QB Case Keenum, HOU (1 Viewer)

[Koya]

Ugh. Kid really looked great early on, but this ride appears to be over.

And while I understand the desire to win every game, regardless of record, can't see how this helps the team long term, unless they just realize there's no chance at all Keenum has a role (as starter or even backup).

You wonder if Yates gets a look, especially if they can't come back this game.

 

[danielmclark]

Where's everyone who laughed at us a few weeks ago for being nervous about Keenum? "Oh, Kubiak will never pull him again!" - really?

 

[Koya]

Where's everyone who laughed at us a few weeks ago for being nervous about Keenum? "Oh, Kubiak will never pull him again!" - really?

Who wasn't nervous? Theres always been that risk since the original pull.

That said, many of us assumed it would be a bit less likely to happen because you cant pull him for a second time and then start him the next week. Unless you are TRYING to ruin the kids confidence and throw him to the wolves.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Whew. Dodged a bullet here. Almost traded Manuel for Keenum +. Instead moved Manuel + 2nd for Foles. Very relieved.

I know, LOOK AT ME! Sorry.

 

[jsharlan]

I think I've seen enough. I don't think Schaub nor Keenum is on the roster next year.

 

[FUBAR]

I think I've seen enough. I don't think Schaub nor Keenum is on the roster next year.

Disagree. Keenum should return, but at this point it's safe to presume he isn't the starter heading into camp. He'll be a decent backup.

I'm just glad I didn't pay anything other than waiver picks for him - and did net a high 1st in one league for him.

 

[jsharlan]

I think I've seen enough. I don't think Schaub nor Keenum is on the roster next year.

Disagree. Keenum should return, but at this point it's safe to presume he isn't the starter heading into camp. He'll be a decent backup.

I'm just glad I didn't pay anything other than waiver picks for him - and did net a high 1st in one league for him.

Sure, he will be a backup, for a veteran starter. If I'm grooming a rookie QB, I want a veteran backup behind him with starting experience. I'd cut Schaub and Keenum and sign a Jason Campbell like QB in the offseason.

 

[Shutout]

Just when I thought I couldn't have been more disappointed in this Texans season....

Absolute absence of having any sense of direction with this franchise. No plan...at all. Let's just react to the other teams each and every week. They played this team just two weeks ago. Two weeks to sit and think about how they were going to improve on that showing. I would have had more confidence had they said on Monday "we will start Shaub because we still haven't fixed what went wrong two weeks ago". At least that would have shown they have worked on this. But instead they just go into the game last night under the same principles as two weeks ago and got the same result. Have they learned nothing?

 

[FUBAR]

I think I've seen enough. I don't think Schaub nor Keenum is on the roster next year.

Disagree. Keenum should return, but at this point it's safe to presume he isn't the starter heading into camp. He'll be a decent backup.

I'm just glad I didn't pay anything other than waiver picks for him - and did net a high 1st in one league for him.

Sure, he will be a backup, for a veteran starter. If I'm grooming a rookie QB, I want a veteran backup behind him with starting experience. I'd cut Schaub and Keenum and sign a Jason Campbell like QB in the offseason.

I wouldn't overpay for a veteran QB. If Campbell is cheap enough, then it makes sense.

 

[Shutout]

I think I've seen enough. I don't think Schaub nor Keenum is on the roster next year.

Disagree. Keenum should return, but at this point it's safe to presume he isn't the starter heading into camp. He'll be a decent backup.

I'm just glad I didn't pay anything other than waiver picks for him - and did net a high 1st in one league for him.

Sure, he will be a backup, for a veteran starter. If I'm grooming a rookie QB, I want a veteran backup behind him with starting experience. I'd cut Schaub and Keenum and sign a Jason Campbell like QB in the offseason.

I wouldn't overpay for a veteran QB. If Campbell is cheap enough, then it makes sense.

WHy wouldn't they just go for one of the rookie QBs? THey will definitely have the pick to do it.

 

[MAC_32]

I think I've seen enough. I don't think Schaub nor Keenum is on the roster next year.

Disagree. Keenum should return, but at this point it's safe to presume he isn't the starter heading into camp. He'll be a decent backup.

I'm just glad I didn't pay anything other than waiver picks for him - and did net a high 1st in one league for him.

