You mentioned Lil Jordan and Tim Patrick and the FB. The quoted post mentioned Nix. Mims has been well documented this summer. This post is not exactly disagreeable to what I saidMeh. I'm a pretty stalwart Broncos fan and believe that Payton & Co. have done a phenomenal job this offseason. There's a palpable change in team culture and a core of young, hungry, aggressive players on the ascent of their career.Well the Broncos did a poor job of predicting who will make the team, start and be what string, and assigning minutes/opportunities related to thatTo clarify (using Allbright's own words), what Allbright says is "basically" true.x.com
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Bo's usage with first string but against second and third string
However, in the first preseason game (Colts), Nix also played primarily with 2nd and 3rd teamers. Only his first out of five series was with first team.
The Packers did sit their starters in the second game, but in the joint practices earlier that week it was 1's vs 1's and Nix showed pretty well.
Obviously anything that occurs in the preseason needs to be taken with a big grain of salt...but Benjamin Allbright is also not the most precise reporter when it comes to making his point.
There's a growing number of people rightfully upset that the guys cut and that left got the bulk of the work over the inexperienced ones. I think it started last year with Lil Jordan and Mims and grew from there in a bothersome way to fans.
That's a poor job by the experienced Sean Payton.
As far as Nix, the QB must have a rapport with the starting WRs which apparently worked out in this messed up summer for them. The other is the backs + TE (safety valve) and the all important OL communication and adjustments.
It could be minimal and everyone is a pros pro here but chances are there are sacks and whoops stuff the first bit of the season that could have been worked out.
From the cut list (below), WR Lil Jordan and FB Michael Burton are the only ones that got cut that significant reps during preseason. But Payton has known all along those guys would clear waivers and, like last year, he could elevate them from the practice squad when needed.
Tim Patrick got significant run in the Packers game but in retrospect that was showcasing for a trade that unfortunately didn't work out.
At QB, none of the players would have respected Nix in the huddle if he didn't earn it right in front of their eyes. Yes, that required Stidham to getting some first team reps but it came with the huge benefit that now everyone in the locker room is bought in. No different than multiple other positional competitions held this summer.
This team is finally being built the right way IMO.
Broncos Cut List
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Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
LOL, um, yes it is. You stated "That's a poor job by the experienced Sean Payton", as you lamented his handling off the off-season, adding that the Broncos "did a poor job of predicting who will make the team, start and be what string, and assigning minutes/opportunities related to that". And that "there's a growing number of people rightfully upset...", etc.You mentioned Lil Jordan and Tim Patrick and the FB. The quoted post mentioned Nix. Mims has been well documented this summer. This post is not exactly disagreeable to what I saidMeh. I'm a pretty stalwart Broncos fan and believe that Payton & Co. have done a phenomenal job this offseason. There's a palpable change in team culture and a core of young, hungry, aggressive players on the ascent of their career.Well the Broncos did a poor job of predicting who will make the team, start and be what string, and assigning minutes/opportunities related to thatTo clarify (using Allbright's own words), what Allbright says is "basically" true.x.com
Bo's usage with first string but against second and third string
However, in the first preseason game (Colts), Nix also played primarily with 2nd and 3rd teamers. Only his first out of five series was with first team.
The Packers did sit their starters in the second game, but in the joint practices earlier that week it was 1's vs 1's and Nix showed pretty well.
Obviously anything that occurs in the preseason needs to be taken with a big grain of salt...but Benjamin Allbright is also not the most precise reporter when it comes to making his point.
There's a growing number of people rightfully upset that the guys cut and that left got the bulk of the work over the inexperienced ones. I think it started last year with Lil Jordan and Mims and grew from there in a bothersome way to fans.
That's a poor job by the experienced Sean Payton.
As far as Nix, the QB must have a rapport with the starting WRs which apparently worked out in this messed up summer for them. The other is the backs + TE (safety valve) and the all important OL communication and adjustments.
