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QB Justin Fields, NYJ (3 Viewers)

Disappointing Fields won't get the same playbook two years in a row. Despite that, I do think the pieces are there for Fields to put up some nice fantasy production. OL is probably an upgrade as well as the running back threat. WR is a big upgrade from Pittsburgh. Feels like JF will be a nice value pick in drafts with excellent upside for a later round selection.
 
I love the spot for him and for fantasy. And for the Jets. Will forever hate my Bears for not getting better value for him. And am continuing to root for him big time. That sucks though because now I have to actually get involved in the Jets circles. Feeeeeeck. Well ok so only scouting thing I'll say from having watched him closely since he came into the league as a Bear - he has gotten consistently better every year and is still super young and an athlete that should have the ball in his hands as much as possible. He still needs to improve on how to slide and go down in certain situations, but he has improved on that as well. This will be the best offense he has had a chance to lead, and correct me if I'm wrong and I refuse to scroll up but he isn't really expected to have any competition for the job is he, beyond coachspeak perhaps? There is a lot of good reason to believe he could really ball out this year. Feeeeeeeck.

Can't scream loud enough how dumb the entire Bears organization was for Fields. Pittsburgh had other plans and I do think Wilson was always going to be the starter because of politics but that aside NYJ is an outstanding organization on the other hand. Lol holy crap that was fun to type. Ugh ok but that offense has weapons for sure. Feeeeeeeck.
 
barackdhouse said:
I love the spot for him and for fantasy. And for the Jets. Will forever hate my Bears for not getting better value for him. And am continuing to root for him big time. That sucks though because now I have to actually get involved in the Jets circles. Feeeeeeck. Well ok so only scouting thing I'll say from having watched him closely since he came into the league as a Bear - he has gotten consistently better every year and is still super young and an athlete that should have the ball in his hands as much as possible. He still needs to improve on how to slide and go down in certain situations, but he has improved on that as well. This will be the best offense he has had a chance to lead, and correct me if I'm wrong and I refuse to scroll up but he isn't really expected to have any competition for the job is he, beyond coachspeak perhaps? There is a lot of good reason to believe he could really ball out this year. Feeeeeeeck.

Can't scream loud enough how dumb the entire Bears organization was for Fields. Pittsburgh had other plans and I do think Wilson was always going to be the starter because of politics but that aside NYJ is an outstanding organization on the other hand. Lol holy crap that was fun to type. Ugh ok but that offense has weapons for sure. Feeeeeeeck.
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Fields was treated criminally during his Bears career. I was in the camp that supported trading the #1 for a haul and having patience with Fields. That said, Shane Waldron and another year of Flus would have been terrible for Fields. I'm glad he got out of that situation and hopefully learned a good bit in Pittsburgh.

I'm also with you in that I hope he does really well, not to spite the Bears but because he seems like a really good teammate and person.
 
InDitkaWeTrust said:
barackdhouse said:
I love the spot for him and for fantasy. And for the Jets. Will forever hate my Bears for not getting better value for him. And am continuing to root for him big time. That sucks though because now I have to actually get involved in the Jets circles. Feeeeeeck. Well ok so only scouting thing I'll say from having watched him closely since he came into the league as a Bear - he has gotten consistently better every year and is still super young and an athlete that should have the ball in his hands as much as possible. He still needs to improve on how to slide and go down in certain situations, but he has improved on that as well. This will be the best offense he has had a chance to lead, and correct me if I'm wrong and I refuse to scroll up but he isn't really expected to have any competition for the job is he, beyond coachspeak perhaps? There is a lot of good reason to believe he could really ball out this year. Feeeeeeeck.

Can't scream loud enough how dumb the entire Bears organization was for Fields. Pittsburgh had other plans and I do think Wilson was always going to be the starter because of politics but that aside NYJ is an outstanding organization on the other hand. Lol holy crap that was fun to type. Ugh ok but that offense has weapons for sure. Feeeeeeeck.
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Fields was treated criminally during his Bears career. I was in the camp that supported trading the #1 for a haul and having patience with Fields. That said, Shane Waldron and another year of Flus would have been terrible for Fields. I'm glad he got out of that situation and hopefully learned a good bit in Pittsburgh.

