coaching does help accuracy, it's simply feet/balance issues.Plus the thing he lacks is game reps. Sitting him on the bench a couple years isn't going to help his accuracy.Unfortunately in this day and age, highly drafted QBs don’t tend to sit long if at all. Let’s say Indy drafts Richardson - Minshew may start initially but unless he lights it up, there will be calls for Richardson sooner rather than later.If a team has the time to mold and have him red-shirt - not back-up, but a true 3rd QB for a season and then begin to take the training wheels off in year 2, could have a talent that is Culepepper, Newton, Allen, Rothlesberger - esque
Seattle should be going EDGE/DL at 5. Also , with Pete's age I dont see him voting for a project QB.Seattle at 5 has the depth and coaching to sit him for a year, maybe two. Ideal scenario for AR to develope. Coaching does help accuracy, it's simply feet/balance issues.Plus the thing he lacks is game reps. Sitting him on the bench a couple years isn't going to help his accuracy.Unfortunately in this day and age, highly drafted QBs don’t tend to sit long if at all. Let’s say Indy drafts Richardson - Minshew may start initially but unless he lights it up, there will be calls for Richardson sooner rather than later.If a team has the time to mold and have him red-shirt - not back-up, but a true 3rd QB for a season and then begin to take the training wheels off in year 2, could have a talent that is Culepepper, Newton, Allen, Rothlesberger - esque
a true DL/edge difference maker at 5 doesn't exist in this draft. Unicorn QB's can tilt the field.Seattle should be going EDGE/DL at 5. Also , with Pete's age I dont see him voting for a project QB.Seattle at 5 has the depth and coaching to sit him for a year, maybe two. Ideal scenario for AR to develope. Coaching does help accuracy, it's simply feet/balance issues.Plus the thing he lacks is game reps. Sitting him on the bench a couple years isn't going to help his accuracy.Unfortunately in this day and age, highly drafted QBs don’t tend to sit long if at all. Let’s say Indy drafts Richardson - Minshew may start initially but unless he lights it up, there will be calls for Richardson sooner rather than later.If a team has the time to mold and have him red-shirt - not back-up, but a true 3rd QB for a season and then begin to take the training wheels off in year 2, could have a talent that is Culepepper, Newton, Allen, Rothlesberger - esque
If Will Anderson is gone, and they don't want Carter, there is no DL worth passing on a prudential franchise QB. The only other blue chip is Bijan.Seattle should be going EDGE/DL at 5. Also , with Pete's age I dont see him voting for a project QB.
Signing Geno was their stopgap move. The other option here is to trade back which I can imagine JS is dreaming about every day.If Will Anderson is gone, and they don't want Carter, there is no DL worth passing on a prudential franchise QB. The only other blue chip is Bijan.Seattle should be going EDGE/DL at 5. Also , with Pete's age I dont see him voting for a project QB.
Has Pete Carroll told anyone he was on the verge of retirement/death, or is this an idea someone came up with, that sounds reasonable to people? I get it, he's old, but these QBs tend to hit within a year or two, that's not really long to wait.
And stopgap vet QBs don't really seem to be the quickest way to another ring. That's what Bob Irsay told me.
They can all flail. Tyree Wilson is safer? I assume you don't want to take Carter, so who's the guy?Risking 1.05 on a project who could flail out isn't good for the career or legacy whichever way you interpret Pete's future
Why wouldn't Seattle take Carter? If I had to pick the team that wouldn't pass on him it would be Seattle. Seems like a perfect fit for Pete.They can all flail. Tyree Wilson is safer? I assume you don't want to take Carter, so who's the guy?Risking 1.05 on a project who could flail out isn't good for the career or legacy whichever way you interpret Pete's future
I think every team that passes on him is crazy.Why wouldn't Seattle take Carter? If I had to pick the team that wouldn't pass on him it would be Seattle. Seems like a perfect fit for Pete
bird in the hand....and with the 2024 # for Geno around 31.2mill - having a plan in place already would be ideal over a potential next year draft scenario. They can find an edge or DT at 20, 37, or 52.If Richardson is as much in demand as this thread suggests, then the price for #5 could be high. The Russ trade would be evergreen and just keep on giving.