It could be minimal and everyone is a pros pro here but chances are there are sacks and whoops stuff the first bit of the season that could have been worked out.
From the cut list (below), WR Lil Jordan and FB Michael Burton are the only ones that got cut that significant reps during preseason. But Payton has known all along those guys would clear waivers and, like last year, he could elevate them from the practice squad when needed.
Tim Patrick got significant run in the Packers game but in retrospect that was showcasing for a trade that unfortunately didn't work out.
At QB, none of the players would have respected Nix in the huddle if he didn't earn it right in front of their eyes. Yes, that required Stidham to getting some first team reps but it came with the huge benefit that now everyone in the locker room is bought in. No different than multiple other positional competitions held this summer.
This team is finally being built the right way IMO.
Broncos Cut List
First of all, it's funny that you actually think a coach like Sean Payton doesn't know what he's doing. Sorry his actions aren't helpful to Super FF Fans, but please note; He could not care less.
And thinking your post is "not exactly disagreeable" to Stoneworker's is also bonkers. What SW said was in direct contrast to the picture you tried to paint. A guy that follows the Broncos closely stated that "This team is finally being built the right way". Your post was anything but that.
i'm also a fan of Denver and this is the first time in years that I think the team is moving in the right direction and that is because of the HC
HW_53
Footballguy
In spite of being a lifelong Raider fan, it feels like the Broncos have taken a step in the right direction with this pick.
Thanks for this response. It was very helpful to the discussionLOL, um, yes it is. You stated "That's a poor job by the experienced Sean Payton", as you lamented his handling off the off-season, adding that the Broncos "did a poor job of predicting who will make the team, start and be what string, and assigning minutes/opportunities related to that". And that "there's a growing number of people rightfully upset...", etc.You mentioned Lil Jordan and Tim Patrick and the FB. The quoted post mentioned Nix. Mims has been well documented this summer. This post is not exactly disagreeable to what I saidMeh. I'm a pretty stalwart Broncos fan and believe that Payton & Co. have done a phenomenal job this offseason. There's a palpable change in team culture and a core of young, hungry, aggressive players on the ascent of their career.Well the Broncos did a poor job of predicting who will make the team, start and be what string, and assigning minutes/opportunities related to thatTo clarify (using Allbright's own words), what Allbright says is "basically" true.x.com
Bo's usage with first string but against second and third string
However, in the first preseason game (Colts), Nix also played primarily with 2nd and 3rd teamers. Only his first out of five series was with first team.
The Packers did sit their starters in the second game, but in the joint practices earlier that week it was 1's vs 1's and Nix showed pretty well.
Obviously anything that occurs in the preseason needs to be taken with a big grain of salt...but Benjamin Allbright is also not the most precise reporter when it comes to making his point.
There's a growing number of people rightfully upset that the guys cut and that left got the bulk of the work over the inexperienced ones. I think it started last year with Lil Jordan and Mims and grew from there in a bothersome way to fans.
That's a poor job by the experienced Sean Payton.
As far as Nix, the QB must have a rapport with the starting WRs which apparently worked out in this messed up summer for them. The other is the backs + TE (safety valve) and the all important OL communication and adjustments.
It could be minimal and everyone is a pros pro here but chances are there are sacks and whoops stuff the first bit of the season that could have been worked out.
From the cut list (below), WR Lil Jordan and FB Michael Burton are the only ones that got cut that significant reps during preseason. But Payton has known all along those guys would clear waivers and, like last year, he could elevate them from the practice squad when needed.
Tim Patrick got significant run in the Packers game but in retrospect that was showcasing for a trade that unfortunately didn't work out.
At QB, none of the players would have respected Nix in the huddle if he didn't earn it right in front of their eyes. Yes, that required Stidham to getting some first team reps but it came with the huge benefit that now everyone in the locker room is bought in. No different than multiple other positional competitions held this summer.
This team is finally being built the right way IMO.
Broncos Cut List
First of all, it's funny that you actually think a coach like Sean Payton doesn't know what he's doing. Sorry his actions aren't helpful to Super FF Fans, but please note; He could not care less.