I'm also with you in that I hope he does really well, not to spite the Bears but because he seems like a really good teammate and person.
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Hot Sauce Guy said:
barackdhouse said:
NYJ is an outstanding organization
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Jury's out on this one.
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Jury is eating nachos and telling jokes just to string things along so it looks like they deliberated for a long enough time. You can't come back to the judge with a verdict after like 10 minutes. Which is more than it should take to come to a unanimous decision that the Jets are possibly the #1 contender for most dysfunctional.
 
LawFitz said:
My fanship of Fields remains. As does my belief that in the right situation he could develop into a player similar to Jalen Hurts. Hopefully the Jets provide it.
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My hope is that the Jets try to create a similar offensive style to the Eagles for him. They've got work to do putting the talent around him, but it's not barren either.
 
Enzo....the Baker said:
The Jets are terrible....There is going to be tons of garbage yards and points to be had with Fields. As long as they just let him ride it out. No sense in plugging in Tyrod either, they know what he is.
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Are the Jets terrible though?

I know Sauce has his worst season, but they still have quite a bit of talent on defense (Quinnen, Quincy, Sherwood, JJ, WMIII). They’ve invested in their OL and GW/BH are more than solid building blocks at the skill positions.

I understand the ‘rancid’ organization aspect of who they are. But they’re not devoid of talent by any means.
 
TheDirtyWord said:
Enzo....the Baker said:
The Jets are terrible....There is going to be tons of garbage yards and points to be had with Fields. As long as they just let him ride it out. No sense in plugging in Tyrod either, they know what he is.
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Are the Jets terrible though?

I know Sauce has his worst season, but they still have quite a bit of talent on defense (Quinnen, Quincy, Sherwood, JJ, WMIII). They’ve invested in their OL and GW/BH are more than solid building blocks at the skill positions.

I understand the ‘rancid’ organization aspect of who they are. But they’re not devoid of talent by any means.
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jets are an easy punching bag but they are certainly not devoid of talent. They could have easily won 8-9 games last year with a competent coaching staff and kicker. Buy on the crater like dip
 
Yes perennial punching bags. The NFL should combine the 2 NY franchises so that there's a chance for a NY team to go 9-8. ;)
 
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I didn't watch much of his time in PIT last year. Fields is (for now) and enigma in terms of fit vs development.

Intangibles- 8/10
Arm strength- 8/10
Physical attributes as a runner- 9/10

One would think that the initial eval leaned on that the intangibles should have been a foundation for growth of his weaknesses.

Processing speed- 3/10
Release speed- 3/10

By all accounts, he works hard and seems to be able to demonstrate and understanding of concepts but in real time, the game seems too quick for him. I've always wondered why if the intangibles are so high, how come he can't just dedicate himself 100% to emulating Brady. Diagnose the possibilities of how the play might unfold, how the coverage might shift and be prepared to make a quick decision and fire. How has he not reached the conclusion that not focusing 100% of his prep time on that aspect of his game has literally cost him a brinks truck.

On the flip side, how come head coaches and OCs can't seem to figure out how to maximize his immense physical talents and develop a game plan around him. Sort of the reverse corollary of what Waldman always accused Baltimore of with Lamar in terms of not flexing into Lamar's strengths as a pocket passer. Why not design an offense primarily around what Fields actually does well. I haven't studied this on some deep level but it's clear that everyone seems perpetually unable to figure out fit.

Maybe the simplest explanation is that both of these efforts have been largely burned through. He just can't elevate his game and the fixed ceiling has been reached.
 
greenmountaingoat said:
I didn't watch much of his time in PIT last year. Fields is (for now) and enigma in terms of fit vs development.

