QB Anthony Richardson, IND (2 Viewers)

[JohnnyU]

If he’s on the field he should be good for fantasy because of his running ability. It’s his ability to throw it effectively that may keep him off the field.

 

[Bri]

I still wouldn't draft him in the top dozen or so. Maybe after, if he falls.
After he learns, then there's gonna be a mess up mistake period, and I just don't think fans or GMs/owners have much patience anymore.
Ideal for me would be the Pack with one of the Jets picks. This will totally cover fans interest if Jordan Love isn't (curiously) next in line to be awesome and they can afford to give him time.
I saw yesterday- when will he be special and when he's due a new contract, has he earned the big one he'll be seeking? That's a twist too. I wouldn't care for any other position but 50-60 mil for a QB is probably the norm in five years right? If he rocks in year four I don't know that I'd be comfortable to a long term guaranteed deal then or one year after. These excessively high QB deals are tough to think on.

 

[zamboni]

The landing spot - presumably Indy - is going to complicate matters regarding Richardson. This isn't San Francisco drafting Lance, in which the Niners had the luxury to let him sit for a year because just about all the other pieces were in place. Have to think that Indy is tired of running out retreads at QB. Minshew can probably hold down the fort for a bit, but if struggles early, there will be a call for Richardson. The key will be if Steichen can pattern his offense to take advantage of Richardson's strengths, much like he did with Hurts before he took a big step forward with his passing accuracy.

 

[Snotbubbles]

The landing spot - presumably Indy - is going to complicate matters regarding Richardson. This isn't San Francisco drafting Lance, in which the Niners had the luxury to let him sit for a year because just about all the other pieces were in place. Have to think that Indy is tired of running out retreads at QB. Minshew can probably hold down the fort for a bit, but if struggles early, there will be a call for Richardson. The key will be if Steichen can pattern his offense to take advantage of Richardson's strengths, much like he did with Hurts before he took a big step forward with his passing accuracy.

Steichen was a really good offensive guy. I hope the Eagles don't run into the same issues they had when Reich left and the offense took two steps back without him.

 

[Faust]

Panthers head coach Frank Reich: Florida's Anthony Richardson has 'top-of-the draft' plays

 

[JohnnyU]

The landing spot - presumably Indy - is going to complicate matters regarding Richardson. This isn't San Francisco drafting Lance, in which the Niners had the luxury to let him sit for a year because just about all the other pieces were in place. Have to think that Indy is tired of running out retreads at QB. Minshew can probably hold down the fort for a bit, but if struggles early, there will be a call for Richardson. The key will be if Steichen can pattern his offense to take advantage of Richardson's strengths, much like he did with Hurts before he took a big step forward with his passing accuracy.

I wouldn't say presumably Indy.

 

[Chaka]

The landing spot - presumably Indy - is going to complicate matters regarding Richardson. This isn't San Francisco drafting Lance, in which the Niners had the luxury to let him sit for a year because just about all the other pieces were in place. Have to think that Indy is tired of running out retreads at QB. Minshew can probably hold down the fort for a bit, but if struggles early, there will be a call for Richardson. The key will be if Steichen can pattern his offense to take advantage of Richardson's strengths, much like he did with Hurts before he took a big step forward with his passing accuracy.

I wouldn't say presumably Indy.

Him or Levis, personally I'd be happier with Richardson's upside.

IMO Levis looks like his ceiling is Cutler 2.0

 

[JohnnyU]

The landing spot - presumably Indy - is going to complicate matters regarding Richardson. This isn't San Francisco drafting Lance, in which the Niners had the luxury to let him sit for a year because just about all the other pieces were in place. Have to think that Indy is tired of running out retreads at QB. Minshew can probably hold down the fort for a bit, but if struggles early, there will be a call for Richardson. The key will be if Steichen can pattern his offense to take advantage of Richardson's strengths, much like he did with Hurts before he took a big step forward with his passing accuracy.

I wouldn't say presumably Indy.

Him or Levis, personally I'd be happier with Richardson's upside.

