QB Dak Prescott, DAL (1 Viewer)

[Tanner9919]

Looking at his stats from pro-football-reference.com his numbers from last year were, or nearly were, career lows or career highs ( in a bad way).
2nd lowest QBR
most int's
3rd lowest comp %
missed 16 games ( nearly a full season) since 2020 ( missed games last 3 seasons)
2nd lowest yards/att
2nd lowest avg yards/att
3rd lowest ypg

MAybe this is because of the woefully incompetent Kellen Moore the failed OC now fired, but meet the new boss, Brian Schottenheimer, same as the old boss . McCarthy needs to take over the play calling duties he cannot let this Schotts guy ruin yet another NFL Team. Eric Bienemey wasn't available at the time of the Schotts hiring? Dallas has the look of a 7-10 team, between the Dak's inability to complete passes to guys on his own team, to the utter trash that is Brian Schottenheimer as OC this team is doomed. I watched this dope with the Jets when I was living in NJ what a dreadful coach. just horrible.

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[Faust]

Cowboys QB Dak Prescott confident he won't repeat season with double-digit INTs: 'I know who I am'

 

[massraider]

Dak Prescott | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

Dak Prescott signed a 4 year, $240,000,000 contract with the Dallas Cowboys, including $80,000,000 signing bonus, $231,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $60,000,000. In 2025, Prescott will earn a base salary of $2,000,000 and a restructure bonus of $45,750,000, while...

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The Cowboys are in a bad position on his contract. He has a 59 mill cap number next year, but 61 mill in dead cap. They really really need him to extend his deal and lower that number, but he knows that. They are really going to want a little hometown discount, but he really is in a position to demand favorable terms. The Cowboys cannot play hardball.

Jerry Jones, being the subtle operator that he is, is in full Make Dak Feel Bad Mode. Trades for Lance, and then casually mentions, twice, that he TOTALLY would have taken Jalen Hurts a few years ago "if he had fallen to us".

“I just told you, two years ago we were looking at the Philadelphia quarterback, I don’t want to call any names, but we were looking at him, had he fallen to us there we would have drafted him,” Jones added.

NIce, Jerry, very subtle.

 

[travdogg]

Dak Prescott | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

Dak Prescott signed a 4 year, $240,000,000 contract with the Dallas Cowboys, including $80,000,000 signing bonus, $231,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $60,000,000. In 2025, Prescott will earn a base salary of $2,000,000 and a restructure bonus of $45,750,000, while...

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The Cowboys are in a bad position on his contract. He has a 59 mill cap number next year, but 61 mill in dead cap. They really really need him to extend his deal and lower that number, but he knows that. They are really going to want a little hometown discount, but he really is in a position to demand favorable terms. The Cowboys cannot play hardball.

Jerry Jones, being the subtle operator that he is, is in full Make Dak Feel Bad Mode. Trades for Lance, and then casually mentions, twice, that he TOTALLY would have taken Jalen Hurts a few years ago "if he had fallen to us".

“I just told you, two years ago we were looking at the Philadelphia quarterback, I don’t want to call any names, but we were looking at him, had he fallen to us there we would have drafted him,” Jones added.

NIce, Jerry, very subtle.

I don't see any problem with Jerry Jones saying that. Its only an insult to Dak if you make it one. It could just as easily be, "we wanted him so we wouldn't have to face him twice a year."

Like you said, Dak has almost 60 million reasons to not feel bad. I can't imagine he feels even remotely threatened by Trey Lance.

They really need to lower that number though with Lamb and Parsons extensions coming up.

 

[LawFitz]

The Cowboys are in a bad position on his contract. He has a 59 mill cap number next year, but 61 mill in dead cap. They really really need him to extend his deal and lower that number, but he knows that

POST-6/1 RELEASE
2024 Dead Cap: $25,455,000
2025 Dead Cap: $36,460,000
***2024 Cap Savings: $34,000,000***

 

[massraider]

The Cowboys are in a bad position on his contract. He has a 59 mill cap number next year, but 61 mill in dead cap. They really really need him to extend his deal and lower that number, but he knows that

POST-6/1 RELEASE
2024 Dead Cap: $25,455,000
2025 Dead Cap: $36,460,000
***2024 Cap Savings: $34,000,000***

You showing me how they can cut him?

I don't think that's the end game. They want to extend, and I am sure for less than Herbert/Jackson.

 

[LawFitz]

The Cowboys are in a bad position on his contract. He has a 59 mill cap number next year, but 61 mill in dead cap. They really really need him to extend his deal and lower that number, but he knows that

POST-6/1 RELEASE
2024 Dead Cap: $25,455,000
2025 Dead Cap: $36,460,000
***2024 Cap Savings: $34,000,000***

You showing me how they can cut him?

I don't think that's the end game. They want to extend, and I am sure for less than Herbert/Jackson.

Showing that he doesn’t hold all the cards. And Jerruh added another to his hand in this situation by flipping a fourth for Lance.

 

[massraider]

Showing that he doesn’t hold all the cards.

But he does.

If Jerry cuts him, he'll get a deal for more than 35 mill,which is the new money for Dak next year. Jerry cutting him (and he would have to do it quick to use the cap savings in free agency) isn't really a card Jerry has in his favor.

Can you imagine if Dak was dropped in free agency next year? He'd be visiting Vegas the next day.

