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QB Cam Ward, TEN (4 Viewers)
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They had clearly scripted plays like "throw it to him" and it was ugly and I just didn't like it. I'm sure they wanted to find out if this WR or that one can cut it but...it's was bad design and the Falcons clearly knew it.
When they didn't do that. He looked like a pretty rookie. Some questionable throws but ya see the talent.
It's gonna be a little rough while he learns but he's oozing with talent.
He made a bad throw to Van Jefferson about three yards out of bounds. He was scrambling and then kind of slowing to a walk and just flicked it. It was so effortless looking and went 50-60 yards.
When they didn't do that. He looked like a pretty rookie. Some questionable throws but ya see the talent.
It's gonna be a little rough while he learns but he's oozing with talent.
He made a bad throw to Van Jefferson about three yards out of bounds. He was scrambling and then kind of slowing to a walk and just flicked it. It was so effortless looking and went 50-60 yards.
It was the play before that.
I can't recall the yardage on the drop in a didn't stand out way. 20?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
One note about these preseason stats - neither Ridley nor Chig was out there.
I’m taking all of this with a big preseason grain of salt. Sure, I’d like to see more from Cam, but I’m also not going to judge purely off of practice reports and a handful of preseason snaps with a makeshift offense.
I’m taking all of this with a big preseason grain of salt. Sure, I’d like to see more from Cam, but I’m also not going to judge purely off of practice reports and a handful of preseason snaps with a makeshift offense.
The Frankman
Footballguy
BLOCKED_PUNT
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BLOCKED_PUNT
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I've wanted this guy but all my dynasty leagues (1QB) are some QB hungry that take him late 1st/early 2nd
There's been a good amount of negativity about Cam or about his usage since the game
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I told ya I saw it as predetermining the first so many passes and where they'd go. He barely played a sincere offense. Several of the QB gurus and film reviewers thought similar to me. He's not looking around and there just isn't many things to guess when a kid suddenly is staring for 7-8 snaps. It was a quarter but because the Falcons had the ball often due to a pick six. It's dramatic if ya call it a quarter but 7-8 passes where pressure is all over the WR to test em...whatever. I didn't like it but it's still a small number.
Van was a lock before the game and questionable after. Was it a wrong bad plan then?
They had two days of practice against the Falcons and starters weren't playing much in preseason.
Ridley does not need reps against second stringers. He battled Terrell for two days.
The Falcons have a yuck media policy that only allows 90seconds of video per day. People didn't see Ridley and ...he got work in.
Cam has been taking first and second team snaps since Levis went out. He likely has the most reps of any QB in the league this summer.
When people say Cam can't make a type of throw, I don't care to even wonder on it. The dude can sling it everywhere and does this sidearm thing too and...I couldn't have less doubt that if there's a throw "he can't make" that give him a few reps and he makes it. He's abnormal in the blessed way. He'll have decision issues, read issues and all sorts that rookies have but there's no way ya watch him and have any concern he can't throw it to a spot a certain way.
Tough on Restrepo.
It's just life and it's tough. Sorry there's no other take than has been said over n over. It will be sad for Cam's personal life if his college buddy is no longer on the team but...just life. We don't keep in touch with everyone from high school or everyone from college. I'd guess those two stay close friends regardless if he's cut. They have a super strong bond. The staff loves Restrepo.
Playing with the fours has always been a sign a guy isn't making the 53.
He still could. I've discussed PS with him. But Ward doesn't need a caddy. It's just tough
Cam Ward Being Mismanaged By Titans Coaches
For the second week in a row, Tennessee Titans head coach Brian Callahan mismanaged starting quarterback and No. 1 draft pick Cam Ward. Friday night against the
I told ya I saw it as predetermining the first so many passes and where they'd go. He barely played a sincere offense. Several of the QB gurus and film reviewers thought similar to me. He's not looking around and there just isn't many things to guess when a kid suddenly is staring for 7-8 snaps. It was a quarter but because the Falcons had the ball often due to a pick six. It's dramatic if ya call it a quarter but 7-8 passes where pressure is all over the WR to test em...whatever. I didn't like it but it's still a small number.
