QB Jimmy Garoppolo, LAR (1 Viewer)

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Josh Rosen signed by the Browns?! Why?

probably the old “throw a bunch of #### against the wall and see what sticks” approach. 

 

[cloppbeast]

I understand what your saying, clopp but the writing was on the wall for him in SF after what they paid for Lance. Obviously Shanahan must have felt that the QB position was what was holding them back from winning the ‘ships those years or otherwise they don’t make the move, eh? I think Jimmy is a good QB and would be an upgrade for several NFL teams and harbor no ill will towards the man. 
 

I think they need to free up money to pay Bosa and Deebo mainly, no? 

I wouldn't do it, like I said. They don't need that money to sign Bosa and Deebo right now as they have them both signed for '22. So I don't understand what would be the benefit. By when their contracts are up, Jimmy is gone. 

If Lance isnt ready for this year, or if he's just not that good, that 20mil will look awfully measly. 

 

[Wingnut]

The biggest reason Jimmy is on his way out is his inability to stay healthy.  In his 4 years in SF (we won't count 2017 as he only played in the last 5 games after being traded in Oct), he played in 3, 16, 6, and 15 games.

That's 40 out of a possible 65 regular season games. Unacceptable for a guy who makes franchise QB money.

That's the main reason they drafted a replacement. If Jimmy could stay healthy, there'd be no hurry/reason to replace him. 

And that's why nobody wants to trade for him when they can wait and sign him cheap after he's released.

 

[Faust]

Jimmy Garoppolo (shoulder) reported to training camp and will avoid PUP/active list. 

As for what happens from here, Kyle Shanahan acknowledged the 49ers are in a tough spot but also said "You also can't just let one of the better quarterbacks in the league be available for no reason to the rest of the world" when asked about releasing Garoppolo. "We think Jimmy would have been traded if the surgery didn't happen. He needed to do it, there's no ill will there at all," Shanahan added. There's not an easy starting landing spot for Garoppolo without interest from the Seahawks, which may make him a backup in 2022 barring some kind of quarterback injury.

SOURCE: David Lombardi on Twitter

Jul 26, 2022, 2:49 PM ET

 

[zed2283]

Saw a blurb come through about 30 min ago saying Jimmy was traded to the Giants for (I think) two 2nds but I haven't seen anything else to corroborate.

 

[matttyl]

Saw a blurb come through about 30 min ago saying Jimmy was traded to the Giants for (I think) two 2nds but I haven't seen anything else to corroborate.

It was fake news 

 

[Faust]

The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports the Browns will "consider" acquiring Jimmy Garoppolo if Deshaun Watson's suspension is increased from six games. ​

That could probably be worded "when" Watson's ban is increased. The NFL has confirmed it is seeking a minimum one-year suspension in its appeal of Watson's current punishment. The Garoppolo news is hardly surprising, as current Browns No. 2 Jacoby Brissett has proven to be a sub-par backup. Brissett is cement-footed in the pocket and takes far too long to get rid of the ball. Garoppolo is just the opposite, though his accuracy and arm leave something to be desired. He would probably be a better triggerman for what is guaranteed to be a run-focused offense in Watson's absence.
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SOURCE: Cleveland Plain Dealer
Aug 11, 2022, 1:38 PM ET

 

[greenmountaingoat]

The Browns have always made sense to me (and not just for the possibility of the NEP symmetry). Giants I guess but they could at least in theory benefit from being in a better position for drafting a QB next year. I'm out on Daniel Jones, personally so think them deciding that they've seen enough in camp wouldn't be that surprising. The schedule is easy enough that with better QB play and a little health luck, they could be a sneaky WC team or at least give the fans something to get excited about for most of the season.

Browns gain next-to-nothing from tanking and have a compete-now roster.

If Jacoby can bring this team to 8-9ish and Jimmy increases that to 10-7 ish. Granted, of course the AFC is rough sledding this year but if I'm CLE, I'm doing that as long as I can do it on the cheap. The big question is salary and pick. Similar to the Baker deal, Jimmy re-works his deal-- everyone eats some of the $$ and the Niners get a late round pick.

Everybody wins.

 

[spurs44]

He could still be viable but it depends on his familiarity with the Browns current scheme and his confidence post injury. He's a cerebral guy so I think it's possible. But, ss tp your earlier point. Time is a factor now that preseason started.

 

[Chaka]

The Browns have always made sense to me (and not just for the possibility of the NEP symmetry). Giants I guess but they could at least in theory benefit from being in a better position for drafting a QB next year. I'm out on Daniel Jones, personally so think them deciding that they've seen enough in camp wouldn't be that surprising. The schedule is easy enough that with better QB play and a little health luck, they could be a sneaky WC team or at least give the fans something to get excited about for most of the season.

Browns gain next-to-nothing from tanking and have a compete-now roster.

If Jacoby can bring this team to 8-9ish and Jimmy increases that to 10-7 ish. Granted, of course the AFC is rough sledding this year but if I'm CLE, I'm doing that as long as I can do it on the cheap. The big question is salary and pick. Similar to the Baker deal, Jimmy re-works his deal-- everyone eats some of the $$ and the Niners get a late round pick.

Everybody wins.

I guess it could happen but if the Browns really prioritized winning they would have kept Mayfield.

He wasn't happy but he has the talent, knows the offense and has every incentive to put the best possible film out there to secure the best landing spot as a FA in 2023.

He's a professional they would have made it work if they wanted to.

 

[Tanner9919]

Josh Rosen signed by the Browns?! Why?

probably the old “throw a bunch of #### against the wall and see what sticks” approach.

LOL. that's how I felt about the Mitch Trubisky signing in Pittsburgh.pone of the worst QB of the past 25 years get signed for clipboard duty. he can't possibly be the starter in Pitt what little respect that team has would vaporize in a nanosecond

 

[drummer]

https://twitter.com/NFLonCBS/status/1559557007299969026

Lowest Passer Rating on throws of 30+ Air Yards since start of 2020 Jimmy Garoppolo 3.5 Trevor Lawrence 28.2 Drew Lock 44.0 Sam Darnold 51.1 *min 15 starts

Lot's of sort of negative media coming out about Garoppolo, such as:

49ers QB Jimmy Garoppolo is getting badmouthed on his way out

The 49ers are further emphasizing their distance from Jimmy Garoppolo.

www.sfgate.com

The 49ers aren't worried about the door hitting Jimmy Garoppolo on the way out, apparently.


