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QB Anthony Richardson, IND (8 Viewers)

What’s too early to spend in 1QB leagues?

I have 1.08 in two leagues and I’m actually going to consider whether to take him there, at least in one league. His ceiling is literally the most valuable fantasy QB ever. Sure, definite bust possibility as well. I will live with that dice roll seeking the upside. Could he go earlier than that?

The guys I like for sure above him right now are Bijan, Gibbs, JSN, Flowers, maybe Downs.
I think in 12 Team 1QB, 1.08 is early. More likely @ 1-2 turn. With the early bust concerns, his value would still be a bit depressed vs Stroud or the RB3/WR2 available
Question will be do I like any of them better than Richardson?

Yeah, trying to stay level headed and not be a prisoner of the moment. But man, if he ends up with an organization that can develop him, the upside is so tantalizing.

Seattle, Detroit, Vegas, Atlanta, Carolina? Sign me up big time. Indy doesn’t feel right though. Not sure about Houston, having to think more on that one but feels pretty meh at first blush.
 
Am I the only one who thinks Richardson is going to be drafted in the top 10? It only takes one team to like him that much.
He’s going #1
I hope he does. That only helps the Colts.
The colts might be the team who drafts him
Maybe, but he is not the typical QB the Colts draft. Besides, if he goes #1 why wpould the Colts do it when they could sit tight at 4 and get one of Stroud or Young? I doubt all 3 of them go in the first three picks.
The colts absolutely cannot sit around and hope for that. That’s crazy. They gotta go up.
 
Do you watch Richardson and think he doesn't have MORE trouble reading defenses?
I don't think that is at all a reasonable takeaway from watching him. Definitely inaccurate but hard to see from the film that he isn't going through his reads or what adjustments he was supposed to make.
 
I hold the 1.03 in my 12tm dynasty, 1 QB 4pt passing.

Not kidding anyone when I say I’m considering him as my first pick. Should I try to move down? Yep. Easier said than done? Yep.

I think I just like the chance of having the next Mahomes, Allen, or Hurts … rather than high floor WR2 (that’s how I view the WR class)
 
Am I the only one who thinks Richardson is going to be drafted in the top 10? It only takes one team to like him that much.
He’s going #1
I hope he does. That only helps the Colts.
The colts might be the team who drafts him
Maybe, but he is not the typical QB the Colts draft. Besides, if he goes #1 why wpould the Colts do it when they could sit tight at 4 and get one of Stroud or Young? I doubt all 3 of them go in the first three picks.
Colts will trade up. I’d bet a lot on that.
 
Am I the only one who thinks Richardson is going to be drafted in the top 10? It only takes one team to like him that much.
He’s going #1
I hope he does. That only helps the Colts.
The colts might be the team who drafts him
Maybe, but he is not the typical QB the Colts draft. Besides, if he goes #1 why wpould the Colts do it when they could sit tight at 4 and get one of Stroud or Young? I doubt all 3 of them go in the first three picks.
Colts will trade up. I’d bet a lot on that.
@JohnnyU doesn't want to accept this, but it's very true.
 
Am I the only one who thinks Richardson is going to be drafted in the top 10? It only takes one team to like him that much.
He’s going #1
I hope he does. That only helps the Colts.
The colts might be the team who drafts him
Maybe, but he is not the typical QB the Colts draft. Besides, if he goes #1 why wpould the Colts do it when they could sit tight at 4 and get one of Stroud or Young? I doubt all 3 of them go in the first three picks.
Colts will trade up. I’d bet a lot on that.
@JohnnyU doesn't want to accept this, but it's very true.
If they do I hope it’s for Stroud, but I think they just might stay at 4. No sense giving away draft capital when you can get just as good of a prospect by sitting tight at their current position.
 
If they do I hope it’s for Stroud, but I think they just might stay at 4. No sense giving away draft capital when you can get just as good of a prospect by sitting tight at their current position
The thinking must be, we are cool with whichever guy we get. If Bryce and Stroud go 1/2, the Colts cool with whoever they get?
 