Van was a lock before the game and questionable after. Was it a wrong bad plan then?
They had two days of practice against the Falcons and starters weren't playing much in preseason.
Ridley does not need reps against second stringers. He battled Terrell for two days.
The Falcons have a yuck media policy that only allows 90seconds of video per day. People didn't see Ridley and ...he got work in.
Cam has been taking first and second team snaps since Levis went out. He likely has the most reps of any QB in the league this summer.
When people say Cam can't make a type of throw, I don't care to even wonder on it. The dude can sling it everywhere and does this sidearm thing too and...I couldn't have less doubt that if there's a throw "he can't make" that give him a few reps and he makes it. He's abnormal in the blessed way. He'll have decision issues, read issues and all sorts that rookies have but there's no way ya watch him and have any concern he can't throw it to a spot a certain way.
Tough on Restrepo.
It's just life and it's tough. Sorry there's no other take than has been said over n over. It will be sad for Cam's personal life if his college buddy is no longer on the team but...just life. We don't keep in touch with everyone from high school or everyone from college. I'd guess those two stay close friends regardless if he's cut. They have a super strong bond. The staff loves Restrepo.
Playing with the fours has always been a sign a guy isn't making the 53.
He still could. I've discussed PS with him. But Ward doesn't need a caddy. It's just tough
Cam and Simmons have been playfully jawing at each other since spring.
Apparently today he said too much or crossed a line.
The PR department escorted Simmons to the locker room per PK tweet.
Simmons would later post that they're fine and they're bros. They went fishing together two weeks ago and ...idk I don't think it's anything.
Apparently today he said too much or crossed a line.
The PR department escorted Simmons to the locker room per PK tweet.
Simmons would later post that they're fine and they're bros. They went fishing together two weeks ago and ...idk I don't think it's anything.
He finished preseason only 10 of 19 but no one cares.
Any time he got nervous he then got comfortable.
Any time he made a mistake, he fixed it.
It's been a long long time since I noticed someone so immediate with the mental adjustments.
He was only sacked once
Two sets of reps all summer (Levis') seems to have been great for him.
QB gurus about vomit critiquing his form on some adlib plays but at the same time, oooh he just flicks his wrist like it's nothing.
I don't want that fixed unless he remains comfortable. The Titans "fixing" a guy able to throw it 50 yards effortlessly does not seem the same as Bill Walsh fixing Steve Young. Maybe ya leave that alone
Any time he got nervous he then got comfortable.
Any time he made a mistake, he fixed it.
It's been a long long time since I noticed someone so immediate with the mental adjustments.
He was only sacked once
Two sets of reps all summer (Levis') seems to have been great for him.
QB gurus about vomit critiquing his form on some adlib plays but at the same time, oooh he just flicks his wrist like it's nothing.
I don't want that fixed unless he remains comfortable. The Titans "fixing" a guy able to throw it 50 yards effortlessly does not seem the same as Bill Walsh fixing Steve Young. Maybe ya leave that alone
What Cam thinks about looming roster cuts- God has a plan for everybody
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I think it will be a long year for Ward, but progress is the only thing that matters for 2025.
Yeah we're on sorta regurgitated Q&A now.
Its no one's fault just the way this week works since they got rid of the last preseason game.
How do you get Cam ready for the NFL has become how do you get Cam ready for the Broncos.
Callahan had a good bit today saying 80 percent of a QBs job is to read and take what's given and stay patient. Only 20 percent involves him having to make a big throw or tight window throw. He's not gonna try and over coach Cam. They explain what needs to be done and do things to suit him but ultimately he just has to play the game as he always has.
Cam's Q&A was also much of the same. One thing I thought interesting was he wears big headphones at times to block out noise and get focused. It's not just occasionally on the sideline, but on planes and sitting outside at home and any time he's looking for peace. They're fancy headphones someone gave to him and they've never been charged.
How does he ensure his teammates or staff don't think he's tuning them out? Some of them are the ones that tell him to do it and he said they know he loves them.