And thinking your post is "not exactly disagreeable" to Stoneworker's is also bonkers. What SW said was in direct contrast to the picture you tried to paint. A guy that follows the Broncos closely stated that "This team is finally being built the right way". Your post was anything but that.
Stoneworker
Footballguy
Classy
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No need to be a dic%. He was trying to find common ground before you decided to get all hot and bothered and win the internet today.LOL, um, yes it is. You stated "That's a poor job by the experienced Sean Payton", as you lamented his handling off the off-season, adding that the Broncos "did a poor job of predicting who will make the team, start and be what string, and assigning minutes/opportunities related to that". And that "there's a growing number of people rightfully upset...", etc.You mentioned Lil Jordan and Tim Patrick and the FB. The quoted post mentioned Nix. Mims has been well documented this summer. This post is not exactly disagreeable to what I saidMeh. I'm a pretty stalwart Broncos fan and believe that Payton & Co. have done a phenomenal job this offseason. There's a palpable change in team culture and a core of young, hungry, aggressive players on the ascent of their career.Well the Broncos did a poor job of predicting who will make the team, start and be what string, and assigning minutes/opportunities related to thatTo clarify (using Allbright's own words), what Allbright says is "basically" true.x.com
Bo's usage with first string but against second and third string
However, in the first preseason game (Colts), Nix also played primarily with 2nd and 3rd teamers. Only his first out of five series was with first team.
The Packers did sit their starters in the second game, but in the joint practices earlier that week it was 1's vs 1's and Nix showed pretty well.
Obviously anything that occurs in the preseason needs to be taken with a big grain of salt...but Benjamin Allbright is also not the most precise reporter when it comes to making his point.
There's a growing number of people rightfully upset that the guys cut and that left got the bulk of the work over the inexperienced ones. I think it started last year with Lil Jordan and Mims and grew from there in a bothersome way to fans.
That's a poor job by the experienced Sean Payton.
As far as Nix, the QB must have a rapport with the starting WRs which apparently worked out in this messed up summer for them. The other is the backs + TE (safety valve) and the all important OL communication and adjustments.
It could be minimal and everyone is a pros pro here but chances are there are sacks and whoops stuff the first bit of the season that could have been worked out.
From the cut list (below), WR Lil Jordan and FB Michael Burton are the only ones that got cut that significant reps during preseason. But Payton has known all along those guys would clear waivers and, like last year, he could elevate them from the practice squad when needed.
Tim Patrick got significant run in the Packers game but in retrospect that was showcasing for a trade that unfortunately didn't work out.
At QB, none of the players would have respected Nix in the huddle if he didn't earn it right in front of their eyes. Yes, that required Stidham to getting some first team reps but it came with the huge benefit that now everyone in the locker room is bought in. No different than multiple other positional competitions held this summer.
This team is finally being built the right way IMO.
Broncos Cut List
First of all, it's funny that you actually think a coach like Sean Payton doesn't know what he's doing. Sorry his actions aren't helpful to Super FF Fans, but please note; He could not care less.
And thinking your post is "not exactly disagreeable" to Stoneworker's is also bonkers. What SW said was in direct contrast to the picture you tried to paint. A guy that follows the Broncos closely stated that "This team is finally being built the right way". Your post was anything but that.
statistically, at least one Raiders fan had to be classyClassy
Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
Huh? Don't think I'm the first one here to disagree with what someone is saying, fyi.No need to be a dic%. He was trying to find common ground before you decided to get all hot and bothered and win the internet today.LOL, um, yes it is. You stated "That's a poor job by the experienced Sean Payton", as you lamented his handling off the off-season, adding that the Broncos "did a poor job of predicting who will make the team, start and be what string, and assigning minutes/opportunities related to that". And that "there's a growing number of people rightfully upset...", etc.You mentioned Lil Jordan and Tim Patrick and the FB. The quoted post mentioned Nix. Mims has been well documented this summer. This post is not exactly disagreeable to what I saidMeh. I'm a pretty stalwart Broncos fan and believe that Payton & Co. have done a phenomenal job this offseason. There's a palpable change in team culture and a core of young, hungry, aggressive players on the ascent of their career.Well the Broncos did a poor job of predicting who will make the team, start and be what string, and assigning minutes/opportunities related to thatTo clarify (using Allbright's own words), what Allbright says is "basically" true.x.com
Bo's usage with first string but against second and third string
However, in the first preseason game (Colts), Nix also played primarily with 2nd and 3rd teamers. Only his first out of five series was with first team.