 

[LawFitz]

Showing that he doesn’t hold all the cards.

But he does.

If Jerry cuts him, he'll get a deal for more than 35 mill,which is the new money for Dak next year. Jerry cutting him (and he would have to do it quick to use the cap savings in free agency) isn't really a card Jerry has in his favor.

Can you imagine if Dak was dropped in free agency next year? He'd be visiting Vegas the next day.

Dak holds the bigger/better hand, but Jerruh is set up to move on if he demands another top-5 deal next year without playing like a top-5 QB. Lance isn’t a trump card, but he's not an insignificant one either.

 

[Terpman22]

Showing that he doesn’t hold all the cards.

But he does.

If Jerry cuts him, he'll get a deal for more than 35 mill,which is the new money for Dak next year. Jerry cutting him (and he would have to do it quick to use the cap savings in free agency) isn't really a card Jerry has in his favor.

Can you imagine if Dak was dropped in free agency next year? He'd be visiting Vegas the next day.

Dak holds the bigger/better hand, but Jerruh is set up to move on if he demands another top-5 deal next year without playing like a top-5 QB. Lance isn’t a trump card, but he's not an insignificant one either.

I don't believe this. They are in no position to draft anyone next year and Jerry is really gonna look Dak in the eyes and say "Take the deal or we play Lance"

And judging by Dak's comments and how Jerry sort of "put him through the ringer" with his first big contract, I'm guessing Dak would call his bluff and be OK if Jerry were to make a crazy move like cutting Dak.

 

[Boston]

Showing that he doesn’t hold all the cards.

But he does.

If Jerry cuts him, he'll get a deal for more than 35 mill,which is the new money for Dak next year. Jerry cutting him (and he would have to do it quick to use the cap savings in free agency) isn't really a card Jerry has in his favor.

Can you imagine if Dak was dropped in free agency next year? He'd be visiting Vegas the next day.

Dak holds the bigger/better hand, but Jerruh is set up to move on if he demands another top-5 deal next year without playing like a top-5 QB. Lance isn’t a trump card, but he's not an insignificant one either.

Will be fascinating...Jerry has a big ego and many forget he was able to find his last two QBs (Romo and Dak) pretty much out-of-nowhere...would not be surprised if he thinks he can do it again.

 

[Chaka]

Can you imagine if Dak was dropped in free agency next year? He'd be visiting Vegas the next day.

Dak would make a great #2 behind Aidan O'Connell.

 

[Faust]

Marcus Mosher
The Dallas Cowboys are averaging 29.9 PPG with Dak Prescott under center since 2019.

That is the highest PPG among all teams and QBs during that span.

And we still have national media members out there believing Dak isn't good.

https://twitter.com/marcus_mosher/status/1696519310859174266?s=21

 

[Terpman22]

Marcus Mosher
The Dallas Cowboys are averaging 29.9 PPG with Dak Prescott under center since 2019.

That is the highest PPG among all teams and QBs during that span.

And we still have national media members out there believing Dak isn't good.

https://twitter.com/marcus_mosher/status/1696519310859174266?s=21

It's b/c he shrinks in big moments, probs. Getting bounced in the playoffs by the same team 2 years in a row by Jimmy G then Mr Irrelevant while also playing poorly in those games will get you not great media attention. Also probably being the first guy to ever lead the league in INTs while also missing 5 games. Cowboys beats are interesting "Remember how good we were in 2019 though!"

 

[General Malaise]

Reports out of camp are that Dak spent a lot of time in the off-season working on his form tackling. Smart. They'll need it.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Last year Dak had Lamb and……


I’ve been clamoring for the Cowboys to change out their predictable and mistake prone offense for years and they finally did it.

Daks turnovers last year were the anomaly, not the norm, but people have short memories.

Looking forward to this year.

 

[travdogg]

Marcus Mosher
The Dallas Cowboys are averaging 29.9 PPG with Dak Prescott under center since 2019.

That is the highest PPG among all teams and QBs during that span.

And we still have national media members out there believing Dak isn't good.

https://twitter.com/marcus_mosher/status/1696519310859174266?s=21

It's b/c he shrinks in big moments, probs. Getting bounced in the playoffs by the same team 2 years in a row by Jimmy G then Mr Irrelevant while also playing poorly in those games will get you not great media attention. Also probably being the first guy to ever lead the league in INTs while also missing 5 games. Cowboys beats are interesting "Remember how good we were in 2019 though!"

The Cowboys lost to the 49ers (the best defense in the NFL), don't say Dak lost to Jimmy G or Purdy, that's disingenuous and not really accurate.

Dak is a very good QB, anyone who disagrees with that, shouldn't have their opinion taken seriously. Having said that, he's never progressed to great QB, and sometimes fans/media have a tendency to place all blame/credit on QBs (or HCs) the INTs were extremely fluky and not a concern at all, given its a pretty big outlier for his career.

Dak played one of the best games of his career in the playoffs last season, it was just the Tampa game and not the SF game. He played great against the Eagles and Vikings last year as well (who were the NFC's top-2 seeds) just really seems to struggle against the 49ers.

 

[Terpman22]

Marcus Mosher
The Dallas Cowboys are averaging 29.9 PPG with Dak Prescott under center since 2019.

That is the highest PPG among all teams and QBs during that span.