I'm in on Anderson over Wilson for sure, and agree with Largent that Carter is probably off the board.
Personally I would rather take the benefit of the Richardson hype and trade back. A first next year might put us into the Caleb sweepstakes, especially if Richardson doesn't pan out for the team we trade with.
Seattle at 5 has the depth and coaching to sit him for a year, maybe two. Ideal scenario for AR to develope. Coaching does help accuracy, it's simply feet/balance issues.Plus the thing he lacks is game reps. Sitting him on the bench a couple years isn't going to help his accuracy.Unfortunately in this day and age, highly drafted QBs don’t tend to sit long if at all. Let’s say Indy drafts Richardson - Minshew may start initially but unless he lights it up, there will be calls for Richardson sooner rather than later.If a team has the time to mold and have him red-shirt - not back-up, but a true 3rd QB for a season and then begin to take the training wheels off in year 2, could have a talent that is Culepepper, Newton, Allen, Rothlesberger - esque
I don't see any way Richardson lasts past pick 4 either. I think the real question is what happens if Seattle or Tennessee trades up to 3 and takes him. What does Indy do if Levis is the only QB left on the board?I don’t think he’s getting past the Colts at 4 unless they are really down on him. Steichen did wonders with Hurts and may be the guy that can coach up Richardson as well.
Draft a non QB then call Lamar's mom.I don't see any way Richardson lasts past pick 4 either. I think the real question is what happens if Seattle or Tennessee trades up to 3 and takes him. What does Indy do if Levis is the only QB left on the board?I don’t think he’s getting past the Colts at 4 unless they are really down on him. Steichen did wonders with Hurts and may be the guy that can coach up Richardson as well.
NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Florida QB Anthony Richardson met with the Colts.
It appears more and more likely that the Colts will indeed target a quarterback with the No. 4 overall pick in the draft, and Richardson's visit is a good sign of things moving in that direction. With Bryce Young and C.J. Stroud the early favorites to be the top two quarterbacks off the board, the Colts will likely hone in on Richardson, Will Levis, and Hendon Hooker over the last few weeks as the draft approaches. Head coach Shane Steichen's success with dual-threat quarterback Jalen Hurts in Philly could make him a more attractive landing spot for Richardson, whose ceiling will require a lot of development to reach.
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SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Apr 13, 2023 at 11:26 AM ET
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ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler surveyed multiple NFL scouts and executives on who they would compare Anthony Richardson to.
Here were the most common comparisons:
• Josh Allen
• Cam Newton
• Donovan McNabb
• Justin Fields
The ceiling is HIGH for the Gators QB
Here, here!Anthony Richardson is obviously a high ceiling prospect with a significant risk of being a bust due to the limited college experience and the other flaws in his game that we are all aware of; however, with his attitude, work ethic, intelligence and with the reports that he crushed the team interview process, I am now fully rooting for Richardson to become a successful NFL quarterback and a citizen in the league.
The bolded is a strange statement - I think that Richardson might be even worse for Pittman & Co. if his accuracy is an issue out of the gate.ESPN's Matt Miller reports the Colts have QB Will Levis ahead of QB Anthony Richardson because Levis is "more likely to play right away."
With the fourth pick of the first round, the Colts are almost certain to select a quarterback, and it seems Levis' pro readiness makes him the favorite to go ahead of the rawer Richardson, who blew away scouts at the NFL Combine. Levis would compete with Gardner Minshew for Week 1 starting duties in Indianapolis and would eventually become the team's starter if Minshew lands the Week 1 gig and struggles for a stretch. The inaccurate Levis would likely be bad news for Michael Pittman and the rest of the Colts' pass catchers.
Perhaps one is beyond repairThe bolded is a strange statement - I think that Richardson might be even worse for Pittman & Co. if his accuracy is an issue out of the gate.ESPN's Matt Miller reports the Colts have QB Will Levis ahead of QB Anthony Richardson because Levis is "more likely to play right away."