The Packers did sit their starters in the second game, but in the joint practices earlier that week it was 1's vs 1's and Nix showed pretty well.
Obviously anything that occurs in the preseason needs to be taken with a big grain of salt...but Benjamin Allbright is also not the most precise reporter when it comes to making his point.
There's a growing number of people rightfully upset that the guys cut and that left got the bulk of the work over the inexperienced ones. I think it started last year with Lil Jordan and Mims and grew from there in a bothersome way to fans.
That's a poor job by the experienced Sean Payton.
As far as Nix, the QB must have a rapport with the starting WRs which apparently worked out in this messed up summer for them. The other is the backs + TE (safety valve) and the all important OL communication and adjustments.
It could be minimal and everyone is a pros pro here but chances are there are sacks and whoops stuff the first bit of the season that could have been worked out.
From the cut list (below), WR Lil Jordan and FB Michael Burton are the only ones that got cut that significant reps during preseason. But Payton has known all along those guys would clear waivers and, like last year, he could elevate them from the practice squad when needed.
Tim Patrick got significant run in the Packers game but in retrospect that was showcasing for a trade that unfortunately didn't work out.
At QB, none of the players would have respected Nix in the huddle if he didn't earn it right in front of their eyes. Yes, that required Stidham to getting some first team reps but it came with the huge benefit that now everyone in the locker room is bought in. No different than multiple other positional competitions held this summer.
This team is finally being built the right way IMO.
Broncos Cut List
First of all, it's funny that you actually think a coach like Sean Payton doesn't know what he's doing. Sorry his actions aren't helpful to Super FF Fans, but please note; He could not care less.
And thinking your post is "not exactly disagreeable" to Stoneworker's is also bonkers. What SW said was in direct contrast to the picture you tried to paint. A guy that follows the Broncos closely stated that "This team is finally being built the right way". Your post was anything but that.
And I'm fine pal, definitely not the one that's hot and bothered and felt so compelled as to need to rush in and play i-defender, lol, but congrats!?
hey just cuz he was great in New Orleans doesnt make him great in Denver. even great coaches make mistakes or fall out of favour.LOL, um, yes it is. You stated "That's a poor job by the experienced Sean Payton", as you lamented his handling off the off-season, adding that the Broncos "did a poor job of predicting who will make the team, start and be what string, and assigning minutes/opportunities related to that". And that "there's a growing number of people rightfully upset...", etc.You mentioned Lil Jordan and Tim Patrick and the FB. The quoted post mentioned Nix. Mims has been well documented this summer. This post is not exactly disagreeable to what I saidMeh. I'm a pretty stalwart Broncos fan and believe that Payton & Co. have done a phenomenal job this offseason. There's a palpable change in team culture and a core of young, hungry, aggressive players on the ascent of their career.Well the Broncos did a poor job of predicting who will make the team, start and be what string, and assigning minutes/opportunities related to thatTo clarify (using Allbright's own words), what Allbright says is "basically" true.x.com
Bo's usage with first string but against second and third string
However, in the first preseason game (Colts), Nix also played primarily with 2nd and 3rd teamers. Only his first out of five series was with first team.
The Packers did sit their starters in the second game, but in the joint practices earlier that week it was 1's vs 1's and Nix showed pretty well.
Obviously anything that occurs in the preseason needs to be taken with a big grain of salt...but Benjamin Allbright is also not the most precise reporter when it comes to making his point.
