QB Tua Tagovailoa, MIA (1 Viewer)

[SoBeDad]

@Jacob's Ladder. You bring up an interesting angle, $$$. Are you referring to Favre trying to get money from the NFL for his concussions, or researchers getting funding to study CTE?

This made me think about Tua and whether he would qualify for CTE $$ from the NFL in the future, given that he should be fully aware of the risks.

 

[nyg350]

Brett Favre just disclosed that he has Parkinson's at age 54. Head trauma is a likely risk factor for getting PD, although the causal association is not certain. I wonder if Brett's disclosure changes Tua's mind about retiring. BTW, Favre is testifying before congress about "his potential misuse of taxpayer money."

Brett Favre tells Congress he's been diagnosed with Parkinson's

The embattled former Green Bay quarterback made the surprising disclosure as he testified about possible misuse of taxpayer money.

www.nbcnews.com

Traumatic brain injury and risk of Parkinson's disease: a meta-analysis - PubMed

Our result suggests that TBI is a major risk factor for developing PD later in life. At this time, there is a lack of populous prospective cohort studies with sufficient follow-up period to provide a well-documented association between the onset of PD and severity, frequency, and location of...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Or it could be do to his painkiller addiction, alcohol abuse, heredity or any other number of environmental factors that are known to increase your chances of getting the disease. But yeah, let's blame it on head trauma because that's where the $$$ are.

This right here is why it is so difficult to determine how much is to blame on the head trauma when these guys have issues later in life. The players that are older now were treated very differently than the players today. They were prescribed painkillers like candy to the point that a very large percentage of them were addicted. They were not held out as long when there was head trauma. It was common place to "get your bell rung" and go back out there.

Then there's the other factors at play as you said, alcohol abuse in his case, hereditary/family history, etc.

Is head trauma a part of it. . . Probably. How much of a part of it? Difficult to say.

Is making sure guys get fully healthy prior to returning by doing a proper concussion protocol going to decrease long term issues . . . we hope so.

In addition, they are also getting MANY hits to the head that do not cause concussion and are those contributing to a negative long term neurologic outcome. Probably. The offensive linemen are in collisions that are the equivalent of a car crash 50-60 times every sunday. . . plus there's practice. . .

 

[Todem]

So many people talking **** about Tua. Well this last game is what happens when you don't have a good QB.

Miami is in trouble if Tua can't come back this year. And long term it is not good if Tua can't stay healthy.

So many "fans" wanted Tua gone.... whelp so much for the season if he is gone.

This team can’t move forward with a concussion prone QB.

If we don’t take another QB in 2025 we are insane.

Tua has proven a few things:

1. Great system QB in McD’s system.
2. Can’t consistently beat winning teams.
3. Can’t stay healthy.
4. Can’t make off script plays
5. Can’t scramble because he is so concussion prone and tackle prone. Why is he playing again?

That equals not a franchise QB, not a guy you shell out 55MM a year for.

It’s just bat **** crazy what NFL owners have done around the league.

Anyway we will be talking about a new QB very soon. I don’t see Tua doing much this season.

And before he exited that Buffalo game he was hit garbage that night…..again vs a winning team.

Yeah great season in 2023….until when it counted in December and January.

I bought in last season…..was thrilled with that great start to the season and then right in cue we folded Like a lawn chair. And BTW the injuries were primarily on the defensive side of the ball. And when Tyreek was out? Tua could not get anyone else going and we paid Waddle who has shown what? What has he shown that makes us think he is worth that kind of money?

Again I am only giving my opinion and what my eyes see. Waddle had two monster drops in our biggest game in 2022.

And when Tyreek went down…..nowhere to be found in 2023 as 1B.

He is not an alpha.

This team is a mess……again.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

@Jacob's Ladder. You bring up an interesting angle, $$$. Are you referring to Favre trying to get money from the NFL for his concussions, or researchers getting funding to study CTE?

This made me think about Tua and whether he would qualify for CTE $$ from the NFL in the future, given that he should be fully aware of the risks.

Honestly, all of the above and you can include the player's union, equipment manufacturers, ambulance chasing lawyers and more. Follow the money.

