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QB Jimmy Garoppolo, LAR (1 Viewer)

This Garopollo thread reminds me of when I posted about Alex Smith. There was a guy over at SB Nation that really went after him with Mahomes still in the wings. And Smith won more games in KC than he did in SF. But the guy over at SB Nation wasn't wrong lol.

I don't think Lance is the next Mahomes, but given how much they gave up for him, he better be.

Edit: Smith was a better QB in KC than he was in SF, although he did post the lowest yards passed over scrimmage and have WR's not catch a TD pass in a whole calendar year.

 
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This Garopollo thread reminds me of when I posted about Alex Smith. There was a guy over at SB Nation that really went after him with Mahomes still in the wings. And Smith won more games in KC than he did in SF. But the guy over at SB Nation wasn't wrong lol.

I don't think Lance is the next Mahomes, but given how much they gave up for him, he better be.

Edit: Smith was a better QB in KC than he was in SF, although he did post the lowest yards passed over scrimmage and have WR's not catch a TD pass in a whole calendar year.
Show of hands, who thinks Jimmy is better than Mahomes. Maybe we need a poll on this.

 
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Ah Niners Nation, me old old stompin' grounds. I see it's changed a bit since Fooch left for Draft Kings, but it's still "let's post yet another article using advanced stats to qualify our average to below average quarterbacks" (see: the Alex Smith era). It was different back then when Danny Tuccitto used DVOA over there back in the day (that eventually helped him get with Football Outsiders as the assistant editor via of all things, the 49ers themselves who helped him land that gig), to now articles like this that try to tell people "Well Garopollo has similar basic NFL numbers (TDs, INTs, Yards, Sacks) to Taylor Hieneke of WFT, but wait, here's more!"

And like any articles that are written there (which I wrote a few meself back in the day), it's all about driving the comment section. Seriously, that's what NN is about, my old email inbox would show that. So here is a comment from there that isn't from me, but kind of reflects an ongoing thing in this late stage of this thread:

I'm an old timer. Been a 49er fan since 1946, with a brief hiatus during my teenage years as a Rams fan (Bob Porterfield, Norm Van Brocklin, Crazy Lets Hirsch, Tank Younger). I've seen all the Niner QBs, from Frankie Albert to Y.A. Tittle to John Brodie to Joe Montana to Steve Young to Jeff Garcia to Kaep to JG and all of the rest of them in between. Jimmy G is not among the best of them and he's also not among the worst. He's an average QB at best. He's had some very good games and some very bad ones. He didn't lose the 2019 SB: Shanahan did, just like he lost the SB when he was the OC with Atlanta and the way he messed up this year's loss to Green Bay by mismanaging the clock at the end of the game. All that being said, I'm tired of some of the posters here who are eager to label anyone who disagrees with them as "haters", just as I'm tired of those who throw around too easily terms like "racists", "xenophobes" "misogynists" and other derogatory terms to apply them to people who disagree with their points of view. I know we're all passionate 49er fans here, but please leave the unfounded labeling of differing opinions out of the discussions. Presumably, we're all adults, so let's please have rational discussions and leave the word "hate" completely out of postings. It's not an accurate depiction of anyone's opinions, as far as I can tell. It's just an easy was to discount the opinions of other Niner fans.


This is Alex Smith era all over again.

 
If he keeps playing well they might actually get something for him after this season.  Earlier in the year I didn't think theyd get a bag of chips for him. With upcoming games against the Seahawks, Falcons, Texans, and a Rams team who might be resting starters week 18, he has a good chance to put together a nice string of games to end the season. 


Well he should be having a 2021 Kirk Cousins season. In 2021. Right now he is having a Taylor Heineke season. Just by the basic numbers.

It will never be worth what they gave up for Trey Lance. That's even if Garopollo is able to play out the string without getting injured (again), and given his injury history, that also affects his value.

 
Garopollo at the half vs. MIN:

9/16 completions, 122 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 1 sack for ten yards.