And we still have national media members out there believing Dak isn't good.

https://twitter.com/marcus_mosher/status/1696519310859174266?s=21

It's b/c he shrinks in big moments, probs. Getting bounced in the playoffs by the same team 2 years in a row by Jimmy G then Mr Irrelevant while also playing poorly in those games will get you not great media attention. Also probably being the first guy to ever lead the league in INTs while also missing 5 games. Cowboys beats are interesting "Remember how good we were in 2019 though!"

The Cowboys lost to the 49ers (the best defense in the NFL), don't say Dak lost to Jimmy G or Purdy, that's disingenuous and not really accurate.

Dak is a very good QB, anyone who disagrees with that, shouldn't have their opinion taken seriously. Having said that, he's never progressed to great QB, and sometimes fans/media have a tendency to place all blame/credit on QBs (or HCs) the INTs were extremely fluky and not a concern at all, given its a pretty big outlier for his career.

Dak played one of the best games of his career in the playoffs last season, it was just the Tampa game and not the SF game. He played great against the Eagles and Vikings last year as well (who were the NFC's top-2 seeds) just really seems to struggle against the 49ers.

I hear ya. I actually think Dak is a very good QB. A top 9-12 guy depending what you like. But one that has already reached his ceiling and might not get a chance to duplicate that crazy 37/10 season he had. Since he broke his leg he *definitely* does not really run or threat to anymore like he used to. It makes him a bit more easier to game plan against.

Dak has 11 TD passes in 6 playoff games. 3 came in that rookie year against GB, 4 in that game last year against the Bucs. The other 4 playoff games leaves the other 4 touchdown passes of his playoff career. Like you said, he hasn't become great. People expect QB's to be great in the playoffs, and recency bias is real and all, but I just don't think he is being shortchanged or labeled "underrated" or whatever at this point in his career. I just think he is what he is.

 

[General Malaise]

Marcus Mosher
The Dallas Cowboys are averaging 29.9 PPG with Dak Prescott under center since 2019.

That is the highest PPG among all teams and QBs during that span.

And we still have national media members out there believing Dak isn't good.

https://twitter.com/marcus_mosher/status/1696519310859174266?s=21

It's b/c he shrinks in big moments, probs. Getting bounced in the playoffs by the same team 2 years in a row by Jimmy G then Mr Irrelevant while also playing poorly in those games will get you not great media attention. Also probably being the first guy to ever lead the league in INTs while also missing 5 games. Cowboys beats are interesting "Remember how good we were in 2019 though!"

The Cowboys lost to the 49ers (the best defense in the NFL), don't say Dak lost to Jimmy G or Purdy, that's disingenuous and not really accurate.

Dak is a very good QB, anyone who disagrees with that, shouldn't have their opinion taken seriously. Having said that, he's never progressed to great QB, and sometimes fans/media have a tendency to place all blame/credit on QBs (or HCs) the INTs were extremely fluky and not a concern at all, given its a pretty big outlier for his career.

Dak played one of the best games of his career in the playoffs last season, it was just the Tampa game and not the SF game. He played great against the Eagles and Vikings last year as well (who were the NFC's top-2 seeds) just really seems to struggle against the 49ers.

How in the world do you consider this INT "extremely fluky"? That INT cost Dallas the lead in the 2nd half and likely the game. An absolutely inexcusable call there by the offensive coordinator but Dak cannot try and force that ball in there. That's not fluky, that's just dumb.

 

[travdogg]

Marcus Mosher
The Dallas Cowboys are averaging 29.9 PPG with Dak Prescott under center since 2019.

That is the highest PPG among all teams and QBs during that span.

And we still have national media members out there believing Dak isn't good.

https://twitter.com/marcus_mosher/status/1696519310859174266?s=21

It's b/c he shrinks in big moments, probs. Getting bounced in the playoffs by the same team 2 years in a row by Jimmy G then Mr Irrelevant while also playing poorly in those games will get you not great media attention. Also probably being the first guy to ever lead the league in INTs while also missing 5 games. Cowboys beats are interesting "Remember how good we were in 2019 though!"

The Cowboys lost to the 49ers (the best defense in the NFL), don't say Dak lost to Jimmy G or Purdy, that's disingenuous and not really accurate.

Dak is a very good QB, anyone who disagrees with that, shouldn't have their opinion taken seriously. Having said that, he's never progressed to great QB, and sometimes fans/media have a tendency to place all blame/credit on QBs (or HCs) the INTs were extremely fluky and not a concern at all, given its a pretty big outlier for his career.

Dak played one of the best games of his career in the playoffs last season, it was just the Tampa game and not the SF game. He played great against the Eagles and Vikings last year as well (who were the NFC's top-2 seeds) just really seems to struggle against the 49ers.

How in the world do you consider this INT "extremely fluky"? That INT cost Dallas the lead in the 2nd half and likely the game. An absolutely inexcusable call there by the offensive coordinator but Dak cannot try and force that ball in there. That's not fluky, that's just dumb.

I'm talking about leading the league, not one in particular.

 

[LawFitz]

Last year Dak had Lamb and……

I’ve been clamoring for the Cowboys to change out their predictable and mistake prone offense for years and they finally did it.