New coaching staff, anyone's guess who will be backing up Bridgewater. My guess would be a vet (not Schaub or Keenum) and a 7th round/UDFA rookie to develop.

 

[FUBAR]

I think I've seen enough. I don't think Schaub nor Keenum is on the roster next year.

Disagree. Keenum should return, but at this point it's safe to presume he isn't the starter heading into camp. He'll be a decent backup.

I'm just glad I didn't pay anything other than waiver picks for him - and did net a high 1st in one league for him.

Sure, he will be a backup, for a veteran starter. If I'm grooming a rookie QB, I want a veteran backup behind him with starting experience. I'd cut Schaub and Keenum and sign a Jason Campbell like QB in the offseason.

I wouldn't overpay for a veteran QB. If Campbell is cheap enough, then it makes sense.

WHy wouldn't they just go for one of the rookie QBs? THey will definitely have the pick to do it.

I expect them to. The question here is who would they want as the backup?

 

[jsharlan]

I think I've seen enough. I don't think Schaub nor Keenum is on the roster next year.

Disagree. Keenum should return, but at this point it's safe to presume he isn't the starter heading into camp. He'll be a decent backup.

I'm just glad I didn't pay anything other than waiver picks for him - and did net a high 1st in one league for him.

Sure, he will be a backup, for a veteran starter. If I'm grooming a rookie QB, I want a veteran backup behind him with starting experience. I'd cut Schaub and Keenum and sign a Jason Campbell like QB in the offseason.

I wouldn't overpay for a veteran QB. If Campbell is cheap enough, then it makes sense.

WHy wouldn't they just go for one of the rookie QBs? THey will definitely have the pick to do it.

I was talking about who the backup should be. I expect them to go with a rookie starter next season. I just don't think Keenum should be his backup.

 

[Houston turmOiler]

I don't see any reason to cut Keenum. He is on an undrafted free agent pay scale so even if you just let him compete in camp to be the number 3 you really aren't losing anything. You could easily draft a rookie quarterback and sign a cheap veteran free agent and still keep him. There are worse 3rd stringers around the league.

 

[GregR]

Keenum's contract runs through 2014, so I won't be surprised if they at the least have him into training camp for the start of next year and judge things from there on whether he's worth carrying further.

I agree that I don't see reason to think he should be starting next year. And also agree that if Houston is drafting a rookie to be the long term starter, I'd rather have a veteran backup the rookie can help learn from.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

The Texans announced Case Keenum will start in Week 15 against the Colts.

Coach Gary Kubiak said after Thursday night's loss to the Jaguars that Matt Schaub was an "unbelievable pro" and would be considered for the starting job for the rest of the season. Kubiak was then fired Friday morning. The 2-11 Texans are in full-blown evaluation mode, and it makes no sense to give Schaub anymore starts. His time is likely done in Houston, as well. Keenum has struggled mightily in recent weeks. He won't be a recommended fantasy option.

Related: Matt Schaub

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Interim coach Wade Phillips said he never considered removing Case Keenum from Sunday's loss at Indy.

Keenum was brutal once again, falling to 0-8 as an NFL starter while throwing for just 168 yards with no touchdowns and two interceptions. Matt Schaub could probably perform better, but there's more upside in using the final two games to see if Keenum can be a long-term backup. At this point, we're very skeptical. The Texans have to face a Broncos team coming off a loss in Week 16.


Source: Houston Chronicle

 

[jsharlan]

Keenum isn't the guy. Not sure I want him as the backup either. Not saying he can't be a backup, just that I want some experience behind a rookie starter.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Case Keenum has been diagnosed with a sprained right (throwing) thumb, and is questionable for Week 16.

The Texans are awaiting MRI results. "He'll be evaluated, but it's a concern," were the words of interim coach Wade Phillips on Monday. Phillips also said that Keenum hit "rock bottom" in Sunday's ugly loss to the Colts, but implied he'll be under center for Week 16 if he can get medically cleared. The Texans don't need to see anymore from Matt Schaub, and have apparently determined T.J. Yates isn't worthy of another shot.

Related: Matt Schaub, T.J. Yates

Source: John McClain on Twitter

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Case Keenum lost an average of 10.58 yards on his 19 sacks this season, the highest for any quarterback with at least 200 passing attempts.

