QB Jameis Winston, NYG (7 Viewers)

[Don't Noonan]

Too bad Mariota got hurt or he clearly wins rookie if the year

 

[Capella]

Too bad Mariota got hurt or he clearly wins rookie if the year

Probably not and getting hurt is part of the deal. Jameis took some big hits and stayed up.

 

[Don't Noonan]

Well he clearly wins ahead of Winston. Take a look at the stats.

Winston

QBR 58.6

Comp % 58.3%

Yrds game 252

Yards per attempt 7.56

Pass TD per game 1.38

INT per game .94

Mariota

QBR 61.0

Comp % 62.2%

Yrds game 235

Yards per attempt 7.62

Pass TD per game 1.58

INT per game .83

Winston clearly had more weapons around him with Doug Martin, Mike Evans, and Vincent Jackson. Mariota is throwing to guys like Harry Douglass.

I will say that Winston did much better than I thought he would this year. I am still not too optimistic on his future though.

 

[cstu]

Winston wins PFF's rookie of the year.

Hi haters

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/01/12/pro-pffs-2015-rookie-of-the-year/

Good for him, but Griffin won over Luck.

 

[Capella]

Winston wins PFF's rookie of the year.

Hi haters

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/01/12/pro-pffs-2015-rookie-of-the-year/

Good for him, but Griffin won over Luck.

Ok?

 

[Frostillicus]

Winston wins PFF's rookie of the year.

Hi haters

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/01/12/pro-pffs-2015-rookie-of-the-year/

Good for him, but Griffin won over Luck.

Ok?

Griffin possibly out of the league 3 years after winning ROY = Jameis definitely out of the league 3 years after winning ROY. It's science.

 

[Frostillicus]

Duh

 

[mr roboto]

Winston wins PFF's rookie of the year.

Hi haters

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/01/12/pro-pffs-2015-rookie-of-the-year/

Good for him, but Griffin won over Luck.

Ok?

Griffin possibly out of the league 3 years after winning ROY = Jameis definitely out of the league 3 years after winning ROY. It's science.

Obviously cause they are both black.

 

[Capella]

Winston wins PFF's rookie of the year.

Hi haters

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/01/12/pro-pffs-2015-rookie-of-the-year/

Good for him, but Griffin won over Luck.

Ok?

Griffin possibly out of the league 3 years after winning ROY = Jameis definitely out of the league 3 years after winning ROY. It's science.

I love that this is what the reasoning has come down to for some of these goons. yea well OTHER rookie of the year winners who have almost nothing in common with Winston went on to suck!!!1

 

[Grahamburn]

Winston wins PFF's rookie of the year.

Hi haters

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/01/12/pro-pffs-2015-rookie-of-the-year/

Good for him, but Griffin won over Luck.

Jameis is the second best QB prospect in the last 10 years!

 

[Bronco Billy]

Winston wins PFF's rookie of the year.

Hi haters

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/01/12/pro-pffs-2015-rookie-of-the-year/

Good for him, but Griffin won over Luck.

Ok?

Griffin possibly out of the league 3 years after winning ROY = Jameis definitely out of the league 3 years after winning ROY. It's science.

I love that this is what the reasoning has come down to for some of these goons. yea well OTHER rookie of the year winners who have almost nothing in common with Winston went on to suck!!!1

You need to check your sarcasm meter. I think it is broken. Or you just have ignored all his other responses.

 

[Capella]

Winston wins PFF's rookie of the year.

Hi haters

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/01/12/pro-pffs-2015-rookie-of-the-year/

Good for him, but Griffin won over Luck.

Ok?

Griffin possibly out of the league 3 years after winning ROY = Jameis definitely out of the league 3 years after winning ROY. It's science.

I love that this is what the reasoning has come down to for some of these goons. yea well OTHER rookie of the year winners who have almost nothing in common with Winston went on to suck!!!1

You need to check your sarcasm meter. I think it is broken. Or you just have ignored all his other responses.

With Cstu? I don't think it's broken at all.

 

[Bronco Billy]

With Cstu? I don't think it's broken at all.

So you responded to Frostillicus' post with a comment aimed at cstu? Well stupid me for not being able to read your mind.

 

[Capella]

With Cstu? I don't think it's broken at all.

So you responded to Frostillicus' post with a comment aimed at cstu? Well stupid me for not being able to read your mind.

I don't think that was a major stretch to follow there.

 

[Frostillicus]

With Cstu? I don't think it's broken at all.

So you responded to Frostillicus' post with a comment aimed at cstu? Well stupid me for not being able to read your mind.

I don't think that was a major stretch to follow there.

