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QB Sam Howell, SEA (1 Viewer)
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Tau837
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NFL Comp: Chase Daniel. Seems about right. Yet some team is going to waste a first round pick on him.
Been doing some reading n watching on this kid. He's a stud athlete that plays quarterback. I'm not sure he's a quarterback.
UNC added six top ten QBs in a short time as if it was basketball and that's just really odd. One became a corner (briefly) then LB and is a starter for the Vikings. R.A.T. switched to WR and went to the pros way too early and botched his career. Some wow moments with Titans but didn't stick there or with the Raiders. He's doing well in "minor leagues" wishing for another chance now.
Howell was the best of the group and he makes some wow throws and seems to have the right head on his shoulders and...good choice by the coach.
My problem is I don't see the development. The flashes are to become ordinary and regular throws are to be no big deal and ...I don't see that much development. (This is not Lamar at all) He still looks like an athlete playing QB and not just simply relaxing and playing QB.
This guy should be a third or fourth round pick. A QB coach spends a ton of time with him breaking him down and rebuilding everything and then 2-3 years down the line he's a starter.
It's just a bad QB year and the market says the highest rated players go at this spot so NFL teams aren't adjusting.
Iowa State guy and Ridder- there's two that have been running offenses for years- non-project types.
GMs are overthinking everything
Man, I'm on the complete opposite side of this thread. I think Howell is the best QB in this draft and should be a 1st round pick.
Howell has both the strongest and most accurate arm in this class, and that's not totally a knock on this class. Howell's arm is very good by NFL standards, and his accuracy is solid by NFL standards. Howell also has good mobility, and while he's not rushing for 1,000 yards in the NFL, he's probably on that DeShaun Watson/Russell Wilson level of mobility.
Howell has 2 weaknesses in my opinion, and one of those might be less on him and more on UNC. He's too quick to take off and run, and he's a little greedy at times, turning down open checkdowns to take deep shots. I think that latter thing might have been encouraged by UNC's coaching staff.
I will agree Howell took a step back this year, but I think that's to be expected when your offense loses Javonte Williams, Michael Carter, and Dyami Brown to the NFL. Howell also played well against his best competition including an excellent game in the loss to Notre Dame.
I'm not saying Howell is some stud, but Chase Daniel comparisons are silly. Daniel never had close to the arm or mobility of Howell. He's more mobile Jameis Winston in my opinion. Time will tell if he has a better work ethic than Jameis, but I'd expect him to be a better pro than Winston has been.
Howell has both the strongest and most accurate arm in this class, and that's not totally a knock on this class. Howell's arm is very good by NFL standards, and his accuracy is solid by NFL standards. Howell also has good mobility, and while he's not rushing for 1,000 yards in the NFL, he's probably on that DeShaun Watson/Russell Wilson level of mobility.
Howell has 2 weaknesses in my opinion, and one of those might be less on him and more on UNC. He's too quick to take off and run, and he's a little greedy at times, turning down open checkdowns to take deep shots. I think that latter thing might have been encouraged by UNC's coaching staff.
I will agree Howell took a step back this year, but I think that's to be expected when your offense loses Javonte Williams, Michael Carter, and Dyami Brown to the NFL. Howell also played well against his best competition including an excellent game in the loss to Notre Dame.
I'm not saying Howell is some stud, but Chase Daniel comparisons are silly. Daniel never had close to the arm or mobility of Howell. He's more mobile Jameis Winston in my opinion. Time will tell if he has a better work ethic than Jameis, but I'd expect him to be a better pro than Winston has been.
Tau837
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I stand by this take. This is not the droid you are looking for if you are looking for a starting NFL QB. I am ready to take heat if it turns out I am wrong about Howell.
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Bracie Smathers
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Which 2022 NFL Draft prospects could sneak into the first round?
QB SAM HOWELL, NORTH CAROLINA
2021 grade: 91.1 (15th out of 293 QBs)
... Howell is gaining some steam late in the process.
Multiple sources called Howell a potential sleeper to go in the first round.
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Doug Kyed's Pre-Draft Mailbag:
@LUCASOLIVS_: WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT SAM HOWELL ON THE SAINTS? COULD BE A GOOD FIT IF THEY DRAFT A WR ON THE NO. 15? POSSIBLY OLAVE OR JAMESON WILLIAMS…
There’s some buzz around Sam Howell and the Saints, so I think you’re on to something.