I wonder how Niners Nation is gonna grade that.

 
Final on Garopollo vs MIN:

17/26, 230 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 2 sacks for 15 yards.

49ers had rushed for 208 on the ground also.

It's not franchise quarterback stuff, for a franchise quarterback salary.

 
https://www.nfl.com/news/49ers-plan-to-trade-jimmy-garoppolo-start-trey-lance-in-2022

San Francisco 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan suggested last week that it's conceivable that QB Jimmy Garoppolo could return to the team in 2022.

But it's not at all the club's intent, according to NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport. The 49ers intend to trade Garoppolo in the offseason to clear the deck for first-round draft pick Trey Lance, who is being groomed for the role from the sideline as a rookie this season.

"Absent a Super Bowl run, which at this point is still theoretically possible, this is the 49ers' plan next season: start Trey Lance, trade Jimmy Garoppolo. Not a surprise there, they've been pretty up front about that," Rapoport said Sunday on NFL GameDay Morning. "What Garoppolo is doing now is increasing the value of picks the 49ers get in a trade involving him, and they make it more likely that a place he wants to go would want to take him."

With Garoppolo at the helm for all but one start, the 49ers are 5-5 and remain in the playoff hunt, albeit in a tough division with the Cardinals and Rams among the top teams in the NFC. Garoppolo has completed 170 of 254 passes this season for 2,112 yards, 12 touchdowns and only five interceptions. A strong finish would certainly make him more appealing around the league. It's also worth noting that the 2022 quarterback draft class isn't projected to be especially strong, which could bolster the market for free-agent quarterbacks and trade-worthy veterans like Garoppolo.

 
Weak line vs the Vikings


It is, although I am sure many Garoppolo (I am finally spelling his last name right lulz) will use "boutique" stats from sites like NextGen or PFF to dive deeper into it and extrapolate a positive, like the Niners Nation blog post had over his prior three games.

 
Expected Points Added (EPA) per drop back measures the value of contributions on each down in a much more precise way than raw yardage, as it accounts for down and distance, sacks, scrambles, INTs, scoring plays, etc.

EPA/drop back, full 2021 season…

1. Jimmy Garoppolo: 0.233

2. Aaron Rodgers: 0.229

3. Kyler Murray: 0.227

4. Teddy Bridgewater: 0.216

5. Matt Stafford: 0.210

6. Tom Brady: 0.204

7. Josh Allen: 0.193

8. Patrick Mahomes: 0.182

9. Kirk Cousins: 0.181

10. Justin Herbert: 0.165

12. Mac Jones: 0.133

I can already hear gaskets being blown because it's just numbers from a whack formula some stat nerd made up, they don't mean anything, which might be true, but they probably mean something.

 
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Expected Points Added (EPA) per drop back measures the value of contributions on each down in a much more precise way than raw yardage, as it accounts for down and distance, sacks, scrambles, INTs, scoring plays, etc.

EPA/drop back, full 2021 season…

1. Jimmy Garoppolo: 0.233

2. Aaron Rodgers: 0.229

3. Kyler Murray: 0.227

4. Teddy Bridgewater: 0.216

5. Matt Stafford: 0.210

6. Tom Brady: 0.204

7. Josh Allen: 0.193

8. Patrick Mahomes: 0.182

9. Kirk Cousins: 0.181

10. Justin Herbert: 0.165

12. Mac Jones: 0.133

I can already hear gaskets being blown because it's just numbers from a whack formula some stat nerd made up, they don't mean anything, which might be true, but they probably mean something.


Do you actually understand the stat itself? If in your own words "they probably mean something", then maybe you don't and maybe it's you blowing a gasket over very basic numbers that are official numbers posted at the end of every game, regular season, and post season for every other quarterback.

 
It's just a guess, and I'm betting a correct one, cuz I know some people can't not respond to certain things. Pretty hilarious if you ask me. Keep talking to the wall if it makes you happy.

Go Niners!