If they do I hope it’s for Stroud, but I think they just might stay at 4. No sense giving away draft capital when you can get just as good of a prospect by sitting tight at their current position
The thinking must be, we are cool with whichever guy we get. If Bryce and Stroud go 1/2, the Colts cool with whoever they get?
And let’s not rule out the Cards trading down with Carolina or another team that wants a QB.
 
Am I the only one who thinks Richardson is going to be drafted in the top 10? It only takes one team to like him that much.
He’s going #1
I hope he does. That only helps the Colts.
The colts might be the team who drafts him
Maybe, but he is not the typical QB the Colts draft. Besides, if he goes #1 why wpould the Colts do it when they could sit tight at 4 and get one of Stroud or Young? I doubt all 3 of them go in the first three picks.
Colts will trade up. I’d bet a lot on that.
@JohnnyU doesn't want to accept this, but it's very true.
If they do I hope it’s for Stroud, but I think they just might stay at 4. No sense giving away draft capital when you can get just as good of a prospect by sitting tight at their current position.
You keep saying this but it’s not true lol.
 
If they do I hope it’s for Stroud, but I think they just might stay at 4. No sense giving away draft capital when you can get just as good of a prospect by sitting tight at their current position
The thinking must be, we are cool with whichever guy we get. If Bryce and Stroud go 1/2, the Colts cool with whoever they get?
Maybe they don’t take a QB at 4 and get Hooker at 35 and sign a one year stop gap. They aren’t winning anything in 2023 anyway.
 
Am I the only one who thinks Richardson is going to be drafted in the top 10? It only takes one team to like him that much.
He’s going #1
I hope he does. That only helps the Colts.
The colts might be the team who drafts him
Maybe, but he is not the typical QB the Colts draft. Besides, if he goes #1 why wpould the Colts do it when they could sit tight at 4 and get one of Stroud or Young? I doubt all 3 of them go in the first three picks.
Colts will trade up. I’d bet a lot on that.
@JohnnyU doesn't want to accept this, but it's very true.
If they do I hope it’s for Stroud, but I think they just might stay at 4. No sense giving away draft capital when you can get just as good of a prospect by sitting tight at their current position.
You keep saying this but it’s not true lol.
How do you know?
 
If they do I hope it’s for Stroud, but I think they just might stay at 4. No sense giving away draft capital when you can get just as good of a prospect by sitting tight at their current position
The thinking must be, we are cool with whichever guy we get. If Bryce and Stroud go 1/2, the Colts cool with whoever they get?
And let’s not rule out the Cards trading down with Carolina or another team that wants a QB.
Then maybe they like Levis. So, math says they get one without having to move up. The only one to move up for is Stroud IMO.
 
If they do I hope it’s for Stroud, but I think they just might stay at 4. No sense giving away draft capital when you can get just as good of a prospect by sitting tight at their current position
The thinking must be, we are cool with whichever guy we get. If Bryce and Stroud go 1/2, the Colts cool with whoever they get?
Maybe they don’t take a QB at 4 and get Hooker at 35 and sign a one year stop gap. They aren’t winning anything in 2023 anyway.

There is a little-known NFL rule that you cannot do 4 seasons in a row with a one year stop gap.
 
If they do I hope it’s for Stroud, but I think they just might stay at 4. No sense giving away draft capital when you can get just as good of a prospect by sitting tight at their current position
The thinking must be, we are cool with whichever guy we get. If Bryce and Stroud go 1/2, the Colts cool with whoever they get?
Maybe they don’t take a QB at 4 and get Hooker at 35 and sign a one year stop gap. They aren’t winning anything in 2023 anyway.

There is a little-known NFL rule that you cannot do 4 seasons in a row with a one year stop gap.
Kind of like the tuck rule
 
What’s too early to spend in 1QB leagues?

I have 1.08 in two leagues and I’m actually going to consider whether to take him there, at least in one league. His ceiling is literally the most valuable fantasy QB ever. Sure, definite bust possibility as well. I will live with that dice roll seeking the upside. Could he go earlier than that?

The guys I like for sure above him right now are Bijan, Gibbs, JSN, Flowers, maybe Downs.
I think in 12 Team 1QB, 1.08 is early. More likely @ 1-2 turn. With the early bust concerns, his value would still be a bit depressed vs Stroud or the RB3/WR2 available
Question will be do I like any of them better than Richardson?

