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QB Daniel Jones, IND (2 Viewers)

warpig33 said:
Crazy how CLE gave up on Mayfield...then CAR...then LAR. He was so close to being out of the league. Now he's arguably top 5.
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The Rams didn't give up on him. They had Stafford and no intentions to move on from him.

And, this is the eternal question about Baker (all players, really): would he be the same player we see today if Cleveland didn't give up on him?

IMO Sean McVay + Liam Coen >>>>> Kevin Stefanski + Alex Van Pelt

Maybe Daniel Jones has found his perfect NFL match. Maybe it's a mirage. Time will tell.
 
warpig33 said:
Man, I really hope he has a rebirth in IND and I'm rooting for him. But I still have this overwhelming sense that it's all smoke and mirrors. As the season progresses, teams will start to figure him out and he'll come back down to Earth.
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Just saying....in NY we saw a lot of fail.
The whole team and organization at that point was a **** show. Expecting every fresh high new pick and coach to immediately win the super bowl. That's just not a thing.
I'm no film expert - hence I'm here as a new owner - but the lowlight reels I did see looked like errors from over-pushing.

He can run, and he can throw. And he's in what looks like a good spot.
His arrow is up and the ceiling is rising.

I'm between DDollars @Ten or Love @CLE, that's a tough call.
 
infantsam said:
warpig33 said:
Man, I really hope he has a rebirth in IND and I'm rooting for him. But I still have this overwhelming sense that it's all smoke and mirrors. As the season progresses, teams will start to figure him out and he'll come back down to Earth.
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Just saying....in NY we saw a lot of fail.
The whole team and organization at that point was a **** show. Expecting every fresh high new pick and coach to immediately win the super bowl. That's just not a thing.
I'm no film expert - hence I'm here as a new owner - but the lowlight reels I did see looked like errors from over-pushing.

He can run, and he can throw. And he's in what looks like a good spot.
His arrow is up and the ceiling is rising.

I'm between DDollars @Ten or Love @CLE, that's a tough call.
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Agreed. He's certainly shown flashes of high ability...just highly inconsistent if not subpar. Maybe in IND the spotlight isn't as bright and he can just be a guy here and relax? We'll see as the season goes on. He'll either play himself into a nice paycheck, or be playing as a backup next year.

With that said, I am starting him against TEN. I don't have any other options. TEN defense isn't a joke, but neither was DEN.
 
He's a Sam Darnold that can run. Josh Allen-lite

I hate that I believe this is here to stay, but I do. Give Jones time to hit the skill players in Indy (who I've always felt were more dangerous than given credit for) he will be a good fantasy, and real life, QB this year. DannyPenny has it in him to create dollars a quarter of the time, and this year he's tossing dimes and carving the defense's nickle.

OK, I might have stretched on the last one, idk how he performs against nickle D.

I am also confident that he will make a handful of baffling mistakes on par with when a CB just grabbed the ball from his hand like it was nothing. He will never be a Superbowl qb. Will win a playoff game, or two depending on the defense.
 
wgoldsph said:
He's a Sam Darnold that can run. Josh Allen-lite

I hate that I believe this is here to stay, but I do. Give Jones time to hit the skill players in Indy (who I've always felt were more dangerous than given credit for) he will be a good fantasy, and real life, QB this year. DannyPenny has it in him to create dollars a quarter of the time, and this year he's tossing dimes and carving the defense's nickle.

OK, I might have stretched on the last one, idk how he performs against nickle D.

I am also confident that he will make a handful of baffling mistakes on par with when a CB just grabbed the ball from his hand like it was nothing. He will never be a Superbowl qb. Will win a playoff game, or two depending on the defense.
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Remember that Shane Steichen was the OC 2021-2022 with the Eagles.
He coached Hurts and you can tell he has been looking for a dual threat QB in Indy with ARich.
I would say maybe he found his Hurts-lite QB.
 
Right now he's got the comeback player of the year in his pocket. I hope he can keep this up. That franchise was due some good Luck (pun intended) for a change.
 
Jppaul said:
are any of y 'all trying to sell "high" or do you think waiting a few more weeks to sell a little higher?
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As someone who lost Burrow I feel very fortunate to have got Jones off waivers, so I’m definitely holding. I have Browning as well, but we saw how that just went.
 