 
It's just a guess, and I'm betting a correct one, cuz I know some people can't not respond to certain things. Pretty hilarious if you ask me. Keep talking to the wall if it makes you happy.

Go Niners!


Is this thread about Garoppolo, or is this thread about you?

 
Just looking at some basic Garoppolo numbers in SF:

40 games started, , 9694 yards, 59 TDs, 32 INTs, 86 sacks for 581 yards, and I haven't even compiled fumbles lost.

 
Final on Garopollo vs SEA today:

20/30, 299 yards, 2 TDs, 2 INTs, 1 sack for five yards (ended in a Safety).

A five yard sack, the only sack SEA had on Garopollo, turned into a key factor in the outcome, despite how many potential points SEA themselves gave away at the goal line.

He is 18 TDs to 8 INTs after this weekend.

Taylor Heinike: 18 TDs to 11 INTs the same.

Discuss.

 
Final on Garopollo vs SEA today:

20/30, 299 yards, 2 TDs, 2 INTs, 1 sack for five yards (ended in a Safety).

A five yard sack, the only sack SEA had on Garopollo, turned into a key factor in the outcome, despite how many potential points SEA themselves gave away at the goal line.

He is 18 TDs to 8 INTs after this weekend.

Taylor Heinike: 18 TDs to 11 INTs the same.

Discuss.


Game managers. They're just not QBs that are fun to watch... they need great play from supporting casts and short game scripts to be effective. Good enough to win some games, but ain't bringing home the big trophy without a dominating defense.

 
Game managers. They're just not QBs that are fun to watch... they need great play from supporting casts and short game scripts to be effective. Good enough to win some games, but ain't bringing home the big trophy without a dominating defense.


Heinicke came into the league as UDFA, and bounced around teams (including the XFL), and is probably getting paid scrub dollars. Garopollo is earning franchise quarterback money while entering his fourth season as the de-facto starting quarterback, and posting UDFA numbers on a team like WFT, whom Dan Snyder has created a mess out of (not that Jed York hasn't either as President of the 49ers).

What do you have with a game manager at quarterback who is your franchise quarterback? You have an offense that doesn't have a clear cut WR1, needs to platoon RBs, your leading receiver is at TE who may not play a full 16 because he's a check down who has to plow past the second level of defense, and while your contract says "franchise" your arm doesn't.

But he is very handsome, and Jed thinks "billboards".

If Garopollo's face was at the level of his passing game, well it's not pretty. The 49er front office were desperate for a "face of the franchise". It wound up being Kittle. Whose face isn't near as pretty as Garopollo's. In fact, Kittle is as ugly as Jeff Garcia. But Garcia married a Playmate of the Year.

Jimmy dated a Bang Bros MiLF.

 
Heinicke came into the league as UDFA, and bounced around teams (including the XFL), and is probably getting paid scrub dollars. Garopollo is earning franchise quarterback money while entering his fourth season as the de-facto starting quarterback, and posting UDFA numbers on a team like WFT, whom Dan Snyder has created a mess out of (not that Jed York hasn't either as President of the 49ers).

What do you have with a game manager at quarterback who is your franchise quarterback? You have an offense that doesn't have a clear cut WR1, needs to platoon RBs, your leading receiver is at TE who may not play a full 16 because he's a check down who has to plow past the second level of defense, and while your contract says "franchise" your arm doesn't.

But he is very handsome, and Jed thinks "billboards".

If Garopollo's face was at the level of his passing game, well it's not pretty. The 49er front office were desperate for a "face of the franchise". It wound up being Kittle. Whose face isn't near as pretty as Garopollo's. In fact, Kittle is as ugly as Jeff Garcia. But Garcia married a Playmate of the Year.

Jimmy dated a Bang Bros MiLF.


I don't disagree. Despite what they're getting paid or where they were drafted, they're both just OK QBs. And their coaches know it which is why they both try to win 2-hr football games 17-16 every week.

WFT feels like they turned Rudy into a weekly series... their QB is so limited, but everybody loves an underdog.