There's a growing number of people rightfully upset that the guys cut and that left got the bulk of the work over the inexperienced ones. I think it started last year with Lil Jordan and Mims and grew from there in a bothersome way to fans.
That's a poor job by the experienced Sean Payton.
As far as Nix, the QB must have a rapport with the starting WRs which apparently worked out in this messed up summer for them. The other is the backs + TE (safety valve) and the all important OL communication and adjustments.
It could be minimal and everyone is a pros pro here but chances are there are sacks and whoops stuff the first bit of the season that could have been worked out.
From the cut list (below), WR Lil Jordan and FB Michael Burton are the only ones that got cut that significant reps during preseason. But Payton has known all along those guys would clear waivers and, like last year, he could elevate them from the practice squad when needed.
Tim Patrick got significant run in the Packers game but in retrospect that was showcasing for a trade that unfortunately didn't work out.
At QB, none of the players would have respected Nix in the huddle if he didn't earn it right in front of their eyes. Yes, that required Stidham to getting some first team reps but it came with the huge benefit that now everyone in the locker room is bought in. No different than multiple other positional competitions held this summer.
This team is finally being built the right way IMO.
Broncos Cut List
First of all, it's funny that you actually think a coach like Sean Payton doesn't know what he's doing. Sorry his actions aren't helpful to Super FF Fans, but please note; He could not care less.
And thinking your post is "not exactly disagreeable" to Stoneworker's is also bonkers. What SW said was in direct contrast to the picture you tried to paint. A guy that follows the Broncos closely stated that "This team is finally being built the right way". Your post was anything but that.
not saying thats what's happening here, but I think it would be foolish to assume he cant make a mistake. people said the same about Belichek and he finally got his arse fired. so it happens.
Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
I agree with that and Bill B is a good example, although I would still take either one over most NFL coaches. Like top 10. Simply must have a good qb, duh, for starters. We'll see if Nix is any good and what/how he does with him. Regardless, I am pretty sure a culture change in Denver has taken place, and easily for the better, like Payton or not. And I think a lot don't these days, which is irrelevant.hey just cuz he was great in New Orleans doesnt make him great in Denver. even great coaches make mistakes or fall out of favour.LOL, um, yes it is. You stated "That's a poor job by the experienced Sean Payton", as you lamented his handling off the off-season, adding that the Broncos "did a poor job of predicting who will make the team, start and be what string, and assigning minutes/opportunities related to that". And that "there's a growing number of people rightfully upset...", etc.You mentioned Lil Jordan and Tim Patrick and the FB. The quoted post mentioned Nix. Mims has been well documented this summer. This post is not exactly disagreeable to what I saidMeh. I'm a pretty stalwart Broncos fan and believe that Payton & Co. have done a phenomenal job this offseason. There's a palpable change in team culture and a core of young, hungry, aggressive players on the ascent of their career.Well the Broncos did a poor job of predicting who will make the team, start and be what string, and assigning minutes/opportunities related to thatTo clarify (using Allbright's own words), what Allbright says is "basically" true.x.com
Bo's usage with first string but against second and third string
However, in the first preseason game (Colts), Nix also played primarily with 2nd and 3rd teamers. Only his first out of five series was with first team.
The Packers did sit their starters in the second game, but in the joint practices earlier that week it was 1's vs 1's and Nix showed pretty well.
Obviously anything that occurs in the preseason needs to be taken with a big grain of salt...but Benjamin Allbright is also not the most precise reporter when it comes to making his point.
There's a growing number of people rightfully upset that the guys cut and that left got the bulk of the work over the inexperienced ones. I think it started last year with Lil Jordan and Mims and grew from there in a bothersome way to fans.
That's a poor job by the experienced Sean Payton.
As far as Nix, the QB must have a rapport with the starting WRs which apparently worked out in this messed up summer for them. The other is the backs + TE (safety valve) and the all important OL communication and adjustments.