I think Cappy was responding to my comment about cstu's comment. Cappy knows I'm no dummy?

 

[Grahamburn]

Wasn't Carnell "Cadillac" Williams the rookie of the year? Bad omen.

"We really felt that he was a great, great running back, to be honest with you," Gruden said. "[Auburn coach] Tommy Tuberville felt the same way. Everybody I talked to in Alabama said: 'This is the greatest running back in the history of high school football in Alabama.' Better than Bo Jackson, better than most of these guys have ever seen. I'm not saying he's better than Bo. But everybody I talked to said he's a hell of a back. 'Get him on your team,
somehow, some way.'

Could have had Aaron Rodgers. Gruden's drafts set this franchise back 10 years.

 

[Capella]

Frosty is good people and he will also be out of the league in 2 years.

 

[Capella]

Wasn't Carnell "Cadillac" Williams the rookie of the year? Bad omen.

"We really felt that he was a great, great running back, to be honest with you," Gruden said. "[Auburn coach] Tommy Tuberville felt the same way. Everybody I talked to in Alabama said: 'This is the greatest running back in the history of high school football in Alabama.' Better than Bo Jackson, better than most of these guys have ever seen. I'm not saying he's better than Bo. But everybody I talked to said he's a hell of a back. 'Get him on your team,

somehow, some way.'

Could have had Aaron Rodgers. Gruden's drafts set this franchise back 10 years.

I don't really believe in omens or hysteria. Caddy had a great rookie year. So did Jameis. They have nothing in common other than that.

 

[jabarony]

~$1 million settlement with the rape victim, but there was no wrongdoing.

 

[Capella]

~$1 million settlement with the rape victim, but there was no wrongdoing.

You're missing a major fact here.

 

[cstu]

Via Matt Baker of the Tampa Bay Times, Florida State has settled a lawsuit brought by Kinsman under Title IX, a federal law that requires public universities to investigate allegations of sexual assault. Florida State has announced that $250,000 will go to Kinsman and that $700,000 will go to her lawyers.

The problem for Winston is that news of the settlement not only creates the impression that Florida State did something wrong, but that Winston did, too. And this could make Winston even more determined to do whatever he has to do to win the case that Kinsman has brought against him.

 

[Grahamburn]

Wasn't Carnell "Cadillac" Williams the rookie of the year? Bad omen.

"We really felt that he was a great, great running back, to be honest with you," Gruden said. "[Auburn coach] Tommy Tuberville felt the same way. Everybody I talked to in Alabama said: 'This is the greatest running back in the history of high school football in Alabama.' Better than Bo Jackson, better than most of these guys have ever seen. I'm not saying he's better than Bo. But everybody I talked to said he's a hell of a back. 'Get him on your team,

somehow, some way.'

Could have had Aaron Rodgers. Gruden's drafts set this franchise back 10 years.

I don't really believe in omens or hysteria. Caddy had a great rookie year. So did Jameis. They have nothing in common other than that.

I wasn't really serious about the omen part.

 

[dhockster]

Via Matt Baker of the Tampa Bay Times, Florida State has settled a lawsuit brought by Kinsman under Title IX, a federal law that requires public universities to investigate allegations of sexual assault. Florida State has announced that $250,000 will go to Kinsman and that $700,000 will go to her lawyers.

The problem for Winston is that news of the settlement not only creates the impression that Florida State did something wrong, but that Winston did, too. And this could make Winston even more determined to do whatever he has to do to win the case that Kinsman has brought against him.

There really is something wrong with the legal system when a settlement pays lawyers 3/4 of the settlement money. Of course without the lawyers, she would not have gotten anything. So what do I know.

 

[Capella]

Now a pro bowler

 

[Frostillicus]

Now a pro bowler

Big whoop. Jamarcus made a pro bowl. Probably. Not looking it up.

 

[Tool]

Via Matt Baker of the Tampa Bay Times, Florida State has settled a lawsuit brought by Kinsman under Title IX, a federal law that requires public universities to investigate allegations of sexual assault. Florida State has announced that $250,000 will go to Kinsman and that $700,000 will go to her lawyers.

The problem for Winston is that news of the settlement not only creates the impression that Florida State did something wrong, but that Winston did, too. And this could make Winston even more determined to do whatever he has to do to win the case that Kinsman has brought against him.

There really is something wrong with the legal system when a settlement pays lawyers 3/4 of the settlement money. Of course without the lawyers, she would not have gotten anything. So what do I know.

That is amazing.

 

[Capella]

Now a pro bowler

Big whoop. Jamarcus made a pro bowl. Probably. Not looking it up.