No matter... neither one of these teams is going anywhere with these QBs.

 
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I don't disagree. Despite what they're getting paid or where they were drafted, they're both just OK QBs. And their coaches know it which is why they both try to win 2-hr football games 17-16 every week.

WFT feels like they turned Rudy into a weekly series... their QB is so limited, but everybody loves an underdog.

No matter... neither one of these teams is going anywhere with these QBs.


I use WFT Rudy as a point of reference to Garopollo. Your point makes sense when it comes to SF. The past few games during the three game win streak was "Jimmy did ok, he had like 6 TDs to 1 INT" which ain't bad when the offense is rushing for 150 yards + per game. Against LAR, JAX, and MIN respectively. Today, the 49ers rushed for only 71 yards. At Seattle. That's it That's ballgame. Even with all the defense that stopped Seattle from bleeding the 49ers even more at the goal line.

I really dislike when fans use boutique data points to skew their own cognitive bias, but most of the time the simple numbers add up to the complete picture, and in the end the only numbers that matter are the ones you accumulate throughout a game and a season. Algorithms are algorithms, if there were an algorithm that can create a WFT Rudy into an Aaron Rodgers, well it can only be applied on a spreadsheet. Not on a gridiron.

 
https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2021/12/05/kurtenbach-jimmy-garoppolo-is-still-making-rookie-mistakes-and-that-puts-the-niners-playoff-hopes-in-jeopardy/

The 49ers are still likely to make the playoffs despite losing in Seattle on Sunday, 30-23.

But that doesn’t mean they’re a good team.

For all the fuss and muss about 53-man rosters and organizational depth, this is a league where success is defined by two people: the quarterback and the head coach.

Shanahan can coach well. He doesn’t manage the clock well and he can certainly be headstrong as an offensive coordinator, but he schemes receivers open in a way no one else in the league can, and despite so many losses throughout his career, his team always has buy-in.

He’s certainly not the biggest problem for this team.

The same cannot be said for the quarterback, Jimmy Garoppolo.

I saved all the emails, tweets, and even the voicemail that came my way over the last three weeks. Dozens — perhaps hundreds — of readers and headline glancers claimed that Garoppolo had, in fact, changed as November turned to December.

Let Sunday’s game stand as Exhibit A:

No, he did not change.

He might have fooled so many of you, but he didn’t fool a team he plays twice a year, every year.

Sunday’s game was every bit as chaotic as you would expect a Seahawks game to be. The chaos was augmented by the fact that Seattle was also desperate for a win.

Despite that, the Niners had far more talent on the field than Seattle. George Kittle was a menace, going for 181 yards. Brandon Aiyuk was a couple of drops away from joining him. The left side of the Niners’ offensive line was dominant, and Azeez Al-Shaair was immense behind the Niners’ impressive defensive line.

The Niners are a flawed team, no doubt — just look at their secondary — but they should have dominated Seattle and sent them into a hole that Pete Carroll might not have been able to get out of for years to come. The Niners should have buried their arch-rivals.

But it doesn’t really matter that the 49ers — even with their special teams mistakes and secondary issues — were the better team than Seattle.

The Seahawks had the better quarterback Sunday. He made the big plays in the second half and Garoppolo couldn’t move the ball (San Francisco didn’t come close to crossing midfield) until the final drive of the game.

Now, I’ll give credit where it’s due — Garoppolo was solid in the final three-plus minutes of the game. Against a prevent defense, No. 10 tore up the Seahawks, completing his first seven throws of the drive for 105 yards (thanks, penalties) to take San Francisco from their own 2 to Seattle’s 3-yard line.

That was legitimately good stuff.

But where was that the rest of the game?

Garoppolo had a chance to tie the game because of a great final drive, but the first 56 minutes of the contest were defined by him dinking, dunking, and throwing egregious interceptions to Seahawks defenders that kept Seattle in the game.

Again, this should have been a blowout win for the Niners on the road.