Howell was also identified by league sources as a player who could wind up being a surprise first-round pick, as teams like his athleticism and deep ball. Pair that deep ball with Alabama wide receiver Jameson Williams, and you’ve got yourself a match made in heaven.
I talked to a scout about Williams a couple of weeks ago, and one of Williams’ best traits is his ability to accelerate through the ball. That’s all about the angles he takes to deep passes. He’s able to track the ball, catch it and pick up yards after the reception without losing speed, which is what led to so many of his big plays.
The Saints might need to do some maneuvering around the draft board to pick both of those players up at decent value, however. Maybe they could pair the 16th overall pick and their second-rounder to move up for Williams then move down from 19th overall to get Howell?
However, they also need an offensive tackle. I actually expect them to trade up with their two first-round picks to get a tackle.
Nonetheless, Williams and Howell would be a really fun pairing in New Orleans.
QB SAM HOWELL, NORTH CAROLINA
2021 grade: 91.1 (15th out of 293 QBs)
... Howell is gaining some steam late in the process.
Multiple sources called Howell a potential sleeper to go in the first round.
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Doug Kyed's Pre-Draft Mailbag:
@LUCASOLIVS_: WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT SAM HOWELL ON THE SAINTS? COULD BE A GOOD FIT IF THEY DRAFT A WR ON THE NO. 15? POSSIBLY OLAVE OR JAMESON WILLIAMS…
There’s some buzz around Sam Howell and the Saints, so I think you’re on to something.
Howell was also identified by league sources as a player who could wind up being a surprise first-round pick, as teams like his athleticism and deep ball. Pair that deep ball with Alabama wide receiver Jameson Williams, and you’ve got yourself a match made in heaven.
I talked to a scout about Williams a couple of weeks ago, and one of Williams’ best traits is his ability to accelerate through the ball. That’s all about the angles he takes to deep passes. He’s able to track the ball, catch it and pick up yards after the reception without losing speed, which is what led to so many of his big plays.
The Saints might need to do some maneuvering around the draft board to pick both of those players up at decent value, however. Maybe they could pair the 16th overall pick and their second-rounder to move up for Williams then move down from 19th overall to get Howell?
However, they also need an offensive tackle. I actually expect them to trade up with their two first-round picks to get a tackle.
Nonetheless, Williams and Howell would be a really fun pairing in New Orleans.
Drake Hater
Footballguy
If the Panthers don't trade out of that 6th pick it's possible they'll take Howell.
Deamon
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Drake Hater
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Bracie Smathers
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Donnybrook
Footballguy
I would be a pretty decent move IMO, if the Giants moved from 36 to take Howell in the late first. I don't know if Giants want to give teams 18 hours to negotiate a trade to move in front of them, if they stay at 36. And the 5th year option would arguably pay for the cost. They could even argue that it gives Daniel Jones this season to prove himself while they tutor Howell in his rookie season.
pantherclub
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Dacomish
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Picked this cat up with the last pick in my rookie draft (pick 49), I can stash him on a taxi squad for years, this thread was incredibly helpful. If he doesn't work out he is an easy dump in the future but I do think he will sit a few years and could be coached up/with better weapons than last year could be a crazy steal at that draft position.
massraider
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Commanders rookie QB Sam Howell says he only eats chicken.
He's never tried a burger or a steak and won't eat seafood. He orders chicken tenders at steakhouses and brings his own tenders to team dinners.
H/T @MarkPArmstrong | @Commanders https://t.co/xsFxNH2ctH
I had a brother who only ate frozen buffalo chicken tenders for like a year. He was 8 years old.
He's never tried a burger or a steak and won't eat seafood. He orders chicken tenders at steakhouses and brings his own tenders to team dinners.
H/T @MarkPArmstrong | @Commanders https://t.co/xsFxNH2ctH
I had a brother who only ate frozen buffalo chicken tenders for like a year. He was 8 years old.
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
I'm guessing he's not on the TB12 diet. And he could shave off that mustache too. I know it's beard. But all you see behind the helmet is the stache. Looks pornish
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cloppbeast
Footballguy
How can you respect a man who orders chicken strips at a steakhouse?
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Never tried beef or seafood…this world is full of interesting humans.
habsfan
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Drake Hater
Footballguy
Someone should take him on a visit to a chicken farm, or make him watch Super Size Me 2.
