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QB Baker Mayfield, TB (1 Viewer)
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osubuckeyeman
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Cousins leaves and Minnesota may consider Baker.
Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
3 years, $100M, $50M guaranteed per rapsheet.
Capella
Footballguy
50M guaranteed holy crap. Figured it would be 75 over 3.
massraider
Footballguy
I think it's kind of a perfect deal. Length is such they can get away from him anytime after this year, or run him out there for three years.
This keeps them from being desperate in their search for a QB, which is really good. Perfect bridge QB setup.
This keeps them from being desperate in their search for a QB, which is really good. Perfect bridge QB setup.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Licht wins again. Well played, sir. It’s a “do it again” kind of deal.
osubuckeyeman
Footballguy
So roughly 16 million a year. If we look at guaranteed money being the real deal.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Huh? If he plays out the contract, it isn’t $16m per year. I don’t get your point.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
$50M guaranteed. First year is $30M. Second is $20M guaranteed; $30M total. Think he’d have to be pretty bad next year not to play for the Bucs in 2025. So, $60M at minimum. If he has two good seasons they’re probably restructuring on a longer term deal for 2026.
osubuckeyeman
Footballguy
50 million is guaranteed and it's a 3-year deal. I know on paper it's 100 million but only 50 is guaranteed. I just read the blurb that came out. The actual numbers will come out with more details but I'm sure there is a way for the team to walk away after this season and for sure after two. I'm looking at the guaranteed money/contract over 3 years. I see this as a team-friendly deal. Also good for Baker who wanted to settle in Tampa. So much can happen in a year or two. He is walking away for sure with 50 million.
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Alex P Keaton
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Sources: Bucs, Mayfield agree to 3 years, $100M
The Buccaneers and QB Baker Mayfield are closing in on a three-year deal for $100 million in total and $50 million guaranteed, sources told ESPN.
Details attached. It’s a solid deal for everyone, but there is literally zero scenario where this ends up being $16m per year.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Shaky start to career and really stayed the coarse playing well with the Rams and then Bucs. Good for Baker.
osubuckeyeman
Footballguy
It can get to much more than 50 million. You know what forget it. You are right. I'll go with that.Sources: Bucs, Mayfield agree to 3 years, $100M
The Buccaneers and QB Baker Mayfield are closing in on a three-year deal for $100 million in total and $50 million guaranteed, sources told ESPN.www.espn.com
Details attached. It’s a solid deal for everyone, but there is literally zero scenario where this ends up being $16m per year.
The realistic view is 25 million a year over 2 years with a 3rd-year option or at least that is my opinion but the 50 million is the key term it is what he is going to get no matter what.
Teams release players all the time. Players do not play out their contracts all the time. As pointed out he would have to be pretty bad next year for them to give up on him so I guess the real way to look at it is 25 million over 2 years. It's 115 million with incentives but the real number I look at is how much the player is guaranteed. If you stretch out 50 million over 3 that is like 16.6 but it's 25 million for at least two years considering he is most likely making it through 2025. The rest of the deal is on paper and can go a lot of different ways.
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Ministry of Pain
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8-9 '24
-That's my prediction
-That's my prediction
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Not much different than last year then. In that division it still may get you a playoff unless the Falcons find a QB.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
20% of the guaranteed money Watson got. 
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Yes, but there’s more $$ in the deal than just the number guaranteed.It can get to much more than 50 million. You know what forget it. You are right. I'll go with that.Sources: Bucs, Mayfield agree to 3 years, $100M
The Buccaneers and QB Baker Mayfield are closing in on a three-year deal for $100 million in total and $50 million guaranteed, sources told ESPN.
Details attached. It’s a solid deal for everyone, but there is literally zero scenario where this ends up being $16m per year.
The realistic view is 25 million a year over 2 years with a 3rd-year option or at least that is my opinion but the 50 million is the key term it is what he is going to get no matter what.
Teams release players all the time. Players do not play out their contracts all the time. As pointed out he would have to be pretty bad next year for them to give up on him so I guess the real way to look at it is 25 million over 2 years. It's 115 million with incentives but the real number I look at is how much the player is guaranteed. If you stretch out 50 million over 3 that is like 16.6 but it's 25 million for at least two years considering he is most likely making it through 2025. The rest of the deal is on paper and can go a lot of different ways.