IMO Levis looks like his ceiling is Cutler 2.0

Neither

 

[Chaka]

The landing spot - presumably Indy - is going to complicate matters regarding Richardson. This isn't San Francisco drafting Lance, in which the Niners had the luxury to let him sit for a year because just about all the other pieces were in place. Have to think that Indy is tired of running out retreads at QB. Minshew can probably hold down the fort for a bit, but if struggles early, there will be a call for Richardson. The key will be if Steichen can pattern his offense to take advantage of Richardson's strengths, much like he did with Hurts before he took a big step forward with his passing accuracy.

I wouldn't say presumably Indy.

Him or Levis, personally I'd be happier with Richardson's upside.

IMO Levis looks like his ceiling is Cutler 2.0

Neither

Both?

 

[Chaka]

The landing spot - presumably Indy - is going to complicate matters regarding Richardson. This isn't San Francisco drafting Lance, in which the Niners had the luxury to let him sit for a year because just about all the other pieces were in place. Have to think that Indy is tired of running out retreads at QB. Minshew can probably hold down the fort for a bit, but if struggles early, there will be a call for Richardson. The key will be if Steichen can pattern his offense to take advantage of Richardson's strengths, much like he did with Hurts before he took a big step forward with his passing accuracy.

I wouldn't say presumably Indy.

Him or Levis, personally I'd be happier with Richardson's upside.

IMO Levis looks like his ceiling is Cutler 2.0

Neither

Lamar?

 

[Faust]

Florida QB Anthony Richardson has the highest ceiling and lowest floor in the 2023 NFL Draft

 

[Snotbubbles]

Completing 53.8% of your passes in college is no bueno. I have a tough time seeing this guy developing into a competent passer.

 

[JohnnyU]

Completing 53.8% of your passes in college is no bueno. I have a tough time seeing this guy developing into a competent passer.

Well, I don't know for sure. Lamar Jackson once couldn't hit the side of a barn standing 3 feet from it, but somehow has improved. Still not great, but improved. The thing with AR is that if he isn't a competent NFL QB he isn't going to be on the field long, thus not having fantasy value. If he's able to stay on the field, he is going to be very valuable as a fantasy asset because of his running ability.

 

[massraider]

Lamar Jackson once couldn't hit the side of a barn standing 3 feet from it, but somehow has improved.

I'm rooting for ARich, but comparisons to Hurts/Newton/Lamar aren't doing him any favors. He was much worse than all of them. IF you were to say, well ARich's season reminds me of Lamar's FRESHMAN season, that's an apt comparison.

Where he is in these mocks is crazy to me. There's part of me that doesn't believe he will actually go this early. But maybe teams realized they missed the boat on other athletic QBs, and they are over-correcting.

 

[zamboni]

Completing 53.8% of your passes in college is no bueno. I have a tough time seeing this guy developing into a competent passer.

Josh Allen’s college completion rate was 56.2%. Granted, Allen is a rarity but the point is that guys can improve with the right coaching.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Lamar Jackson once couldn't hit the side of a barn standing 3 feet from it, but somehow has improved.

I'm rooting for ARich, but comparisons to Hurts/Newton/Lamar aren't doing him any favors. He was much worse than all of them. IF you were to say, well ARich's season reminds me of Lamar's FRESHMAN season, that's an apt comparison.

Where he is in these mocks is crazy to me. There's part of me that doesn't believe he will actually go this early. But maybe teams realized they missed the boat on other athletic QBs, and they are over-correcting.

Yeah, I'm not saying the kid won't make improvements, but he'll need to make a massive, massive leap in his passing to just be an NFL competent passer. Hurts & Newton aren't great comps because they were over 60% passing in their draft years, Hurts was never under 60% passing in college and was near 70% in his draft year. Lamar Jackson is a better comp, but I'm not sure he's what I'm hoping to eventually develop into as a passer.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Completing 53.8% of your passes in college is no bueno. I have a tough time seeing this guy developing into a competent passer.

Josh Allen’s college completion rate was 56.2%. Granted, Allen is a rarity but the point is that guys can improve with the right coaching.

Hurts accuracy improved dramatically

Can’t declare flatly it can’t happen for Richardson bc we just saw it

 

[zamboni]

Completing 53.8% of your passes in college is no bueno. I have a tough time seeing this guy developing into a competent passer.

Josh Allen’s college completion rate was 56.2%. Granted, Allen is a rarity but the point is that guys can improve with the right coaching.

Hurts accuracy improved dramatically

Can’t declare flatly it can’t happen for Richardson bc we just saw it

And the guy who helped Hurts get there just happens to be coaching Indy now.