With the dirt not even fresh on the grave of his tenure in the Bay Area, sources are already leaking about the quarterback's questionable habits.


Shortly after Garoppolo signed the $137.5 million contract that, alongside the quarterback’s injury history, has made him so difficult to unload on another team, he reportedly ghosted on the Niners.

I guess all those Lombardi tweets over Garoppolo have been usurped by "Lance's lethal legs in training camp", but as much as it would seem Garoppolo's exit would be unceremonious outisde of a compensation pick if there were a trade (which looks more unlikely each day), the quiet drama that is ensuing here looks more like a front office vendetta against Garoppolo due to Don Yee taking care of his client. Just why does a starting QB ghost his own team in the offseason? Sure it could be because the franchise spent a lot of draft capital on a possible reach yet fits more of what Shanahan can scheme with, but unfortuneatley for Garoppolo, numbers don't lie, even when someone like Lombardi creates a formula to say otherwise, because eventually someone will click on that and post it somewhere like here.

Funny thing is I never hear anyone refer to Tom Brady as "Tom", or even "Tommy". Of course 49er fans refereed to Joe Montana as "Joe" and Steve Young as "Steve" (as in Joe vs. Steve). Maybe because "Jimmy" is easier to type than "Garoppolo".

Yet no one called "Druckenmiller" by his first name, and added two more letters to it.

Never saw any Jeff, Tim, Alex, Trent, Shaun, even Colin.

"The problem with Jimmy is" he is Jimmy Garoppolo. A quarterback who has only played one full regular season in his entire career. Who scored less touchdowns in two post seasons with the 49ers than Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick respectively in a single post season.

Bye bye Jimmy, you'll look just as handsome as Blaine Gabbert holding a clipboard until ABC calls for you to be on "The Bachelor".

"Jimmy Stans" will still hold a place for you, even somewhere in Tampa.

Edit: those "Air Yards" are kind of curious (Alex Smith had an even lower "Air Yards" number while in KC, like the lowest during a year where he didn't throw a TD pass to a WR in a calendar year), especially when it's in the same conversation as Drew Lock, who when Garoppolo is most likely cut might be signed with Seattle. Maybe that is a sort of subterfuge to keep Garoppolo out of interest there. At least people understand Trevor Lawrence's situation. Maybe even Sam Darnold's. But can anyone explain why Garoppolo is in the same sentense as Drew Lock?

"He's as pointless as Mass Effect 3 has multiple endings, I mean he's a completely useless appendage and we all know it" - Bertram Gilfoyle

"I mean Mass Effect 3? Harsh". - Erlich Bachamann

That's as harsh as putting Garoppolo in the same sentence as Darnold and Lock.

 

[cloppbeast]

Funny thing is I never hear anyone refer to Tom Brady as "Tom", or even "Tommy". Of course 49er fans refereed to Joe Montana as "Joe" and Steve Young as "Steve" (as in Joe vs. Steve). Maybe because "Jimmy" is easier to type than "Garoppolo".

Yet no one called "Druckenmiller" by his first name, and added two more letters to it.

Never saw any Jeff, Tim, Alex, Trent, Shaun, even Colin.

I've always sort of liked JG, you could even call me an apologist, if you will. But now finally I get it. Ppl call him by his first name. I can't believe I never noticed before. The blatant disrespect says it all. It's outrageous, in fact. They couldn't even be subtle about it.

You know, I still have soft spot for Jimmy tho. I hope he recovers from this insult and lands on his feet somewhere.

 

[zamboni]

That article sounds a bit harsh and a 180 degree turnaround from what most have said about him to date, but it's a business.

I'm guessing that barring a trade (unlikely) Jimmy will be cut on August 30 when teams need to get down to a 53 player roster.

 

[osubuckeyeman]

The Niners are doing him a disservice by holding on to him this long. Here is a player that helped you get to a Super Bowl and two NFC championship games and you decided to basically hinder his future because you mortgaged the franchise's future with a new quarterback. I'm not saying he is the greatest quarterback in the world but do him a solid and cut him now if you are going to cut him. He has earned that and he is keeping his mouth shut almost to his own detriment. He could have done a lot of damage in the media and caused a lot of issues in the offseason and maybe that would have got him cut or traded earlier. This waiting till the last day of cuts says a lot about how they feel about Jimmy G. Who cares if he goes to Seattle? You did not want him anyway. And it's clear no one is trading for him knowing you are going to cut him anyway. And if you cut him he is most likely going to Seattle anyway and still can be a pain later for you. They have like what a week and a half? Just cut him already. I hope this blows up in Shanny's face.

The only thing I think that is defensible is the surgery Jimmy got but what was he supposed to do not get the surgery? The timeline would for him have been even worse and looking at it now I understand why he did that. It's clear the Niners had no thoughts about what was best for Jimmy.

 

[Wingnut]

The Niners are doing him a disservice by holding on to him this long. Here is a player that helped you get to a Super Bowl and two NFC championship games and you decided to basically hinder his future because you mortgaged the franchise's future with a new quarterback. I'm not saying he is the greatest quarterback in the world but do him a solid and cut him now if you are going to cut him. He has earned that and he is keeping his mouth shut almost to his own detriment. He could have done a lot of damage in the media and caused a lot of issues in the offseason and maybe that would have got him cut or traded earlier. This waiting till the last day of cuts says a lot about how they feel about Jimmy G. Who cares if he goes to Seattle? You did not want him anyway. And it's clear no one is trading for him knowing you are going to cut him anyway. And if you cut him he is most likely going to Seattle anyway and still can be a pain later for you. They have like what a week and a half? Just cut him already. I hope this blows up in Shanny's face.

There's zero reason to cut him until Aug 30th. The 49ers dont owe him anything, they've already given him a way bigger contract than he deserved, and he's set for life money-wise.

Had he not opted to have offseason surgery when he did, they might have been able to trade him, but coming off surgery no team was gonna touch him, so he actually screwed the team by lowering his trade value. Now they will get nothing for him.

And who cares of he goes to Seattle? Seriously? No team is just gonna give a better than average starting QB to a division rival. I don't think anyone cares if he ends up there, but we're not gonna help them by letting him go there in time to be ready for the season. If he wants to sign there after he's cut, that's fine, but there's no reason to help him join a division rival at this point in time.