Some time later he said "people treat you differently when they know you love them. We're not adversaries here"
I love his demeanor. I'm still in crush mode of course.
It doesn't faze him that Payton said he is gonna test him.
His answer is so much what coaches would say. That's what ya want. It's good when you g guys own mistakes and say they got a do better and all but it's best when they tell you how and it sounds like coach.
So if Cam does mess up in the game then he has the mindset to try and fix it in the game or to try and help himself while watching the film and replaying it back in his head just after.
The thing that I rrrreally like is somehow someway it's gotten out that he was wild in college and teams will try and bait him into risks with the deep ball.
Go right ahead. That could gift us some wins like any big play.
He had 20ish INTs over three years of college and he chucks it so nicely deep.
I'll be surprised if NFL DCs think the same as fan speak but if they do, whew go right ahead.
Young QBs struggle with disguises obviously.
Also though taking so many short passes to have a Brady like efficient ten minute drive. Idk if he's capable of that yet. He likes to show that arm.
A lot of fan talk of Ridley being a decoy and taking Surtain deep. It's not that easy. He'll pass him off to a S for sure. Ridley's gotta man up and Ward has to just accept he's covered some times.
Jarvis Brownlee is an excellent young CB. He may use too much contact and take too many risks giving some people reason to knock him down in rankings, but many think he's a gem. Maybe because it's IDP forum talk, but there were a number of name WRs like Jefferson commenting after games how good he was last year.
All summer, they use Brownlee to test WRs and Ward. Surtain is player of the year type great, but with the Titans young secondary, these WRs and Cam have had their tests for sure.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sutton (Brownlee) has a similar low stat line to Ridley.
Two things stood out all off-season for Ward INTs. The WRs that don't battle for the ball. Maybe some were thinking he wouldn't chuck it maybe it was attitude. The other is the LBs and Safeties "hiding" and sneaking in over the middle.
Coach Mac talked of Ward throwing it to Chig's hip. That's what ya coach. If the TE is moving or the slot is and the defenders are looming or maybe there's just a feel they are. A lot of coaches coach to throw it low and make em dive where only they can catch it. He coached to hit the back hip. Ya can't necessarily lead them over the middle. Hit that hip, they can reach back and adjust.
Talk of get position and Chig needs to and I remember the slots and Mac said Lockett has probably caught 300 passes aimed at his hip.
Ward was firing them and that's uncatchable. If he puts just a little touch on it, they can plant and turn up field right after they catch it and no one's better than Lockett when he was younger.
Dike runs into coverage and into traffic and leads Ward into an INT. The backup TEs are clearly the best as they're old school but the Titans need some speed, Ward does. Dike has to run his routes with predictable speed that Ward can build a rhythm with and he could really break some backs with big plays from the slot but he's gotta learn to play in traffic first.
One scout sorta echoed Coach Mac saying ya wanna know how Callahan and the Titans can help Cam? Create some big plays. They've got some speed finally and Callahan has to use Dike or Jefferson on some plays that will possibly go the distance. Ya know what relaxes a QB? Hitting a 50 yard play and knowing you're in field goal range no matter what happens.
TD talked about the Broncos having a great safety that's susceptible to being moved with Cam's eyes. That's a veteran move but if Ward can do that, if they've got a play to capitalize, they could give him some shots downfield
Go right ahead. That could gift us some wins like any big play.
He had 20ish INTs over three years of college and he chucks it so nicely deep.
I'll be surprised if NFL DCs think the same as fan speak but if they do, whew go right ahead.
Young QBs struggle with disguises obviously.
Also though taking so many short passes to have a Brady like efficient ten minute drive. Idk if he's capable of that yet. He likes to show that arm.
A lot of fan talk of Ridley being a decoy and taking Surtain deep. It's not that easy. He'll pass him off to a S for sure. Ridley's gotta man up and Ward has to just accept he's covered some times.
Jarvis Brownlee is an excellent young CB. He may use too much contact and take too many risks giving some people reason to knock him down in rankings, but many think he's a gem. Maybe because it's IDP forum talk, but there were a number of name WRs like Jefferson commenting after games how good he was last year.
