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QB Jameis Winston, NYG (3 Viewers)

He is on my 12 team 1 QB start Dyno league waivers and I just can’t pick him up. On top off complete lapses of stupid on the field he gives those strange rally talks that nobody seems to understand. No way in heck TB gives him a hundred mill after this season....right?
People paid the Sex Pistols not to put out records on their record labels, so anything's possible. 

 
He is on my 12 team 1 QB start Dyno league waivers and I just can’t pick him up. On top off complete lapses of stupid on the field he gives those strange rally talks that nobody seems to understand. No way in heck TB gives him a hundred mill after this season....right?
I don’t know what they’re going to do. I think they’ll likely be picking in the 10-18 range which won’t allow them to get the premium QBs and Arians is 100% not there to break in some rookie. But Jameis isn’t good enough for that contract. They may just franchise him for a year and kick the can down the road. 

 
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Love that you waited till right that moment. Perfect troll. 
I like how you started bowing up again when the team got a big lead and he had not served up one of his textbook INTs. You should have just le t it be.

You really cannot call someone whose analysis has been correct since day one a 'troll' and think you are right.

 
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I like how you started bowing up again when the team got a big lead and he had not served up one of his textbook INTs. You should have just le t it be.

You really cannot call someone whose analysis has been correct since day one a 'troll' and think you are right.
He’s been good since week 2. I haven’t said anything. He’s been amazing today and threw a bad pass. Most nfl QBs do the same. Nobody is saying he’s brady. 

 
Yup. And Winston led them down there for that FG attempt.
Been waiting on him for years. I'm sure he's one of the best thirty-two in the world, it's how close he is to number one that is the debate. 

I just read the Deep Ball Accuracy Report from a fine fellow at Football Outsiders. Fascinating read. I think Jameis was 23rd out of the 32. The throw they show him making is unreal. 

 
No joke, I literally now loathe this POS.  Lol.  I need anger management.  This is the 2nd year in a row I drafted Winston and he f’d me.  2 garbage weeks had me thinking I was wrong about him and he sucks.  I wasn’t even sure he’d finish the year as the bucs starter.  Dropped him to the wire.  Thought I was smart. Now, for 2 weeks straight, his production could have helped me secure wins.  Instead I’ve been trotting our Andy dalton.  I need to step away from looking at my redraft league for a while.  I’m much bette in dynasty  where I don’t churn my roster.  Anthjehabdhrhcnejzbfjwncjfj&3!,8/$;$.&3$,!!3&,!;$:!.!!3$?’dn

 
Jameis Winston completed 28-of-41 passes for 385 yards, four touchdowns, and one interception in the Bucs' 55-40, Week 4 win over the Rams.

This was a tough on-paper spot headed into the week, but Winston answered with easily his best game of the young season. His only mistake was a fourth-quarter pick-six to Marcus Peters to give the Rams life after trailing most of the day by double digits. Winston's first two scores were to Chris Godwin in the red zone. Winston threw another red-zone strike to Cameron Brate for a touchdown, and then beat Peters deep for a 67-yard hookup to Mike Evans. Winston and Godwin were cooking all afternoon, generating a 12-172-2 line on 14 targets. Winston will be a high-ceiling but always risky QB1 play next week in the Superdome against the Saints.

Sep 29, 2019, 7:55 PM ET

 
Would’ve won this week if I didn’t cut ties two weeks ago. 

Honestly still don’t know if I can trust him. 

 
Would’ve won this week if I didn’t cut ties two weeks ago. 

Honestly still don’t know if I can trust him. 
Mercurial might be a good word for him. Or inconsistent. Either way, I get what you're saying, but he's had his third straight good game in a row under Arians and Leftwich.

 
Would’ve won this week if I didn’t cut ties two weeks ago. 

Honestly still don’t know if I can trust him. 
In this boat as well.  I traded for Brady after Cam went down since Jameis was my only other QB and He's massively outscored Brady since.  N.O. Def next week, so I'm going to keep him on the bench for one more week at least.  Saints looked tough. 

 
In this boat as well.  I traded for Brady after Cam went down since Jameis was my only other QB and He's massively outscored Brady since.  N.O. Def next week, so I'm going to keep him on the bench for one more week at least.  Saints looked tough. 
You would have put him on the bench against the Rams . He proved us wrong. 

You can't bench him against NO. 

 
I’m so torn on this guy. Do I take this opportunity to try and upgrade him or by the end of the season is he the guy people are trading for?

 
I’m so torn on this guy. Do I take this opportunity to try and upgrade him or by the end of the season is he the guy people are trading for?
I know that I love his weapons. Evans, Godwin, Howard, Brate and now even RoJo is emerging.

Arians and Leftwich are a huge bump for this guys confidence. They are letting him sling it and as a fantasy owner, I love Arians QBs when they are capable to run is offense. Winston is capable. 

 
last time they went to N.O. they smoked the saints, no? 
Season opener, TB won by 8, dialed up some deep strikes from Fitz to DJax. Primarily what happened is Gillislee (yes) was in for Ingram who was on suspension and he put the ball on the turf for a scoop-6 by the Bucs D. It was a random wild game, I think 48-40 Bucs.

 
last time they went to N.O. they smoked the saints, no? 
NO's offense isn't rolling like they do under Brees but I will say that the NO defense has vastly improved and scares me a little this week.  I am committed to Winston this week already though as Goff already played.  Rock and Roll

 
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NO's offense isn't rolling like they do under Brees but I will say that the NO defense has vastly improved and scares me a little this week.  I am committed to Winston this week already though as Goff already played.  Rock and Roll
NO Defense is one of the worst pass Ds in the league. Lattimore has given up the most yards to WR1. 