100%

Dak now has Cooks, a healthy Gallup and a 2nd yr Tolbert to fill out his weapons list. And he has the subtle pressure of having to perform like an elite QB this year to keep his elite contract and perhaps even his place on this team. I foresee him stepping up big with his seat a bit hotter than it has been.

 

[General Malaise]

Marcus Mosher
The Dallas Cowboys are averaging 29.9 PPG with Dak Prescott under center since 2019.

That is the highest PPG among all teams and QBs during that span.

And we still have national media members out there believing Dak isn't good.

https://twitter.com/marcus_mosher/status/1696519310859174266?s=21

It's b/c he shrinks in big moments, probs. Getting bounced in the playoffs by the same team 2 years in a row by Jimmy G then Mr Irrelevant while also playing poorly in those games will get you not great media attention. Also probably being the first guy to ever lead the league in INTs while also missing 5 games. Cowboys beats are interesting "Remember how good we were in 2019 though!"

The Cowboys lost to the 49ers (the best defense in the NFL), don't say Dak lost to Jimmy G or Purdy, that's disingenuous and not really accurate.

Dak is a very good QB, anyone who disagrees with that, shouldn't have their opinion taken seriously. Having said that, he's never progressed to great QB, and sometimes fans/media have a tendency to place all blame/credit on QBs (or HCs) the INTs were extremely fluky and not a concern at all, given its a pretty big outlier for his career.

Dak played one of the best games of his career in the playoffs last season, it was just the Tampa game and not the SF game. He played great against the Eagles and Vikings last year as well (who were the NFC's top-2 seeds) just really seems to struggle against the 49ers.

How in the world do you consider this INT "extremely fluky"? That INT cost Dallas the lead in the 2nd half and likely the game. An absolutely inexcusable call there by the offensive coordinator but Dak cannot try and force that ball in there. That's not fluky, that's just dumb.

I'm talking about leading the league, not one in particular.

As a fan, I hope you're right. But I have some serious doubts about his ability to clean that up.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Marcus Mosher
The Dallas Cowboys are averaging 29.9 PPG with Dak Prescott under center since 2019.

That is the highest PPG among all teams and QBs during that span.

And we still have national media members out there believing Dak isn't good.

https://twitter.com/marcus_mosher/status/1696519310859174266?s=21

It's b/c he shrinks in big moments, probs. Getting bounced in the playoffs by the same team 2 years in a row by Jimmy G then Mr Irrelevant while also playing poorly in those games will get you not great media attention. Also probably being the first guy to ever lead the league in INTs while also missing 5 games. Cowboys beats are interesting "Remember how good we were in 2019 though!"

The Cowboys lost to the 49ers (the best defense in the NFL), don't say Dak lost to Jimmy G or Purdy, that's disingenuous and not really accurate.

Dak is a very good QB, anyone who disagrees with that, shouldn't have their opinion taken seriously. Having said that, he's never progressed to great QB, and sometimes fans/media have a tendency to place all blame/credit on QBs (or HCs) the INTs were extremely fluky and not a concern at all, given its a pretty big outlier for his career.

Dak played one of the best games of his career in the playoffs last season, it was just the Tampa game and not the SF game. He played great against the Eagles and Vikings last year as well (who were the NFC's top-2 seeds) just really seems to struggle against the 49ers.

How in the world do you consider this INT "extremely fluky"? That INT cost Dallas the lead in the 2nd half and likely the game. An absolutely inexcusable call there by the offensive coordinator but Dak cannot try and force that ball in there. That's not fluky, that's just dumb.

The best part of that video is the derpy look McCarthy has when the camera cuts to him.

 

[travdogg]

Marcus Mosher
The Dallas Cowboys are averaging 29.9 PPG with Dak Prescott under center since 2019.

That is the highest PPG among all teams and QBs during that span.

And we still have national media members out there believing Dak isn't good.

https://twitter.com/marcus_mosher/status/1696519310859174266?s=21

It's b/c he shrinks in big moments, probs. Getting bounced in the playoffs by the same team 2 years in a row by Jimmy G then Mr Irrelevant while also playing poorly in those games will get you not great media attention. Also probably being the first guy to ever lead the league in INTs while also missing 5 games. Cowboys beats are interesting "Remember how good we were in 2019 though!"

The Cowboys lost to the 49ers (the best defense in the NFL), don't say Dak lost to Jimmy G or Purdy, that's disingenuous and not really accurate.

Dak is a very good QB, anyone who disagrees with that, shouldn't have their opinion taken seriously. Having said that, he's never progressed to great QB, and sometimes fans/media have a tendency to place all blame/credit on QBs (or HCs) the INTs were extremely fluky and not a concern at all, given its a pretty big outlier for his career.

Dak played one of the best games of his career in the playoffs last season, it was just the Tampa game and not the SF game. He played great against the Eagles and Vikings last year as well (who were the NFC's top-2 seeds) just really seems to struggle against the 49ers.

How in the world do you consider this INT "extremely fluky"? That INT cost Dallas the lead in the 2nd half and likely the game. An absolutely inexcusable call there by the offensive coordinator but Dak cannot try and force that ball in there. That's not fluky, that's just dumb.

I'm talking about leading the league, not one in particular.

As a fan, I hope you're right. But I have some serious doubts about his ability to clean that up.