Intangibles- 8/10
Arm strength- 8/10
Physical attributes as a runner- 9/10

One would think that the initial eval leaned on that the intangibles should have been a foundation for growth of his weaknesses.

Processing speed- 3/10
Release speed- 3/10

By all accounts, he works hard and seems to be able to demonstrate and understanding of concepts but in real time, the game seems too quick for him. I've always wondered why if the intangibles are so high, how come he can't just dedicate himself 100% to emulating Brady. Diagnose the possibilities of how the play might unfold, how the coverage might shift and be prepared to make a quick decision and fire. How has he not reached the conclusion that not focusing 100% of his prep time on that aspect of his game has literally cost him a brinks truck.

On the flip side, how come head coaches and OCs can't seem to figure out how to maximize his immense physical talents and develop a game plan around him. Sort of the reverse corollary of what Waldman always accused Baltimore of with Lamar in terms of not flexing into Lamar's strengths as a pocket passer. Why not design an offense primarily around what Fields actually does well. I haven't studied this on some deep level but it's clear that everyone seems perpetually unable to figure out fit.

Maybe the simplest explanation is that both of these efforts have been largely burned through. He just can't elevate his game and the fixed ceiling has been reached.
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I don't think you can discount situation.

He fell in the draft in large part because it was thought he needed development and wasn't ready to come in right away. As such, the Bears all off-season had committed to Andy Dalton as rtheir 2021 starter. But the season went off the rails for a HC who was dead man walking - Matt Nagy. So Fields was plopped in there.

Instead of hiring a Ben Johnson type like they just did for Caleb, they hired Eberflus who was in over his head from the moment he was hired. The OC who was brought on was Luke Getsy who has done little to distinguish himself and has burned through 2 OC jobs in 3 years.

So last year he goes to PIT. I think an honest assessment of his play was that he had improved, but perhaps not to levels that his ceiling back when he was drafted indicated was possible. At the same time, a 6 game audition is awfully brief. For instance, through 6 games in 2023 - Jordan Love had the following stat line...111/193 1263 10/7; hardly an indicator of how he played the final 11.

I'm not saying Fields will blossom...only that the situations he's been finding himself in have been definitively him swimming upstream. Tanner Engstrand is a new OC, but his pedigree under Ben Johnson portends at least a prolific mindset versus what he's operated under. At the same time, NFL career build grooves and Fields is 5 years in...so it's possible that he just won't and can't speed his processing up to be an NFL caliber drop back passer snap-to-snap.

But this is as good an outcome and situation as he's ever had by a long shot.
 
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travdogg said:
I think there is a good chance we look back a year from now and say that Fields was the best QB in FA this offseason.
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maybe. maybe not.

there is no question, he was a better QB in Pittsburgh than we have seen prior to that time. but he still needs to grow his game. good news is.... hes young enough that it can still legitimately happen. but the team needs to take the steps to make sure he is successful. It looks like the head coach comes from a defensive background, so its really all about the OC. Engstrand seems to have done well in Detroit. but I dont know enough about the guy to say hes gonna be good. taking a developed product (goff) and having success there is different than developing a player. I honestly dont know if he has that skillset. I hope he does.

only time will tell.
 
JohnnyU said:
travdogg said:
I think there is a good chance we look back a year from now and say that Fields was the best QB in FA this offseason.
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Has he improved as a passer? I must have missed it.
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You have, he's improved every season. Top-20 in passer rating last year, ahead of guys like Geno Smith, Aaron Rodgers, CJ Stroud, Dak Prescott and Trevor Lawrence. He's a decent starting QB. Will he ever live up to what the Bears spent draft pick wise on him? Probably not. But I think he's in the 20-25 range in the NFL at QB.
 
I think it is time just to let him play his game. I have seen him do some extraordinary things. I have never been a massive fan of his delivery. He can take a bit longer and needs protection in and around the pocket if he is going to flourish consistently with his arm. He really can throw the deep ball if given time. That said, he can make some questionable decisions with the ball. He sometimes will challenge himself when he should check down. The outside-of-the-pocket game is good but cuts the field in half a lot of the time. However, this is who he is; honestly, he may be the most gifted player with his legs in the league and is undoubtedly at the quarterback position (IMO). He is also a bit daring running the ball, which can be good or bad. He needs to stay healthy.