I’m a Daniels and Lawrence owner. Picked up Dimes. One is getting cut this week. It ain’t him. Love what I see. Is just making good decisions and quality throws. Could have had a bigger game yesterday but it was JT’s day
 
steelwind said:
wgoldsph said:
He's a Sam Darnold that can run. Josh Allen-lite

I hate that I believe this is here to stay, but I do. Give Jones time to hit the skill players in Indy (who I've always felt were more dangerous than given credit for) he will be a good fantasy, and real life, QB this year. DannyPenny has it in him to create dollars a quarter of the time, and this year he's tossing dimes and carving the defense's nickle.

OK, I might have stretched on the last one, idk how he performs against nickle D.

I am also confident that he will make a handful of baffling mistakes on par with when a CB just grabbed the ball from his hand like it was nothing. He will never be a Superbowl qb. Will win a playoff game, or two depending on the defense.
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Remember that Shane Steichen was the OC 2021-2022 with the Eagles.
He coached Hurts and you can tell he has been looking for a dual threat QB in Indy with ARich.
I would say maybe he found his Hurts-lite QB.
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I say Allen because they have similar brutal running styles.
 
Jppaul said:
are any of y 'all trying to sell "high" or do you think waiting a few more weeks to sell a little higher?
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It's only reason I bid a bit more than wanted for him..QBs a taking a beating this year. I'm going to try and get a decent wr for Jones. Want to wait 2 more weeks for his value to go up.

What Jones is doing is no fluke. I just want to make sure others have no doubts either so I get good value for him..
 
The schedule shapes up nicely too. Five certainly difficult defenses @ Rams (week 4), @ Chargers (7), @ Chiefs (12), @ Seattle (15) and v SF (16).

v Raiders (5), v Cardinals (6), v Titans (8), v Falcons (10), v Texans (13), @ Jaguars (14), v Jaguars (17)

@ Steelers (9) looks very good ATM but, I never count a Tomlin team out. The Jags D has been tough and the Texans D definitely has talent but this is a nice schedule.
 
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I'm in a 10 team SF league with Lamar, Nix & I picked up Jones. I want to trade him but I may try to move Nix because, regardless of performance I think people will value him more. Probably going to wait until after this week @ the Rams to see if he can handle a tough road matchup.
 
It's been a while, but we are having some QB depth issues in 2025.
Burrow, Fields, Daniels, Purdy out.
Stroud, Lawrence, Murray, Tua, Penix, Love, Knix are all mediocre.

When you have a QB like Jones that has a pulse and he can run, it's tough to sell unless you have the top 3.
 
GPS said:
Ray_T said:
jobarules said:
Jppaul said:
are any of y 'all trying to sell "high" or do you think waiting a few more weeks to sell a little higher?
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Nobody is trading for Daniel Jones
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maybe in superflex. but not in any league that starts only 1 QB.
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I did in a 2QB league with a 3QB roster limit after losing Burrow and Daniels. Desperation time.
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a 2 QB league is nearly the same as superflex. in a 12 team 2 QB league the scrub QB are worth more than they are in a superflex league but otherwise the valuation of your QB is almost the same.
 
I have a few extra picks in my superflex dynasty. I am thinking about throwing an offer for him, but I haven't gotten to watch him yet. Is he more of a Geno Smith or Sam Darnold where it is a one year wonder or is he on the Goff/Mayfield plan where this is career changing and we get a solid qb 1 going forward?
 
The offense looks so simple.
I can't get over it.
Copy this stuff and use it for every rookie QB
 
msudaisy26 said:
I have a few extra picks in my superflex dynasty. I am thinking about throwing an offer for him, but I haven't gotten to watch him yet. Is he more of a Geno Smith or Sam Darnold where it is a one year wonder or is he on the Goff/Mayfield plan where this is career changing and we get a solid qb 1 going forward?
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hes playing behind a line thats not horrible. I think he will be ok.
 
Hoh said:
I’m not starting him over Mahomes but the fact that it even crosses my mind sometimes really says something.
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Until Rashee Rice gets back, it's not out of the question to start Jones over Mahomes.

I wouldn't this week because of the matchup but, I'd consider it for sure.
 
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