With the fourth pick of the first round, the Colts are almost certain to select a quarterback, and it seems Levis' pro readiness makes him the favorite to go ahead of the rawer Richardson, who blew away scouts at the NFL Combine. Levis would compete with Gardner Minshew for Week 1 starting duties in Indianapolis and would eventually become the team's starter if Minshew lands the Week 1 gig and struggles for a stretch. The inaccurate Levis would likely be bad news for Michael Pittman and the rest of the Colts' pass catchers.
I could see that. I could also see him go #1 (I'd bet on the former over the latter but not much). I personally think Levis is the "unexpected" slide.Jim Nagy on Sirius was suggesting AR could be a slide that nobody in the media is expecting. Interesting.
Basically, Malik willis 2.0Jim Nagy on Sirius was suggesting AR could be a slide that nobody in the media is expecting. Interesting.
I agree with the Seahawks and Lions. I think the Vikings make sense too (for Richardson & Levis)Basically, Malik willis 2.0Jim Nagy on Sirius was suggesting AR could be a slide that nobody in the media is expecting. Interesting.
Honestly I think he should slide. Sure he can become a human highlight reel. More likely he’s yet another supremely gifted athlete who doesn’t put it together. You take him top 16 and doesn’t develop, at least a few jobs should be lost. Of course if he does, the sky is the limit.
There’s been more scuttle about the titans taking him in the last few days. I could almost accept the risk at 11, but not if they trade up.
I think Seattle is perfect for him. Lions might work too.
It appears the Colts will take Levis. Or it all could be a smokescreen.I agree with the Seahawks and Lions. I think the Vikings make sense too (for Richardson & Levis)Basically, Malik willis 2.0Jim Nagy on Sirius was suggesting AR could be a slide that nobody in the media is expecting. Interesting.
Honestly I think he should slide. Sure he can become a human highlight reel. More likely he’s yet another supremely gifted athlete who doesn’t put it together. You take him top 16 and doesn’t develop, at least a few jobs should be lost. Of course if he does, the sky is the limit.
There’s been more scuttle about the titans taking him in the last few days. I could almost accept the risk at 11, but not if they trade up.
I think Seattle is perfect for him. Lions might work too.
Whens the last time a team came out and told us what they are doing?It appears the Colts will take Levis. Or it all could be a smokescreen.I agree with the Seahawks and Lions. I think the Vikings make sense too (for Richardson & Levis)Basically, Malik willis 2.0Jim Nagy on Sirius was suggesting AR could be a slide that nobody in the media is expecting. Interesting.
Honestly I think he should slide. Sure he can become a human highlight reel. More likely he’s yet another supremely gifted athlete who doesn’t put it together. You take him top 16 and doesn’t develop, at least a few jobs should be lost. Of course if he does, the sky is the limit.
There’s been more scuttle about the titans taking him in the last few days. I could almost accept the risk at 11, but not if they trade up.
I think Seattle is perfect for him. Lions might work too.
I agree, but if it’s a QB they want at #4, then Levis seems to be the logical pick. However, if either Stroud or Young falls, then that changes everything. Personally, I think they should draft BPA instead of Levis.Whens the last time a team came out and told us what they are doing?It appears the Colts will take Levis. Or it all could be a smokescreen.I agree with the Seahawks and Lions. I think the Vikings make sense too (for Richardson & Levis)Basically, Malik willis 2.0Jim Nagy on Sirius was suggesting AR could be a slide that nobody in the media is expecting. Interesting.
Honestly I think he should slide. Sure he can become a human highlight reel. More likely he’s yet another supremely gifted athlete who doesn’t put it together. You take him top 16 and doesn’t develop, at least a few jobs should be lost. Of course if he does, the sky is the limit.
There’s been more scuttle about the titans taking him in the last few days. I could almost accept the risk at 11, but not if they trade up.
I think Seattle is perfect for him. Lions might work too.
Far more advanced than Willis - talent and intelligence.Basically, Malik willis 2.0Jim Nagy on Sirius was suggesting AR could be a slide that nobody in the media is expecting. Interesting.
