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QB Trey Lance, LAC (5 Viewers)
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Wut
Purdy is recovering from a torn UCL
Dude won 8 straight games. Not sure what youāre taking about or why the vitriol for Purdy.
Iām not sure dude didnāt play over his skis last year either, but I saw a young passer who was remarkably good at extending plays & finding open receivers.
Weebs210
Footballguy
I didn't have vitriol for Purdy until I started reading this guys posts tbh.
Edit: I also was never impressed with any of this throws. Yac monsters carried him. I'm happy for him since he's has had some success as a late round pick but I think defenses make him look bad this year. We will see though.
Wingnut
Footballguy
I have no idea who you are, but have fun laughing at whatever you feel like laughing at.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Lance is done in SF.
Mark it down.
Wingnut
Footballguy
This clown is a troll/alias, don't feed him or he'll never leave.
Weebs210
Footballguy
Maybe you should put the phone down and not spam a thread
Wingnut
Footballguy
Maybe you should bring something to the discussion other that "I don't like him cuz Wingnut thinks he will be the starter"
Or move along. Up to you
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I donāt have to - Iāve been saying it for over a year. lolLance is done in SF.
Mark it down.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Actually local media reports they best offer the 49ers had for him was a 4th. They declined.
But it did include a side of fries.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Fact: Shanahan doesn't give a rats butt about draft position. Yes, its not a good look if Lance is a bust, but the fact that they've hit on Purdy, Kittle, Hufanga, Warner, Greenlaw, etc, as well as the comp picks they've been given, helps soften the blow.
I wish Lance well in his future endeavors, but Purdy is the perfect QB for this team, this offense, this coach, and I believe he can and will lead the 49ers to Lombardi #6 as long as they don't lose any key pieces to injury.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Luck? The same luck that has kept them from winning a ring since the 1994 season?
Good thing we have that luck. </sarcasm>
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
No, in fact Heās been abjectly terrible in practice. Iām sure they want to deal him for more, but if they start him in the preseason no one is going to offer anything.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
It was damn lucky. Iāll take it.
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
Purdy: 51% of pass yards were YAC; 6.2 YAC per completion
Mahomes: 54% of pass yards were YAC; 6.6 YAC per completion
Todem
Footballguy
I am not ready to write off Trey Lance as an NFL prospect because he simply has not played.....literally at all. And that is not his fault. He broke his ankle in the second game of the season.
But I have written him off ever being anything as long as he is in SF.
Purdy took and earned the job. Itās as simple as that. This is Purdyās team. If Jimmy G never got hurt.....then we are not even talking about Purdy right now.....crazy how things like this work out.
The best thing for Lance would to be traded and given a fresh start somewhere else.
But I have written him off ever being anything as long as he is in SF.
Purdy took and earned the job. Itās as simple as that. This is Purdyās team. If Jimmy G never got hurt.....then we are not even talking about Purdy right now.....crazy how things like this work out.
The best thing for Lance would to be traded and given a fresh start somewhere else.
Tau837
Footballguy
I have no dog in this fight but your first post quoted here was the most tool-ish post I have read in this forum in a long time, and it was unprovoked. Please knock it off.
If you don't like reading Wingnut's posts, then don't. No one is forcing you.
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To some extent, but getting this level of production out of Purdy also demonstrates why Shanahan is one of the most valuable assets in the NFL.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Purdy: 51% of pass yards were YAC; 6.2 YAC per completion
Mahomes: 54% of pass yards were YAC; 6.6 YAC per completion
Yeah I saw some stats the other day on a YT podcast and basically whoever is the SF QB, every year they are top 5ish in YAC since Kyle took over. Elite weapons, great scheme. I think Purdy is great at processing very quickly and he's a good QB for the system. They don't need hero ball.
Early reports have been Lance has been the least impressive by a good margin. He's also not getting very many reps as the 3rd stringer. Hard to envision a path to development as things stand now.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Especially in this offense thatās set up for catch and run.
Todem
Footballguy
I will never forget his absolute choke job in quite possibly calling the absolute worst half of football when the Falcons blew the Super Bowl.
I still canāt believe just how bad it was.
Anywayā¦..we will see if he is able to coach this team to the promised land in SF.
But manā¦..that was ****ing brutal bad and the prime example of how not to shorten a game with a 24 point lead at the half (27-3 if memory serves me correct).
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
28-3 is seared into a few memories, for differing reasons
Notwithstanding that choke job and even if he never wins a Super Bowl, heās still one of the most valuable offensive minds in the league.