Further research is warranted, but correlation does not equal causation. All the jumping to conclusions on limited information is a pretty big annoyance of mine, especially when it's usually driven by dollars and/or agendas.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Brett Favre just disclosed that he has Parkinson's at age 54. Head trauma is a likely risk factor for getting PD, although the causal association is not certain. I wonder if Brett's disclosure changes Tua's mind about retiring. BTW, Favre is testifying before congress about "his potential misuse of taxpayer money."

Brett Favre tells Congress he's been diagnosed with Parkinson's

The embattled former Green Bay quarterback made the surprising disclosure as he testified about possible misuse of taxpayer money.

www.nbcnews.com

Traumatic brain injury and risk of Parkinson's disease: a meta-analysis - PubMed

Our result suggests that TBI is a major risk factor for developing PD later in life. At this time, there is a lack of populous prospective cohort studies with sufficient follow-up period to provide a well-documented association between the onset of PD and severity, frequency, and location of...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Or it could be do to his painkiller addiction, alcohol abuse, heredity or any other number of environmental factors that are known to increase your chances of getting the disease. But yeah, let's blame it on head trauma because that's where the $$$ are.

This right here is why it is so difficult to determine how much is to blame on the head trauma when these guys have issues later in life. The players that are older now were treated very differently than the players today. They were prescribed painkillers like candy to the point that a very large percentage of them were addicted. They were not held out as long when there was head trauma. It was common place to "get your bell rung" and go back out there.

Then there's the other factors at play as you said, alcohol abuse in his case, hereditary/family history, etc.

Is head trauma a part of it. . . Probably. How much of a part of it? Difficult to say.

Is making sure guys get fully healthy prior to returning by doing a proper concussion protocol going to decrease long term issues . . . we hope so.

In addition, they are also getting MANY hits to the head that do not cause concussion and are those contributing to a negative long term neurologic outcome. Probably. The offensive linemen are in collisions that are the equivalent of a car crash 50-60 times every sunday. . . plus there's practice. . .

I didn't play football or soccer past high school. I've also competed in boxing and MMA. I've suffered more head trauma than I care to admit. In pee wee football, that's exactly what we called it. Getting our bell rung. I'm close to 50 now and I don't believe I've suffered any effects from my concussions. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones. Maybe I'm an outlier. Maybe this is all B.S. driven by dollars. I would however say my knees, ankles, elbows, shoulders and back have paid the price.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

So many people talking **** about Tua. Well this last game is what happens when you don't have a good QB.

Miami is in trouble if Tua can't come back this year. And long term it is not good if Tua can't stay healthy.

So many "fans" wanted Tua gone.... whelp so much for the season if he is gone.

This team can’t move forward with a concussion prone QB.

If we don’t take another QB in 2025 we are insane.

Tua has proven a few things:

1. Great system QB in McD’s system.
2. Can’t consistently beat winning teams.
3. Can’t stay healthy.
4. Can’t make off script plays
5. Can’t scramble because he is so concussion prone and tackle prone. Why is he playing again?

That equals not a franchise QB, not a guy you shell out 55MM a year for.

It’s just bat **** crazy what NFL owners have done around the league.

Anyway we will be talking about a new QB very soon. I don’t see Tua doing much this season.

And before he exited that Buffalo game he was hit garbage that night…..again vs a winning team.

Yeah great season in 2023….until when it counted in December and January.

I bought in last season…..was thrilled with that great start to the season and then right in cue we folded Like a lawn chair. And BTW the injuries were primarily on the defensive side of the ball. And when Tyreek was out? Tua could not get anyone else going and we paid Waddle who has shown what? What has he shown that makes us think he is worth that kind of money?

Again I am only giving my opinion and what my eyes see. Waddle had two monster drops in our biggest game in 2022.

And when Tyreek went down…..nowhere to be found in 2023 as 1B.

He is not an alpha.

This team is a mess……again.

Let Tua play the year out if he wants to because system QB or not, he's the best you've got, but I agree, after that you have to move on. Draft his replacement and go from there. You can't start Boyle the rest of the season. You'll lose the team.

 

[Todem]

So many people talking **** about Tua. Well this last game is what happens when you don't have a good QB.

Miami is in trouble if Tua can't come back this year. And long term it is not good if Tua can't stay healthy.

So many "fans" wanted Tua gone.... whelp so much for the season if he is gone.

This team can’t move forward with a concussion prone QB.

If we don’t take another QB in 2025 we are insane.