It could be minimal and everyone is a pros pro here but chances are there are sacks and whoops stuff the first bit of the season that could have been worked out.
From the cut list (below), WR Lil Jordan and FB Michael Burton are the only ones that got cut that significant reps during preseason. But Payton has known all along those guys would clear waivers and, like last year, he could elevate them from the practice squad when needed.
Tim Patrick got significant run in the Packers game but in retrospect that was showcasing for a trade that unfortunately didn't work out.
At QB, none of the players would have respected Nix in the huddle if he didn't earn it right in front of their eyes. Yes, that required Stidham to getting some first team reps but it came with the huge benefit that now everyone in the locker room is bought in. No different than multiple other positional competitions held this summer.
This team is finally being built the right way IMO.
Broncos Cut List
First of all, it's funny that you actually think a coach like Sean Payton doesn't know what he's doing. Sorry his actions aren't helpful to Super FF Fans, but please note; He could not care less.
And thinking your post is "not exactly disagreeable" to Stoneworker's is also bonkers. What SW said was in direct contrast to the picture you tried to paint. A guy that follows the Broncos closely stated that "This team is finally being built the right way". Your post was anything but that.
not saying thats what's happening here, but I think it would be foolish to assume he cant make a mistake. people said the same about Belichek and he finally got his arse fired. so it happens.
well they say real change starts with the culture you create. Maybe there is something good going on. We will know soon enough.I agree with that and Bill B is a good example, although I would still take either one over most NFL coaches. Like top 10. Simply must have a good qb, duh, for starters. We'll see if Nix is any good and what/how he does with him. Regardless, I am pretty sure a culture change in Denver has taken place, and easily for the better, like Payton or not. And I think a lot don't these days, which is irrelevant.hey just cuz he was great in New Orleans doesnt make him great in Denver. even great coaches make mistakes or fall out of favour.LOL, um, yes it is. You stated "That's a poor job by the experienced Sean Payton", as you lamented his handling off the off-season, adding that the Broncos "did a poor job of predicting who will make the team, start and be what string, and assigning minutes/opportunities related to that". And that "there's a growing number of people rightfully upset...", etc.You mentioned Lil Jordan and Tim Patrick and the FB. The quoted post mentioned Nix. Mims has been well documented this summer. This post is not exactly disagreeable to what I saidMeh. I'm a pretty stalwart Broncos fan and believe that Payton & Co. have done a phenomenal job this offseason. There's a palpable change in team culture and a core of young, hungry, aggressive players on the ascent of their career.Well the Broncos did a poor job of predicting who will make the team, start and be what string, and assigning minutes/opportunities related to thatTo clarify (using Allbright's own words), what Allbright says is "basically" true.x.com
Bo's usage with first string but against second and third string
However, in the first preseason game (Colts), Nix also played primarily with 2nd and 3rd teamers. Only his first out of five series was with first team.
The Packers did sit their starters in the second game, but in the joint practices earlier that week it was 1's vs 1's and Nix showed pretty well.
Obviously anything that occurs in the preseason needs to be taken with a big grain of salt...but Benjamin Allbright is also not the most precise reporter when it comes to making his point.
There's a growing number of people rightfully upset that the guys cut and that left got the bulk of the work over the inexperienced ones. I think it started last year with Lil Jordan and Mims and grew from there in a bothersome way to fans.
That's a poor job by the experienced Sean Payton.
As far as Nix, the QB must have a rapport with the starting WRs which apparently worked out in this messed up summer for them. The other is the backs + TE (safety valve) and the all important OL communication and adjustments.
It could be minimal and everyone is a pros pro here but chances are there are sacks and whoops stuff the first bit of the season that could have been worked out.
From the cut list (below), WR Lil Jordan and FB Michael Burton are the only ones that got cut that significant reps during preseason. But Payton has known all along those guys would clear waivers and, like last year, he could elevate them from the practice squad when needed.
Tim Patrick got significant run in the Packers game but in retrospect that was showcasing for a trade that unfortunately didn't work out.