Alex P Keaton
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Regardless of the detailed numbers, I agree with your broader point that it seems like a good structure and deal for both Baker and the Bucs.It can get to much more than 50 million. You know what forget it. You are right. I'll go with that.Sources: Bucs, Mayfield agree to 3 years, $100M
The Buccaneers and QB Baker Mayfield are closing in on a three-year deal for $100 million in total and $50 million guaranteed, sources told ESPN.
Details attached. It’s a solid deal for everyone, but there is literally zero scenario where this ends up being $16m per year.
The realistic view is 25 million a year over 2 years with a 3rd-year option or at least that is my opinion but the 50 million is the key term it is what he is going to get no matter what.
Teams release players all the time. Players do not play out their contracts all the time. As pointed out he would have to be pretty bad next year for them to give up on him so I guess the real way to look at it is 25 million over 2 years. It's 115 million with incentives but the real number I look at is how much the player is guaranteed. If you stretch out 50 million over 3 that is like 16.6 but it's 25 million for at least two years considering he is most likely making it through 2025. The rest of the deal is on paper and can go a lot of different ways.
osubuckeyeman
Footballguy
Incentive bonuses but those are not guaranteed. He is more than likely getting more as to the likelihood of meeting those but guaranteed is guaranteed. it's a good deal but not nearly what people thought or predicted he would get. I see it as more 25 million a year over 2 years with an opportunity to see what happens in year 3.Yes, but there’s more $$ in the deal than just the number guaranteed.It can get to much more than 50 million. You know what forget it. You are right. I'll go with that.Sources: Bucs, Mayfield agree to 3 years, $100M
The Buccaneers and QB Baker Mayfield are closing in on a three-year deal for $100 million in total and $50 million guaranteed, sources told ESPN.
Details attached. It’s a solid deal for everyone, but there is literally zero scenario where this ends up being $16m per year.
The realistic view is 25 million a year over 2 years with a 3rd-year option or at least that is my opinion but the 50 million is the key term it is what he is going to get no matter what.
Teams release players all the time. Players do not play out their contracts all the time. As pointed out he would have to be pretty bad next year for them to give up on him so I guess the real way to look at it is 25 million over 2 years. It's 115 million with incentives but the real number I look at is how much the player is guaranteed. If you stretch out 50 million over 3 that is like 16.6 but it's 25 million for at least two years considering he is most likely making it through 2025. The rest of the deal is on paper and can go a lot of different ways.
osubuckeyeman
Footballguy
This is true. It is a good and fair deal for both. I'm happy for Baker. I just wish they could have kept Dave Canales.Regardless of the detailed numbers, I agree with your broader point that it seems like a good structure and deal for both Baker and the Bucs.It can get to much more than 50 million. You know what forget it. You are right. I'll go with that.Sources: Bucs, Mayfield agree to 3 years, $100M
The Buccaneers and QB Baker Mayfield are closing in on a three-year deal for $100 million in total and $50 million guaranteed, sources told ESPN.
Details attached. It’s a solid deal for everyone, but there is literally zero scenario where this ends up being $16m per year.
The realistic view is 25 million a year over 2 years with a 3rd-year option or at least that is my opinion but the 50 million is the key term it is what he is going to get no matter what.
Teams release players all the time. Players do not play out their contracts all the time. As pointed out he would have to be pretty bad next year for them to give up on him so I guess the real way to look at it is 25 million over 2 years. It's 115 million with incentives but the real number I look at is how much the player is guaranteed. If you stretch out 50 million over 3 that is like 16.6 but it's 25 million for at least two years considering he is most likely making it through 2025. The rest of the deal is on paper and can go a lot of different ways.
osubuckeyeman
Footballguy
Amen.20% of the guaranteed money Watson got.
Capella
Footballguy
Well your predictions have definitely been spot on with this situation so far.
massraider
Footballguy
I dunno what you looking at but:
He is most likely getting 60 mill over two years, and then we'll see. If everything goes badly, they can cut him for a 20 mill hit next year.
osubuckeyeman
Footballguy
It is exactly what I'm looking at 100%. He is guaranteed 50 million. Nothing else is. He is more likely going to meet incentives but not for sure 100%. There are a lot of ways to look at contracts. Teams, players, and agents look at them differently as well.