 

[Faust]

Jimmy Garoppolo ‘ghosting’ story keeps getting weirder

 

[drummer]

Funny thing is I never hear anyone refer to Tom Brady as "Tom", or even "Tommy". Of course 49er fans refereed to Joe Montana as "Joe" and Steve Young as "Steve" (as in Joe vs. Steve). Maybe because "Jimmy" is easier to type than "Garoppolo".

Yet no one called "Druckenmiller" by his first name, and added two more letters to it.

Never saw any Jeff, Tim, Alex, Trent, Shaun, even Colin.

I've always sort of liked JG, you could even call me an apologist, if you will. But now finally I get it. Ppl call him by his first name. I can't believe I never noticed before. The blatant disrespect says it all. It's outrageous, in fact. They couldn't even be subtle about it.

You know, I still have soft spot for Jimmy tho. I hope he recovers from this insult and lands on his feet somewhere.

Calling Sam Darnold by his last name instead of "Sammy", or not calling Deshaun Watson by "D-Shaw", that's even more disrespectful. Just think of all the other Jimmy's in the NFL. It's like Garoppolo is the only one.

We do know there is only one person in the NFL with the last name of Garoppolo, but maybe it sounds too Italian for a wide swath of NFL fans.

"Hey Jimmy!. Not you Graham, I meant the REAL JIMMY. The handsome guy".

 

[drummer]

That article sounds a bit harsh and a 180 degree turnaround from what most have said about him to date, but it's a business.

I'm guessing that barring a trade (unlikely) Jimmy will be cut on August 30 when teams need to get down to a 53 player roster.

I think this is just bitterness over Garoppolo having surgery without letting the team know, and blew up any sort of trade deal because maybe Garoppolo didn't trust them to help him land in a good situation, then the market went soft,, Garoppolo went silent chosing to hang out as his favorite Hooters in the off-season, and now the 49er front office is throwing shade at him knowing a team is not going to pull the trigger on him, or waiting for someone desperate enough to.

Joe Montana demanded a trade once he saw Eddie pull shenanigans, Garoppolo getting a little stink tossed on him isn't as harsh considering.

 

[osubuckeyeman]

The Niners are doing him a disservice by holding on to him this long. Here is a player that helped you get to a Super Bowl and two NFC championship games and you decided to basically hinder his future because you mortgaged the franchise's future with a new quarterback. I'm not saying he is the greatest quarterback in the world but do him a solid and cut him now if you are going to cut him. He has earned that and he is keeping his mouth shut almost to his own detriment. He could have done a lot of damage in the media and caused a lot of issues in the offseason and maybe that would have got him cut or traded earlier. This waiting till the last day of cuts says a lot about how they feel about Jimmy G. Who cares if he goes to Seattle? You did not want him anyway. And it's clear no one is trading for him knowing you are going to cut him anyway. And if you cut him he is most likely going to Seattle anyway and still can be a pain later for you. They have like what a week and a half? Just cut him already. I hope this blows up in Shanny's face.

There's zero reason to cut him until Aug 30th. The 49ers dont owe him anything, they've already given him a way bigger contract than he deserved, and he's set for life money-wise.

Had he not opted to have offseason surgery when he did, they might have been able to trade him, but coming off surgery no team was gonna touch him, so he actually screwed the team by lowering his trade value. Now they will get nothing for him.

And who cares of he goes to Seattle? Seriously? No team is just gonna give a better than average starting QB to a division rival. I don't think anyone cares if he ends up there, but we're not gonna help them by letting him go there in time to be ready for the season. If he wants to sign there after he's cut, that's fine, but there's no reason to help him join a division rival at this point in time.

It's called doing the right thing for a player that helped your franchise and really Jimmy should have demanded a trade/cut sooner and or made himself a complete nuisance so they would do the right thing. He took the high road and the Niners are going to use him for that. So, let me understand this. A team would trade for a player that is going to need surgery? I don't think the trade value really changes whether he gets the surgery or not. The surgery was needed. The sooner the better so he can be ready to play. That might have been the only smart call Jimmy did.

 

[efactor]

The Niners are doing him a disservice by holding on to him this long. Here is a player that helped you get to a Super Bowl and two NFC championship games and you decided to basically hinder his future because you mortgaged the franchise's future with a new quarterback. I'm not saying he is the greatest quarterback in the world but do him a solid and cut him now if you are going to cut him. He has earned that and he is keeping his mouth shut almost to his own detriment. He could have done a lot of damage in the media and caused a lot of issues in the offseason and maybe that would have got him cut or traded earlier. This waiting till the last day of cuts says a lot about how they feel about Jimmy G. Who cares if he goes to Seattle? You did not want him anyway. And it's clear no one is trading for him knowing you are going to cut him anyway. And if you cut him he is most likely going to Seattle anyway and still can be a pain later for you. They have like what a week and a half? Just cut him already. I hope this blows up in Shanny's face.

There's zero reason to cut him until Aug 30th. The 49ers dont owe him anything, they've already given him a way bigger contract than he deserved, and he's set for life money-wise.

Had he not opted to have offseason surgery when he did, they might have been able to trade him, but coming off surgery no team was gonna touch him, so he actually screwed the team by lowering his trade value. Now they will get nothing for him.

And who cares of he goes to Seattle? Seriously? No team is just gonna give a better than average starting QB to a division rival. I don't think anyone cares if he ends up there, but we're not gonna help them by letting him go there in time to be ready for the season. If he wants to sign there after he's cut, that's fine, but there's no reason to help him join a division rival at this point in time.

It's called doing the right thing for a player that helped your franchise and really Jimmy should have demanded a trade/cut sooner and or made himself a complete nuisance so they would do the right thing. He took the high road and the Niners are going to use him for that. So, let me understand this. A team would trade for a player that is going to need surgery? I don't think the trade value really changes whether he gets the surgery or not. The surgery was needed. The sooner the better so he can be ready to play. That might have been the only smart call Jimmy did.

Well, I think the 49ers did quite a few things right by him. Traded for him and then gave him the highest QB contract at the time when he had just played 5 games for them. They don't owe him anything at this point. They are just playing this out to the final cutdown since they don't need the cap space before then apparently. No reason not to.