The talent is there. The opportunity is now there. The Jets being the Jets scares me. He needs the right coaching and the right scheme. This reminds me of Cam Newton, in a way. The Panthers needed just to let Cam be Cam and not try to mold him to be the next Dan Marino. Have the offense fit Fields, not have Fields fit the offense.

Justin Fields has maybe the best deep pass I have ever seen in a college football game when he hit Chris Olave in the playoff game against Clemson. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8HLLIFFG0Y Just a dime. He played out of his head that game.
 
Ray_T said:
travdogg said:
I think there is a good chance we look back a year from now and say that Fields was the best QB in FA this offseason.
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maybe. maybe not.

there is no question, he was a better QB in Pittsburgh than we have seen prior to that time. but he still needs to grow his game. good news is.... hes young enough that it can still legitimately happen. but the team needs to take the steps to make sure he is successful. It looks like the head coach comes from a defensive background, so its really all about the OC. Engstrand seems to have done well in Detroit. but I dont know enough about the guy to say hes gonna be good. taking a developed product (goff) and having success there is different than developing a player. I honestly dont know if he has that skillset. I hope he does.

only time will tell.
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This is a very good assessment. He improved and looked more poised and confident in PIT. But he still needs to work on his game and it may take some time. Hopefully this new system is a good fit for him and they surround him with good offensive coaching.

I think there is still lots of potential for Fields but he has lots to work on and improve. This is a slow process in a game where teams want/need instant success. Doesn't always bode well for QBs.
 
JohnnyU said:
travdogg said:
I think there is a good chance we look back a year from now and say that Fields was the best QB in FA this offseason.
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Has he improved as a passer? I must have missed it.
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To be fair he did improve his completion % by 5.5% and his int rate dropped by 2.5% while only dropping his y/a by 0.1 yards.

It's not a lot to go on but it is a very solid improvement over his time in Chicago.

I am skeptical of him, at best, and am thrilled my Raiders traded for Geno instead of acquiring Fields (which probably says more about how bad the Raiders have been at QB than anything else).

But, I do recognize if Fields can unlock his potential he will be a steal for the Jets.
 
SHH said:
He could be pretty good in fantasy. Once his team gets down 1-2 scores, the other defense allows him to get a bunch of meaningless rushing yards which are great for fantasy!
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Just took him at 3.7 of a rookie draft where he had been released and I only had Herbert at QB. Right now I got Fields as my presumed QB1.

As long as he's a willing runner and not trying to prove his worth as a pocket passer he's basically can't miss for fantasy and what I'd point out is in his last 4 games against Aaron Glenn led defenses he ran for 447 yards and I've always thought that impacted Glenn's desire to bring him to the Jets. Which is a scenario where they should encourage him to keep using his legs.
 
menobrown said:
SHH said:
He could be pretty good in fantasy. Once his team gets down 1-2 scores, the other defense allows him to get a bunch of meaningless rushing yards which are great for fantasy!
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Just took him at 3.7 of a rookie draft where he had been released and I only had Herbert at QB. Right now I got Fields as my presumed QB1.

As long as he's a willing runner and not trying to prove his worth as a pocket passer he's basically can't miss for fantasy and what I'd point out is in his last 4 games against Aaron Glenn led defenses he ran for 447 yards and I've always thought that impacted Glenn's desire to bring him to the Jets. Which is a scenario where they should encourage him to keep using his legs.
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He will have a set of receiving weapons that is light years ahead of what he has had thus far. I don't even necessarily mean that as an indictment of previous squads either. Wilson/Taylor/Hall is an insane problem for defenses to deal with. Fields will likely have by far the best offensive line he has seen before too. At least comped to the Bears anyway. Steelers were pretty good there as I recall but Fields also did well in those games so... personally I think this is setup for a league winning QB situation in fantasy but I'm obviously a homer and rooting for it.
 
