QB Hendon Hooker, Free Agent (1 Viewer)

[JoeJoe88]

Hooker inactive, guess TB is the backup after all

my bad, that is surprising to me

Everyone knows any hooker worth their weight is seldom inactive.

They claim it’s a healthy scratch, but I know better.

 

[JohnnyU]

Hooker inactive, guess TB is the backup after all

my bad, that is surprising to me

Everyone knows any hooker worth their weight is seldom inactive.

They claim it’s a healthy scratch, but I know better.

Yeah you never know what diseases a hooker has. I’ll be here all night.

 

[Bri]

Hooker inactive, guess TB is the backup after all

my bad, that is surprising to me

Me too. Teddy must have shown them alot last year. Hooker is the emergency backup.

I don't understand why the surprise.
Didn't ya see he was signed for the playoffs?

 

[Bri]

Hooker inactive, guess TB is the backup after all

my bad, that is surprising to me

Inactive third QB can still play third tho

 

[jon_mx]

Hooker inactive, guess TB is the backup after all

my bad, that is surprising to me

Me too. Teddy must have shown them alot last year. Hooker is the emergency backup.

I don't understand why the surprise.
Didn't ya see he was signed for the playoffs?

Because you need an emergency #3. That is what I thought they brought him in for.

 

[Spartans Rule]

I kind of assumed Teddy was coming back as a uniformed coach more than a serious QB option.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Has been outplayed by Kyle Allen throughout PS. Not even a debate. The competition isn’t over - one more game and 9 days until final cuts - but given the depth needs at other position groups, it would not be a complete shock if they dealt him for a 7th rounder before the 53-man is set.

"He’s playing better," Campbell said. "So I would say that right now, if you’re saying – if you had to go in with a two right now, who would you trust more? Yeah, I would trust Kyle more because he’s proven more after these two games. But I’m still – we’re still going to coach (Hendon) Hooker up and we’re still going to see what’s there and see if we can get him better. I mean, we still got a little bit here."

FWIW, the last time the Lions started the year with 3 QBs was 2021 when Goff’s backups were David Blough & Tim Boyle. It’s within the range of outcomes they carry 3, and Brad Holmes has been loathe to give up on any of his Day 2 picks.

IMO it would be in the team’s best interest to cut bait & move on. By all accounts Hooker has looked better than ever in practice, but if it doesn’t ever translate to game day, probably time to turn the page.

 

[Da Guru]

Has been outplayed by Kyle Allen throughout PS. Not even a debate. The competition isn’t over - one more game and 9 days until final cuts - but given the depth needs at other position groups, it would not be a complete shock if they dealt him for a 7th rounder before the 53-man is set.

"He’s playing better," Campbell said. "So I would say that right now, if you’re saying – if you had to go in with a two right now, who would you trust more? Yeah, I would trust Kyle more because he’s proven more after these two games. But I’m still – we’re still going to coach (Hendon) Hooker up and we’re still going to see what’s there and see if we can get him better. I mean, we still got a little bit here."

FWIW, the last time the Lions started the year with 3 QBs was 2021 when Goff’s backups were David Blough & Tim Boyle. It’s within the range of outcomes they carry 3, and Brad Holmes has been loathe to give up on any of his Day 2 picks.

IMO it would be in the team’s best interest to cut bait & move on. By all accounts Hooker has looked better than ever in practice, but if it doesn’t ever translate to game day, probably time to turn the page.

Holmes does not like to give up on his draft picks, but it Looks like "The Hendon Hooker Situation" is about to be resolved.

Read the Saints might have some interest for a 6th round pick.

 

[massraider]

He's a year older than Trevor Lawrence and two years older than Trey Lance.

Tell me, who here will have optimism about Trey Lance two years from now?

 

[BobbyLayne]

This guy is not good

 

[Leroy Hoard]

This guy is not good

Nothing worse than a bad hooker.

 

[Chaka]

He's a year older than Trevor Lawrence and two years older than Trey Lance.

Tell me, who here will have optimism about Trey Lance two years from now?

I see your meaning but, it kind of depends on what Lance does between here and there..

 

[Chaka]

This guy is not good

Nothing worse than a bad hooker.

Yes there is but, I don't want a time out a week before my main draft.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Campbell’s postgame presser was basically a dad telling his young child “The bunny is going to a farm up north where he'll have lots of room to run around and be with people that love him.” Said a change of scenery might be good for him & talked about weighing QB3 vs depth needs elsewhere.

 

[travdogg]

This guy is not good

He and Jaylen Wright are fighting for the title of most disappointing player of the preseason.

Hooker didn't show a single positive as a passer this preseason, its pretty much just been his legs that look good.

Wright looked like a guy with no vision or power, who also lost a fumble. Then he got hurt, adding injury to insult.

ETA: Notable that they both came from that gimmicky Josh Heupel Tennessee offense.