Yeah, trying to stay level headed and not be a prisoner of the moment. But man, if he ends up with an organization that can develop him, the upside is so tantalizing.

Seattle, Detroit, Vegas, Atlanta, Carolina? Sign me up big time. Indy doesn’t feel right though. Not sure about Houston, having to think more on that one but feels pretty meh at first blush.
Vegas? 🤢
The rest could be good places for him.
 
If they do I hope it’s for Stroud, but I think they just might stay at 4. No sense giving away draft capital when you can get just as good of a prospect by sitting tight at their current position
The thinking must be, we are cool with whichever guy we get. If Bryce and Stroud go 1/2, the Colts cool with whoever they get?
And let’s not rule out the Cards trading down with Carolina or another team that wants a QB.
Then maybe they like Levis. So, math says they get one without having to move up. The only one to move up for is Stroud IMO.
We see this very differently as I think there’s a decent chance Stroud is the 4th one taken.
 
What’s too early to spend in 1QB leagues?

I have 1.08 in two leagues and I’m actually going to consider whether to take him there, at least in one league. His ceiling is literally the most valuable fantasy QB ever. Sure, definite bust possibility as well. I will live with that dice roll seeking the upside. Could he go earlier than that?

The guys I like for sure above him right now are Bijan, Gibbs, JSN, Flowers, maybe Downs.
I think in 12 Team 1QB, 1.08 is early. More likely @ 1-2 turn. With the early bust concerns, his value would still be a bit depressed vs Stroud or the RB3/WR2 available
Question will be do I like any of them better than Richardson?

Yeah, trying to stay level headed and not be a prisoner of the moment. But man, if he ends up with an organization that can develop him, the upside is so tantalizing.

Seattle, Detroit, Vegas, Atlanta, Carolina? Sign me up big time. Indy doesn’t feel right though. Not sure about Houston, having to think more on that one but feels pretty meh at first blush.
Vegas? 🤢
The rest could be good places for him.
Yeah, I wouldn’t call Vegas a good place for QB development
 
If they do I hope it’s for Stroud, but I think they just might stay at 4. No sense giving away draft capital when you can get just as good of a prospect by sitting tight at their current position
The thinking must be, we are cool with whichever guy we get. If Bryce and Stroud go 1/2, the Colts cool with whoever they get?
And let’s not rule out the Cards trading down with Carolina or another team that wants a QB.
Then maybe they like Levis. So, math says they get one without having to move up. The only one to move up for is Stroud IMO.
We see this very differently as I think there’s a decent chance Stroud is the 4th one taken.
All the more reason to stand pat at 4
 
Bears have to like this combine
Yeah that pick is going to be worth more and more
How so, with every QB looking good? Looks like teams can stand pat.

Colts and Texans could stand pat if they want other teams to decide which qb they get left with at 2 and 4. But just about every team behind the Colts needs a qb so it’s possible 3 qbs go before the Colts get to pick.
That will still leave what is considered a strong QB at 4. Ballard said he wouldn’t move up unless the player is worth it. That is a counter to an earlier statement where he said he would do what it takes to get the QB they want. So, you have Stroud, Young, Levis and Richardson. I personally don’t see the need to give away draft capital to move up and I would love it if two teams move up and take Levis and Richardson.
 
Bears have to like this combine
Yeah that pick is going to be worth more and more
How so, with every QB looking good? Looks like teams can stand pat.

Colts and Texans could stand pat if they want other teams to decide which qb they get left with at 2 and 4. But just about every team behind the Colts needs a qb so it’s possible 3 qbs go before the Colts get to pick.
That will still leave what is considered a strong QB at 4. Ballard said he wouldn’t move up unless the player is worth it. That is a counter to an earlier statement where he said he would do what it takes to get the QB they want. So, you have Stroud, Young, Levis and Richardson. I personally don’t see the need to give away draft capital to move up.

Too generic of a statement...if their scouting has one pegged as better than the rest and a legit franchise QB it makes all the sense in the world.
 