 

[Birdie048]

Completing 53.8% of your passes in college is no bueno. I have a tough time seeing this guy developing into a competent passer.

Josh Allen’s college completion rate was 56.2%. Granted, Allen is a rarity but the point is that guys can improve with the right coaching.

Hurts accuracy improved dramatically

Can’t declare flatly it can’t happen for Richardson bc we just saw it

I agree... it "can happen" and likely with better coaching, instruction and physical program, it likely will, but from 53.8% to what level where he is a starting QB in NFL?
What is a threshold for a starting QB?

Looking at 2022 Completion %
1 Geno Smith = 69.8%
2 Joe Burrow = 68.3%
6 Dan Jones = 67.2%
10 A Dalton = 66.7%
11 J Hurts = 66.5%
13 T Lawrence = 66.3%
17 Mac Jones = 65.2%
20 A Rodgers = 64.6%

and below Top 25 Josh Allen 63.3%
Rus Wilson 60.5%
Justin Fields 60.4%

What level of improvement is necessary for ARich to be considered valuable?

IMO, if he can upgrade his reads and mechanics to get to > 61% in 2024, I can see the appeal. But what is the expectation and ceiling on his growth?

 

[Ilov80s]

Yeah, I'm not saying the kid won't make improvements, but he'll need to make a massive, massive leap in his passing to just be an NFL competent passer. Hurts & Newton aren't great comps because they were over 60% passing in their draft years, Hurts was never under 60% passing in college and was near 70% in his draft year. Lamar Jackson is a better comp, but I'm not sure he's what I'm hoping to eventually develop into as a passer.

Richardson also only started one year. It’s still reasonable to expect his accuracy to improve. He’s never going to be a precision passer but there’s room to grow.

 

[JohnnyU]

Yeah, I'm not saying the kid won't make improvements, but he'll need to make a massive, massive leap in his passing to just be an NFL competent passer. Hurts & Newton aren't great comps because they were over 60% passing in their draft years, Hurts was never under 60% passing in college and was near 70% in his draft year. Lamar Jackson is a better comp, but I'm not sure he's what I'm hoping to eventually develop into as a passer.

Richardson also only started one year. It’s still reasonable to expect his accuracy to improve. He’s never going to be a precision passer but there’s room to grow.I

I'm not so sure there is a correlation between time and accuracy in every case, but I get why you would say that.

 

[JohnnyU]

Lamar Jackson once couldn't hit the side of a barn standing 3 feet from it, but somehow has improved.

I'm rooting for ARich, but comparisons to Hurts/Newton/Lamar aren't doing him any favors. He was much worse than all of them. IF you were to say, well ARich's season reminds me of Lamar's FRESHMAN season, that's an apt comparison.

Where he is in these mocks is crazy to me. There's part of me that doesn't believe he will actually go this early. But maybe teams realized they missed the boat on other athletic QBs, and they are over-correcting.

Yeah, I'm not saying the kid won't make improvements, but he'll need to make a massive, massive leap in his passing to just be an NFL competent passer. Hurts & Newton aren't great comps because they were over 60% passing in their draft years, Hurts was never under 60% passing in college and was near 70% in his draft year. Lamar Jackson is a better comp, but I'm not sure he's what I'm hoping to eventually develop into as a passer.

Are you kidding me? If he can develop just as good as Jackson as a passer that is a win. Especially considering his running chops. He would be a fantasy stud if he developed marginally as a passer.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Lamar Jackson once couldn't hit the side of a barn standing 3 feet from it, but somehow has improved.

I'm rooting for ARich, but comparisons to Hurts/Newton/Lamar aren't doing him any favors. He was much worse than all of them. IF you were to say, well ARich's season reminds me of Lamar's FRESHMAN season, that's an apt comparison.

Where he is in these mocks is crazy to me. There's part of me that doesn't believe he will actually go this early. But maybe teams realized they missed the boat on other athletic QBs, and they are over-correcting.

Yeah, I'm not saying the kid won't make improvements, but he'll need to make a massive, massive leap in his passing to just be an NFL competent passer. Hurts & Newton aren't great comps because they were over 60% passing in their draft years, Hurts was never under 60% passing in college and was near 70% in his draft year. Lamar Jackson is a better comp, but I'm not sure he's what I'm hoping to eventually develop into as a passer.