Honestly I think he should slide. Sure he can become a human highlight reel. More likely he’s yet another supremely gifted athlete who doesn’t put it together. You take him top 16 and doesn’t develop, at least a few jobs should be lost. Of course if he does, the sky is the limit.
There’s been more scuttle about the titans taking him in the last few days. I could almost accept the risk at 11, but not if they trade up.
I think Seattle is perfect for him. Lions might work too.
How is he more advanced? He is a 53% passer with serious accuracy issues. If he is more advanced it isn’t by much.Far more advanced than Willis - talent and intelligence.Basically, Malik willis 2.0Jim Nagy on Sirius was suggesting AR could be a slide that nobody in the media is expecting. Interesting.
Honestly I think he should slide. Sure he can become a human highlight reel. More likely he’s yet another supremely gifted athlete who doesn’t put it together. You take him top 16 and doesn’t develop, at least a few jobs should be lost. Of course if he does, the sky is the limit.
There’s been more scuttle about the titans taking him in the last few days. I could almost accept the risk at 11, but not if they trade up.
I think Seattle is perfect for him. Lions might work too.
Based on what exactly? It sure hasn’t shown on the field. Willis is fairly intelligent. Likewise he hasn’t shown that intelligence on the field.Far more advanced than Willis - talent and intelligence.Basically, Malik willis 2.0Jim Nagy on Sirius was suggesting AR could be a slide that nobody in the media is expecting. Interesting.
Honestly I think he should slide. Sure he can become a human highlight reel. More likely he’s yet another supremely gifted athlete who doesn’t put it together. You take him top 16 and doesn’t develop, at least a few jobs should be lost. Of course if he does, the sky is the limit.
There’s been more scuttle about the titans taking him in the last few days. I could almost accept the risk at 11, but not if they trade up.
I think Seattle is perfect for him. Lions might work too.
Willis is a bad comp. Very few similarities in anything about their game. They are both mobile, that's where the comparison ends.
Josh Allen and Terrell Pryor are much more similar to Richardson.
Aaaaaaand how do we know they would be willing to even bother with one of these QBs at 4??I agree, but if it’s a QB they want at #4, then Levis seems to be the logical pick. However, if either Stroud or Young falls, then that changes everything. Personally, I think they should draft BPA instead of Levis.Whens the last time a team came out and told us what they are doing?It appears the Colts will take Levis. Or it all could be a smokescreen.I agree with the Seahawks and Lions. I think the Vikings make sense too (for Richardson & Levis)Basically, Malik willis 2.0Jim Nagy on Sirius was suggesting AR could be a slide that nobody in the media is expecting. Interesting.
Honestly I think he should slide. Sure he can become a human highlight reel. More likely he’s yet another supremely gifted athlete who doesn’t put it together. You take him top 16 and doesn’t develop, at least a few jobs should be lost. Of course if he does, the sky is the limit.
There’s been more scuttle about the titans taking him in the last few days. I could almost accept the risk at 11, but not if they trade up.
I think Seattle is perfect for him. Lions might work too.
After several years of Vets past their prime it is assumed they will go the draft route. Of course anything is possible however, and like I said, if it comes down to Levis or AR I hope the go a different direction.Aaaaaaand how do we know they would be willing to even bother with one of these QBs at 4??I agree, but if it’s a QB they want at #4, then Levis seems to be the logical pick. However, if either Stroud or Young falls, then that changes everything. Personally, I think they should draft BPA instead of Levis.Whens the last time a team came out and told us what they are doing?It appears the Colts will take Levis. Or it all could be a smokescreen.I agree with the Seahawks and Lions. I think the Vikings make sense too (for Richardson & Levis)Basically, Malik willis 2.0Jim Nagy on Sirius was suggesting AR could be a slide that nobody in the media is expecting. Interesting.
Honestly I think he should slide. Sure he can become a human highlight reel. More likely he’s yet another supremely gifted athlete who doesn’t put it together. You take him top 16 and doesn’t develop, at least a few jobs should be lost. Of course if he does, the sky is the limit.