Tua has proven a few things:

1. Great system QB in McD’s system.
2. Can’t consistently beat winning teams.
3. Can’t stay healthy.
4. Can’t make off script plays
5. Can’t scramble because he is so concussion prone and tackle prone. Why is he playing again?

That equals not a franchise QB, not a guy you shell out 55MM a year for.

It’s just bat **** crazy what NFL owners have done around the league.

Anyway we will be talking about a new QB very soon. I don’t see Tua doing much this season.

And before he exited that Buffalo game he was hit garbage that night…..again vs a winning team.

Yeah great season in 2023….until when it counted in December and January.

I bought in last season…..was thrilled with that great start to the season and then right in cue we folded Like a lawn chair. And BTW the injuries were primarily on the defensive side of the ball. And when Tyreek was out? Tua could not get anyone else going and we paid Waddle who has shown what? What has he shown that makes us think he is worth that kind of money?

Again I am only giving my opinion and what my eyes see. Waddle had two monster drops in our biggest game in 2022.

And when Tyreek went down…..nowhere to be found in 2023 as 1B.

He is not an alpha.

This team is a mess……again.

Let Tua play the year out if he wants to because system QB or not, he's the best you've got, but I agree, after that you have to move on. Draft his replacement and go from there. You can't start Boyle the rest of the season. You'll lose the team.

Yeah we are in a huge pickle.

My apprehension is Tua is not going to make it thru this season IMO. This OL is worse than last season. Actually last season we had a good OL.

I would be getting Huntley up to speed pronto. This will more than likely be the guy if he stays healthy.

Tua is always one simple hit from being knocked right out again.

 

[JohnnyU]

So many people talking **** about Tua. Well this last game is what happens when you don't have a good QB.

Miami is in trouble if Tua can't come back this year. And long term it is not good if Tua can't stay healthy.

So many "fans" wanted Tua gone.... whelp so much for the season if he is gone.

This team can’t move forward with a concussion prone QB.

If we don’t take another QB in 2025 we are insane.

Tua has proven a few things:

1. Great system QB in McD’s system.
2. Can’t consistently beat winning teams.
3. Can’t stay healthy.
4. Can’t make off script plays
5. Can’t scramble because he is so concussion prone and tackle prone. Why is he playing again?

That equals not a franchise QB, not a guy you shell out 55MM a year for.

It’s just bat **** crazy what NFL owners have done around the league.

Anyway we will be talking about a new QB very soon. I don’t see Tua doing much this season.

And before he exited that Buffalo game he was hit garbage that night…..again vs a winning team.

Yeah great season in 2023….until when it counted in December and January.

I bought in last season…..was thrilled with that great start to the season and then right in cue we folded Like a lawn chair. And BTW the injuries were primarily on the defensive side of the ball. And when Tyreek was out? Tua could not get anyone else going and we paid Waddle who has shown what? What has he shown that makes us think he is worth that kind of money?

Again I am only giving my opinion and what my eyes see. Waddle had two monster drops in our biggest game in 2022.

And when Tyreek went down…..nowhere to be found in 2023 as 1B.

He is not an alpha.

This team is a mess……again.

Let Tua play the year out if he wants to because system QB or not, he's the best you've got, but I agree, after that you have to move on. Draft his replacement and go from there. You can't start Boyle the rest of the season. You'll lose the team.

Yeah we are in a huge pickle.

My apprehension is Tua is not going to make it thru this season IMO. This OL is worse than last season. Actually last season we had a good OL.

I would be getting Huntley up to speed pronto. This will more than likely be the guy if he stays healthy.

Tua is always one simple hit from being knocked right out again.

From what little I’ve seen of Huntley he certainly isn’t the answer

 

[Todem]

So many people talking **** about Tua. Well this last game is what happens when you don't have a good QB.

Miami is in trouble if Tua can't come back this year. And long term it is not good if Tua can't stay healthy.

So many "fans" wanted Tua gone.... whelp so much for the season if he is gone.

This team can’t move forward with a concussion prone QB.

If we don’t take another QB in 2025 we are insane.

Tua has proven a few things:

1. Great system QB in McD’s system.
2. Can’t consistently beat winning teams.
3. Can’t stay healthy.
4. Can’t make off script plays
5. Can’t scramble because he is so concussion prone and tackle prone. Why is he playing again?

That equals not a franchise QB, not a guy you shell out 55MM a year for.