That's four more yards than the other 37 quarterbacks who attempted at least 200 passes averaged as a collective. The next highest was Matt McGloin, who lost an average of 8.83 yards on his six sacks. Keenum's staggeringly high number is indicative of a player who didn't know what to do in the face of pressure, and took sacks even after he scrambled to create time. Keenum has undeniable big-play ability, but lacks the overall polish to be more than a No. 2.


Source: CSN Houston

 

[Faust]

Keenum a solid choice for patient Rams

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Rams claimed QB Case Keenum off waivers from the Texans.
Waived by Houston, which decided to go with Ryan Mallett and rookie Tom Savage behind Ryan Fitzpatrick, 26-year-old Keenum is a natural fit behind Shaun Hill in St. Louis with a similar skill set. Keenum is sneaky athletic and willing to throw into tight windows, though he was slow to learn the Texans' offense last year. If 34-year-old Hill's performance goes south, we wouldn't be at all surprised to see Keenum make starts in the Gateway City. Keenum finished 2013 with a 9:6 TD-to-INT ratio across eight starts, though he completed only 54.2 percent of his throws and fumbled six times, losing two. We'd still expect Keenum to pass Austin Davis on the depth chart within a month or so.

Related: Texans

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

CBS' Jason La Canfora says "every expectation" is that Case Keenum will start Sunday's game against the Ravens.

Bill O'Brien isn't tipping his hand between Keenum and Thad Lewis. But Keenum makes more sense as he was with the team throughout the offseason program and training camp before losing his backup job to Tom Savage and Ryan Mallett. However, Keenum was brutal in four preseason games going 28-of-52 (53.8%) for 254 yards (4.88 YPA) with zero touchdowns and two interceptions, good for a 51.3 passer rating. He's not even a two-quarterback league option against a Ravens defense that can cover their secondary woes with a swarming front seven.

Related: Thad Lewis

Source: Jason La Canfora on Twitter
Dec 18 - 9:51 AM

 

[Bri]

I don't know how bad this guy is. He started well and fizzled out. It's surely not certain he stinks.

Throwing to Andre and semi-hot deandre seems like a nice job

 

[Square]

I'm starting the Ravens defense. I have to assume there will be some rust/timing issues. Baltimore's secondary is pretty solid so hopefully they can get a couple INTs. I planned on playing the Rams DST against the Giants but I can't fight the opportunity of playing against a QB that has only been signed for one week.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Case Keenum - QB - Texans

The Texans still haven't announced Case Keenum as their Week 16 starter.

Per multiple reports, Keenum is fully expected to get the nod over Thad Lewis. But Bill O'Brien comes from Bill Belichick's school of secrecy, so the team isn't announcing it.

Dec 21 - 11:46 AM

 

[Txns8]

News?

 

[Mr. Retukes]

News?

He's playing slightly better than Flacco today. So he's got that going for him.

 

[Faust]

Case Keenum to start for Rams; Nick Foles benched

 

[QuizGuy66]

Wow that was random!

-QG

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Is it the scheme or is it Foles that made the Rams offense futile? Obviously, Case Keenum isn't going to generate any fantasy buzz in normal leagues, but in start 2 leagues, he's worth a flyer.

 

[Bri]

Wow that was random!

-QG

Why? Didn't it seem they had to do something, change inevitable like with Peyton?

 

[QuizGuy66]

I suppose - I don't follow the Rams closely enough. Just hard to see Case Keenum as being the answer to this sort of question.

-QG

 

[Bri]

I suppose - I don't follow the Rams closely enough. Just hard to see Case Keenum as being the answer to this sort of question.

-QG

His last year with the Texans they messed him up and tried to limit him too much. Before that and with the Rams last year, he's a slinger. Might get 300 yards but probably going to get 3, 4 INTS too.

Kenny Britt fell off the face of the earth. Quick did, then caught a 37 yarder. Stedman Bailey has less production. It seems to just be Austin and that passing O really needs a kick.