One interception? The Niners can survive that. Everyone is entitled to a brain fart.

But two? Not a chance. Not unless the rest of the team plays a perfect game, and trust me, the Niners did anything but that Sunday.

It’s that, or Garoppolo makes some big-time throws — the kind that the best quarterbacks in the NFL make — to create points.

Frankly, either is an unrealistic expectation going into a contest.

Which means that so long as Garoppolo is the quarterback, the Niners’ margin for error is slim to none.

What can you really win when that’s the case?

Garoppolo is supposed to be a system quarterback — someone who works and can execute the coach’s offensive scheme at a high level. But 42 regular-season games into his Niners career, it seems as if the opposite is true. Garoppolo is anything but a generational talent, but needs the offense to be built for him. And that will make him merely average at his position.

On Sunday, Shanahan abandoned the Garoppolo-in-shotgun offense he used over the last three weeks. He asked Garoppolo to back under center, save for the final drive of the game.

And against one of the worst defenses in the NFL, Garoppolo struggled. His two interceptions were the kind that rookie quarterbacks make. His throws— even the ones he did complete — were anything but accurate. His completions, even his first-quarter touchdown to Kittle, were routine — there are 30 quarterbacks in the league who can make them. In fact, if not for some excellent open-field plays by Kittle and Aiyuk, his stat line would have told that story.

Now, Shanahan deserves blame for going back to a system that did not work earlier this season (or last) — Garoppolo works best in the shotgun because he doesn’t see the field well, so turning his back to the defense is, well, a problem.

But it doesn’t matter if the quarterback is asked to start the play with his back to the defense, the interception he threw directly to Bobby Wagner in the first quarter, and his baffling decision to throw to a double-covered George Kittle over the middle in the third are indefensible throws.

I’m not advocating for the Niners’ rookie quarterback, Trey Lance, to take over as the starting quarterback — though a few snaps as a runner wouldn’t hurt him — but why is the veteran the rookie is supposed to be learning from still making rookie mistakes?

It’s not good enough. It hasn’t been for a long time.

Sunday was a game the 49ers controlled. When they lost control, they asked Garoppolo to win it. Hell, the Seahawks dared him to win it.

And his offense wasn’t able to muster a point in the second half. They only gained 42 yards on 14 plays before the final drive. Seattle scored more points when San Francisco was on offense than the Niners did after halftime.

Now, even with Sunday’s loss. San Francisco is sitting pretty in the race to the middle that is this 2021 NFL season. They likely only need two wins in their last five games to make the playoffs, thanks to two key tiebreakers over the Eagles and Vikings.

So yes, I think the Niners will be a playoff team. They’ll win two more games, right? They better. They still have a home game remaining against the lowly Texans.

But even if they do, what will it matter? This team’s not doing anything in the postseason.

Seattle gave the rest of the NFL the blueprint for beating the Niners — even if Deebo Samuel is playing: sell out to stop the run and dare Garoppolo to beat you.

For a true, top quarterback, such a game plan would result in a guaranteed loss — they’d be carved up left and right.

With Garoppolo, it’s a win for the opponent.

Shanahan was able to hide Jimmy G the last few weeks, but not anymore. Seattle took their aggression to a never-before-seen level Sunday. The perks of needing to put it all on the line.

If the 49ers’ final five opponents were smart, they’d follow Seattle’s suit.

Luckily for the Niners, most of their final five opponents are not, so we’ll get one more game before the Lance era begins in 2022.


I added emphasis on one paragraph throughout this whole rant of a blog post because I said something similar to Garopollo being a system QB who you can't build a system around. But the post also reflects my comparison to quarterbacks like Taylor "Rudy" Heinicke. Games like how Garopollo played today kinda blew up the punditry of Peter King and such saying Shanahan was "Coach of the Month because he won games against Minnesota managing Jimmy Garopollo" when Detroit won their first game this season against Minnesota the very next week. Peter King is always going to get a few Amici's pizzas whenever he comp'd a suite at the Fairmont San Jose, glossing the 49ers will not matter when he is in town. BTW. Amici's pizza is really really good, highly recommended when visiting Oracle Park or Chase Center to watch the SF Basball Giants or the Golden State Warriors while in SF, because nobody has a good reason to go to San Jose or Santa Clara unless you're paid to be there. I think Amici's is still there near Oracle, if not, sorry man, the effing tech bros.