I agree that this is a little bit of payback for him having the surgery without telling them. *** for tat.

 

[Wingnut]

The Niners are doing him a disservice by holding on to him this long. Here is a player that helped you get to a Super Bowl and two NFC championship games and you decided to basically hinder his future because you mortgaged the franchise's future with a new quarterback. I'm not saying he is the greatest quarterback in the world but do him a solid and cut him now if you are going to cut him. He has earned that and he is keeping his mouth shut almost to his own detriment. He could have done a lot of damage in the media and caused a lot of issues in the offseason and maybe that would have got him cut or traded earlier. This waiting till the last day of cuts says a lot about how they feel about Jimmy G. Who cares if he goes to Seattle? You did not want him anyway. And it's clear no one is trading for him knowing you are going to cut him anyway. And if you cut him he is most likely going to Seattle anyway and still can be a pain later for you. They have like what a week and a half? Just cut him already. I hope this blows up in Shanny's face.

There's zero reason to cut him until Aug 30th. The 49ers dont owe him anything, they've already given him a way bigger contract than he deserved, and he's set for life money-wise.

Had he not opted to have offseason surgery when he did, they might have been able to trade him, but coming off surgery no team was gonna touch him, so he actually screwed the team by lowering his trade value. Now they will get nothing for him.

And who cares of he goes to Seattle? Seriously? No team is just gonna give a better than average starting QB to a division rival. I don't think anyone cares if he ends up there, but we're not gonna help them by letting him go there in time to be ready for the season. If he wants to sign there after he's cut, that's fine, but there's no reason to help him join a division rival at this point in time.

It's called doing the right thing for a player that helped your franchise and really Jimmy should have demanded a trade/cut sooner and or made himself a complete nuisance so they would do the right thing. He took the high road and the Niners are going to use him for that. So, let me understand this. A team would trade for a player that is going to need surgery? I don't think the trade value really changes whether he gets the surgery or not. The surgery was needed. The sooner the better so he can be ready to play. That might have been the only smart call Jimmy did.

They told him they wouldn't trade him to a team he didn't want to go to even though he has/had zero veto power.

That, along with the hundred million+ dollars they paid him is more than enough. He can sign wherever he wants when they cut him. It makes zero business sense to cut him before they have to.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Funny thing is I never hear anyone refer to Tom Brady as "Tom", or even "Tommy". Of course 49er fans refereed to Joe Montana as "Joe" and Steve Young as "Steve" (as in Joe vs. Steve). Maybe because "Jimmy" is easier to type than "Garoppolo".

Yet no one called "Druckenmiller" by his first name, and added two more letters to it.

Never saw any Jeff, Tim, Alex, Trent, Shaun, even Colin.

I've always sort of liked JG, you could even call me an apologist, if you will. But now finally I get it. Ppl call him by his first name. I can't believe I never noticed before. The blatant disrespect says it all. It's outrageous, in fact. They couldn't even be subtle about it.

You know, I still have soft spot for Jimmy tho. I hope he recovers from this insult and lands on his feet somewhere.

Calling Sam Darnold by his last name instead of "Sammy", or not calling Deshaun Watson by "D-Shaw", that's even more disrespectful. Just think of all the other Jimmy's in the NFL. It's like Garoppolo is the only one.

We do know there is only one person in the NFL with the last name of Garoppolo, but maybe it sounds too Italian for a wide swath of NFL fans.

"Hey Jimmy!. Not you Graham, I meant the REAL JIMMY. The handsome guy".

Too Italian?

 

[Chaka]

The Niners are doing him a disservice by holding on to him this long. Here is a player that helped you get to a Super Bowl and two NFC championship games and you decided to basically hinder his future because you mortgaged the franchise's future with a new quarterback. I'm not saying he is the greatest quarterback in the world but do him a solid and cut him now if you are going to cut him. He has earned that and he is keeping his mouth shut almost to his own detriment. He could have done a lot of damage in the media and caused a lot of issues in the offseason and maybe that would have got him cut or traded earlier. This waiting till the last day of cuts says a lot about how they feel about Jimmy G. Who cares if he goes to Seattle? You did not want him anyway. And it's clear no one is trading for him knowing you are going to cut him anyway. And if you cut him he is most likely going to Seattle anyway and still can be a pain later for you. They have like what a week and a half? Just cut him already. I hope this blows up in Shanny's face.

There's zero reason to cut him until Aug 30th. The 49ers dont owe him anything, they've already given him a way bigger contract than he deserved, and he's set for life money-wise.

Had he not opted to have offseason surgery when he did, they might have been able to trade him, but coming off surgery no team was gonna touch him, so he actually screwed the team by lowering his trade value. Now they will get nothing for him.

And who cares of he goes to Seattle? Seriously? No team is just gonna give a better than average starting QB to a division rival. I don't think anyone cares if he ends up there, but we're not gonna help them by letting him go there in time to be ready for the season. If he wants to sign there after he's cut, that's fine, but there's no reason to help him join a division rival at this point in time.

It's called doing the right thing for a player that helped your franchise and really Jimmy should have demanded a trade/cut sooner and or made himself a complete nuisance so they would do the right thing. He took the high road and the Niners are going to use him for that. So, let me understand this. A team would trade for a player that is going to need surgery? I don't think the trade value really changes whether he gets the surgery or not. The surgery was needed. The sooner the better so he can be ready to play. That might have been the only smart call Jimmy did.

They told him they wouldn't trade him to a team he didn't want to go to even though he has/had zero veto power.

That, along with the hundred million+ dollars they paid him is more than enough. He can sign wherever he wants when they cut him. It makes zero business sense to cut him before they have to.

There isn't much value in keeping him either, waiting on an injury is their only hope.

It's not uncommon for teams to do solids for veterans who have added value to the team. Not going after signing bonuses after retirement, letting them negotiate trades, waiving them when they don't absolutely have to, etc. None of these things is unprecedented.

Even if you think he isn't a good QB the fact remains that he was 31-14 (4-2 in the playoffs) and the Niners contended for championships when he was in the lineup.

Wouldn't be out of character for a team to do a solid for a guy like that.

 

[massraider]

Too Italian?