All summer, they use Brownlee to test WRs and Ward. Surtain is player of the year type great, but with the Titans young secondary, these WRs and Cam have had their tests for sure.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sutton (Brownlee) has a similar low stat line to Ridley.
Two things stood out all off-season for Ward INTs. The WRs that don't battle for the ball. Maybe some were thinking he wouldn't chuck it maybe it was attitude. The other is the LBs and Safeties "hiding" and sneaking in over the middle.
Coach Mac talked of Ward throwing it to Chig's hip. That's what ya coach. If the TE is moving or the slot is and the defenders are looming or maybe there's just a feel they are. A lot of coaches coach to throw it low and make em dive where only they can catch it. He coached to hit the back hip. Ya can't necessarily lead them over the middle. Hit that hip, they can reach back and adjust.
Talk of get position and Chig needs to and I remember the slots and Mac said Lockett has probably caught 300 passes aimed at his hip.
Ward was firing them and that's uncatchable. If he puts just a little touch on it, they can plant and turn up field right after they catch it and no one's better than Lockett when he was younger.
Dike runs into coverage and into traffic and leads Ward into an INT. The backup TEs are clearly the best as they're old school but the Titans need some speed, Ward does. Dike has to run his routes with predictable speed that Ward can build a rhythm with and he could really break some backs with big plays from the slot but he's gotta learn to play in traffic first.
One scout sorta echoed Coach Mac saying ya wanna know how Callahan and the Titans can help Cam? Create some big plays. They've got some speed finally and Callahan has to use Dike or Jefferson on some plays that will possibly go the distance. Ya know what relaxes a QB? Hitting a 50 yard play and knowing you're in field goal range no matter what happens.
TD talked about the Broncos having a great safety that's susceptible to being moved with Cam's eyes. That's a veteran move but if Ward can do that, if they've got a play to capitalize, they could give him some shots downfield
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Stat line won’t show it but I thought he looked pretty decent today against a strong defense. He has a cannon. Was not helped at all by his receivers today. Ridley dropped at least a few.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Ridley did him no favors today. That dude can really get into slumps - maybe random, maybe due to his history of mental issues. Either way, it popped up today at the worst times. Ward's stats were poo, but he flashed a bunch against perhaps the best defense in the league. Titans seem to have found a good one.
There's a lot of discussion how the WRa didn't get open so why didn't Callahan sub as he said he would.
They didn't play all three spots as he said they would.
The play calling was atrocious.
We haven't even always known these things definitively with Willis and Levis.
Ward was so relaxed. He didn't force anything.
It was kinda dopey that the RT was subbed and he seemed surprised pressure came from there and ran directly backwards (part of) costing them three points. That was about it.
He did exactly what he's supposed to do. Now fix the rest!
They didn't play all three spots as he said they would.
The play calling was atrocious.
We haven't even always known these things definitively with Willis and Levis.
Ward was so relaxed. He didn't force anything.
It was kinda dopey that the RT was subbed and he seemed surprised pressure came from there and ran directly backwards (part of) costing them three points. That was about it.
He did exactly what he's supposed to do. Now fix the rest!
I'm obsessed with Oliver now. They needed a touchdown so he came in to the game then. Snap, throw, eight yard catch. It was so easy.
Helm had a catch called back due to penalty, little bit later another and then pffff.
If ya push Ward and push him then test him against teams in intrasquad and their backups and test him some more in camp- you have to give him guys he's clearly comfortable with.
Yes Restrepo would be a bit much but I mean as long as they played with and against the first string all summer.
I'm as shocked as anyone about Jefferson success and speed. Why was he blocking like he's in Pittsburgh and running short crossers like he's in Atlanta. Why not what worked this summer?
Chestnut was the backup RB today and they were saying on the radio how he was the blocker/dump pass guy all summer. Well why wasn't he today?
Dike got a carry and none snaps in slot. Lockett had zero production.