Most Yards Allowed in Coverage (Cornerbacks) 1. Marshon Lattimore, Saints (380) 2. DeAndre Baker, Giants (307) 3. Janoris Jenkins, Giants (297) 4. Avonte Maddox, Eagles (278) 5. Malcolm Butler, Titans (277) 6. Johnathan Joseph, Texans (269)

In my Yahoo league it says that NO has given up the 3rd most points to QBs and the 6th most to WRs in my scoring system. They shut down Dak, but still have those rankings. 

 
NO Defense is one of the worst pass Ds in the league. Lattimore has given up the most yards to WR1. 

Most Yards Allowed in Coverage (Cornerbacks) 1. Marshon Lattimore, Saints (380) 2. DeAndre Baker, Giants (307) 3. Janoris Jenkins, Giants (297) 4. Avonte Maddox, Eagles (278) 5. Malcolm Butler, Titans (277) 6. Johnathan Joseph, Texans (269)

In my Yahoo league it says that NO has given up the 3rd most points to QBs and the 6th most to WRs in my scoring system. They shut down Dak, but still have those rankings. 
In my ESPN league they are the #7 overall D while going up against the Texans, Rams, Seattle and Dallas ( not exactly and easy schedule)  Plus being home in the dome.

Lattimore hasn't looked great but did turn the corner last week.  Don't get me wrong I'm starting Winston, I just wouldn't surprised to see a dud game.  Would rather see Brees out there and hope for a shootout instead of Bridgewater and a vanilla offense

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In my ESPN league they are the #7 overall D while going up against the Texans, Rams, Seattle and Dallas ( not exactly and easy schedule)  Plus being home in the dome.

Lattimore hasn't looked great but did turn the corner last week.  Don't get me wrong I'm starting Winston, I just wouldn't surprised to see a dud game.  Would rather see Brees out there and hope for a shootout instead of Bridgewater and a vanilla offense

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Sacks and return TDs dont really matter to passing defense in terms of fantasy point production. Defenses can return TDs and get sacks and fumble and the QB can still light them up. Now while that will matter if they pick off Winston or Recover his fumbles, the point remains their defense is easier to pass on than run on...by a wide wide wide margin.

 
Sacks and return TDs dont really matter to passing defense in terms of fantasy point production. Defenses can return TDs and get sacks and fumble and the QB can still light them up. Now while that will matter if they pick off Winston or Recover his fumbles, the point remains their defense is easier to pass on than run on...by a wide wide wide margin.
Got to disagree with you there, sacks have a lot to do with QB play.  Winston has been pretty erratic in the past under pressure. 

Like I said I am starting him just wouldn't be surprised to see a bad game just as I wouldn't be surprised if I saw 300 yrds and 3 Tds

 
Got to disagree with you there, sacks have a lot to do with QB play.  Winston has been pretty erratic in the past under pressure. 

Like I said I am starting him just wouldn't be surprised to see a bad game just as I wouldn't be surprised if I saw 300 yrds and 3 Tds
He’s #1 in the nfl agaisnt the blitz. 86% completion percentage 

 
Got to disagree with you there, sacks have a lot to do with QB play.  Winston has been pretty erratic in the past under pressure. 

Like I said I am starting him just wouldn't be surprised to see a bad game just as I wouldn't be surprised if I saw 300 yrds and 3 Tds
The secondary is bad and Lattimore has given up the most yards to a WR, regardless of how many points the Saints D has in your NFL.com league. They still allowed the 3rd most points to QBs, and thats including all the sacks they have. Sacks have nothing to do with fantasy football QB stats, it can effect a few drop backs obviously, but it doesnt give them negatives and it doesnt mean they wont throw for TDs and yards. He can get sacked 5 times and still throw for 300 and 3, like he virtually has.

I know, you are starting him.

 
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Wrigley said:
QB desperate

I can have him for Gore or Coleman

Who/why?
Jesus that's crazy cheap.

In my league last year, Mahomes finished the year QB1 with 445 points, Matt Ryan was second at 378.  

Fitzpatrick and Winston combined for 422.

TB QB is a pretty nice fantasy asset.  Right now that's Winston, with no competition in sight.

 
His last ten games after being benched in 2018 against the Bengals:

3,030 yards. 22 TDs. 9 INTs. 109 QBR. 

Pretty solid average baseline there. Keep it up, Jameis.
 

This is a big game early in the season. He hasn’t shown up for the few big games the Bucs have had in the past.

 
His last ten games after being benched in 2018 against the Bengals:

3,030 yards. 22 TDs. 9 INTs. 109 QBR

Pretty solid average baseline there. Keep it up, Jameis.
 

This is a big game early in the season. He hasn’t shown up for the few big games the Bucs have had in the past.
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QBR goes from 0 to 100, so how does one get to 109? 

 

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