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rockaction
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I'm waiting for a day or two before I allow myself to figure out his contract. They're reporting these deals all wrong these days. You have no idea what the word "guarantee" means in these contracts anymore. It could be a roster bonus "guarantee" that's sold to the reader as an iron-clad guarantee. They're starting to report these things so erroneously that you really have to wait. You had to wait for a day or two to get the real Mike Evans contract, and I won't be surprised if it's the same with Mayfield.
osubuckeyeman
Footballguy
This also can be true. Reports get leaked from all over. Agents/teams.
He is guaranteed $40m.
osubuckeyeman
Footballguy
The good news as a Baker Mayfield manager's point of view he is staying in Tampa with a pretty good #1 WR. Good complement receivers and a good running game/well good receiving running back at least. As long as the new staff does their part on play calling and other key team concerns.
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
Yeah, and the salary cap looks at it a certain way as well
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
It was 1 yr $4M in '23
Yeah, he got a raise, earned it.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Jason Licht looking kind of wise poaching all these QB castoffs lately.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
-Big difference between a cast off at $4M and the $40M the Bucs are paying this season
He earned an increase of 1,000%? That's what you're saying here.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
$30M in 2024
$30M in 2025 with $20M guaranteed
$40M in 2026 with $0 guaranteed
I don’t see how anyone could think this is a bad deal for either side considering the way he played in 2023. He’s not a castoff anymore. Dude balled last year.
It's only$30M a year if they keep him for two years.
Tampa got a steal last year, that's half of what some guys like Tyrod made last year. Some people are saying this helps set a new middle class for non-rookie contract starting QB's. If it's $30M a year it's more of the helping set a standard for the new lower middle class. I think his play last year makes him worthy of that.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
5 million each year in incentives also. Be interesting what those are. If I were to guess I'd bet they are the super easy ones to reach that basically kick in if he plays most of each season. With the current QB salaries it feels like a good deal for Bucs and for Baker. Well done man.
sheerterror
Footballguy
This is how I see it. At no point can this be a 3 year deal with an AAV of $16m or whatever. If he 'only' gets $50m, then the contract did not last 3 years.
beef
Footballguy
Your understanding of percentages is better than the area of circles.
osubuckeyeman
Footballguy
I agree and think it's fair. People forget that he had some bad years as well. Canales is gone now. It's a balanced deal. I think Baker wanting to keep his family in Tampa played a role. He and his wife are expecting their firstborn soon.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Not saying this is what happened, but my initial FEELING was they locked themselves into mediocrity for a while.
That said, as a Browns fan, I'd still rather have Baker on that deal plus the few first rounders we gave up instead of Watson and his deal. Hindsight 20-20 and all
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I'm just asking questions and have a slightly different POV on Baker but make no mistake...
When he wears that Bucs uniform and Week 1 is about to start, I will be wearing my Pewter colored Tom Brady jersey
Go Bucs!
And I appreciate you guys posting back
-Am I not reading the contract right? He got no signing bonus whatsoever? I see the $40-$50M guaranteed but they literally could release him Mid-Late-season with almost no penalty.
Maybe some guaranteed cash spread out over a season or two but almost nothing. I thought for sure he would get quite the signing bonus which would be most of his 1st year salary
and would be very cap friendly. I'm not saying it won't happen but we aren't hearing anything that says it is either.
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
I think Baker is an underrated QB. Look at his numbers in CLE despite having HORRID coaches. He was a 94% passer rating that rookie year, regressed, then had a 98% passer rating in year 3. Everyone gushes over CJ Stroud who I loved coming out and still do obviously. CJ's rookie year was a 100% rating. There's not much difference.
Sometimes perception is not reality. Baker has played for CLE and CAR. Can it get much worse? Those are bottom 5 franchises the past few years, and CAR was a mess. His time with LAR and TB was better under better coaching ... 64% completion rate, decent TD/INT rate.
I think TB did well to keep him and that he will see all 3 years of this contract.
Sometimes perception is not reality. Baker has played for CLE and CAR. Can it get much worse? Those are bottom 5 franchises the past few years, and CAR was a mess. His time with LAR and TB was better under better coaching ... 64% completion rate, decent TD/INT rate.
I think TB did well to keep him and that he will see all 3 years of this contract.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
As an outsider, I'm still confused as to why they decided to move on from Mayfield. Yes, his 2022 was up and down, but didn't he play with a shoulder injury pretty much all season? Was it more because Watson was available and perceived as an upgrade?