I mean....it's a thing

 

[Wingnut]

The Niners are doing him a disservice by holding on to him this long. Here is a player that helped you get to a Super Bowl and two NFC championship games and you decided to basically hinder his future because you mortgaged the franchise's future with a new quarterback. I'm not saying he is the greatest quarterback in the world but do him a solid and cut him now if you are going to cut him. He has earned that and he is keeping his mouth shut almost to his own detriment. He could have done a lot of damage in the media and caused a lot of issues in the offseason and maybe that would have got him cut or traded earlier. This waiting till the last day of cuts says a lot about how they feel about Jimmy G. Who cares if he goes to Seattle? You did not want him anyway. And it's clear no one is trading for him knowing you are going to cut him anyway. And if you cut him he is most likely going to Seattle anyway and still can be a pain later for you. They have like what a week and a half? Just cut him already. I hope this blows up in Shanny's face.

There's zero reason to cut him until Aug 30th. The 49ers dont owe him anything, they've already given him a way bigger contract than he deserved, and he's set for life money-wise.

Had he not opted to have offseason surgery when he did, they might have been able to trade him, but coming off surgery no team was gonna touch him, so he actually screwed the team by lowering his trade value. Now they will get nothing for him.

And who cares of he goes to Seattle? Seriously? No team is just gonna give a better than average starting QB to a division rival. I don't think anyone cares if he ends up there, but we're not gonna help them by letting him go there in time to be ready for the season. If he wants to sign there after he's cut, that's fine, but there's no reason to help him join a division rival at this point in time.

It's called doing the right thing for a player that helped your franchise and really Jimmy should have demanded a trade/cut sooner and or made himself a complete nuisance so they would do the right thing. He took the high road and the Niners are going to use him for that. So, let me understand this. A team would trade for a player that is going to need surgery? I don't think the trade value really changes whether he gets the surgery or not. The surgery was needed. The sooner the better so he can be ready to play. That might have been the only smart call Jimmy did.

They told him they wouldn't trade him to a team he didn't want to go to even though he has/had zero veto power.

That, along with the hundred million+ dollars they paid him is more than enough. He can sign wherever he wants when they cut him. It makes zero business sense to cut him before they have to.

There isn't much value in keeping him either, waiting on an injury is their only hope.

They're keeping him until the last possible day before theyd have to pay him. Theyd be dumb to release him now and do Pete Carroll a favor.

 

[Wingnut]

Report: Jimmy doesn't own 49ers playbook, nor attend meetings

Report: Jimmy doesn't own 49ers playbook, nor attend meetings

Jimmy Garoppolo finds himself in an awkward position at 49ers training camp.

www.nbcsports.com

While the 49ers continue to play the Jimmy Garoppolo waiting game, the veteran quarterback finds himself in an awkward position at training camp.W

“When the other 89 men on the San Francisco roster are practicing outside, Garoppolo is usually inside, or on his way home,” Peter King said “I heard he does not have a playbook, does not attend quarterback or team meetings and barely knows new quarterbacks coach Brian Griese.”

As San Francisco gets deeper into its preseason schedule, the 49ers’ plan for Garoppolo has not changed. The team will either trade Garoppolo to a club in need of stability under center or release the veteran quarterback by the time rosters are trimmed from 80 players down to 53 on Aug. 30.

The 49ers are incentivized to keep Garoppolo away from team meetings and from learning the latest tweaks to coach Kyle Shanahan’s playbook in case he winds up on the roster of a rival team like the Seattle Seahawks, currently hosting a rather unexciting quarterback battle between Drew Lock and Geno Smith.

 

[Chaka]

The Niners are doing him a disservice by holding on to him this long. Here is a player that helped you get to a Super Bowl and two NFC championship games and you decided to basically hinder his future because you mortgaged the franchise's future with a new quarterback. I'm not saying he is the greatest quarterback in the world but do him a solid and cut him now if you are going to cut him. He has earned that and he is keeping his mouth shut almost to his own detriment. He could have done a lot of damage in the media and caused a lot of issues in the offseason and maybe that would have got him cut or traded earlier. This waiting till the last day of cuts says a lot about how they feel about Jimmy G. Who cares if he goes to Seattle? You did not want him anyway. And it's clear no one is trading for him knowing you are going to cut him anyway. And if you cut him he is most likely going to Seattle anyway and still can be a pain later for you. They have like what a week and a half? Just cut him already. I hope this blows up in Shanny's face.

There's zero reason to cut him until Aug 30th. The 49ers dont owe him anything, they've already given him a way bigger contract than he deserved, and he's set for life money-wise.

Had he not opted to have offseason surgery when he did, they might have been able to trade him, but coming off surgery no team was gonna touch him, so he actually screwed the team by lowering his trade value. Now they will get nothing for him.

And who cares of he goes to Seattle? Seriously? No team is just gonna give a better than average starting QB to a division rival. I don't think anyone cares if he ends up there, but we're not gonna help them by letting him go there in time to be ready for the season. If he wants to sign there after he's cut, that's fine, but there's no reason to help him join a division rival at this point in time.

It's called doing the right thing for a player that helped your franchise and really Jimmy should have demanded a trade/cut sooner and or made himself a complete nuisance so they would do the right thing. He took the high road and the Niners are going to use him for that. So, let me understand this. A team would trade for a player that is going to need surgery? I don't think the trade value really changes whether he gets the surgery or not. The surgery was needed. The sooner the better so he can be ready to play. That might have been the only smart call Jimmy did.

They told him they wouldn't trade him to a team he didn't want to go to even though he has/had zero veto power.

That, along with the hundred million+ dollars they paid him is more than enough. He can sign wherever he wants when they cut him. It makes zero business sense to cut him before they have to.

There isn't much value in keeping him either, waiting on an injury is their only hope.

They're keeping him until the last possible day before theyd have to pay him. Theyd be dumb to release him now and do Pete Carroll a favor.

Yeah, I see that although I am not certain at this point in the off-season Garappolo has a realistic chance of supplanting any starter who has been in the program from the jump. Even Geno Smith and Drew Lock.

I have believed for awhile now that when released Garappolo will target an apprenticeship situation with a great offensive coach and established starter. Similar to what Trubisky did last season.

If you go to a bad team, without the ability to be comfortable in the offense until mid season at earliest you're going to put out bad film and likely not get another shot at a starting gig next season. Maybe not ever.

