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QB Trey Lance, LAC (2 Viewers)
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I didn't see him putting it altogether. I see dunderhead stuff or flashes.
I'm just eh on the ordinary stuff too.
Everyone loves this kid and I watched so many times with anticipation and aside from a woah nice throw thought, I really wasn't impressed.
I think this is why Jimmy G stayed and started and is not gone too.
I also feel like they made an offense or are calling plays for him that just aren't good. Well intentioned and all, but on gamepass idk how many times the WRs are running a quick route and he's busy rolling and not even at a throw point yet.
Also he's calling something at the LOS and when he's sacked or the play breaks down almost instantly, I wonder about his football intellect or leadership.
He looked so green to me. I'd trade him if I were them due to this supposed bad QB draft. Only the worst losing teams can be patient and it seems like he needs a lot of time to develop. I think they wanted Burrow or Herbert plug n play and ....now what?
I know this will be unpopular so gimme a sec- That's a good team now and windows are small in the NFL. They'll be paying Deebo soon and unable to afford guys and I just don't see that patience will pay off here. Could there be a new team five years from now and he's awesome leading them to a Supe- sure but it's pretty rough to build and stay strong near the top in the NFL.
I'm just eh on the ordinary stuff too.
Everyone loves this kid and I watched so many times with anticipation and aside from a woah nice throw thought, I really wasn't impressed.
I think this is why Jimmy G stayed and started and is not gone too.
I also feel like they made an offense or are calling plays for him that just aren't good. Well intentioned and all, but on gamepass idk how many times the WRs are running a quick route and he's busy rolling and not even at a throw point yet.
Also he's calling something at the LOS and when he's sacked or the play breaks down almost instantly, I wonder about his football intellect or leadership.
He looked so green to me. I'd trade him if I were them due to this supposed bad QB draft. Only the worst losing teams can be patient and it seems like he needs a lot of time to develop. I think they wanted Burrow or Herbert plug n play and ....now what?
I know this will be unpopular so gimme a sec- That's a good team now and windows are small in the NFL. They'll be paying Deebo soon and unable to afford guys and I just don't see that patience will pay off here. Could there be a new team five years from now and he's awesome leading them to a Supe- sure but it's pretty rough to build and stay strong near the top in the NFL.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Ummm, I dint get this way of thinking. No team would ever trade away a player they paid all those picks to move up and draft #3 overall before seeing what they have or before ever giving him a chance.
When they drafted him, they knew he was raw and without a lot of college experience, they certainly didn't expect him to start quickly like Burrow or Herbert.
"it seems like he needs a lot of time to develop"
Based on what? The super small sample size from last season? Clickbait articles? Inside info from a guy who knows a guy in the organization?
None of us know how he has progressed this offseason. Making statements claiming otherwise is just speculation or wishful thinking IMO.
I’m with you and if my league mates were smarter they’d be making me some offers seeing as how I’m in a complete rebuild but honestly I’m perfectly fine having him as one of my building blocks.
greenmountaingoat
Footballguy
Got him plus Aiyuk for Russ. I’m pretty sure the other owner is a disgruntled 9ers fan. Fingers crossed, feeling like this one could go either way.
i was pretty descriptive for you to be asking based on what.
You're calling him raw (agreeing) then defensively saying/asking he needs time to develop based on what? That's hypocritical.
I'd trade a player or two if I'm sticking with him then.
Like I said, they're built for now and windows are too small in the NFL. Get guys that'll peak at the same time as him then.
The other side is when he's developed, their better players are looking for money and they can't afford to keep em all and this too contributes to the small window.
The 49ers absolutely did expect him to play last year, start. There are plenty of quotes and shopping Jimmy G that prove this.
Similarly to hold off on trading Jimmy G between Lance's first and second year is telling
They have.
He's clearly the underdog and gone from this prized pupil Brady understudy to someone no fans seems to care for. When you watch the games, the announcers discussing what the other teams coaches said and post game interviews...dude is fine.
It's a star position and he's not a star just like much of the NFL. He's no Aaron or Mahomes etc but he is certainly not awful. There's only so many gems and if ya don't have one, you at least need a guy like Ol Dilfer, or ol Simms that could get you there with a special supporting cast.
Fine is not good enough for fans. It needs to be, there just aren't enough stars for all 32 to have one.
How do you feel when Tannehill faces Lamar or Mahomes or Burrow? You jump right to "I hope Henry has a good game" right? A fine QB is workable at least
wgoldsph
Footballguy
Hypothetically every team is a bunch of lost games away from starting their backup qb. Especially when they invested a ton of draft picks in him. What did you expect Shanahan to say "we were going to lose the season but I never considered Lance"? What kind of message does that send?