Out of the pro bowl in 2 years

 

[Grahamburn]

Brady passing the torch of greatness. Out with the old, in with the new.

 

[Bri]

Now a pro bowler

Excellent for a rook

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Now a pro bowler

Excellent for a rook

I don't say this to bash Winston (because he had a great rookies season) but Pro Bowl selections have become a joke with most players declining to go. Teddy Bridgewater (who I also like long term) had a pretty mediocre season and he's going as well.

 

[Capella]

Now a pro bowler

Excellent for a rook

I don't say this to bash Winston (because he had a great rookies season) but Pro Bowl selections have become a joke with most players declining to go. Teddy Bridgewater (who I also like long term) had a pretty mediocre season and he's going as well.

I get it, but he's still a pro bowler He was the 11th QB taken which all things considered is pretty damn good.

 

[Grahamburn]

Now a pro bowler

Excellent for a rook

I don't say this to bash Winston (because he had a great rookies season) but Pro Bowl selections have become a joke with most players declining to go. Teddy Bridgewater (who I also like long term) had a pretty mediocre season and he's going as well.

I think we're all being a bit facetious about this "selection."

However, it's still a nice honor, and when you start to look at the NFL QB landscape for the next few years Winston's name is near the top of the list.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Now a pro bowler

Excellent for a rook

I don't say this to bash Winston (because he had a great rookies season) but Pro Bowl selections have become a joke with most players declining to go. Teddy Bridgewater (who I also like long term) had a pretty mediocre season and he's going as well.

I get it, but he's still a pro bowler He was the 11th QB taken which all things considered is pretty damn good.

Sure. Not trying to take anything away from him.

 

[Quez]

This guy has college head coaches quitting their jobs for the chance to hitch their wagon to him. He already got Dirk Koetter a head coaching job in 1 year!

 

[SacramentoBob]

He'll be the worst pro bowl QB in history.

 

[Arodin]

He'll be the worst pro bowl QB in history.

Let's say that is true, and he throws something like four picks in the Pro Bowl while completing only one pass.

Would anyone even notice, much less care enough to remember in three or four years?

Who has the record for strikeouts in an All Star game? I don't think even the statheads who follow baseball bother with that sort of metric.

 

[Gawain]

It's supposed to be the PRO Bowl, not the Mediocre Bowl.

 

[Capella]

It's supposed to be the PRO Bowl, not the Mediocre Bowl.

Strong take, Skip

 

[got_nugs]

That Eifert drop was clearly on Winston. Those other 2 TD passes were lucky.

 

[Capella]

 

[Capella]

So in our first season of this thread, our boy brows 2 touchdowns in the fourth quarter of the pro bowl.

If this thread were mortal combat we'd be getting the FINISH HIM signal for lod and Cstu right now.

 

[mr roboto]

We're flexing over the Pro Bowl now?

 

[lod01]

We're flexing over the Pro Bowl now?

Yeah, that was one of the dumbest posts in the history of dumb post. I could pull someone's grandpa out of a retirement village, plop her down in a wheel chair, hand her a football and she could throw a TD pass in the Joke Bowl.

 

[got_nugs]

I thought his 1st TD pass was in the 3rd quarter?

If my qb ever tweeted a Google search to his experienced gf I think I'd quit watching football forever. The rest of America (I've taken a poll) is laughing at the doo####ude. That's Russell Wilson's bird amirite?

 

[cobalt_27]

So in our first season of this thread, our boy brows 2 touchdowns in the fourth quarter of the pro bowl.

If this thread were mortal combat we'd be getting the FINISH HIM signal for lod and Cstu right now.

Now imagine if this had been an actual game.

 

[Capella]

We're flexing over the Pro Bowl now?

No, it's just a continuation of his great season and further confirmation of how poor of a "scout" LOd is.

 

[Quez]

The pass to Delanie Wlaker was nice. He dropped it in right over the LB & hit him in stride.

The 7yd pass to Deandre Hopkins was a bullet.

 

[Hang 10]

Why was he in the pro bowl? How many QB's had to turn down playing before they got to Jameis?

 

[Bronco Billy]

We're flexing over the Pro Bowl now?

Yeah, that was one of the dumbest posts in the history of dumb post. I could pull someone's grandpa out of a retirement village, plop her down in a wheel chair, hand her a football and she could throw a TD pass in the Joke Bowl.

I think we need to qualify this.

Was the list of dumbest posts in history that you are speaking of include your posts, or do you have a list of your own since it wouldn't be fair to have yours compared to amateurs.

 

[Capella]

Why was he in the pro bowl?

Because he had a really good season?

How many QB's had to turn down playing before they got to Jameis?

I have no clue.