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I think they're pretty incredibly weak at WR2 and beyond. Serviceable though. Corley might actually fit nicely into perhaps his more natural role of a WR screen and gadget kind of guy. Not good for fantasy but good for the Jets if that kind of thing is a 4th option. Good for Fields.
 
barackdhouse said:
I think they're pretty incredibly weak at WR2
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Agree,one of the reasons I liked Taylor so much to go along with the season Kmet had with Fields.

We may disagree in that I don't view his situation as markedly better then what he had with the Steelers, more similar really , maybe just a hair better. But he won't have getting benched looking over his shoulder and like I was saying I think he's go to use his legs a lot, more then with Pittsburgh, because that's what I think drew Glenn to him.

And even with Pittsburgh and not using his legs as much as fantasy people would like, just 38.5 rushing yards a game, he was QB10 in PPG when he got benched. That's kind of his floor IMO. He's a steal in redraft leagues.
 
IHEARTFF said:
Snagged him at 4.3. Already have Burrow/Nix, but that was too good of a value to pass on.
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Just took him second time at 4.6.

I was honestly about to pass and decided to look at how many of the teams I viewed as comp needed a QB that picked between my next pick and I thought he was an upgrade or 1(A)(B) to a few teams. Then it dawned on me, which it should have sooner, that I have Hall/Braelon, Garrett Wilson and Mason Taylor and it made to much sense for me.
 
menobrown said:
IHEARTFF said:
Snagged him at 4.3. Already have Burrow/Nix, but that was too good of a value to pass on.
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Just took him second time at 4.6.

I was honestly about to pass and decided to look at how many of the teams I viewed as comp needed a QB that picked between my next pick and I thought he was an upgrade or 1(A)(B) to a few teams. Then it dawned on me, which it should have sooner, that I have Hall/Braelon, Garrett Wilson and Mason Taylor and it made to much sense for me.
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4.6 in rookie drafts?

He is rostered in all my leagues.
 
MTskibum said:
menobrown said:
IHEARTFF said:
Snagged him at 4.3. Already have Burrow/Nix, but that was too good of a value to pass on.
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Just took him second time at 4.6.

I was honestly about to pass and decided to look at how many of the teams I viewed as comp needed a QB that picked between my next pick and I thought he was an upgrade or 1(A)(B) to a few teams. Then it dawned on me, which it should have sooner, that I have Hall/Braelon, Garrett Wilson and Mason Taylor and it made to much sense for me.
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4.6 in rookie drafts?

He is rostered in all my leagues.
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Yes rookie drafts, he was cut or not rostered end of season in a lot of leagues.
 
Stealthycat said:
I think he's a top 10 QB this year because of his running ability
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I agree and hope he is as I have him in dynasty. But I do have some concerns. PIT needs a QB bad and they decided to let him go after 1 year. Yeah I know the back and forth but if PIT really wanted Fields they would have let him play the year (not bring in Wilson) and followed it up with a 2nd-year offer that was solid.

Fields is on his third team now and hes only 26. I do think he had lots to learn as he came into the NFL and he was not given the coaching and help he needed in CHI. Even Caleb didn't get what he needed to start his career there.

I really thought Tomlin and crew would work with Fields and let him grow and develop in PIT and I really wonder what happened there. Fields had the team at 4-2 and then got benched - after a win....

I have no doubt, for fantasy purposes, Fields can be an easy top 10 QB each game he plays. My worry is he doesn't last the season if the team isn't winning. I sure hope he does because that means I'm laughing all the way to the bank. If Fields somehow gets a 2nd year in NY that would mean he's likely going to be a starter somewhere else even if it doesn't work out in NY.

I do believe there is a lot of upside with Fields and I hope he's putting in the work and time needed so he can be successful this year. But as we have seen before nothing is guaranteed in the NFL and things change quickly.