Are you kidding me? If he can develop just as good as Jackson as a passer that is a win. Especially considering his running chops.

A win to do what, be a mediocre team?

 

[JohnnyU]

Lamar Jackson once couldn't hit the side of a barn standing 3 feet from it, but somehow has improved.

I'm rooting for ARich, but comparisons to Hurts/Newton/Lamar aren't doing him any favors. He was much worse than all of them. IF you were to say, well ARich's season reminds me of Lamar's FRESHMAN season, that's an apt comparison.

Where he is in these mocks is crazy to me. There's part of me that doesn't believe he will actually go this early. But maybe teams realized they missed the boat on other athletic QBs, and they are over-correcting.

Yeah, I'm not saying the kid won't make improvements, but he'll need to make a massive, massive leap in his passing to just be an NFL competent passer. Hurts & Newton aren't great comps because they were over 60% passing in their draft years, Hurts was never under 60% passing in college and was near 70% in his draft year. Lamar Jackson is a better comp, but I'm not sure he's what I'm hoping to eventually develop into as a passer.

Are you kidding me? If he can develop just as good as Jackson as a passer that is a win. Especially considering his running chops.

A win to do what, be a mediocre team?

A win for fantasy teams. If he's good enough to stay on an NFL field, he will be better for fantasy than most average to good pocket passers that are better than him, because of his running ability. The key will be whether he is playing or not. If he's so bad as a passer that it parks him on the bench, then all bets are off.

 

[Ilov80s]

I'm not so sure there is a correlation between time and accuracy in every case, but I get why you would say that.

I am not sure either but logically it would make sense that more reps leads to better play. I don't have any stats to back it up though.

 

[Ilov80s]

A win to do what, be a mediocre team?

How do you figure? I know QB wins isn't a real thing because it's such a team sport but Lamar is 45-16 as a starter. Lamar hasn't made the Ravens a mediocre team.

 

[JohnnyU]

I'm not so sure there is a correlation between time and accuracy in every case, but I get why you would say that.

I am not sure either but logically it would make sense that more reps leads to better play. I don't have any stats to back it up though.

It depends on the individual. Some guys just can't hit the broad side of a barn and it doesn't change.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

It's a concern either way, but I'd be more concerned if he were a 3 or 4 year starter that was still throwing only 53%.

 

[JohnnyU]

It's a concern either way, but I'd be more concerned if he were a 3 or 4 year starter that was still throwing only 53%.

Whenever I look at fantasy QB, they better either be great passers with great weapons, or be a competent passer to some extent with great legs. I know weapons for a great passer can change on a dime, but what I'm avoiding are QBs that are mediocre to just good pocket passers with a low ceiling. I don't play SF, so I can see value with them in that format, but in start 1QB leagues, the last thing I want is to roster those types of QBs.

 

[Mister CIA]

Does he really have accuracy issues? I legit don't know. In a very limited amount of drills he seems plenty accurate and I wonder if his 53% completion% it more a matter of footwork, reading defenses, and/or other fundamental aspects of being a QB ...like having an offense tailored around a particular skill set.

 

[JohnnyU]

Does he really have accuracy issues? I legit don't know. In a very limited amount of drills he seems plenty accurate and I wonder if his 53% completion% it more a matter of footwork, reading defenses, and/or other fundamental aspects of being a QB ...like having an offense tailored around a particular skill set.

It's a whole body of work in college, which is all we have to go on. Like I said, if he can improve somewhat on his ability to fling the rock, he will be a stud fantasy player given his ability to run. It's really that simple.

 

[JohnnyU]

I know I've been a blaster of AR, but I'm telling you now that I will consider him in dynasty drafts mid-1st, only because of his fantasy appeal if he's able to earn playing time for real, because of his ability to run the ball. If I were an NFL GM I would grimace at the site of him, but in fantasy,.......that is a different story.

 

[massraider]

Does he really have accuracy issues? I legit don't know. In a very limited amount of drills he seems plenty accurate and I wonder if his 53% completion% it more a matter of footwork, reading defenses, and/or other fundamental aspects of being a QB ...like having an offense tailored around a particular skill set.

He has some massive misses.

Thing is he doesn't need to get to 70% to be an all star like pocket passers do. He only needs to get to 60%. Some don't recognize that. They'll come around.