A pretty face does not mask an ugly quarterback. Ben Rothlisberger has a mug only his own mother would love, and she hates how he is playing lately. Even she would tell him to retire. Aaron Rodgers' face scares dogs and raccoons, and he is playing lights out.

Garopollo may look like Superman, but his arm is kryptonite to the offense.

 
Final on Garopollo vs SEA today:

20/30, 299 yards, 2 TDs, 2 INTs, 1 sack for five yards (ended in a Safety).

A five yard sack, the only sack SEA had on Garopollo, turned into a key factor in the outcome, despite how many potential points SEA themselves gave away at the goal line.

He is 18 TDs to 8 INTs after this weekend.

Taylor Heinike: 18 TDs to 11 INTs the same.

Discuss.


Got my math a bit off on this because the official number wasn't posted at the time but:

Garopollo into 12 games of this season (one missed start):

15 TDs, 8 INTs, 2641 yards, 19 sacks for 118 yards.

In 2019 he took 39 sacks for 237 yards through 16 games.

He is on pace for taking less sacks this season than he had in 2019, yet has 13 less TDs and 5 less INTs he posted that year at this time of the season.

In 2019, the 49ers had a total of 2035 rushing yards for the regular season.

Currently through 12 games they are at 1511 yards total rushing. They are on pace to surpass that through the remaining six games.

Yet the only stat that Garopollo could match: INTs. And I haven't even looked at fumbles lost.

I figure someone would post a David Lombardi EPA stat here, but they lost, so there is that. They move onto the next fruity IPA and avoid FBG for a while and don't bump threads with a Peter King article. I don't even think anyone could compile Garopollo's "regression to the mean" since he really doesn't even have one. He is a sort of "Black Box" when it comes to statistics. Or maybe more of a Schrodinger's Cat box, whether he is alive or dead, predicated on "Garopollo Mechanics". But we have to place Garopollo on a list somewhere above Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, and Patrick Mahomes to show we are NFL Einsteins, right?

 
Except I'm pretty sure the EPA stats arent used as an argument he's on par with those ones. More like trying to say he's not complete crap.
There in lies my real issue with Jimmy, specifically his trade value.   If Darnold is worth a second for "potential upside" despite years of terrible play, and Wentz is worth a conditional first off of one year of mvp level play followed by injury and terrible play, then JimmyG (a league average qb who lead his team to the superbowl) should at least be worth the same conditional first the eagles got for Wentz.  The idea that the 9ers can't get a haul for him doesn't make sense to me when looking at other trades around the league.

 
There in lies my real issue with Jimmy, specifically his trade value.   If Darnold is worth a second for "potential upside" despite years of terrible play, and Wentz is worth a conditional first off of one year of mvp level play followed by injury and terrible play, then JimmyG (a league average qb who lead his team to the superbowl) should at least be worth the same conditional first the eagles got for Wentz.  The idea that the 9ers can't get a haul for him doesn't make sense to me when looking at other trades around the league.
In your comparisons, what Darnold and Wentz had at one point was perceived unrealized upside, whereas in the land of perception we already "know" what JimmyG's upside is so what he has point on film works against him.  It's a paradox.

 
In your comparisons, what Darnold and Wentz had at one point was perceived unrealized upside, whereas in the land of perception we already "know" what JimmyG's upside is so what he has point on film works against him.  It's a paradox.
At one point Jimmy was "the guy" for sf.  They even went to the superbowl fer christsakes!

He's budget Matt Hasselbeck.  Some team is going to talk themselves into him as the safe option out of a sea of risk.

