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QB Daniel Jones, IND (1 Viewer)

Faust said:
Odd - the link works for me without displaying as premium content.
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Do you subscribe to said premium content? 
 

ETA: disregard, I tried again & It’s an add for their premium content. The 1st time I clicked there was no way to close it. Now I’ve got access. 

 
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zed2283 said:
At least he has a TE now.
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He had one before - but the OL was a mess so they asked EE to do more blocking. Both Rudolph & EE will still be doing a lot of blocking, but I just read that barring injury they still intend to use Rudolph as their “move” TE. 

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
He had one before - but the OL was a mess so they asked EE to do more blocking. Both Rudolph & EE will still be doing a lot of blocking, but I just read that barring injury they still intend to use Rudolph as their “move” TE. 
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I meant at least now he has a TE who can catch.

 
Most people expected Jones to make a major stride last year, but he was saddled with Garrett for an OC and one of the worst offensive lines in the league, not to mention an injury to Barkley.  Garrett is still OC and the most significant move they made to the o-line was to cut their best player.  Gettleman is betting that Garrett and the young o-linemen, all of whom showed very little last year, will also make major strides.  I hope all of that happens, but it doesn't seem like a realistic expectation, especially with Garrett.  I think Thomas and Pert have good upside, but they need work and players who need work need good coaching.

 
I'm excited to see what he can do this year. I bought him cheap in a super FLEX dynasty from an owner who seemingly gave up on this project to grab a QB early from this year's class.

Seems like he has too many weapons to fail.

 
Shaq90 said:
I'm excited to see what he can do this year. I bought him cheap in a super FLEX dynasty from an owner who seemingly gave up on this project to grab a QB early from this year's class.

Seems like he has too many weapons to fail.
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What’s super cheap?  I’m trying to sell him to strong contenders for their 2022 1st and mostly getting met with “lol” for responses...maybe he’s not worth that, but I’m also not bailing for pennies, better just to hold and see what happens during year at that point

 
That one guy said:
What’s super cheap?  I’m trying to sell him to strong contenders for their 2022 1st and mostly getting met with “lol” for responses...maybe he’s not worth that, but I’m also not bailing for pennies, better just to hold and see what happens during year at that point
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Superflex league?

 
tangfoot said:
I read recently that any time a headline asks a question, the answer is "No".  If it was yes, the headline would have been worded differently.
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It's a silly question anyway. We shouldn't expect 3rd year QBs who have been really bad to just turn into MVP candidates. 

 
kodycutter said:
Can I see your ten teams?  Not being antagonistic.

edit: and I agree - would prefer a WR via draft rather than overpaying another slot receiver.

Hakeem Nicks is only 32 years old, what a shame he didn't have a full career.
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He was a fun guy to watch when he was healthy. He did have a big career ahead of him.

 
BobbyLayne said:
Giants training camp observations, Day 3: Daniel Jones (and Kenny Golladay) still struggling

in another development, it appears the sun will be setting in the west this evening 
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May belong in the Golladay topic. :shrug:  

But Golladay is off to a slow start. He dropped a pass during drills where Giants receivers were practicing screens with Jones and the other quarterbacks.

Golladay, known for contested catches, also missed what should’ve been a touchdown over Adoree’ Jackson in the end zone on a 50/50 ball. It was good coverage from Jackson but it’s the sort of play the Giants are hoping Golladay will make this season.
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e.g. "Danny Dimes" day might have looked better with those two catches & TD. 

It's day 3. They're not even wearing pads. Golladay hasn't played in most of a year. I'mma let it breathe a little. 

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
May belong in the Golladay topic. :shrug:  

e.g. "Danny Dimes" day might have looked better with those two catches & TD. 

It's day 3. They're not even wearing pads. Golladay hasn't played in most of a year. I'mma let it breathe a little. 
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Yeah Dan Campbell told the bear writers to not get too excited about pajama warriors. Putting the pads on Monday.

Still, 11 on 11s/7 on 7s heavily favor the offense. They start training camps in non-contact drills bc they’re getting new guys acclimated and/or installing the offense. It’s a time to build up the confidence of the skill players, executing plays without pressure or disruptive blitzes. Master the basics and build from there.

When you’re starting QB cannot complete anything intermediate or deep downfield in easy drills, IDK if you should just dismiss & say no big deal. If it was the opposite - “DD completed 90% of his passes and seemed to really clicking with player X” - that would be something to largely ignore. Whatever, let’s see him do it when they start hitting people.

 
JohnnyU said:
Is Jones close to being waiver wire material in start 1qb 12 team leagues?
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I’d sure like to see him play before answering that. 

He’s barely hanging on as my QB3 behind Zach Wilson in Superflex at the moment. Really hoping he climbs into the QB2 spot. 

 
JohnnyU said:
Is Jones close to being waiver wire material in start 1qb 12 team leagues?
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I would drop him if I owned him, so my belief is yes.

Out of the 3 leagues, I am in, that are 12 team 1 QB he is owned in 2 out of 3, so my leagues disagree with me.

 
smbkrypt24 said:
I would drop him if I owned him, so my belief is yes.

Out of the 3 leagues, I am in, that are 12 team 1 QB he is owned in 2 out of 3, so my leagues disagree with me.
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There’s potential there with improved receivers and Barkley back. 