If they do I hope it’s for Stroud, but I think they just might stay at 4. No sense giving away draft capital when you can get just as good of a prospect by sitting tight at their current position
The thinking must be, we are cool with whichever guy we get. If Bryce and Stroud go 1/2, the Colts cool with whoever they get?
And let’s not rule out the Cards trading down with Carolina or another team that wants a QB.
Then maybe they like Levis. So, math says they get one without having to move up. The only one to move up for is Stroud IMO.
So what does the math say about the Colts having equal grades on all 4 QBs?
 
If they do I hope it’s for Stroud, but I think they just might stay at 4. No sense giving away draft capital when you can get just as good of a prospect by sitting tight at their current position
The thinking must be, we are cool with whichever guy we get. If Bryce and Stroud go 1/2, the Colts cool with whoever they get?
And let’s not rule out the Cards trading down with Carolina or another team that wants a QB.
Then maybe they like Levis. So, math says they get one without having to move up. The only one to move up for is Stroud IMO.
So what does the math say about the Colts having equal grades on all 4 QBs?
We don’t know because Ballard isn’t sharing that information as far as I know.
 
If they do I hope it’s for Stroud, but I think they just might stay at 4. No sense giving away draft capital when you can get just as good of a prospect by sitting tight at their current position
The thinking must be, we are cool with whichever guy we get. If Bryce and Stroud go 1/2, the Colts cool with whoever they get?
And let’s not rule out the Cards trading down with Carolina or another team that wants a QB.
Then maybe they like Levis. So, math says they get one without having to move up. The only one to move up for is Stroud IMO.
So what does the math say about the Colts having equal grades on all 4 QBs?
We don’t know because Ballard isn’t sharing that information as far as I know.
The laws of probability are based on trying to figure out the unknown.

What odds would you guess at the Colts rating all 4 QBs equally?
 
Bears have to like this combine
Yeah that pick is going to be worth more and more
How so, with every QB looking good? Looks like teams can stand pat.

Colts and Texans could stand pat if they want other teams to decide which qb they get left with at 2 and 4. But just about every team behind the Colts needs a qb so it’s possible 3 qbs go before the Colts get to pick.
That will still leave what is considered a strong QB at 4. Ballard said he wouldn’t move up unless the player is worth it. That is a counter to an earlier statement where he said he would do what it takes to get the QB they want. So, you have Stroud, Young, Levis and Richardson. I personally don’t see the need to give away draft capital to move up.

Too generic of a statement...if their scouting has one pegged as better than the rest and a legit franchise QB it makes all the sense in the world.
….and if they do I hope it is Stroud. I hope the rest are in the same Ballard bucket.
 
If they do I hope it’s for Stroud, but I think they just might stay at 4. No sense giving away draft capital when you can get just as good of a prospect by sitting tight at their current position
The thinking must be, we are cool with whichever guy we get. If Bryce and Stroud go 1/2, the Colts cool with whoever they get?
And let’s not rule out the Cards trading down with Carolina or another team that wants a QB.
Then maybe they like Levis. So, math says they get one without having to move up. The only one to move up for is Stroud IMO.
So what does the math say about the Colts having equal grades on all 4 QBs?
We don’t know because Ballard isn’t sharing that information as far as I know.
The laws of probability are based on trying to figure out the unknown.

What odds would you guess at the Colts rating all 4 QBs equally?
Perhaps 3 of them at 80%. Rumor has it that many NFL pundits don’t see a generational talent at QB this year. I do like Stroud over the rest and I hope Ballard does too.
 
Why exactly did the combine apparently rocket this guy into a top 5 pick??
It’s always still possible he doesn’t go top 10. We have heard anything credible that anyone is in love with him. Rumors that matter start now, it will be fun to follow.

Out of the top ten picks, only one has a “settled” starting QB, although Chicago should be and Arizona has their unique situation and not taking a QB. There’s virtually no way 4 of those 7 teams punt on QB.
I hope so anyway. AR is fun to think about but I really don’t want Ran to make his mark by drafting him.
 
One thing that worries me about missing out on Richardson because of taking a negative / heels dug in attitude is Lamar Jackson. Remember when he couldn’t hit the side of the barn standing 3 feet in front of it? So, if the price is right in my start 1QB leagues I’ll get a share or two. Jackson still not a great passer, but he is a great fantasy QB.
 