My question, as I mentioned earlier in this thread, if he starts off hot do I trade him for max value or ride it until its over.... Man that is tough because if it goes well and keeps going well that could mean a top 10QB year in and year out. Cashing out locks in the value and it would be hard to pass that up.
 
Big Nate said:
Stealthycat said:
I think he's a top 10 QB this year because of his running ability
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I agree and hope he is as I have him in dynasty. But I do have some concerns. PIT needs a QB bad and they decided to let him go after 1 year. Yeah I know the back and forth but if PIT really wanted Fields they would have let him play the year (not bring in Wilson) and followed it up with a 2nd-year offer that was solid.

Fields is on his third team now and hes only 26. I do think he had lots to learn as he came into the NFL and he was not given the coaching and help he needed in CHI. Even Caleb didn't get what he needed to start his career there.

I really thought Tomlin and crew would work with Fields and let him grow and develop in PIT and I really wonder what happened there. Fields had the team at 4-2 and then got benched - after a win....
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Steelers first signed Wilson, then traded for Fields. Wilson was always going to be the starter, then he got hurt. Fields came in a played well but gave the job back to the 13 year vet when he was healthy. Although he never said so, I'm sure Fields didn't like how that played out. He signed with the Jets even though the Steelers offered similar money, but Jets offered more guaranteed money.
 
ericttspikes said:
Big Nate said:
Stealthycat said:
I think he's a top 10 QB this year because of his running ability
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I agree and hope he is as I have him in dynasty. But I do have some concerns. PIT needs a QB bad and they decided to let him go after 1 year. Yeah I know the back and forth but if PIT really wanted Fields they would have let him play the year (not bring in Wilson) and followed it up with a 2nd-year offer that was solid.

Fields is on his third team now and hes only 26. I do think he had lots to learn as he came into the NFL and he was not given the coaching and help he needed in CHI. Even Caleb didn't get what he needed to start his career there.

I really thought Tomlin and crew would work with Fields and let him grow and develop in PIT and I really wonder what happened there. Fields had the team at 4-2 and then got benched - after a win....
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Steelers first signed Wilson, then traded for Fields. Wilson was always going to be the starter, then he got hurt. Fields came in a played well but gave the job back to the 13 year vet when he was healthy. Although he never said so, I'm sure Fields didn't like how that played out. He signed with the Jets even though the Steelers offered similar money, but Jets offered more guaranteed money.
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This does not jive with anything I've heard or read. Which was they lowballed him and Wilson, in part because they always wanted Rodgers.
 
menobrown said:
ericttspikes said:
Big Nate said:
Stealthycat said:
I think he's a top 10 QB this year because of his running ability
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I agree and hope he is as I have him in dynasty. But I do have some concerns. PIT needs a QB bad and they decided to let him go after 1 year. Yeah I know the back and forth but if PIT really wanted Fields they would have let him play the year (not bring in Wilson) and followed it up with a 2nd-year offer that was solid.

Fields is on his third team now and hes only 26. I do think he had lots to learn as he came into the NFL and he was not given the coaching and help he needed in CHI. Even Caleb didn't get what he needed to start his career there.

I really thought Tomlin and crew would work with Fields and let him grow and develop in PIT and I really wonder what happened there. Fields had the team at 4-2 and then got benched - after a win....
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Steelers first signed Wilson, then traded for Fields. Wilson was always going to be the starter, then he got hurt. Fields came in a played well but gave the job back to the 13 year vet when he was healthy. Although he never said so, I'm sure Fields didn't like how that played out. He signed with the Jets even though the Steelers offered similar money, but Jets offered more guaranteed money.
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This does not jive with anything I've heard or read. Which was they lowballed him and Wilson, in part because they always wanted Rodgers.
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"So what did the Steelers offer? According to Steelers Now sources, the team offered Fields a two-year deal worth $30 million. While the specific distribution of salaries could not be ascertained as of this writing, Aditi Kinkhabwala of CBS Sports reported on Monday that the Steelers did not offer any guarantees beyond the first year to Fields."