At QB, none of the players would have respected Nix in the huddle if he didn't earn it right in front of their eyes. Yes, that required Stidham to getting some first team reps but it came with the huge benefit that now everyone in the locker room is bought in. No different than multiple other positional competitions held this summer.
This team is finally being built the right way IMO.
Broncos Cut List
First of all, it's funny that you actually think a coach like Sean Payton doesn't know what he's doing. Sorry his actions aren't helpful to Super FF Fans, but please note; He could not care less.
And thinking your post is "not exactly disagreeable" to Stoneworker's is also bonkers. What SW said was in direct contrast to the picture you tried to paint. A guy that follows the Broncos closely stated that "This team is finally being built the right way". Your post was anything but that.
not saying thats what's happening here, but I think it would be foolish to assume he cant make a mistake. people said the same about Belichek and he finally got his arse fired. so it happens.
goose_egged
Footballguy
Can't believe how late Nix is going in both keeper and redraft superflex leagues given his rushing. If he stays upright he could easily finish in the top-5 in QB rush yards and TDs.
Denver seems to be in one of those tailspins where they are always rebuilding yet not rebuilding and that usually makes for predictably poor FF results. Also usually about bad play in the trenches.
Javonte hasn't lived up to expectations, Jeudy didn't, Wilson didn't, a couple TEs didn't, their WRs seem to always get hurt...it's like a curse til some QB comes in and rights the ship and they hit on some linemen. If Nix can do what Baker did or Burrow or even Mariota that'll change everything for this franchise and for FF. People are just waiting for it to happen.
Lot of hope for Nix but he's gotta do it first.
This post was a little long, a WR may have been injured while you were reading it.
Truebluey
Footballguy
He's not wrong. Our franchise has been a train wreck. Don't have to be bitter to see that.
General Malaise
Footballguy
As an outsider who was very critical of Denver last year and the year prior, I see reason for optimism. Coach and QB have to be in simpatico and that wasn't the case last year at all. Payton did not like Wilson at all. That was NOT his guy. The Hackett hire was one of the worst coaching hires I've seen since Jim Tom Sula and Freddy Kitchens. Just a horrible hire.
So, if I'm a Denver fan, I'm excited to see how this plays out. The goal also shouldn't be playoffs or bust, just show improvement and a trend in the right direction. Last season was rudderless. The season prior was an abortion.
you are absolutely correct... "...has been..."
We all love John Elway but his band-aids at QB destroyed our team. Sean Payton is going the exact opposite direction, one that most of us have really wanted. Now that we're heading the right way, it might be time to let go of the (recent) past?
exactly right on all accounts. our GM made some serious failures and I'm shocked he's still with the team. However, he now "answers" to the HC who knows how to move the team forward.
funny/frustrating side note on Wilson... OL on local radio played for denver, but also with Wilson in SEA. He spoke to current OL last year about how Wilson managed the line of scrimage and realized that his friends on the current OL were describing calls and signals that Denver does NOT use, but was used in SEA! Wilson was literally not on the same page with anyone.
yes, I'm not focused on a winning season at all, just significant movement in the right direction.
No, it's August, wha?
Hooper31
Footballguy
He beat Tre Brown down the left sideline once on a nice throw, but that was it. The three starting Seattle CBs might contend for the best trio in the league (Witherspoon, Woolen, and Brown). Nix had a rough outing. I would be careful to base an assessment of Nix based largely on the game yesterday.
Stoneworker
Footballguy
I'll bet no one had this on their bingo card for week 1...
- Denver Broncos rookie quarterback Bo Nix was the NFL’s second-fastest ball carrier in Week 1, according to NFL Next Gen Stats.
- Nix hit 20.05 mph on his 23-yard run the fourth quarter of Sunday's 26-20 loss to the Seattle Seahawks.
- The fastest running play in Week 1 featured Houston Texans wide receiver Tank Dell, who hit 20.09 mph on a 17-yard rush.