I saw a mock from a week ago that had him #1.
I guess I didn't realize he was that high on the draft radar.
I think I saw some betting books have moved Richardson up to having the 2nd best odds for being the first QB taken only behind Bryce.
 
Why exactly did the combine apparently rocket this guy into a top 5 pick??
Like others have said, he is more athletic than expected. Some thought he would try to shed some weight to juice his testing. He didn't. He came in massive and then tested beyond anyone's best expectations. Plus I think there is seeing him live and in person that matters. He has to be incredibly impressive to stand next to and to see the easy power in his arm. He flicks his wrist and the ball travels 60 yards. Also, the talk is that several teams were blown away by the team interviews- he was among the players most cited as having impressed there. That likely mattered every bit as much as all his wild testing numbers.
 
I just saw Young -160, Stroud +300, and Richardson +325, Will Levi's +600.

It seems if you are quite confident a QB goes #1, you can bet this and "guarantee" yourself some money.
 
One thing that worries me about missing out on Richardson because of taking a negative / heels dug in attitude is Lamar Jackson. Remember when he couldn’t hit the side of the barn standing 3 feet in front of it? So, if the price is right in my start 1QB leagues I’ll get a share or two. Jackson still not a great passer, but he is a great fantasy QB.
Same with Cam Newton, who was a far better passer than Richardson in college but never became a great NFL passer. If Richardson is just competent enough to remain an NFL starter he’ll be an above average fantasy QB because of his running. Now whether he can even reach that level is surely unknown. Cam Newton was a fantasy monster albeit for a short time.

I agree with you that the best NFL QB is likely to be Stroud. That is who I would want my NFL team to draft. In fantasy though I’d much rather have Richardson - outside of SF leagues where getting it right is that much more important- because of the upside. Even if he busts and Stroud is consistently around QB10, which is a win, you’re not losing much. Richardson has QB3 upside - obviously more of a long shot.
 
. If Richardson is just competent enough to remain an NFL starter he’ll be an above average fantasy QB because of his running.
If he's healthy and starting he's essentially can't miss as a high end fantasy starting QB.

Fields is really the new poster boy example. Granted he was threatening records as a runner but he had no weapons, only threw for 150 yards a game. Got hurt and was still QB6 in PPG.

Again, I get that Fields was on a record setting rushing pace but Richardson has better traits as a runner. He's bigger, faster, looks more elusive and looks more willing then Fields has at times.

Richardson has the best athletic rushing profile, the best purely athletic traits then any QB that I can think of in ever. That's can't miss for fantasy with upside as high as you can realistically imagine.
 
The problem with comparisons to guys like Cam and Fields is that they were EXPONENTIALLY better passers and players than Richardson when they entered the draft.

Newton
66"% completion, 10.2 YPA, 30 TD, 7 INT, 180rtg
Undefeated season, national champion

Fields
68% completion, 9.2 YPA, 41 TD, 3 INT, 181rtg
70% completion, 9.3 YPA, 22 TD, 6 INT, 175rtg
21-2 record

Richarson
53% completion, 7.8 YPA, 17 TD, 9 INT, 131rtg
6-7 record

He's just not even in the same realm of those guys.

Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen are the entire reason Richardson will get paid. Had they been busts he'd be a 5th rounder. So we'll see if he can take the leap they did. But he's even worse as a passer than either of them were, and at least Lamar elevated his team around him and turned a historically mediocre Louisville into a contender for a few years, whereas Florida actually looked better with the 2nd stringer in there at times when Richardson missed time.

Which is another thing being overlooked here. Richardson's entire value will be as a runner, but his career was a pretty constant string of soft tissue injuries that prevented him from running or caused his coaches to gameplan around his injuries by not letting him run. He only ran for 654yds as a career high in college. Lamar Jackson eclipsed 1500 rushing yards in a season twice.
 
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Well, is he inaccurate and unable to make certain throws, or is the low completion percentage have more to do with just generally not reading things well or reacting well, and not knowing WHERE to throw it?
I have no idea, I never watched him play.
 

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