Look at Barkley’s receiving numbers his last healthy season. Now add that to Jones’ numbers & expected reduced turnovers due to safer dump-offs. 

It is possible that Jones is a top 15 QB. Is it probable?
 

(picture Larry David)

Eh….

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
There’s potential there with improved receivers and Barkley back. 

Look at Barkley’s receiving numbers his last healthy season. Now add that to Jones’ numbers & expected reduced turnovers due to safer dump-offs. 

It is possible that Jones is a top 15 QB. Is it probable?
 

(picture Larry David)

Eh….
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overly simplistic approach.  You can't just add numbers because someone missed the season.  You can expect increased dump offs and numbers to increase, but not by adding in a season Barkley was healthy in to D. Jones' last years numbers. 

 
smbkrypt24 said:
overly simplistic approach.  You can't just add numbers because someone missed the season.  You can expect increased dump offs and numbers to increase, but not by adding in a season Barkley was healthy in to D. Jones' last years numbers. 
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I didn’t say I was doing long division here. I just said he’s got more weapons & the implication with Barkley is that he’s done much more with Barkley in the backfield. 

 
Is he another Blaine Gabbert?  Or slightly more, but nothing you can't do without in a start 1qb 12 team league and could use the roster spot on a high upside prospect?

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
I didn’t say I was doing long division here. I just said he’s got more weapons & the implication with Barkley is that he’s done much more with Barkley in the backfield. 
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I quoted what you said.  I even bolded the part I took issue with.  No mention of trying to use long division in the equation.

 
JohnnyU said:
Is he another Blaine Gabbert?  Or slightly more, but nothing you can't do without in a start 1qb 12 team league and could use the roster spot on a high upside prospect?
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:shrug:  

It’s a good question. Unfortunately I don’t think we can answer it until after week 1, because the Giants aren’t showing us anything. 

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
:shrug:  

It’s a good question. Unfortunately I don’t think we can answer it until after week 1, because the Giants aren’t showing us anything. 
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He has already been dropped in one of my start 1 qb 12 team leagues.  I only have him in one league and already have Hurts, Mack Jones, Watson, and Zach Wilson.  Seems like overkill to keep Jones.  I suppose I could offer him up and a 4th rd pick for a future 3rd to a team with only one QB.  Everyone else wouldn't need him.  If he says no, then I'll try and offer him for a 4th to a team that I feel will be a bad team.

 
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smbkrypt24 said:
Would you categorize most of your posts as jokes on this forum?
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No; just that one, which was obviously intended as humor.

Part of that post was not a joke - which was the legitimate take that Jones could be better with an improved compliment of receivers.

happy I could clear that up for you, despite it all being glaringly obvious from my initial post. 👍🏼

 
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JohnnyU said:
He has already been dropped in one of my start 1 qb 12 team leagues.  I only have him in one league and already have Hurts, Mack Jones, Watson, and Zach Wilson.  Seems like overkill to keep Jones.
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Yeah, I’m not sure Jones makes your roster, but it’s tougher than it should be. Watson is kind of a brick for the time being, but talent-wise he’s a brick you’ve gotta hold.  Mack Jones is…..a backup? Will start this year? Tough to know. So you have Hurts/Wilson. That’s probably enough, but At least Jones is expected to be out there week 1. 

If Watson weren’t going through it, Jones would be a no-brainer drop for you in 1 QB IMO. 

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
No; just that one, which was obviously intended as humor.

Part of that post was not a joke - which was the legitimate take that AJones could be better with an improved compliment of receivers.

happy I could clear that up for you, despite it all being glaringly obvious from my initial post. 👍🏼
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Odd you felt the need to use "humor" in your response.  Your post clearly stated to add Barkleys healthy numbers to D. Jones numbers.  That was the point I was making before getting sidetracked with your "humor."

Let's stick with D. Jones before getting too sidetracked in this thread.

 
smbkrypt24 said:
Odd you felt the need to use "humor" in your response.  Your post clearly stated to add Barkleys healthy numbers to D. Jones numbers.  That was the point I was making before getting sidetracked with your "humor."

Let's stick with D. Jones before getting too sidetracked in this thread.
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You’re the one sidetracking this thread.  And frankly it comes off as stalkerish and trolling.

I checked the site rules - apparently we are allowed to use humor if we do choose. 

I also gave a very straightforward take on Jones, which you deemed “overly simplistic” - ok, fine. You’re allowed to have that opinion. So maybe stick with focusing more on Jones and less on me. It is the Daniel Jones topic, after all. 

have a nice day. 👍🏼

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Yeah, I’m not sure Jones makes your roster, but it’s tougher than it should be. Watson is kind of a brick for the time being, but talent-wise he’s a brick you’ve gotta hold.  Mack Jones is…..a backup? Will start this year? Tough to know. So you have Hurts/Wilson. That’s probably enough, but At least Jones is expected to be out there week 1. 

If Watson weren’t going through it, Jones would be a no-brainer drop for you in 1 QB IMO. 
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When I think of Mack Jones I'm not considering whether he's starting right away, and no one should in dynasty.  I'm thinking Hurts / Z Wilson / Mack Jones / and a Watson hold should suffice.  I'll try and trade D Jones, but I doubt there will be any takers, except possibly the one team with one QB rostered.

 
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