 
Except I'm pretty sure the EPA stats arent used as an argument he's on par with those ones. More like trying to say he's not complete crap.


Except that stat was extrapolated over a three game stretch where the 49ers offense was dominant on the ground. Something like 150 plus each game.

Stats like Lombardi's EPA are there for people who tend to use them for either FF, Vegas, Tweets, or  blog posts. And the odd fan who really really really needs to pWn a thread.

 
Jimmy may not be putting up huge numbers, but he’s winning and playing mainly mistake free football. Not much more you can ask for. Raising his off-season trade in the process.

 
Except that stat was extrapolated over a three game stretch where the 49ers offense was dominant on the ground. Something like 150 plus each game.

Stats like Lombardi's EPA are there for people who tend to use them for either FF, Vegas, Tweets, or  blog posts. And the odd fan who really really really needs to pWn a thread.
Ok so your point was a strawman, nobody is saying Jimmy is as good as Rodgers or Mahomes.

 
Jimmy may not be putting up huge numbers, but he’s winning and playing mainly mistake free football. Not much more you can ask for. Raising his off-season trade in the process.


Wins aren't a QB stat, and the mistakes he has made are mistakes he always seems to make, like against SEA last week.

 
Ok so your point was a strawman, nobody is saying Jimmy is as good as Rodgers or Mahomes.


You know when you post "strawman"  in an argument, you just showed you don't understand what a strawman is, don't you?

You would do better pointing out where the straw is in a discussion, rather than chew on it.

 
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Jimmy Superfan lurking while furiously looking to post another Lombardi stat he failed to post last week because they lost.

 
Now onto the finals between quarterback CIN vs SFO:

Garopollo 27-41, 296 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs , 5 sacks for 41 yards

Burrow 25-34. 348 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs, 5 sacks for 37 yards.

 
I’d say wins are pretty important to coaches.


I forget to add to this:

49ers this season are currently at 7-6. One game above .500. In a 17 game season, that one win above .500 is pretty much a "half of a win" just using basic math (which everyone seems to not recognize in this thread because they have other biases to confirm), so for the sake of your point Garopollo in a "to be traded during the offseason" regular season - which could be one loss less due to he still while as a 49er has only one full regular season as franchise starter - his winning percentage this season could be a .650. Take away that extra game of this season, and he is at .600.

But here is a kicker: he's "lost" two games against a sub .500 team, and has only won two against above .500 teams.

Being that Garopollo has a penchant for throwing passes into Bobby Wagner's chest (Wagner has picked him three times while playing against Garopollo), maybe Shanahan would figure to not start Garopollo against the Seahawks. Not when he favorite target seems to be Bobby Wagner.

ETA: tl;dr: Jimmy Garopollo isn't paid 27 millions dollars this season to beat Joe Burrow, he is paid that much to beat Russell Wilson.

 
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JIMMY GAROPPOLO QB, SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS

NBC Sports' Peter King reports the 49ers "have not made up their minds, at all, about how to handle their quarterback situation in 2022 and beyond."

Jimmy Garoppolo has complicated matters by playing passably well over the past month and a half, keeping first round rookie Trey Lance firmly seated on the bench since Week 11, when he rushed three times against the Jaguars. Lance hasn't thrown a pass since Week 5. Head coach Kyle Shanahan said the team drafting Lance has been "really hard on [Garoppolo]," commending him for handling the situation like a professional. At 7-6 after winning four of their past give games, the Niners are likely to stick with Garoppolo for the rest of the season. Shanahan said in November that rotating quarterbacks complicated his play calling, vowing to stick with one QB whenever possible. If Jimmy G propels the Niners into the postseason, expect him to be the favorite to start for San Francisco in 2022, the final year of his deal with the 49ers. 

RELATED: 

Trey Lance

SOURCE: FMIA 

Dec 13, 2021, 8:26 AM ET

 
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^ Oh boy, there's some fuel for some dead-horse-beating drivel right there. I feel for those that don't use the ignore feature.

 

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