He only had 1 season being in the top-10 in the NFL in INT's before last year, and that was in his 2nd season in 2017, when Zeke was suspended, and the top-3 pass catchers were a breaking down Dez, end of career Witten, and Terrance Williams. Even then it was 7th most, 9 less than the league leader.

 

[General Malaise]

Marcus Mosher
The Dallas Cowboys are averaging 29.9 PPG with Dak Prescott under center since 2019.

That is the highest PPG among all teams and QBs during that span.

And we still have national media members out there believing Dak isn't good.

https://twitter.com/marcus_mosher/status/1696519310859174266?s=21

It's b/c he shrinks in big moments, probs. Getting bounced in the playoffs by the same team 2 years in a row by Jimmy G then Mr Irrelevant while also playing poorly in those games will get you not great media attention. Also probably being the first guy to ever lead the league in INTs while also missing 5 games. Cowboys beats are interesting "Remember how good we were in 2019 though!"

The Cowboys lost to the 49ers (the best defense in the NFL), don't say Dak lost to Jimmy G or Purdy, that's disingenuous and not really accurate.

Dak is a very good QB, anyone who disagrees with that, shouldn't have their opinion taken seriously. Having said that, he's never progressed to great QB, and sometimes fans/media have a tendency to place all blame/credit on QBs (or HCs) the INTs were extremely fluky and not a concern at all, given its a pretty big outlier for his career.

Dak played one of the best games of his career in the playoffs last season, it was just the Tampa game and not the SF game. He played great against the Eagles and Vikings last year as well (who were the NFC's top-2 seeds) just really seems to struggle against the 49ers.

How in the world do you consider this INT "extremely fluky"? That INT cost Dallas the lead in the 2nd half and likely the game. An absolutely inexcusable call there by the offensive coordinator but Dak cannot try and force that ball in there. That's not fluky, that's just dumb.

I'm talking about leading the league, not one in particular.

As a fan, I hope you're right. But I have some serious doubts about his ability to clean that up.

He only had 1 season being in the top-10 in the NFL in INT's before last year, and that was in his 2nd season in 2017, when Zeke was suspended, and the top-3 pass catchers were a breaking down Dez, end of career Witten, and Terrance Williams. Even then it was 7th most, 9 less than the league leader.

You can be a Dak believer and make excuses for his INT rate spiking to obscene levels and that is fine. He certainly has had some regular season success and has put up some nice TD numbers.

I, however, view him quite differently. That INT against SFO was the final straw for me. Elite QBs don't make that throw in that game in that situation. Careless. Just utterly careless.

 

[Pots]

Marcus Mosher
The Dallas Cowboys are averaging 29.9 PPG with Dak Prescott under center since 2019.

That is the highest PPG among all teams and QBs during that span.

And we still have national media members out there believing Dak isn't good.

https://twitter.com/marcus_mosher/status/1696519310859174266?s=21

It's b/c he shrinks in big moments, probs. Getting bounced in the playoffs by the same team 2 years in a row by Jimmy G then Mr Irrelevant while also playing poorly in those games will get you not great media attention. Also probably being the first guy to ever lead the league in INTs while also missing 5 games. Cowboys beats are interesting "Remember how good we were in 2019 though!"

The Cowboys lost to the 49ers (the best defense in the NFL), don't say Dak lost to Jimmy G or Purdy, that's disingenuous and not really accurate.

Dak is a very good QB, anyone who disagrees with that, shouldn't have their opinion taken seriously. Having said that, he's never progressed to great QB, and sometimes fans/media have a tendency to place all blame/credit on QBs (or HCs) the INTs were extremely fluky and not a concern at all, given its a pretty big outlier for his career.

Dak played one of the best games of his career in the playoffs last season, it was just the Tampa game and not the SF game. He played great against the Eagles and Vikings last year as well (who were the NFC's top-2 seeds) just really seems to struggle against the 49ers.

How in the world do you consider this INT "extremely fluky"? That INT cost Dallas the lead in the 2nd half and likely the game. An absolutely inexcusable call there by the offensive coordinator but Dak cannot try and force that ball in there. That's not fluky, that's just dumb.

I'm talking about leading the league, not one in particular.

As a fan, I hope you're right. But I have some serious doubts about his ability to clean that up.

He only had 1 season being in the top-10 in the NFL in INT's before last year, and that was in his 2nd season in 2017, when Zeke was suspended, and the top-3 pass catchers were a breaking down Dez, end of career Witten, and Terrance Williams. Even then it was 7th most, 9 less than the league leader.

You can be a Dak believer and make excuses for his INT rate spiking to obscene levels and that is fine. He certainly has had some regular season success and has put up some nice TD numbers.

I, however, view him quite differently. That INT against SFO was the final straw for me. Elite QBs don't make that throw in that game in that situation. Careless. Just utterly careless.

Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, Dan Marino, and many more elite QBs would disagree with you.

 

[travdogg]

Marcus Mosher
The Dallas Cowboys are averaging 29.9 PPG with Dak Prescott under center since 2019.

That is the highest PPG among all teams and QBs during that span.

And we still have national media members out there believing Dak isn't good.

https://twitter.com/marcus_mosher/status/1696519310859174266?s=21

It's b/c he shrinks in big moments, probs. Getting bounced in the playoffs by the same team 2 years in a row by Jimmy G then Mr Irrelevant while also playing poorly in those games will get you not great media attention. Also probably being the first guy to ever lead the league in INTs while also missing 5 games. Cowboys beats are interesting "Remember how good we were in 2019 though!"