You go apprentice with Sean McVay and Matthew Stafford, then next season more people are likely to still see the 37-16 QB who got to study under a genius for a season.

But who really knows? Certainly not me.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Too Italian?

I mean....it's a thing

Didn’t Franco Harris break the guido barrier?

 

[drummer]

Funny thing is I never hear anyone refer to Tom Brady as "Tom", or even "Tommy". Of course 49er fans refereed to Joe Montana as "Joe" and Steve Young as "Steve" (as in Joe vs. Steve). Maybe because "Jimmy" is easier to type than "Garoppolo".

Yet no one called "Druckenmiller" by his first name, and added two more letters to it.

Never saw any Jeff, Tim, Alex, Trent, Shaun, even Colin.

I've always sort of liked JG, you could even call me an apologist, if you will. But now finally I get it. Ppl call him by his first name. I can't believe I never noticed before. The blatant disrespect says it all. It's outrageous, in fact. They couldn't even be subtle about it.

You know, I still have soft spot for Jimmy tho. I hope he recovers from this insult and lands on his feet somewhere.

Calling Sam Darnold by his last name instead of "Sammy", or not calling Deshaun Watson by "D-Shaw", that's even more disrespectful. Just think of all the other Jimmy's in the NFL. It's like Garoppolo is the only one.

We do know there is only one person in the NFL with the last name of Garoppolo, but maybe it sounds too Italian for a wide swath of NFL fans.

"Hey Jimmy!. Not you Graham, I meant the REAL JIMMY. The handsome guy".

Too Italian?

Even an Italian named Johnny has a Roast Beef attached - Johnny Roast Beef.

Maybe call him Jimmy Two Times "I'm gonna throw an interception, interception".

Ga-rop-po-lo. John-ny-roast-beef. Jim-my-two-times.

 

[drummer]

Too Italian?

I mean....it's a thing

What thing? That Brooklyn things?

 

[drummer]

The Niners are doing him a disservice by holding on to him this long. Here is a player that helped you get to a Super Bowl and two NFC championship games and you decided to basically hinder his future because you mortgaged the franchise's future with a new quarterback. I'm not saying he is the greatest quarterback in the world but do him a solid and cut him now if you are going to cut him. He has earned that and he is keeping his mouth shut almost to his own detriment. He could have done a lot of damage in the media and caused a lot of issues in the offseason and maybe that would have got him cut or traded earlier. This waiting till the last day of cuts says a lot about how they feel about Jimmy G. Who cares if he goes to Seattle? You did not want him anyway. And it's clear no one is trading for him knowing you are going to cut him anyway. And if you cut him he is most likely going to Seattle anyway and still can be a pain later for you. They have like what a week and a half? Just cut him already. I hope this blows up in Shanny's face.

There's zero reason to cut him until Aug 30th. The 49ers dont owe him anything, they've already given him a way bigger contract than he deserved, and he's set for life money-wise.

Had he not opted to have offseason surgery when he did, they might have been able to trade him, but coming off surgery no team was gonna touch him, so he actually screwed the team by lowering his trade value. Now they will get nothing for him.

And who cares of he goes to Seattle? Seriously? No team is just gonna give a better than average starting QB to a division rival. I don't think anyone cares if he ends up there, but we're not gonna help them by letting him go there in time to be ready for the season. If he wants to sign there after he's cut, that's fine, but there's no reason to help him join a division rival at this point in time.

It's called doing the right thing for a player that helped your franchise and really Jimmy should have demanded a trade/cut sooner and or made himself a complete nuisance so they would do the right thing. He took the high road and the Niners are going to use him for that. So, let me understand this. A team would trade for a player that is going to need surgery? I don't think the trade value really changes whether he gets the surgery or not. The surgery was needed. The sooner the better so he can be ready to play. That might have been the only smart call Jimmy did.

They told him they wouldn't trade him to a team he didn't want to go to even though he has/had zero veto power.

That, along with the hundred million+ dollars they paid him is more than enough. He can sign wherever he wants when they cut him. It makes zero business sense to cut him before they have to.

There isn't much value in keeping him either, waiting on an injury is their only hope.

It's not uncommon for teams to do solids for veterans who have added value to the team. Not going after signing bonuses after retirement, letting them negotiate trades, waiving them when they don't absolutely have to, etc. None of these things is unprecedented.

Even if you think he isn't a good QB the fact remains that he was 31-14 (4-2 in the playoffs) and the Niners contended for championships when he was in the lineup.

Wouldn't be out of character for a team to do a solid for a guy like that.

Alex Smith in his only post season with the 49ers threw 5 TDs to 0 INTs. One single post season.

Garoppolo in two 49er post seasons - 4 TDs, 6 INTs.

Just because we have to add Colin Kaepernick passing TDs in the same - 7 TDs, 5 INTs.

I am not including rushing TDs here just because.

Maybe Garoppolo is at the point where he only best season as a starter where he played a full regular season schedule may also very well be the only season where he played a full regualr season schedule.

27 TDs, 13 INTs, 3978 yards, 67.1 cmp%, whatever "absolutely lethal stats" Lombardi pulls out of his rear end.

That's his best season in his entire career so far.

And he is 30 years old, oft injured, just had shoulder surgery, and his "Air Yards" were not even up to snuff with Drew Lock's.

The 49ers have a huge "As is" sign on him, but his sticker price still says "Hardly any mileage" on it.

Unless there is a GM named Clark Griswold willing to buy him off the scrap heap, other GM's figure he is only good for a certain amount of games before he goes back on IR, so just wait until he is cut, and know if there is a chance he might have to start it's just for placeholder reasons.

 

[drummer]

Browns won't trade for 49ers' Jimmy G after Watson suspension

The 49ers might be running out of options with Jimmy G.

www.sfgate.com

The Niners have indicated that they are done with the Garoppolo era. Sources have begun leaking negative things about the quarterback on his way out, and the team has turned all of its attention to second-year quarterback Trey Lance to lead the offense this upcoming season.


Despite playing coy at first, the Niners have wanted nothing more than to move on from Garoppolo, especially since his postseason surgery surprised the team at the beginning of the offseason. This may not be the way the team wanted it to happen, but barring a catastrophic QB injury elsewhere, this perhaps brings them closer to a sole solution to their problem.

 

[jm192]

9ers going to have themselves a nice backup QB.