Ridley has one catch til midway in the fourth. Glennon had brought up to Callahan how the Bengals moved Chase around and while he only had like 3 for 27 against Surtain, he had 7 for 110 elsewhere- so is that what he planned to do. He said yes and how they've been discussing that and game planning that already. So then why didn't he move around?
Elic looked as advertised. Good looking fourth round WR not quite ready. You sub that in. You get his feet wet and try him in spots. Ya don't start him against one of the best defenses. Amusingly enough he didn't expect to start and after the game he couldn't believe how much he played.
Another shocker was the two TE set.
Ya can't do this to a QB.
Maybe you have Ridley, Oliver, Van, and Gunnar to open the game.
Oh Elic can probably beat that CB? Do it.
Ward could use Lockett's veteran presence, do it.
That safety keeps cheating, Dike could take him deep- do it.
What's the vibe now? Sub to keep it rolling- whoever, wherever, whenever.
That was one of the worst ever offensive performances in team history. How is that possible considering who their flop QBs have been and how many sacks they've allowed some games?
Regular season Callahan must make changes that match Summer Callahan or he will be out of a job really fast
Helm had a catch called back due to penalty, little bit later another and then pffff.
If ya push Ward and push him then test him against teams in intrasquad and their backups and test him some more in camp- you have to give him guys he's clearly comfortable with.
Yes Restrepo would be a bit much but I mean as long as they played with and against the first string all summer.
I'm as shocked as anyone about Jefferson success and speed. Why was he blocking like he's in Pittsburgh and running short crossers like he's in Atlanta. Why not what worked this summer?
Chestnut was the backup RB today and they were saying on the radio how he was the blocker/dump pass guy all summer. Well why wasn't he today?
Dike got a carry and none snaps in slot. Lockett had zero production.
Ridley has one catch til midway in the fourth. Glennon had brought up to Callahan how the Bengals moved Chase around and while he only had like 3 for 27 against Surtain, he had 7 for 110 elsewhere- so is that what he planned to do. He said yes and how they've been discussing that and game planning that already. So then why didn't he move around?
Elic looked as advertised. Good looking fourth round WR not quite ready. You sub that in. You get his feet wet and try him in spots. Ya don't start him against one of the best defenses. Amusingly enough he didn't expect to start and after the game he couldn't believe how much he played.
Another shocker was the two TE set.
Ya can't do this to a QB.
Maybe you have Ridley, Oliver, Van, and Gunnar to open the game.
Oh Elic can probably beat that CB? Do it.
Ward could use Lockett's veteran presence, do it.
That safety keeps cheating, Dike could take him deep- do it.
What's the vibe now? Sub to keep it rolling- whoever, wherever, whenever.
That was one of the worst ever offensive performances in team history. How is that possible considering who their flop QBs have been and how many sacks they've allowed some games?
Regular season Callahan must make changes that match Summer Callahan or he will be out of a job really fast
Callahan said he and Holz didn't put the right players in for certain situations to enable Cam to check down and audible as he wanted. He apologized to Cam
Lol OMG I didn't even think of that. Yeah if Lockett missed much of spring and some camp, two rookies being forcefed...yeah that might have helped if he had the right guys
Lol OMG I didn't even think of that. Yeah if Lockett missed much of spring and some camp, two rookies being forcefed...yeah that might have helped if he had the right guys
Youtube/radio show, trying my best w notes-
BHop is pointing out bad protections were sometimes schematic, sometimes Cam's fault. Broncos kept having DL over the C or C/G and would then move that DL and they weren't prepared for that.
Cam's 2.8 seconds to pass is middle of 32 QBs. He was under pressure often but that's the NFL. He has to get comfy with that timing.
Dike and Lockett, not sure why they were in the game. Did they throw them any passes? They didn't help on Bonito. Brought up Pete Carroll having screens for Lockett because he's so good at catching n go. Why didn't the Titans have some plays to do that?
The subbing not happening discussed.
He thinks Cam felt on an island. The whole game should be constant adjustments and it was like they kept saying make this work.