The Cowboys lost to the 49ers (the best defense in the NFL), don't say Dak lost to Jimmy G or Purdy, that's disingenuous and not really accurate.

Dak is a very good QB, anyone who disagrees with that, shouldn't have their opinion taken seriously. Having said that, he's never progressed to great QB, and sometimes fans/media have a tendency to place all blame/credit on QBs (or HCs) the INTs were extremely fluky and not a concern at all, given its a pretty big outlier for his career.

Dak played one of the best games of his career in the playoffs last season, it was just the Tampa game and not the SF game. He played great against the Eagles and Vikings last year as well (who were the NFC's top-2 seeds) just really seems to struggle against the 49ers.

How in the world do you consider this INT "extremely fluky"? That INT cost Dallas the lead in the 2nd half and likely the game. An absolutely inexcusable call there by the offensive coordinator but Dak cannot try and force that ball in there. That's not fluky, that's just dumb.

I'm talking about leading the league, not one in particular.

As a fan, I hope you're right. But I have some serious doubts about his ability to clean that up.

He only had 1 season being in the top-10 in the NFL in INT's before last year, and that was in his 2nd season in 2017, when Zeke was suspended, and the top-3 pass catchers were a breaking down Dez, end of career Witten, and Terrance Williams. Even then it was 7th most, 9 less than the league leader.

You can be a Dak believer and make excuses for his INT rate spiking to obscene levels and that is fine. He certainly has had some regular season success and has put up some nice TD numbers.

I, however, view him quite differently. That INT against SFO was the final straw for me. Elite QBs don't make that throw in that game in that situation. Careless. Just utterly careless.

Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, Dan Marino, and many more elite QBs would disagree with you.

I was gonna say, I've seen Josh Allen make some really boneheaded throws these last 3 years, and he's been an MVP candidate each of those years.

 

[General Malaise]

Well, when Dak makes it to a conference championship game perhaps I'll revisit on him. Until then, I'm not a believer. Starting to wonder if Jerry Jones is having second thoughts as well.....

 

[dickey moe]

Well, when Dak makes it to a conference championship game perhaps I'll revisit on him. Until then, I'm not a believer. Starting to wonder if Jerry Jones is having second thoughts as well.....

This is pretty much where I sit. Dak is a good dude, and easy to root for, but he's yet to show us that he's any more than Romo 2.0. Hope he proves me wrong.

 

[travdogg]

Well, when Dak makes it to a conference championship game perhaps I'll revisit on him. Until then, I'm not a believer. Starting to wonder if Jerry Jones is having second thoughts as well.....

This is pretty much where I sit. Dak is a good dude, and easy to root for, but he's yet to show us that he's any more than Romo 2.0. Hope he proves me wrong.

Take it from a Bears fan, it could be A TON WORSE!!!!!!!!

Since 2006, have there been 5 teams in the NFL who have had better QB situations than Dallas? Romo right into Dak. Packers, Patriots, Chargers, Saints and maybe Colts I guess, who else has had it better at QB?

 

[FFWhiskey]

Dak should be awesome this year. Their defense should be great but not sure they have a running back to grind things out.

Love Pollard but the last thing you want to do is run him into the ground. Lots of passing, dumpoffs, etc.

 

[Chaka]

Marcus Mosher
The Dallas Cowboys are averaging 29.9 PPG with Dak Prescott under center since 2019.

That is the highest PPG among all teams and QBs during that span.

And we still have national media members out there believing Dak isn't good.

https://twitter.com/marcus_mosher/status/1696519310859174266?s=21

It's b/c he shrinks in big moments, probs. Getting bounced in the playoffs by the same team 2 years in a row by Jimmy G then Mr Irrelevant while also playing poorly in those games will get you not great media attention. Also probably being the first guy to ever lead the league in INTs while also missing 5 games. Cowboys beats are interesting "Remember how good we were in 2019 though!"

The Cowboys lost to the 49ers (the best defense in the NFL), don't say Dak lost to Jimmy G or Purdy, that's disingenuous and not really accurate.

Dak is a very good QB, anyone who disagrees with that, shouldn't have their opinion taken seriously. Having said that, he's never progressed to great QB, and sometimes fans/media have a tendency to place all blame/credit on QBs (or HCs) the INTs were extremely fluky and not a concern at all, given its a pretty big outlier for his career.

Dak played one of the best games of his career in the playoffs last season, it was just the Tampa game and not the SF game. He played great against the Eagles and Vikings last year as well (who were the NFC's top-2 seeds) just really seems to struggle against the 49ers.

How in the world do you consider this INT "extremely fluky"? That INT cost Dallas the lead in the 2nd half and likely the game. An absolutely inexcusable call there by the offensive coordinator but Dak cannot try and force that ball in there. That's not fluky, that's just dumb.

I'm talking about leading the league, not one in particular.

As a fan, I hope you're right. But I have some serious doubts about his ability to clean that up.

He only had 1 season being in the top-10 in the NFL in INT's before last year, and that was in his 2nd season in 2017, when Zeke was suspended, and the top-3 pass catchers were a breaking down Dez, end of career Witten, and Terrance Williams. Even then it was 7th most, 9 less than the league leader.