 

[drummer]

Kurtenbach: The writing is on the wall for Jimmy Garoppolo and the 49ers. It’s embarrassing

If Jimmy Garoppolo isn’t traded to the Cleveland Browns, then he won’t be traded at all.

www.eastbaytimes.com

If the 49ers cannot sell the Cleveland Browns on trading for Jimmy Garoppolo now, then the Niners’ quarterback cannot be sold.


And seeing as how the Browns don’t seem to have any interest in Garoppolo as of Thursday morning, that means we’re nearing the end of the quarterback’s time in the Bay, most likely with his release before or on Aug. 30.


How embarrassing.


Garoppolo deserves some blame in the mess — his March shoulder surgery certainly didn’t help his trade value — but there’s no escaping that the 49ers have spent months actively trying to trade Garoppolo and more than a year being open to offers. They came up with nothing.


And so general manager John Lynch and head coach Kyle Shanahan waited, holding onto their former starting quarterback, hoping one of the league’s other teams would develop a late need for a player of his caliber. The Browns, who run the same offensive system as the Niners, were seen as an ideal trade partner with the Watson suspension looming.


Now that Watson’s suspension is here, one would expect talks between the Niners and Browns to heat up.


So far, there’s no smoke. I don’t expect that to change.

 

[joey]

Too Italian?

I mean....it's a thing

What thing? That Brooklyn things?

for the record...I resemble all these comments.

(except the impossibly handsome part)

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Funny thing is I never hear anyone refer to Tom Brady as "Tom", or even "Tommy". Of course 49er fans refereed to Joe Montana as "Joe" and Steve Young as "Steve" (as in Joe vs. Steve). Maybe because "Jimmy" is easier to type than "Garoppolo".

Yet no one called "Druckenmiller" by his first name, and added two more letters to it.

Never saw any Jeff, Tim, Alex, Trent, Shaun, even Colin.

I've always sort of liked JG, you could even call me an apologist, if you will. But now finally I get it. Ppl call him by his first name. I can't believe I never noticed before. The blatant disrespect says it all. It's outrageous, in fact. They couldn't even be subtle about it.

You know, I still have soft spot for Jimmy tho. I hope he recovers from this insult and lands on his feet somewhere.

Calling Sam Darnold by his last name instead of "Sammy", or not calling Deshaun Watson by "D-Shaw", that's even more disrespectful. Just think of all the other Jimmy's in the NFL. It's like Garoppolo is the only one.

We do know there is only one person in the NFL with the last name of Garoppolo, but maybe it sounds too Italian for a wide swath of NFL fans.

"Hey Jimmy!. Not you Graham, I meant the REAL JIMMY. The handsome guy".

Too Italian?

Even an Italian named Johnny has a Roast Beef attached - Johnny Roast Beef.

Maybe call him Jimmy Two Times "I'm gonna throw an interception, interception".

Ga-rop-po-lo. John-ny-roast-beef. Jim-my-two-times.

Oh, you’re a glue sniffer.

 

[osubuckeyeman]

The Niners are doing him a disservice by holding on to him this long. Here is a player that helped you get to a Super Bowl and two NFC championship games and you decided to basically hinder his future because you mortgaged the franchise's future with a new quarterback. I'm not saying he is the greatest quarterback in the world but do him a solid and cut him now if you are going to cut him. He has earned that and he is keeping his mouth shut almost to his own detriment. He could have done a lot of damage in the media and caused a lot of issues in the offseason and maybe that would have got him cut or traded earlier. This waiting till the last day of cuts says a lot about how they feel about Jimmy G. Who cares if he goes to Seattle? You did not want him anyway. And it's clear no one is trading for him knowing you are going to cut him anyway. And if you cut him he is most likely going to Seattle anyway and still can be a pain later for you. They have like what a week and a half? Just cut him already. I hope this blows up in Shanny's face.

There's zero reason to cut him until Aug 30th. The 49ers dont owe him anything, they've already given him a way bigger contract than he deserved, and he's set for life money-wise.

Had he not opted to have offseason surgery when he did, they might have been able to trade him, but coming off surgery no team was gonna touch him, so he actually screwed the team by lowering his trade value. Now they will get nothing for him.

And who cares of he goes to Seattle? Seriously? No team is just gonna give a better than average starting QB to a division rival. I don't think anyone cares if he ends up there, but we're not gonna help them by letting him go there in time to be ready for the season. If he wants to sign there after he's cut, that's fine, but there's no reason to help him join a division rival at this point in time.

It's called doing the right thing for a player that helped your franchise and really Jimmy should have demanded a trade/cut sooner and or made himself a complete nuisance so they would do the right thing. He took the high road and the Niners are going to use him for that. So, let me understand this. A team would trade for a player that is going to need surgery? I don't think the trade value really changes whether he gets the surgery or not. The surgery was needed. The sooner the better so he can be ready to play. That might have been the only smart call Jimmy did.

They told him they wouldn't trade him to a team he didn't want to go to even though he has/had zero veto power.

That, along with the hundred million+ dollars they paid him is more than enough. He can sign wherever he wants when they cut him. It makes zero business sense to cut him before they have to.

There isn't much value in keeping him either, waiting on an injury is their only hope.

It's not uncommon for teams to do solids for veterans who have added value to the team. Not going after signing bonuses after retirement, letting them negotiate trades, waiving them when they don't absolutely have to, etc. None of these things is unprecedented.

Even if you think he isn't a good QB the fact remains that he was 31-14 (4-2 in the playoffs) and the Niners contended for championships when he was in the lineup.

Wouldn't be out of character for a team to do a solid for a guy like that.

Alex Smith in his only post season with the 49ers threw 5 TDs to 0 INTs. One single post season.

Garoppolo in two 49er post seasons - 4 TDs, 6 INTs.

Just because we have to add Colin Kaepernick passing TDs in the same - 7 TDs, 5 INTs.

I am not including rushing TDs here just because.

Maybe Garoppolo is at the point where he only best season as a starter where he played a full regular season schedule may also very well be the only season where he played a full regualr season schedule.

27 TDs, 13 INTs, 3978 yards, 67.1 cmp%, whatever "absolutely lethal stats" Lombardi pulls out of his rear end.

That's his best season in his entire career so far.