The Rams are going to bring the same pressure outside- if not better. Expect it. They have to have a better plan. There needs to be some stop watch some count if the rookie WRs aren't where they need to be when they need to be then they're out. Get em frustrated and that's how they learn.
Chig's H-back role why? What good did it do? Where was DMR?
Moore has two defenders on him at the snap all game. Yeah he allowed four pressures but where was the help? Chig was often not it.
The need was there. Why not Chig at FB then?
For Cam's first start, the message was we're going to waste a guy every snap and play 10 on 11. Can't do that to him.
In camp Cam audibles to three WR on one side. He liked it. It worked. Why did they seem to take that away?
Did Cam have the latitude to move Chig? Give him that. It won't change much with most play calls. We'll learn a lot by where he thinks pressure is coming or what's open.
Absolutely no short game. Nix threw so many 4-5 yard passes. Why are the Titans only going for chunk plays? If they are, then where's Oliver to go up and get it?
Titans had a few end arounds throughout camp. Jefferson and Dike were real good with them. Gotta call plays so the Broncos DL can't just pin their ears back.
If they're running and everyone in the stadium knows it, then put DMR and Oliver and Jefferson in. On some runs, the half effort by Lockett and Chig and Elic was despicable. Lockett should not be in the game to block. That is not why he's there. You can't let Broncos run free and expect any success. If I were Pollard, I'd have been pissed off. But what maybe ya didn't see is the happy defenders getting in Cam's ear because they easily made a play. Run plays can hurt a QB if they can do that. There's jawing, there is, but not that often. Cam knows that defender doesn't belong back there talking to him.
Some legitimacy to the GM called that game, Cally calling it to keep his job and appease. He can't. He just has to do what he preaches and what they know or he'll be fired quick. They see the DC. He can't take over and say "do what you worked on all summer?"
Bottom line is Cam has to be able to get the ball from point A to point B and we all have issues with every point B right now. Even Ridley. Gunnar was good early maybe he was ok. Did Pollard catch any? There were no point Bs!
Announcers pointing out a few amazing throws. Those were ordinary plays. He shouldn't have to do that.
What's his name? Indy guy that walked off? Get Cam some point Bs or he might walk off one week.
BHop is pointing out bad protections were sometimes schematic, sometimes Cam's fault. Broncos kept having DL over the C or C/G and would then move that DL and they weren't prepared for that.
Cam's 2.8 seconds to pass is middle of 32 QBs. He was under pressure often but that's the NFL. He has to get comfy with that timing.
Dike and Lockett, not sure why they were in the game. Did they throw them any passes? They didn't help on Bonito. Brought up Pete Carroll having screens for Lockett because he's so good at catching n go. Why didn't the Titans have some plays to do that?
The subbing not happening discussed.
He thinks Cam felt on an island. The whole game should be constant adjustments and it was like they kept saying make this work.
The Rams are going to bring the same pressure outside- if not better. Expect it. They have to have a better plan. There needs to be some stop watch some count if the rookie WRs aren't where they need to be when they need to be then they're out. Get em frustrated and that's how they learn.
Chig's H-back role why? What good did it do? Where was DMR?
Moore has two defenders on him at the snap all game. Yeah he allowed four pressures but where was the help? Chig was often not it.
The need was there. Why not Chig at FB then?
For Cam's first start, the message was we're going to waste a guy every snap and play 10 on 11. Can't do that to him.
In camp Cam audibles to three WR on one side. He liked it. It worked. Why did they seem to take that away?
Did Cam have the latitude to move Chig? Give him that. It won't change much with most play calls. We'll learn a lot by where he thinks pressure is coming or what's open.
Absolutely no short game. Nix threw so many 4-5 yard passes. Why are the Titans only going for chunk plays? If they are, then where's Oliver to go up and get it?
Titans had a few end arounds throughout camp. Jefferson and Dike were real good with them. Gotta call plays so the Broncos DL can't just pin their ears back.