You can be a Dak believer and make excuses for his INT rate spiking to obscene levels and that is fine. He certainly has had some regular season success and has put up some nice TD numbers.

I, however, view him quite differently. That INT against SFO was the final straw for me. Elite QBs don't make that throw in that game in that situation. Careless. Just utterly careless.

Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, Dan Marino, and many more elite QBs would disagree with you.

Favre is the most overrated QB in NFL history. Dude's Bubby Brister with a John Madden led PR team.

Favre = Not elite

Tony Romo >>>>> Brett Favre

 

[Faust]

Why Dak Prescott isn’t reading into Cowboys trade for Trey Lance as much as you think

 

[King of the Jungle]

Put me in the pro Dak camp this year. He has a great surrounding cast and a good defense to keep the ball in his hands. Cooks provides that deep threat and I like their 4th WR Tolbert to be able to step in and provide playmaking ability if someone ahead of him misses time. Pollard is an asset on dump offs and they have some nice talent at TE. He has a lot to prove this year so he should be very motivated. At ADP I think he is a great target.

 

[Faust]

Cowboys QB Dak Prescott on upset loss to Cardinals: 'It sucks, it's humbling'

 

[Faust]

Next Gen Stats
Dak Prescott completed +10.7% of his passes over expected in Week 4, his 7th game with a CPOE over +10% in a game over the last two seasons.

No other quarterback has more than 5 games with a CPOE over +10% since 2022; only two have more than 3.

#NEvsDAL | #DallasCowboys

https://twitter.com/nextgenstats/status/1708629331277463687?s=21

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Next Gen Stats
Dak Prescott completed +10.7% of his passes over expected in Week 4, his 7th game with a CPOE over +10% in a game over the last two seasons.

No other quarterback has more than 5 games with a CPOE over +10% since 2022; only two have more than 3.

#NEvsDAL | #DallasCowboys

https://twitter.com/nextgenstats/status/1708629331277463687?s=21

And that means what?

 

[zeeshan2]

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones on @1053thefan: “I completely believe we have the quarterback that can take us where we want to go. … Dak Prescott is a quarterback that can get us to the Super Bowl. And that’s the way that’s going to be.”

https://twitter.com/jonmachota/status/1711738510024093894

[Miller] Dak Prescott would count $62 million against the cap if he's released or traded. Very hard to see him going anywhere else next year. Or to see Dallas adding competition that isn't on the roster already.

 

[Terpman22]

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones on @1053thefan: “I completely believe we have the quarterback that can take us where we want to go. … Dak Prescott is a quarterback that can get us to the Super Bowl. And that’s the way that’s going to be.”

https://twitter.com/jonmachota/status/1711738510024093894

[Miller] Dak Prescott would count $62 million against the cap if he's released or traded. Very hard to see him going anywhere else next year. Or to see Dallas adding competition that isn't on the roster already.

 

[Ack88]

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones on @1053thefan: “I completely believe we have the quarterback that can take us where we want to go. … Dak Prescott is a quarterback that can get us to the Super Bowl. And that’s the way that’s going to be.”

https://twitter.com/jonmachota/status/1711738510024093894

[Miller] Dak Prescott would count $62 million against the cap if he's released or traded. Very hard to see him going anywhere else next year. Or to see Dallas adding competition that isn't on the roster already.

Here’s where the rubber meets the road regarding the Cowboys. The evidence and body of work are clear- if Dallas resigns Dak after the end of this contract, it’s game over. The best we can expect is to be good, but never great. 10 and 11 ish types of winning seasons will likely continue, and there are far worse places to be, but there will be no additional Lombardi’s in Dallas.

To me, they play out the next season and a half “as is”. If I’m wrong, I’d be quite happy, but the reality is really quite clear.

They should not commit to an extension unless there is at least a Super Bowl appearance.

Should they not at least get to a Super Bowl in during the life of this contract, it’s time to move on, draft a QB early, see if Lance can develop, and go from there.

The biggest advantage in team sports is getting a QB on a rookie deal. The cap savings are enormous and can allow for building a dominant roster. To be clear, this is not a high probability exercise, but a chance worth taking, especially because Dak is a completely known commodity as a player.

 

[Terpman22]

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones on @1053thefan: “I completely believe we have the quarterback that can take us where we want to go. … Dak Prescott is a quarterback that can get us to the Super Bowl. And that’s the way that’s going to be.”

https://twitter.com/jonmachota/status/1711738510024093894

[Miller] Dak Prescott would count $62 million against the cap if he's released or traded. Very hard to see him going anywhere else next year. Or to see Dallas adding competition that isn't on the roster already.

Here’s where the rubber meets the road regarding the Cowboys. The evidence and body of work are clear- if Dallas resigns Dak after the end of this contract, it’s game over. The best we can expect is to be good, but never great. 10 and 11 ish types of winning seasons will likely continue, and there are far worse places to be, but there will be no additional Lombardi’s in Dallas.

To me, they play out the next season and a half “as is”. If I’m wrong, I’d be quite happy, but the reality is really quite clear.

They should not commit to an extension unless there is at least a Super Bowl appearance.

Should they not at least get to a Super Bowl in during the life of this contract, it’s time to move on, draft a QB early, see if Lance can develop, and go from there.