 

[Bri]

So many Titans fans wanted him and Travis Hunter. I was very intrigued and I love his college tape.
Lions GM missed a good trade here.

I would definitely be curious what Aaron Glenn thinks of him with Tyrod hurt and supposedly miraculously coming back from knee surgery in 4 weeks.

 

[BobbyLayne]

This guy is not good

He and Jaylen Wright are fighting for the title of most disappointing player of the preseason.

Hooker didn't show a single positive as a passer this preseason, its pretty much just been his legs that look good.

Wright looked like a guy with no vision or power, who also lost a fumble. Then he got hurt, adding injury to insult.

ETA: Notable that they both came from that gimmicky Josh Heupel Tennessee offense.

Yup, I said when they all came out it’s impossible to evaluate any of their non-RB skill players. Read one side of the field, pull it down if it’s not immediately there. None of the WRs (Hyatt, Tillman) developed any kind of pro ready route tree in college.

Joe Milton is semi-intriguing because he throws the ball as hard as Kershaw.

Sad thing here with Hendon is he was demonstrably better in OTAs and TC this year. He had some really good practice days. But for whatever reason he lost his confidence & looked horrible in games, each week worse than the last.

Maybe someone can fix him, but he’s already 27 and he is roster clogger. Maybe a year in the UFL would help him.

 

[Bri]

Dan Campbell suggests Hendon Hooker might need 'change of scenery' after loss to Texans

Lions head coach Dan Campbell suggests QB Hendon Hooker might need 'change of scenery' after another rough outing in preseason loss to Texans

lionswire.usatoday.com

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Dan Campbell suggests Hendon Hooker might need 'change of scenery' after loss to Texans

Lions head coach Dan Campbell suggests QB Hendon Hooker might need 'change of scenery' after another rough outing in preseason loss to Texans

lionswire.usatoday.com

Yeah, he gone. You don't say something like that in public if you're not planning to move on from the player.

 

[King of the Jungle]

It was a good swing with him falling due to injury and us having some additional picks that year, but it was a miss and time to move on. His biggest asset is simulating facing mobile QBs at this point.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Hendon Hooker led 20 preseason drives for the Lions.

The offense scored 3 points while Hooker had 0 TDs and 5 turnovers.

 

[Zeppelin]

Hendon Hooker led 20 preseason drives for the Lions.

The offense scored 3 points while Hooker had 0 TDs and 5 turnovers.

It's even worse because the 3 points were when the Lions started a drive on Miami's 27 yard line.

 

[TampaMike19]

Hendon Hooker led 20 preseason drives for the Lions.

The offense scored 3 points while Hooker had 0 TDs and 5 turnovers.

Imagine if these were 3 and outs at the minimum. 60 plays and basically 2.5 yards per play lol. It was worth a shot Detroit

 

[msudaisy26]

Hendon Hooker led 20 preseason drives for the Lions.

The offense scored 3 points while Hooker had 0 TDs and 5 turnovers.

Imagine if these were 3 and outs at the minimum. 60 plays and basically 2.5 yards per play lol. It was worth a shot Detroit

Disagree. They had Goff, loved Goff and Holmes brought him over from the Rams in the Stafford trade. It was a wasted 3rd round pick that could have been a better dart throw on defense or really any other position.

 

[BobbyLayne]

22/40 187 yds 0-5 TD/INT

preseason stats

Deep (20+) 0/3 0 0-1
Intermediate (10-19) 2/8 34 0-1
Short (0-9) 15/24 124 0-1
Behind LOS 5/5 29 0-0

in the bottom 15 QBs (of 81 qualifying) in every conceivable category

meanwhile the journeyman they brought in to push him was top 6 in most counting stats; passer ratings were 123.6 to 36.1

they wanted him to succeed but he played so poorly he basically forced the decision

 

[Andy Dufresne]

All I know is that college coaches are amazing.

How they can take guys that can't play quarterback and get them to be successful college quarterbacks is borderline literal magic.

 

[rockaction]

All I know is that college coaches are amazing.

How they can take guys that can't play quarterback and get them to be successful college quarterbacks is borderline literal magic.

You gotta tell me if your tongue is firmly planted in your cheek or not.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

All I know is that college coaches are amazing.

How they can take guys that can't play quarterback and get them to be successful college quarterbacks is borderline literal magic.

You gotta tell me if your tongue is firmly planted in your cheek or not.

I'm serious. Hooker was a pretty good college QB. Seeing him in the pros makes me wonder how that was possible. Sam Howell is another example.

I know the competition level isn't remotely the same. But I'm talking about the basic ideas of quarterbacking - like throwing.

 

[rockaction]

All I know is that college coaches are amazing.

How they can take guys that can't play quarterback and get them to be successful college quarterbacks is borderline literal magic.