There’s been more scuttle about the titans taking him in the last few days. I could almost accept the risk at 11, but not if they trade up.
I think Seattle is perfect for him. Lions might work too.
Will the fans be okay with Minshew as the #1 going into the season? I wouldn't. I'm not a believer in Minshew. IMO he's JAG with hilarious fashion sense and a moustache to kill for. That's great if he's running the team's social media but at QB, IMO it's essentially giving up on the season before it even starts.After several years of Vets past their prime it is assumed they will go the draft route. Of course anything is possible however, and like I said, if it comes down to Levis or AR I hope the go a different direction.Aaaaaaand how do we know they would be willing to even bother with one of these QBs at 4??I agree, but if it’s a QB they want at #4, then Levis seems to be the logical pick. However, if either Stroud or Young falls, then that changes everything. Personally, I think they should draft BPA instead of Levis.Whens the last time a team came out and told us what they are doing?It appears the Colts will take Levis. Or it all could be a smokescreen.I agree with the Seahawks and Lions. I think the Vikings make sense too (for Richardson & Levis)Basically, Malik willis 2.0Jim Nagy on Sirius was suggesting AR could be a slide that nobody in the media is expecting. Interesting.
Honestly I think he should slide. Sure he can become a human highlight reel. More likely he’s yet another supremely gifted athlete who doesn’t put it together. You take him top 16 and doesn’t develop, at least a few jobs should be lost. Of course if he does, the sky is the limit.
There’s been more scuttle about the titans taking him in the last few days. I could almost accept the risk at 11, but not if they trade up.
I think Seattle is perfect for him. Lions might work too.
I’d really like them to just keep hiring old QBs. Minshew is perfect.Will the fans be okay with Minshew as the #1 going into the season? I wouldn't. I'm not a believer in Minshew. IMO he's JAG with hilarious fashion sense and a moustache to kill for. That's great if he's running the team's social media but at QB, IMO it's essentially giving up on the season before it even starts.After several years of Vets past their prime it is assumed they will go the draft route. Of course anything is possible however, and like I said, if it comes down to Levis or AR I hope the go a different direction.Aaaaaaand how do we know they would be willing to even bother with one of these QBs at 4??I agree, but if it’s a QB they want at #4, then Levis seems to be the logical pick. However, if either Stroud or Young falls, then that changes everything. Personally, I think they should draft BPA instead of Levis.Whens the last time a team came out and told us what they are doing?It appears the Colts will take Levis. Or it all could be a smokescreen.I agree with the Seahawks and Lions. I think the Vikings make sense too (for Richardson & Levis)Basically, Malik willis 2.0Jim Nagy on Sirius was suggesting AR could be a slide that nobody in the media is expecting. Interesting.
Honestly I think he should slide. Sure he can become a human highlight reel. More likely he’s yet another supremely gifted athlete who doesn’t put it together. You take him top 16 and doesn’t develop, at least a few jobs should be lost. Of course if he does, the sky is the limit.
There’s been more scuttle about the titans taking him in the last few days. I could almost accept the risk at 11, but not if they trade up.
I think Seattle is perfect for him. Lions might work too.
How is he being viewed in Indy?
From the outside, after the past four seasons Indy really seems like a team, more than any other, that needs to make an effort to find their long term QB right now.
Indy as well.Seattle at 5 has the depth and coaching to sit him for a year, maybe two. Ideal scenario for AR to develope. Coaching does help accuracy, it's simply feet/balance issues.Plus the thing he lacks is game reps. Sitting him on the bench a couple years isn't going to help his accuracy.Unfortunately in this day and age, highly drafted QBs don’t tend to sit long if at all. Let’s say Indy drafts Richardson - Minshew may start initially but unless he lights it up, there will be calls for Richardson sooner rather than later.If a team has the time to mold and have him red-shirt - not back-up, but a true 3rd QB for a season and then begin to take the training wheels off in year 2, could have a talent that is Culepepper, Newton, Allen, Rothlesberger - esque