If they're running and everyone in the stadium knows it, then put DMR and Oliver and Jefferson in. On some runs, the half effort by Lockett and Chig and Elic was despicable. Lockett should not be in the game to block. That is not why he's there. You can't let Broncos run free and expect any success. If I were Pollard, I'd have been pissed off. But what maybe ya didn't see is the happy defenders getting in Cam's ear because they easily made a play. Run plays can hurt a QB if they can do that. There's jawing, there is, but not that often. Cam knows that defender doesn't belong back there talking to him.
Some legitimacy to the GM called that game, Cally calling it to keep his job and appease. He can't. He just has to do what he preaches and what they know or he'll be fired quick. They see the DC. He can't take over and say "do what you worked on all summer?"
Bottom line is Cam has to be able to get the ball from point A to point B and we all have issues with every point B right now. Even Ridley. Gunnar was good early maybe he was ok. Did Pollard catch any? There were no point Bs!
Announcers pointing out a few amazing throws. Those were ordinary plays. He shouldn't have to do that.
What's his name? Indy guy that walked off? Get Cam some point Bs or he might walk off one week.
Dan Orlovsky counts eight drops and praises Ward
Cam's family let a reporter shadow them for the day.
His dad is not anything negative publicity hound...nothing like that at all. This was a story idea.
www.foxsports.com
His dad is not anything negative publicity hound...nothing like that at all. This was a story idea.
'We'll Figure It Out': Cam Ward's Family Keeps Showing Up for Titans QB | FOX Sports
Calvin and Patrice Ward have never missed one of their son’s games. Here's what it was like watching Cam's NFL debut with them on Sunday.
www.foxsports.com
massraider
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He just looks like such a natural passer. So accurate. Can't wait to see more
The film/tape guys liked what they witnessed.
Found an analytics/data guy who was not impressed:
Found an analytics/data guy who was not impressed:
I don't have a ton of insight into these stats, but I don't see how can these can both be true
Idk all these as being useful to like really dig into.
Cam fired some and there seems to be debate if he threw too hard and what's on the target, what's Cam's fault?
Rookie QBs especially but many QBs wait as long as they can to throw. This makes the pressure rate stat increase significantly. It's a highly subjective stat but when I did games, I followed my gut here and was aware. Everyone isn't and some bosses have rules like if the defender is close, it's a pressure. I found myself wanting to give the defender credit but not take away from the OL because he was fine. For example, I saw Lamar order a pizza, tip the delivery guy, eat a slice, and then throw and yet there was a pressure credited on that play. Data entry statisticians will debate this stuff all day.
For me and my expertise in watching awful lines and awful quarterbacks as a Titans fan, I go with the time to throw stat.
Cam had 2.8 seconds to throw. That was NFL average. The line was fine. On some he just took too long and of course some sacks were on the line but all in all, fine, normal, average.
I think I give Chig a mulligan for his drop. It's tough to reach down while running and fingertip grab.
There really weren't many off target at all.
He's a weird thrower sometimes. He plays like he's on a playground having fun. That sidearm stuff while defenders hands are up high...geesh the kid is blessed. I only know Mahomes capable of that. He's a point guard and loves basketball and that's what he's doing- he just adjusted to suit football. Ya fake high and bounce pass into the post. Well it's football so if everyone is high, he sidearms it about medium height. The "Mahomes shouldn't do that it's not proper form" people are now onto Ward. Sure ya coach kids that way- don't do that- but this is the NFL and it looks so slick.
Everyone, everyone, everyone is talking of the offense and the receivers and tight ends. They weren't open. Throw to who? Where? When?
Same POV is being cast at the Broncos because the Titans secondary played great. A lot of people are questioning Sean Payton and Nix and back to Payton.
When Payton recognized the great D, he went with little quick stuff. Yeah it's annoying to see four yard completions but they needed some offense and some rhythm. Callahan didn't help Cam this way.
IIRC Cam was 12 of 28 with eight drops and four throw away. That's oddly good.
112 yards and zero TDs stinks. He's getting some slack because it's his first game and the Broncos are a top defense. That'll wear off soon. Anyone can easily dig into the 112 yards and make that a bad stat but for me it already is awful so why bother. It tells the story fine.
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