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If Wentz can get a 1st then I think Jimmy G can as well - maybe a 2d with incentives to be a 1st. Not sure how SF can refuse the cap space, draft picks to offset what they gave up for Lance and not wasting another year of Lance's rookie contract....but each playoff win makes it more interesting.
I actually disagree. The Niners know that Lance is the guy long term and by winning a playoff game(s), that only enhances Jimmy G.'s value. This could not have worked out better for SF. There are so many QB needy teams and we all know you cannot win without exceptional QB play.
So how does Jimmy G rectify the bolded? He is not an exceptional QB that will a team a Super Bowl without having a ton of other stuff in place.
Ack88 said:
They didn’t just take him in the first round, they gave up the equivalent of three first round picks and a third rounder to draft him. Whether he’s ready or not, he will be starting next season.
Absent a Super Bowl win, Lance will be the guy. or at least given every opportunity to be the guy. Whether or not he's successful is yet to be seen, but I think he will be.
If Jimmy G wins them the Super Bowl, I'd bet he still gets traded. Just increases what they'd get for him. 99.9% chance Lance is starting next year, with the .1 being if he somehow gets hurt between now and the new league year.
Yes, 11/19 for 131 yards and a pick(he should have had about 4 picks if you watched the game at least, and at least two for pick 6’s. Not to mention the numerous ducks and hospital balls) are going to be tough numbers to replicate. Was that him that blocked the punt, too?
I remember two drops that were actually on the receiver, one by Kittle and one by Aiyuk. The rest were off-target throws by Jimmy, many wildly off-target.
With this draft class appearing to lack stellar QB prospects anything is possible but that seems extremely unlikely.
Maybe, but the Jimmy conversation is a lot different today if Kittle hangs onto that likely 65 yard TD.
It’s also a lot different if SF doesn’t block that punt for a TD and GB doesn’t choke the game away. Twitter verse was trending last night with people wondering if they were going to put in Lance well into the 4th quarter lol.
Agree with all of this except draft capital. Maybe one of the few places where what you do is what gets you a roster spot. Trey Sermon hardly played this year b/c the 6th round guy is better and Aiyuk seemed in the doghouse for the first half of the year and he is a former 1st rounder. Gotta kind of admire this approach.
Totally agree with you as well, but there's draft capital and there's draft capital (with bold and italics for emphasis). The latter clearly applying to Lance.
Oh yeah for sure I feel ya there.
It’s rare. Russell Wilson was in one of the best situations quick. Steve young, but now we’re reaching back pretty far.
I'm in 100% agreement. One of my friends is a card investor and I've been imploring him to buy high end Lance cards. I'm not a market expert but I have to think there has been some kind of dip in his cards.
I would say it couldn't have worked out any better for Lance but I am not so sure about SF. From what I have seen Lance is not anywhere close to being ready to be an NFL QB. He can run but decision making, experience, and passing is a definite negative at this point.
I believe he is better than Lamar Jackson was after his rookie season. I believe you are being too critical of Lance in a lot of posts. I believe he could be better than Mahomes eventually. He was a great passer in college, not some running QB only. In 2019 he threw for 28 TDs and 0 interceptions.
Like most rookie QB’s. This off-season, with being able to take all the first-team reps with DeeBo and Kittle and company, and knowing he’s the captain of the ship now should be enormous in his development.
Against inferior, non NFL caliber players. I don't doubt he could eventually become an NFL caliber QB.....I just don't think he has the experience or is ready to do that anytime soon. It could happen but I think he has a long way to go.
Hell of lot ready IMO than a lot of rookie qbs thrown in to start. Or at least should be given the same consideration. A lot of rookie QBs chosen high didn't get the luxury to sit as much as he has already. Not all of them bust either. Peyton Manning led the league in interceptions his rookie year.
Both are fair points - he has to learn to prove it against teams that are much better than South Dakota State or James Madison. But also being able to absorb the game from the sidelines may do him a world of good than if he were thrown to the wolves. I would expect that team brass will have Lance work some type of QB camp/guru in the offseason to help him get ready.
Of course there are always exceptions, just like the list is longer among those from small schools (or big schools, for that matter) that failed. I do think the inexperience in college is a bigger deal than who he played against his one full year in college. That is where his year of holding the clipboard may come more so in handy.
I have never said that this year was bad for him and that it wouldn't help him get better. On the contrary I think he needs another year (at least) of seasoning before he is ready. I think his inexperience and lack of games (and those games being against inferior opponents) is a big deal and that he isn't ready.