It’s just bat **** crazy what NFL owners have done around the league.

Anyway we will be talking about a new QB very soon. I don’t see Tua doing much this season.

And before he exited that Buffalo game he was hit garbage that night…..again vs a winning team.

Yeah great season in 2023….until when it counted in December and January.

I bought in last season…..was thrilled with that great start to the season and then right in cue we folded Like a lawn chair. And BTW the injuries were primarily on the defensive side of the ball. And when Tyreek was out? Tua could not get anyone else going and we paid Waddle who has shown what? What has he shown that makes us think he is worth that kind of money?

Again I am only giving my opinion and what my eyes see. Waddle had two monster drops in our biggest game in 2022.

And when Tyreek went down…..nowhere to be found in 2023 as 1B.

He is not an alpha.

This team is a mess……again.

Let Tua play the year out if he wants to because system QB or not, he's the best you've got, but I agree, after that you have to move on. Draft his replacement and go from there. You can't start Boyle the rest of the season. You'll lose the team.

Yeah we are in a huge pickle.

My apprehension is Tua is not going to make it thru this season IMO. This OL is worse than last season. Actually last season we had a good OL.

I would be getting Huntley up to speed pronto. This will more than likely be the guy if he stays healthy.

Tua is always one simple hit from being knocked right out again.

From what little I’ve seen of Huntley he certainly isn’t the answer

Better than Boyle….the bar is in the basement.

Fins season is over. I am not delusional.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

So many people talking **** about Tua. Well this last game is what happens when you don't have a good QB.

Miami is in trouble if Tua can't come back this year. And long term it is not good if Tua can't stay healthy.

So many "fans" wanted Tua gone.... whelp so much for the season if he is gone.

This team can’t move forward with a concussion prone QB.

If we don’t take another QB in 2025 we are insane.

Tua has proven a few things:

1. Great system QB in McD’s system.
2. Can’t consistently beat winning teams.
3. Can’t stay healthy.
4. Can’t make off script plays
5. Can’t scramble because he is so concussion prone and tackle prone. Why is he playing again?

That equals not a franchise QB, not a guy you shell out 55MM a year for.

It’s just bat **** crazy what NFL owners have done around the league.

Anyway we will be talking about a new QB very soon. I don’t see Tua doing much this season.

And before he exited that Buffalo game he was hit garbage that night…..again vs a winning team.

Yeah great season in 2023….until when it counted in December and January.

I bought in last season…..was thrilled with that great start to the season and then right in cue we folded Like a lawn chair. And BTW the injuries were primarily on the defensive side of the ball. And when Tyreek was out? Tua could not get anyone else going and we paid Waddle who has shown what? What has he shown that makes us think he is worth that kind of money?

Again I am only giving my opinion and what my eyes see. Waddle had two monster drops in our biggest game in 2022.

And when Tyreek went down…..nowhere to be found in 2023 as 1B.

He is not an alpha.

This team is a mess……again.

Let Tua play the year out if he wants to because system QB or not, he's the best you've got, but I agree, after that you have to move on. Draft his replacement and go from there. You can't start Boyle the rest of the season. You'll lose the team.

Yeah we are in a huge pickle.

My apprehension is Tua is not going to make it thru this season IMO. This OL is worse than last season. Actually last season we had a good OL.

I would be getting Huntley up to speed pronto. This will more than likely be the guy if he stays healthy.

Tua is always one simple hit from being knocked right out again.

He's a grown man. If he wants to play and the doctors clear him (mitigating any potential litigation), let him play, but it's clear you have to move on. I agree with you, Tua will probably not last the year if he plays again. This offensive line is one of the worst in the league with poor play and injuries. They can't protect him, but like I said, he's the best you've got.

If I were the Dolphins, I'd throw a 3rd to the Steelers for Russ. Let Denver pay his salary and see what he can do. You still have to draft a QB next season, but Wilson may be a much better bridge to the future than Tua will be. As much flack as Wilson has caught over the last few years, much of it deserved, he actually played pretty well last season. Denver's problems went well beyond Russ and Payton hated him. If he hadn't been benched, Denver likely makes the playoffs last season. He wasn't the reason for their losing and Payton probably benched him because he knew he wanted to move on for more reasons than just his performance. If they made the playoffs with Russ, and then won? Payton would have been forced to keep him around.