Todem
Footballguy
I donāt disagree
-OZ-
Footballguy
Eventually heāll be a free agent. Just gets to throw a few years of his career away. Or grow, depending on your perspective.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Problem is with someone so raw is that they need good coaching and reps. It was a dream scenario for Lance being paired with Shanahanā¦that then turned into the worst case scenario. He gets hurt and Purdy runs the offense efficiently like Kyle likes it run. Now what? Trey gets less reps and support which essentially leaves him at day one based on his previous experience. Huge uphill battle for Trey, which will take hard work and an injury to have a turnaround story in SF. Like you said, free agency is probably his next shot barring health of those in front of him. I think Sam ends up being number two so the road is long right now.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Iād say itās fairly safe to say that his growth has been severely limited by these early career setbacks.
Both physically and psychologically. Dude was already a bit of a project coming into the league when Shanny drafted him 3rd overall.
Unlike some, Iām not at all optimistic for Lanceās long-term prospects. For one, heās reportedly not as fast / agile as they 49ers expected when they drafted him. That came out this last offseason (I forget from where - might have been Maioco. It was a fairly reliable source IIRC).
For another, this is his 3rd camp and heās missing the bunnies. By a lot. And weāre not taking pads/contact - weāre talking shorts & light practice jerseys with no pressure. Year 3 he canāt be missing those.
If he gets beaten out by Darnold & Purdy? Oof.
Then thereās the potential fit for any team willing to take a chance on him as a project. Like, it has to be the right coach, with the right OC, who wants to use him like SF allegedly wanted to use him. Itās not like he was a great pocket passer in college.
Given the timeline & results, color me skeptical that Lance ever has a meaningful role as an NFL starting QB on another team. Based on history, the odds seem to be against it.
farfromforgotten
Footballguy
It was hard not to be overhyped given his draft capital and the situation he was presented with in Shanahanās system surrounded by a talented roster.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Iām a little optimistic about Love, because he was allowed (forced) to sit & learn.
But youāre right that he needs to prove it on the field.
He's just look beyond awful when he plays mostly though
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Looked great for 1 drive against a very good Eagles team last year.
woohoo?
Dez
Footballguy
Over Ja'Marr Chase ? yikes.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Wingnut
Footballguy
49ers QBs on Day 4, best day so far for the offense:
Sam Darnold: 8-10, 3 RZ TD
Trey Lance: 5-8, 1 RZ TD
Brandon Allen: 3-5, 1 RZ TD
Darnold was in command. Stepped to throw a TD strike to 11, then rolled out for another TD to 11 on the run.
Lance was better today than Friday. Good downfield PA delivery to Kittle to open, but he missed another short throw in the red zone (sailed to Deebo Samuel) that should've been an easy TD.
Sam Darnold: 8-10, 3 RZ TD
Trey Lance: 5-8, 1 RZ TD
Brandon Allen: 3-5, 1 RZ TD
Darnold was in command. Stepped to throw a TD strike to 11, then rolled out for another TD to 11 on the run.
Lance was better today than Friday. Good downfield PA delivery to Kittle to open, but he missed another short throw in the red zone (sailed to Deebo Samuel) that should've been an easy TD.
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Wingnut
Footballguy
Number of career dropbacks in NFL + NCAA
Darnold: 2,950
Purdy: 1,940
Allen: 1,076
Lance: 495
Darnold: 2,950
Purdy: 1,940
Allen: 1,076
Lance: 495
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Wingnut
Footballguy
Many more positives for Trey Lance out of today's 49ers practice, including:
- Great touch to Kittle 25 yards downfield
- Pre-injury acceleration on run in red zone
- Red-zone TD strike to Conley
Lance did miss another easy short throw which should've been pitch-and-catch to Deebo Samuel. And the short game carries outsized importance to any play caller ā throws like that have to be essentially automatic, and Lance must develop consistency on them.
Lance actually stayed after practice to work a number of short reps to the same flat as his miss to Deebo
Lansdowne
Footballguy
Dez quoted a post from over two years ago. Which is funny because I seem to remember Pitts being Bloomās #1 rookie that year (August I want to say, but I could see him going with Lance prior to that). As for what purpose that served for him to quote a post from 2021, your guess is as good as mine.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Ah, I was like Steve Buscemi in Big Lebowski there, just wandering into the middle of a conversation.
Disregard.
Chaka
Footballguy
Was he ever out of them?
I think the problem is he's simply much less NFL ready than they believed when they drafted him not that he lacked effort or is a problem child.
fuzzy_dunlop
Footballguy
9ers drafting Lance never made any sense. They are in the middle of their championship window and they bring in a project QB with very little experience playing the position.
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
I think the more I see of this, the more the niners wanted Mac Jones and were scared off after the media trashed them for moving up that far to take him.
Again, If something were to happen to Tua, I have a feeling Lance would end up in Miami. Just a hunch.