And he is 30 years old, oft injured, just had shoulder surgery, and his "Air Yards" were not even up to snuff with Drew Lock's.

The 49ers have a huge "As is" sign on him, but his sticker price still says "Hardly any mileage" on it.

Unless there is a GM named Clark Griswold willing to buy him off the scrap heap, other GM's figure he is only good for a certain amount of games before he goes back on IR, so just wait until he is cut, and know if there is a chance he might have to start it's just for placeholder reasons.

Or they can just wait till he is cut and get him on their terms without giving up any assets.

 

[zamboni]

9ers going to have themselves a nice backup QB.

I doubt it - at least at the current price. Seems like the relationship is fractured and keeping him around would be pretty divisive in the organization.

 

[Chaka]

The odd part is if the Niners are holding onto him in the hope of extracting value if another team suddenly needs a QB then why put him in blast with the entire league?

That's stupid and spiteful.

 

[osubuckeyeman]

The odd part is if the Niners are holding onto him in the hope of extracting value if another team suddenly needs a QB then why put him in blast with the entire league?

That's stupid and spiteful.

They know they are not going to be able to trade him and want to put him on blast. I also find this odd behavior. Of course, we all could be dead.

 

[Chaka]

The odd part is if the Niners are holding onto him in the hope of extracting value if another team suddenly needs a QB then why put him in blast with the entire league?

That's stupid and spiteful.

They know they are not going to be able to trade him and want to put him on blast. I also find this odd behavior. Of course, we all could be dead.

<Keanu>Whoa</Keanu>

 

[Dr. Octopus]

The odd part is if the Niners are holding onto him in the hope of extracting value if another team suddenly needs a QB then why put him in blast with the entire league?

That's stupid and spiteful.

The Browns did the same with Baker. It’s counterintuitive for sure.

 

[Deamon]

Does it even make sense for Cleve to trade for him now that it's a very expensive rental for 11 games?

 

[drummer]

Funny thing is I never hear anyone refer to Tom Brady as "Tom", or even "Tommy". Of course 49er fans refereed to Joe Montana as "Joe" and Steve Young as "Steve" (as in Joe vs. Steve). Maybe because "Jimmy" is easier to type than "Garoppolo".

Yet no one called "Druckenmiller" by his first name, and added two more letters to it.

Never saw any Jeff, Tim, Alex, Trent, Shaun, even Colin.

I've always sort of liked JG, you could even call me an apologist, if you will. But now finally I get it. Ppl call him by his first name. I can't believe I never noticed before. The blatant disrespect says it all. It's outrageous, in fact. They couldn't even be subtle about it.

You know, I still have soft spot for Jimmy tho. I hope he recovers from this insult and lands on his feet somewhere.

Calling Sam Darnold by his last name instead of "Sammy", or not calling Deshaun Watson by "D-Shaw", that's even more disrespectful. Just think of all the other Jimmy's in the NFL. It's like Garoppolo is the only one.

We do know there is only one person in the NFL with the last name of Garoppolo, but maybe it sounds too Italian for a wide swath of NFL fans.

"Hey Jimmy!. Not you Graham, I meant the REAL JIMMY. The handsome guy".

Too Italian?

Even an Italian named Johnny has a Roast Beef attached - Johnny Roast Beef.

Maybe call him Jimmy Two Times "I'm gonna throw an interception, interception".

Ga-rop-po-lo. John-ny-roast-beef. Jim-my-two-times.

Oh, you’re a glue sniffer.

I don't know where you're going with this, and neither do you.

 

[drummer]

The odd part is if the Niners are holding onto him in the hope of extracting value if another team suddenly needs a QB then why put him in blast with the entire league?

That's stupid and spiteful.

Welcome to Maratheball.

 

[Wingnut]

Does it even make sense for Cleve to trade for him now that it's a very expensive rental for 11 games?

Not at this point IMO. Even if it's a similar system, he's had zero training camp other than throwing...it would take time to get in football shape, learn the offense, develop chemistry, etc...by the time he was up to speed and worth the trouble, it would prob be week 4 or 5, so you've really only got him as a viable starter for 5 or 6 weeks before Watson comes back.

They'd be paying a lot of money for an average to above average starter for not a lot of games. I don't see Cleveland being interested at all.

 

[Anarchy99]

Does it even make sense for Cleve to trade for him now that it's a very expensive rental for 11 games?

Not at this point IMO. Even if it's a similar system, he's had zero training camp other than throwing...it would take time to get in football shape, learn the offense, develop chemistry, etc...by the time he was up to speed and worth the trouble, it would prob be week 4 or 5, so you've really only got him as a viable starter for 5 or 6 weeks before Watson comes back.

They'd be paying a lot of money for an average to above average starter for not a lot of games. I don't see Cleveland being interested at all.

We don’t know what we don’t know. It’s possible JG will be released and could be available for low dollars and no picks. And we also don’t know for certain that DW will be back for Game 12. He has to adhere to the counseling provisions as stated in the agreement. What we do know is that JB is not a legit NFL starting QB. He’s a patchwork quilt to get teams by, but he hasn’t shown that he can win more games than he loses.

If the goal is to make the playoffs, IMO, CLE would stand a much better chance with Jimmy than Jacoby. I think if they stick with Brissett they will struggle to
be a .500 team.

 

[Wingnut]

It’s possible JG will be released and could be available for low dollars and no picks. And we also don’t know for certain that DW will be back for Game 12. He has to adhere to the counseling provisions as stated in the agreement. What we do know is that JB is not a legit NFL starting QB. He’s a patchwork quilt to get teams by, but he hasn’t shown that he can win more games than he loses.

If the goal is to make the playoffs, IMO, CLE would stand a much better chance with Jimmy than Jacoby. I think if they stick with Brissett they will struggle to

Yeah, if they wait til he's released and then sign him relatively cheap, I could see that.

I think he goes the Trubisky route and signs a one year deal somewhere as a backup and then hits the market running next offseason. A lot can change in a year for a lot of teams, and once again several of them will be looking for a QB.

 

[drummer]

More on the "Weird Garoppolo in Limbo" thingy. This was posted on Twitter just last Monday:

https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1559345639720452100

I don't know how huge Sharp Football is on Twitter, but this along with the "Air Yards" tweet and the other negative press Garoppolo is receiving is not that strange, it's more like truth telling myth busting.