 

[Ray_T]

And before he exited that Buffalo game he was hit garbage that night…..again vs a winning team.

honestly he was so bad it makes me wonder if he took a hit early in the game and got a minor concussion from that. his vision and his play were wayyyyy off.

That last hit could have just been the icing on the cake.

 

[SoBeDad]

Boyle is a fine NFL QB.

Bottom for Beck. Slump for Sanders.

Actually, Boyle made some nice throws in the Seattle game, including a perfect throw to Smythe in the corner of the end zone. A couple of nice throws to Julian Hill too.

 

[JohnnyU]

Boyle is a fine NFL QB.

Bottom for Beck. Slump for Sanders.

Actually, Boyle made some nice throws in the Seattle game, including a perfect throw to Smythe in the corner of the end zone. A couple of nice throws to Julian Hill too.

Yep I’m sure his mother is a big fan. If you’re playing for the 1.01 you play the Thompson’s and Boyle’s of the world

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Boyle is a fine NFL QB.

Bottom for Beck. Slump for Sanders.

Actually, Boyle made some nice throws in the Seattle game, including a perfect throw to Smythe in the corner of the end zone. A couple of nice throws to Julian Hill too.

Boyle is a fine NFL QB? I have no idea how he's still in the league.

Boyle has an NFL career completion percentage of 61.73%. Boyle has throw 4 TDs and 12 INTs. This is his 7th season in the NFL. He has played for 6 NFL teams. Boyle's career QB Rating is 56.4. He barely played in college, and never played well. He started his college career at UCONN and transferred his senior season to Eastern Kentucky his senior season where he went 4-7. His illustrious college career include 4 wins and 15 losses, 12 TDs and 26 INTs, 55.5% completion percentage and only 3,371 yards in 19 starts. This guy sucks, and has always sucked. If GB's QB whisperers couldn't turn him into an NFL QB, no one can.

Back to my question, how in the hell is he still bouncing around the league? He's like the poor man's version of Nathan Peterman.

 

[SoBeDad]

Back to my question, how in the hell is he still bouncing around the league? He's like the poor man's version of Nathan Peterman.

Supposedly picks things up fast, and good locker room mentoring guy. Also played in GB, perhaps similar terminology due to LeFleur.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Back to my question, how in the hell is he still bouncing around the league? He's like the poor man's version of Nathan Peterman.

Supposedly picks things up fast, and good locker room mentoring guy. Also played in GB, perhaps similar terminology due to LeFleur.

Seems like he should be a coach of some sorts. He’s not an NFL QB.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

So many people talking **** about Tua. Well this last game is what happens when you don't have a good QB.

Miami is in trouble if Tua can't come back this year. And long term it is not good if Tua can't stay healthy.

So many "fans" wanted Tua gone.... whelp so much for the season if he is gone.

Agreed. Tua might be that system qb people claim he is, but he was damn productive in that scheme. I'd assume some of the scheme is specifically designed to his strengths also. Look. I feel for the kid, but who am I to say anything in response to his decision to keep playing? Absolutely avoid the hits that you can. If that means u have to punt, then you punt. And for goodness sake please wear that damn super helmet.

The 2023 Dolphins aren't necessarily the 2024 Dolphins. Even last year down the stretch, Tua's numbers fell off hard as teams seemed to figure out the system a bit (Tua had 6 total TDs and 5 INTs in his last 5 games, and threw for around 7ypa). He wasn't exactly off to a hot start this year either.

So it's not like Tua was slinging it around for 4 TDs a game and then some above average QB came in and struggled. Tua himself was struggling well before the injury, and the replacement was probably the worst QB in the entire NFL, so that doesn't really tell us much.

The question is what would it have looked like if we'd plugged Andy Dalton into the early 2023 Dolphins. I think it would have still looked pretty good.

 

[Big Nate]

If Miami wants to try to save this year (I don't think they personally can and I'm the most positive guy out there) they need to look at who is available. Maybe Huntley can be that guy but I'm not holding my breath. I think he can be serviceable but he's not leading Miami to the playoffs, especially not beating BUF and NYJ the way the look now.

So either they accept the tank or they see who is realistically available (it might be a gross list but here goes):

Flacco (probably my #1 cheap option)
Russ "unlimited" Wilson (might have threw up in my mouth but he's better than what we currently have)
Jimmy G (hahah J/K he can't win)
Trey Lance (would be an adventure)
Which leads me to - Cooper Rush - would DAL give him up? He has helped DAL win a few games
Tyrod Taylor - maybe?