The biggest advantage in team sports is getting a QB on a rookie deal. The cap savings are enormous and can allow for building a dominant roster. To be clear, this is not a high probability exercise, but a chance worth taking, especially because Dak is a completely known commodity as a player.

If they don't extend him, his cap number is $59M+ next year. Meaning they won't have money to extend one of their superstars like CD or Micah.

I think I'm correct here but I could be wrong.

 

[Ack88]

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones on @1053thefan: “I completely believe we have the quarterback that can take us where we want to go. … Dak Prescott is a quarterback that can get us to the Super Bowl. And that’s the way that’s going to be.”

https://twitter.com/jonmachota/status/1711738510024093894

[Miller] Dak Prescott would count $62 million against the cap if he's released or traded. Very hard to see him going anywhere else next year. Or to see Dallas adding competition that isn't on the roster already.

Here’s where the rubber meets the road regarding the Cowboys. The evidence and body of work are clear- if Dallas resigns Dak after the end of this contract, it’s game over. The best we can expect is to be good, but never great. 10 and 11 ish types of winning seasons will likely continue, and there are far worse places to be, but there will be no additional Lombardi’s in Dallas.

To me, they play out the next season and a half “as is”. If I’m wrong, I’d be quite happy, but the reality is really quite clear.

They should not commit to an extension unless there is at least a Super Bowl appearance.

Should they not at least get to a Super Bowl in during the life of this contract, it’s time to move on, draft a QB early, see if Lance can develop, and go from there.

The biggest advantage in team sports is getting a QB on a rookie deal. The cap savings are enormous and can allow for building a dominant roster. To be clear, this is not a high probability exercise, but a chance worth taking, especially because Dak is a completely known commodity as a player.

If they don't extend him, his cap number is $59M+ next year. Meaning they won't have money to extend one of their superstars like CD or Micah.

I think I'm correct here but I could be wrong.

I thought that cap figure was if he was released or traded. Anyone know?

 

[Terpman22]

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones on @1053thefan: “I completely believe we have the quarterback that can take us where we want to go. … Dak Prescott is a quarterback that can get us to the Super Bowl. And that’s the way that’s going to be.”

https://twitter.com/jonmachota/status/1711738510024093894

[Miller] Dak Prescott would count $62 million against the cap if he's released or traded. Very hard to see him going anywhere else next year. Or to see Dallas adding competition that isn't on the roster already.

Here’s where the rubber meets the road regarding the Cowboys. The evidence and body of work are clear- if Dallas resigns Dak after the end of this contract, it’s game over. The best we can expect is to be good, but never great. 10 and 11 ish types of winning seasons will likely continue, and there are far worse places to be, but there will be no additional Lombardi’s in Dallas.

To me, they play out the next season and a half “as is”. If I’m wrong, I’d be quite happy, but the reality is really quite clear.

They should not commit to an extension unless there is at least a Super Bowl appearance.

Should they not at least get to a Super Bowl in during the life of this contract, it’s time to move on, draft a QB early, see if Lance can develop, and go from there.

The biggest advantage in team sports is getting a QB on a rookie deal. The cap savings are enormous and can allow for building a dominant roster. To be clear, this is not a high probability exercise, but a chance worth taking, especially because Dak is a completely known commodity as a player.

If they don't extend him, his cap number is $59M+ next year. Meaning they won't have money to extend one of their superstars like CD or Micah.

I think I'm correct here but I could be wrong.

I thought that cap figure was if he was released or traded. Anyone know?

Per overthecap.com

Its $88.7 dead cap hit if traded or cut this year
Its $61.9M next year.

 

[Faust]

Next Gen Stats
On 4th & 1, Dak Prescott keeps it on a fake handoff for a 18-yard touchdown. Prescott reached 18.06 mph, his fastest speed of the season as a ball carrier.

The odds of Dak converting a first down after the fake handoff? 85.9%

#DALvsLAC | #DallasCowboys

https://twitter.com/nextgenstats/status/1714080968573677780?s=21

On the very next drive, Dak Prescott reached an even faster speed on an 11-yard scramble run (18.65 mph).

Prescott has reached his two fastest speeds on the season on back-to-back runs.

#DALvsLAC | #DallasCowboys

https://twitter.com/nextgenstats/status/1714081546334835000?s=21

 

[LawFitz]

Hmm, pretty sure I read upthread that Dak doesn't have the wheels to run anymore.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Hmm, pretty sure I read upthread that Dak doesn't have the wheels to run anymore.

I said it. He looked faster last night than he has since that dirty Logan Ryan play. To be fair, he hasn’t been running so how would we know?

He MUST run if the Cowboys will go anywhere. He doesn’t need to do it all the time but enough to make the defense think about it.

It’s one of his biggest strengths, they need to use it.

 

[Faust]

David Helman
That might be the best response to a setback in Dak Prescott's long career.

Worst game of his career last week. The Dallas defense bailed out his late miss, yes. But they don't sniff a win here without him outplaying Justin Herbert. Clutch, clutch performance.

https://twitter.com/davidhelman_/status/1714120354220925107?s=21

 

[Faust]

Cowboys' Mike McCarthy backs Dak Prescott after up-and-down start to 2023 season

 

[Faust]

Will Cowboys use Dak Prescott's legs more often after bye?

 

[Faust]

Dak Prescott putting body on the line for Cowboys' offense