- Denver Broncos rookie quarterback Bo Nix was the NFL’s second-fastest ball carrier in Week 1, according to NFL Next Gen Stats.
- Nix hit 20.05 mph on his 23-yard run the fourth quarter of Sunday's 26-20 loss to the Seattle Seahawks.
- The fastest running play in Week 1 featured Houston Texans wide receiver Tank Dell, who hit 20.09 mph on a 17-yard rush.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Who is the backup right now? Going to need to back this kid up. It is, uh, not going well.
Stoneworker
Footballguy
Nix currently has better comp %, QB rating, fewer sacks and fumbles and more pass yds, rush yds, and TD's than Caleb Williams. Williams has better INT stats.
Are we benching Williams too?
Are we benching Williams too?
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General Malaise
Footballguy
I don't want the Broncos the bench Nix, I'm a fan and I invested in him accordingly. But....this is the NFL and Payton has a job to keep. Another outing like this, would it be a real head-scratcher if Payton went to his bullpen?
Stoneworker
Footballguy
IMO, yes. This year is all about developing Nix. He won't get that without regular season reps. If Nix begins to lose confidence (or the locker room), then I could see sitting him down. But no signs of that at all.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
If you start him week one you can’t really go back and bench him later.
NE did it smart.
NE did it smart.
Nix has faced 2 good secondaries, SEA & PIT. Coming up TB & NJY. Then it gets easier. Still wait and see if Payton can work Brees-like magic.Is Nix the main problem, tho? Seems the offense around him is lacking talent. I've only watched high(low)lights of the last two weeks, so.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Alright, well....hope you're right. I am still a believer and the NFL has a way of making even the best rookie look terrible. In a Flex league that allows up for up to 3QBs in the starting line-up, I've got Tua, Love and Nix. Things aren't going great, but I have to continue believing in him. At least for this week and probably longer.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Is Nix the main problem, tho? Seems the offense around him is lacking talent. I've only watched high(low)lights of the last two weeks, so
His top target has been Josh Reynolds, so......
Stoneworker
Footballguy
Nix has had two RZ interceptions that were both atrocious, but the entire offense and play-calling has been anemic.Is Nix the main problem, tho? Seems the offense around him is lacking talent. I've only watched high(low)lights of the last two weeks, so
Penalties (T-4th most), drops (TE Dulcich alone had two last week) and an inept running attack. No sugar-coating it hasn't been good and much of that is on Payton.
That said, Kirk Cousins also struggled mightily Wk 1 against PIT so the opposing defenses have been stout. Hard to draw conclusions just yet IMO
need2know
Footballguy
They both have been terrible
The Frankman
Footballguy
Donnybrook
Footballguy
Bo Nix is setting all kinds of NFL QB records:
Nix completed 48% of his passes for 60 yards with 1 touchdown in the game. At 2.4 yards per attempt, this marks the lowest figure in a win for a QB with at least 25 attempts since 1970.
Nix completed 48% of his passes for 60 yards with 1 touchdown in the game. At 2.4 yards per attempt, this marks the lowest figure in a win for a QB with at least 25 attempts since 1970.
General Malaise
Footballguy
That first half was....woooooooooof. Looked like he was throwing a bowling ball out there.
TBF, it's not like future Hall of Famer was much better on the day. On top of rather pedestrian numbers in the loss with ZERO TDs, Rodgers was sacked 5 times to Nix 0.
Not easy playing in a monsoon I guess.
Stoneworker
Footballguy
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Trash.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
That said he’s probably my hurts bye week replacement lol
Could do worse than playing Las Vegas at home
CGRdrJoe
Footballguy
great take
massraider
Footballguy
Pfft.
It was misty and wet, it was not a windy day with huge amounts of heavy rain. Shoot, in Oregon, you guys probably wouldn't even say it was raining.
I have no idea why the announcers were banging on about the weather. It wasn't mist collecting on the football that made Nix unable to throw the ball 6 yards, or Rodgers unable to run without moss growing on his north side.