Personally I want Miami to be competitive in games so that the fantasy options perform (Hill, Waddle, Achane etc). We need a competent QB and I'm not sure we are there with anyone currently on the roster. I also hope Miami is in place to draft a QB next year. Thing is, no guarantee anyone they draft turns out. Been some really subpar QBs coming out lately unless they sit a while and develop without any pressure on them to perform out of the gates.

 

[KellysHeroes]

If Miami wants to try to save this year (I don't think they personally can and I'm the most positive guy out there) they need to look at who is available. Maybe Huntley can be that guy but I'm not holding my breath. I think he can be serviceable but he's not leading Miami to the playoffs, especially not beating BUF and NYJ the way the look now.

So either they accept the tank or they see who is realistically available (it might be a gross list but here goes):

Flacco (probably my #1 cheap option)
Russ "unlimited" Wilson (might have threw up in my mouth but he's better than what we currently have)
Jimmy G (hahah J/K he can't win)
Trey Lance (would be an adventure)
Which leads me to - Cooper Rush - would DAL give him up? He has helped DAL win a few games
Tyrod Taylor - maybe?

Personally I want Miami to be competitive in games so that the fantasy options perform (Hill, Waddle, Achane etc). We need a competent QB and I'm not sure we are there with anyone currently on the roster. I also hope Miami is in place to draft a QB next year. Thing is, no guarantee anyone they draft turns out. Been some really subpar QBs coming out lately unless they sit a while and develop without any pressure on them to perform out of the gates.

I honestly think Zach Wilson on that offense with those coaches would turn heads

 

[Big Nate]

If Miami wants to try to save this year (I don't think they personally can and I'm the most positive guy out there) they need to look at who is available. Maybe Huntley can be that guy but I'm not holding my breath. I think he can be serviceable but he's not leading Miami to the playoffs, especially not beating BUF and NYJ the way the look now.

So either they accept the tank or they see who is realistically available (it might be a gross list but here goes):

Flacco (probably my #1 cheap option)
Russ "unlimited" Wilson (might have threw up in my mouth but he's better than what we currently have)
Jimmy G (hahah J/K he can't win)
Trey Lance (would be an adventure)
Which leads me to - Cooper Rush - would DAL give him up? He has helped DAL win a few games
Tyrod Taylor - maybe?

Personally I want Miami to be competitive in games so that the fantasy options perform (Hill, Waddle, Achane etc). We need a competent QB and I'm not sure we are there with anyone currently on the roster. I also hope Miami is in place to draft a QB next year. Thing is, no guarantee anyone they draft turns out. Been some really subpar QBs coming out lately unless they sit a while and develop without any pressure on them to perform out of the gates.

I honestly think Zach Wilson on that offense with those coaches would turn heads

Maybe if this situation happened a year or 2 down the road. He might end up on the Darnold path but probably needs more time.

Maybe with more play action and bootlegs getting him out of the pocket might help. I'm still iffy on him.

 

[Ray_T]

Boyle is a fine NFL QB.

Bottom for Beck. Slump for Sanders.

Actually, Boyle made some nice throws in the Seattle game, including a perfect throw to Smythe in the corner of the end zone. A couple of nice throws to Julian Hill too.

Boyle is a fine NFL QB? I have no idea how he's still in the league.

Boyle has an NFL career completion percentage of 61.73%. Boyle has throw 4 TDs and 12 INTs. This is his 7th season in the NFL. He has played for 6 NFL teams. Boyle's career QB Rating is 56.4. He barely played in college, and never played well. He started his college career at UCONN and transferred his senior season to Eastern Kentucky his senior season where he went 4-7. His illustrious college career include 4 wins and 15 losses, 12 TDs and 26 INTs, 55.5% completion percentage and only 3,371 yards in 19 starts. This guy sucks, and has always sucked. If GB's QB whisperers couldn't turn him into an NFL QB, no one can.

Back to my question, how in the hell is he still bouncing around the league? He's like the poor man's version of Nathan Peterman.

I see your point.
though the 61% career competion percentage isnt bad. this is likely why he stuck it out. if you can cut down on the INT's he could actually potentially be a player who isnt crappy.

keep in mind, hes a clipboard carrying QB3. so the bar is pretty low at that point.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Boyle is a fine NFL QB.