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Sources: Steelers, Justin Fields Were Far Apart in Guaranteed Money

The contract details for the deal between Justin Fields and the New York Jets have been revealed, and the Pittsburgh
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ericttspikes said:
menobrown said:
ericttspikes said:
Big Nate said:
Stealthycat said:
I think he's a top 10 QB this year because of his running ability
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I agree and hope he is as I have him in dynasty. But I do have some concerns. PIT needs a QB bad and they decided to let him go after 1 year. Yeah I know the back and forth but if PIT really wanted Fields they would have let him play the year (not bring in Wilson) and followed it up with a 2nd-year offer that was solid.

Fields is on his third team now and hes only 26. I do think he had lots to learn as he came into the NFL and he was not given the coaching and help he needed in CHI. Even Caleb didn't get what he needed to start his career there.

I really thought Tomlin and crew would work with Fields and let him grow and develop in PIT and I really wonder what happened there. Fields had the team at 4-2 and then got benched - after a win....
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Steelers first signed Wilson, then traded for Fields. Wilson was always going to be the starter, then he got hurt. Fields came in a played well but gave the job back to the 13 year vet when he was healthy. Although he never said so, I'm sure Fields didn't like how that played out. He signed with the Jets even though the Steelers offered similar money, but Jets offered more guaranteed money.
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This does not jive with anything I've heard or read. Which was they lowballed him and Wilson, in part because they always wanted Rodgers.
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"So what did the Steelers offer? According to Steelers Now sources, the team offered Fields a two-year deal worth $30 million. While the specific distribution of salaries could not be ascertained as of this writing, Aditi Kinkhabwala of CBS Sports reported on Monday that the Steelers did not offer any guarantees beyond the first year to Fields."

sports.yahoo.com

Sources: Steelers, Justin Fields Were Far Apart in Guaranteed Money

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Thanks for the reply, hard to know on structure how much money was in year one but also not sure how $30M is similar to $40m?
 
menobrown said:
ericttspikes said:
menobrown said:
ericttspikes said:
Big Nate said:
Stealthycat said:
I think he's a top 10 QB this year because of his running ability
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I agree and hope he is as I have him in dynasty. But I do have some concerns. PIT needs a QB bad and they decided to let him go after 1 year. Yeah I know the back and forth but if PIT really wanted Fields they would have let him play the year (not bring in Wilson) and followed it up with a 2nd-year offer that was solid.

Fields is on his third team now and hes only 26. I do think he had lots to learn as he came into the NFL and he was not given the coaching and help he needed in CHI. Even Caleb didn't get what he needed to start his career there.

I really thought Tomlin and crew would work with Fields and let him grow and develop in PIT and I really wonder what happened there. Fields had the team at 4-2 and then got benched - after a win....
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Steelers first signed Wilson, then traded for Fields. Wilson was always going to be the starter, then he got hurt. Fields came in a played well but gave the job back to the 13 year vet when he was healthy. Although he never said so, I'm sure Fields didn't like how that played out. He signed with the Jets even though the Steelers offered similar money, but Jets offered more guaranteed money.
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This does not jive with anything I've heard or read. Which was they lowballed him and Wilson, in part because they always wanted Rodgers.
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"So what did the Steelers offer? According to Steelers Now sources, the team offered Fields a two-year deal worth $30 million. While the specific distribution of salaries could not be ascertained as of this writing, Aditi Kinkhabwala of CBS Sports reported on Monday that the Steelers did not offer any guarantees beyond the first year to Fields."

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Sources: Steelers, Justin Fields Were Far Apart in Guaranteed Money

The contract details for the deal between Justin Fields and the New York Jets have been revealed, and the Pittsburgh
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Thanks for the reply, hard to know on structure how much money was in year one but also not sure how $30M is similar to $40m?
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How about "competitive"? $5 mil a year seems "competitive", but yeah Jets offerered more top line $ and guaranteed $ and he went there.
 
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