Fisher said that Foles would be back under center, indicating this is temporary

 

[Faust]

NFL examining situation surrounding Case Keenum

 

[Insein]

Seeing the hit, there's no way he should have been allowed near the field with today's supposed protocols. Absolutely ridiculous. He grabbed his head and went limp when his lineman tried to pick him up.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Seeing the hit, there's no way he should have been allowed near the field with today's supposed protocols. Absolutely ridiculous. He grabbed his head and went limp when his lineman tried to pick him up.

As someone posted on another board, "I saw the game in a loud crowded bar. Everyone knew he was concussed from his reaction and the replay. If a room full of drunk idiots knew he had a concussion, how come the paid expert spotter missed it?"

Ditto for Fitz, BTW. He was definitely woozy & didn't know where the #### he was or that he had even just scored a TD. His lineman has to physically turn him toward the Jets bench & tell him it was time to go jog to the bench. The medical staff didn't even look at him, stayed in the game.

 

[Insein]

Seeing the hit, there's no way he should have been allowed near the field with today's supposed protocols. Absolutely ridiculous. He grabbed his head and went limp when his lineman tried to pick him up.

As someone posted on another board, "I saw the game in a loud crowded bar. Everyone knew he was concussed from his reaction and the replay. If a room full of drunk idiots knew he had a concussion, how come the paid expert spotter missed it?"Ditto for Fitz, BTW. He was definitely woozy & didn't know where the #### he was or that he had even just scored a TD. His lineman has to physically turn him toward the Jets bench & tell him it was time to go jog to the bench. The medical staff didn't even look at him, stayed in the game.

Absolute joke.

 

[Joe Summer]

This is all part of a pattern with Jeff Fisher. He hired the Bountygate coach, he created the atmosphere that knocked out Teddy Bridgewater last week, and now he shows total indifference to putting his his own player at risk to suffer permanent brain damage. Just an absolute low class guy. He thinks being "old school" makes him a good coach but it just makes him look like an obsolete relic of the past.

 

[Faust]

Jeff Fisher: I didn't see Case Keenum 'struggle to get up' after helmet hit

 

[Insein]

Jeff Fisher: I didn't see Case Keenum 'struggle to get up' after helmet hit

Bull ####### #### Jeff

 

[Faust]

Rams coach Jeff Fisher says QB Case Keenum will start next Sunday

 

[Faust]

Keenum: Rams coaches treating me like starting QB

 

[Faust]

 

According to ESPN's Ed Werder, there is a "very strong possibility" the Rams start Case Keenum over Jared Goff in Week 1.
Werder said this in response to an Adam Schefter report that Keenum will start the Rams' first preseason game. Goff will likely start the second, and whomever outplays the other figures to start the regular season dress rehearsal in the third week of exhibition games. NFL Network's Steve Wyche reported in June that Keenum might start in Week 1. We weren't buying it then, but Werder's words suggest we should have taken Wyche's story more seriously. Per Werder, the Rams are "curious" to see how Goff performs in preseason games.
 

Related: Jared Goff
 
Source: Ed Werder on Twitter 
Aug 6 - 8:44 AM

 

[Faust]

 

NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reports the Broncos "kept tabs" on Rams QB Case Keenum this summer, and that the sides had trade talks.
It's highly unsurprising, as Keenum broke into the league under coach Gary Kubiak, making eight starts in 2013. Talks presumably broke down once the Rams realized No. 1 overall pick Jared Goff wasn't going to be anywhere near ready for Week 1. Keenum isn't many things, but he's definitely a better option than Trevor Siemian.

 
 
 
Related: Broncos
 
Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter 
Sep 8 - 6:16 PM

 

[Tool]

26/28, 317 yards 3TDs and a rushing touchdown.  Whoa.

 

[pghrob]

If Bradford misses the game today v. Pittsburgh, will Keenum be able to keep Diggs and Thielen fantasy relevant?

 

[King of the Jungle]

If Bradford misses the game today v. Pittsburgh, will Keenum be able to keep Diggs and Thielen fantasy relevant?

I am gambling on it. He has thrown for yards in the past. 

 

[nittanylion]

If Bradford misses the game today v. Pittsburgh, will Keenum be able to keep Diggs and Thielen fantasy relevant?

Good question for Bloom!

 

[ChuckLiddell]

Seems like a viable contrarian DFS play today.  $6K on Fanduel.  Should have next to no ownership.