He did not have to say the exact game he was close to making a switch that's for sure.
greenmountaingoat
Footballguy
I seem to recall nearly universal consensus that he would need to sit for a year. So, breaking news nothing has changed?
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
At this point it seems hard to believe that anyone is trading for Jimmy G, so it will be interesting to see what happens there. Jimmy G isn't close to an elite QB but he has taken them to a Super Bowl and NFC Championship game last season.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I agree, and I’m kinda ticked that I play in a league with 4x Niners fans, including the Lance shareholder.
i have so many 2023 picks & would love to offer a late 1st, but that won’t get it done. There’d be no discount - the Lance owner is dug in like a deer tick on a hound dog.
zamboni
Footballguy
Agreed - seems like he's going to be a very expensive insurance policy. And with the team's Super Bowl aspirations, it might not be a bad thing for them.
I think the only chance Jimmy is traded is if a team suffers a major QB injury during training camp.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I think once he gets throwing again there will be a market for him. He’s certainly seen as less of a problem child than Mayfield - he’s kinda the polar opposite of Mayfield when it comes to being a team player, calm, measured, maturity, locker room presence, etc.
CAR seems like a good fit.
No one’s dealing for him until they see him throw though.
zamboni
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I just don't see any spots left for him (I'm believing Seattle will "tank" this season). Carolina may be desperate enough since jobs are on the line - but it would be incredibly dumb from a franchise perspective. They are far better off letting Darnold "earn" them a high pick so they can draft a QB this season than trading an asset to finish with 5-7 wins with Jimmy G.
I think @zamboni is correct in that it will take a contender losing a QB to garner interest and whatever team that is may prefer Baker Mayfield. Mayfield may be more petulant but he's a better QB overall.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I still think they'll cut him before the season starts if they can't find a trading partner. That's way too much money to be keeping on the books for an insurance policy, and if he gets injured at all his salary will become fully guaranteed for the year.
zamboni
Footballguy
Certainly a possibility that they'll cut Jimmy G, but although as mentioned the Super Bowl window may be more valuable to them. Can't imagine they'd feel comfortable with Nick Sudfeld leading the team should Lance falter or get hurt.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I see that argument, but using that money to extend some of their other key players is what may enable them to extend their Super Bowl window. They are all in on Lance - they'll have to sink or swim with him.
efactor
Footballguy
This will not age well
Lance has all the physical talents, works hard and is really smart. Not saying he is going to be Josh Allen this year, but I am almost certain he will be quite a bit better than Jimmy was last year.
49ers are pretty solid across the board. Some questions at guard due to Banks replacing Tomlinson. I think Mack comes back for another season at center.
They are nowhere near a bottom dweller this year
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
Not saying that was a great article, but excited to actually watch him play. Those snippets were great for fantasy football.
wgoldsph
Footballguy
This article is basically "Lance will be bad because of lack of data. Generally when we don't have data, that's bad." Correlation and causation are getting jumbled here.
Football Jones
Footballguy
I don't get why the 9ers think they have to trade Jimmy G. I believe it's in their best interest to keep him.
Lance could easily bust & they're a strong playoff contender. If they think moving Jimmy G would be better for Lance's confidence, ok, but so what. He's going to have much bigger things to worry about.
Keep the G-Man until they see if Lance has the goods. It's not rocket science.
Lance could easily bust & they're a strong playoff contender. If they think moving Jimmy G would be better for Lance's confidence, ok, but so what. He's going to have much bigger things to worry about.
Keep the G-Man until they see if Lance has the goods. It's not rocket science.
zamboni
Footballguy
As noted above, if Jimmy G were making $5-10 million, it would be a no-brainer. But $25 million is a different conversation.
Football Jones
Footballguy
I understand that, but it doesn't change the outlook should Lance bomb. I see no hurry to clear the books now. Worst case scenario is they get the draft pick compensation.
I'm not so sure the 9ers are trying too hard to move Jimmy G for the reason I stated. This very well might be more of a media thing. Not that they wouldn't take a killer deal, but I don't see it happening before the seasons starts. The 9ers are crazy if they release him.
Lynch is on record earlier this month admitting they were close to dealing him, but the surgery threw a wrench into the plan.
Football Jones
Footballguy
They have to work out big $ extensions with Deebo and Bosa, and they could use the $ otherwise being spent on an obscenely expensive backup QB who isn't part of their long-term plans to help with that.
Football Jones
Footballguy
My point is Lance might not be able to play dead. Without Jimmy G, their playoff hopes would be up in smoke.
If Lance sucks, they're going to have to find someone else. At the very least, Jimmy could be a bridge. He's a FA after this season so maybe they can sign him to a more team-friendly deal.
It's too early for the 9ers to cut bait on Garoppolo, IMO.
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