You gotta tell me if your tongue is firmly planted in your cheek or not.

I'm serious. Hooker was a pretty good college QB. Seeing him in the pros makes me wonder how that was possible. Sam Howell is another example.

I know the competition level isn't remotely the same. But I'm talking about the basic ideas of quarterbacking - like throwing.

You've played quarterback before, right? I mean, like tackle football once in your time on earth. You know what just the thought of a rush can do to a throw even if you're kept totally clean. Now imagine that not only are you not going to be kept clean (ever) you're expected to deliver it thirty yards in the air on a line and with precision. And that's just to gain eight yards or so.

I think the competition is that tough and the time is winnowed down that much and everything is just hyperspeed. I remember watching this BYU running back who was runner-up or won the Doak Walker and said he got drafted in the sixth or seventh and went to camp and that the pace of the practice and that people were treating it as if it were normal let him know within an hour that it was a whole different animal and he'd never be able to hack it.

It's that drastic, I think. I think we don't hear about it because these guys are our Nietzschean warriors, our gladiators. I don't think they're able to express the sheer speed and physicality of it to us mere mortals because how do you get a fish to explain water to a cat?

Just a thought.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

All I know is that college coaches are amazing.

How they can take guys that can't play quarterback and get them to be successful college quarterbacks is borderline literal magic.

You gotta tell me if your tongue is firmly planted in your cheek or not.

I'm serious. Hooker was a pretty good college QB. Seeing him in the pros makes me wonder how that was possible. Sam Howell is another example.

I know the competition level isn't remotely the same. But I'm talking about the basic ideas of quarterbacking - like throwing.

You've played quarterback before, right? I mean, like tackle football once in your time on earth. You know what just the thought of a rush can do to a throw even if you're kept totally clean. Now imagine that not only are you not going to be kept clean (ever) you're expected to deliver it thirty yards in the air on a line and with precision. And that's just to gain eight yards or so.

I think the competition is that tough and the time is winnowed down that much and everything is just hyperspeed. I remember watching this BYU running back who was runner-up or won the Doak Walker and said he got drafted in the sixth or seventh and went to camp and that the pace of the practice and that people were treating it as if it were normal let him know within an hour that it was a whole different animal and he'd never be able to hack it.

It's that drastic, I think. I think we don't hear about it because these guys are our Nietzschean warriors, our gladiators. I don't think they're able to express the sheer speed and physicality of it to us mere mortals because how do you get a fish to explain water to a cat?

Just a thought.

I guess. Maybe.

But it's not that I'm surprised that guys can't do everything. I am shocked that some guys reaching the pro level can't do anything they demonstrated at the elite college level.

 

[rockaction]

All I know is that college coaches are amazing.

How they can take guys that can't play quarterback and get them to be successful college quarterbacks is borderline literal magic.

You gotta tell me if your tongue is firmly planted in your cheek or not.

I'm serious. Hooker was a pretty good college QB. Seeing him in the pros makes me wonder how that was possible. Sam Howell is another example.

I know the competition level isn't remotely the same. But I'm talking about the basic ideas of quarterbacking - like throwing.

You've played quarterback before, right? I mean, like tackle football once in your time on earth. You know what just the thought of a rush can do to a throw even if you're kept totally clean. Now imagine that not only are you not going to be kept clean (ever) you're expected to deliver it thirty yards in the air on a line and with precision. And that's just to gain eight yards or so.

I think the competition is that tough and the time is winnowed down that much and everything is just hyperspeed. I remember watching this BYU running back who was runner-up or won the Doak Walker and said he got drafted in the sixth or seventh and went to camp and that the pace of the practice and that people were treating it as if it were normal let him know within an hour that it was a whole different animal and he'd never be able to hack it.

It's that drastic, I think. I think we don't hear about it because these guys are our Nietzschean warriors, our gladiators. I don't think they're able to express the sheer speed and physicality of it to us mere mortals because how do you get a fish to explain water to a cat?

Just a thought.

I guess. Maybe.

But it's not that I'm surprised that guys can't do everything. I am shocked that some guys reaching the pro level can't do anything they demonstrated at the elite college level.

I gotcha. I get your confusion. Maybe I can try. I remember trying out for a statewide hockey all-star team when I was fourteen. Team Connecticut. I was not physically mature enough. Barely pubescent. Anyway, I went to catch a pass on a breakout and got so trucked that you could hear it everywhere. I figured that was it. I'd get up to hoots and catcalls and be so embarrassed I'd have to leave. I mean, couldn't they hear that? Couldn't they see that? They were all going to be yelling and laughing. So I dragged myself to my feet.

And then I realized something worse. Play had simply continued and they had an odd man rush against our team and they scored. I was shell shocked. I don't think I was able to complete tasks I could do in my sleep the rest of tryouts. I think we discount stuff like that.