 

[Birdie048]

I know I've been a blaster of AR, but I'm telling you now that I will consider him in dynasty drafts mid-1st, only because of his fantasy appeal if he's able to earn playing time for real, because of his ability to run the ball. If I were an NFL GM I would grimace at the site of him, but in fantasy,.......that is a different story.

I am starting to consider him more in my 12 Team x 1QB league in the mid-2nd, but not in the 1st.
Some current 1QB Mocks have him ranging from as high as 1.10 to low of 2.12 ..... that range speaks of the dynamic variability he creates with "potential" vs Proven Talent.
I liked the interviews he did and showed his Football IQ

 

[Chaka]

I'm rooting for ARich, but comparisons to Hurts/Newton/Lamar aren't doing him any favors. He was much worse than all of them. IF you were to say, well ARich's season reminds me of Lamar's FRESHMAN season, that's an apt comparison.

By many measures Richardson's only season as a starter was better than Josh Allen's final season at Wyoming.

 

[JohnnyU]

I know I've been a blaster of AR, but I'm telling you now that I will consider him in dynasty drafts mid-1st, only because of his fantasy appeal if he's able to earn playing time for real, because of his ability to run the ball. If I were an NFL GM I would grimace at the site of him, but in fantasy,.......that is a different story.

I am starting to consider him more in my 12 Team x 1QB league in the mid-2nd, but not in the 1st.
Some current 1QB Mocks have him ranging from as high as 1.10 to low of 2.12 ..... that range speaks of the dynamic variability he creates with "potential" vs Proven Talent.
I liked the interviews he did and showed his Football IQ

I don't think he will fall to the 2nd very often, even in start 1qb leagues.

 

[Faust]

Florida QB Anthony Richardson meets with Panthers, Raiders ahead of pro day

Anthony Richardson NFL comparisons: How Florida's 'Cam Jackson' evokes Cam Newton, Lamar Jackson & Josh Allen

 

[massraider]

https://twitter.com/SECNetwork/status/1641479466986745873

ARich might not be able to hit the broadside of a barn, but he can hit the roof

 

[massraider]

If I was a crafty agent, I might tell ARich to hit the roof on purpose, just to show off. Then laugh and make fun of yourself to show what a fun humble guy you are.

 

[-OZ-]

https://twitter.com/SECNetwork/status/1641479466986745873

ARich might not be able to hit the broadside of a barn, but he can hit the roof

See how accurate I am?!!? I totally nailed it!
At least he laughed it off.

 

[zamboni]

https://twitter.com/SECNetwork/status/1641479466986745873

ARich might not be able to hit the broadside of a barn, but he can hit the roof

That was actually intended to be a screen pass.

 

[massraider]

He is 2.9 years younger than Levis. Geeeez

 

[Faust]

WATCH: Highlights of Florida QB Anthony Richardson's pro day

ANTHONY RICHARDSON ACCIDENTALLY CHUCKING ONE INTO THE RAFTERS MIGHT BE THE GREATEST THROW IN PRO DAY HISTORY

2023 NFL Draft: Anthony Richardson pro day performance garners commendations

 

[ILUVBEER99]

He is 2.9 years younger than Levis. Geeeez

He's 4 years and 4 months younger than Hendon Hooker.

 

[massraider]

He is 2.9 years younger than Levis. Geeeez

He's 4 years and 4 months younger than Hendon Hooker.

This draft better hurry up and get here before Hooker dies.

 

[zamboni]

He is 2.9 years younger than Levis. Geeeez

He's 4 years and 4 months younger than Hendon Hooker.

Hooker seems to increasingly pimped up by some draft experts.

 

[JohnnyU]

He is 2.9 years younger than Levis. Geeeez

He's 4 years and 4 months younger than Hendon Hooker.

This draft better hurry up and get here before Hooker dies.

I wonder how he will be able to take a snap and drop back with that walker.

 

[massraider]

Hooker seems to increasingly pimped up by some draft experts.

Hooker will get the job done I think, but eventually, you'll have to pay.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

This draft better hurry up and get here before Hooker dies.

And nobody wants to be caught with a dead Hooker.

 

[massraider]

This draft better hurry up and get here before Hooker dies.

And nobody wants to be caught with a dead Hooker.

Well done