Bottom for Beck. Slump for Sanders.

Actually, Boyle made some nice throws in the Seattle game, including a perfect throw to Smythe in the corner of the end zone. A couple of nice throws to Julian Hill too.

Boyle is a fine NFL QB? I have no idea how he's still in the league.

Boyle has an NFL career completion percentage of 61.73%. Boyle has throw 4 TDs and 12 INTs. This is his 7th season in the NFL. He has played for 6 NFL teams. Boyle's career QB Rating is 56.4. He barely played in college, and never played well. He started his college career at UCONN and transferred his senior season to Eastern Kentucky his senior season where he went 4-7. His illustrious college career include 4 wins and 15 losses, 12 TDs and 26 INTs, 55.5% completion percentage and only 3,371 yards in 19 starts. This guy sucks, and has always sucked. If GB's QB whisperers couldn't turn him into an NFL QB, no one can.

Back to my question, how in the hell is he still bouncing around the league? He's like the poor man's version of Nathan Peterman.

I see your point.
though the 61% career competion percentage isnt bad. this is likely why he stuck it out. if you can cut down on the INT's he could actually potentially be a player who isnt crappy.

keep in mind, hes a clipboard carrying QB3. so the bar is pretty low at that point.

The average in the NFL is 65.7%, so he's well below that. And there's when you dig just beneath the surface, things look even more bleak. Boyle's yards per attempt for his career is 5.17 yards, meaning he is not effectively pushing the ball down the field making his completion percentage look worse. Every start he's had teams have clogged the box and he simply cannot make them pay. Even worse, his IAY/PA is only 6.5 yards, meaning he's not even trying to push the ball down the field...again, making that below average completion percentage look beyond sub-optimal. What's worse, is he's had some pretty good WRs to throw to at every stop, every opportunity.

EDIT As a point of reference, ZERO teams had a yards per attempt lower than 5.17 yards in 2023, not the Carolina Panthers, not the New York Jets, not the New York Giants, not the New England Patriots, not anyone and it wasn't particularly close.

He seems like a coach in the making or a practice squad guy, or like you put it, a clipboard carrying QB3. He's awful and as thin as the position is in the NFL, there are plenty of guys out there on practice squads that deserve reps before him. He's just another case of NFL groupthink and wanting to make the comfortable choice, but he shouldn't see a down of football on Sundays. He doesn't belong. The guy sucks at football. He has since college. I don't get it.

 

[travdogg]

If Miami wants to try to save this year (I don't think they personally can and I'm the most positive guy out there) they need to look at who is available. Maybe Huntley can be that guy but I'm not holding my breath. I think he can be serviceable but he's not leading Miami to the playoffs, especially not beating BUF and NYJ the way the look now.

So either they accept the tank or they see who is realistically available (it might be a gross list but here goes):

Flacco (probably my #1 cheap option)
Russ "unlimited" Wilson (might have threw up in my mouth but he's better than what we currently have)
Jimmy G (hahah J/K he can't win)
Trey Lance (would be an adventure)
Which leads me to - Cooper Rush - would DAL give him up? He has helped DAL win a few games
Tyrod Taylor - maybe?

Personally I want Miami to be competitive in games so that the fantasy options perform (Hill, Waddle, Achane etc). We need a competent QB and I'm not sure we are there with anyone currently on the roster. I also hope Miami is in place to draft a QB next year. Thing is, no guarantee anyone they draft turns out. Been some really subpar QBs coming out lately unless they sit a while and develop without any pressure on them to perform out of the gates.

I think Tennessee and New England are both beatable with Huntley. At Indy isn't a 100% loss the way Richardson is playing. I think they can absolutely be 3-3 when Tua is eligible for Oct 27 against Arizona.

I think Jimmy G is easily the best option if they were to make a deal, especially as he likely wouldn't need time to learn the offense, as he's been with McDaniel in SF, and its a version of that offense.

If I were ranking these QBs I'd say:
1. Tua
2. Wilson
3. Jimmy G
4. Flacco
5. Tyrod
6. Lance
7. Rush
8. Huntley
9. Boyle
10. Thompson

I think Flacco wouldn't be like what he was behind the Browns OL last year, he'd be a sitting duck in Miami, though he'd at least keep the fantasy guys relevant when he wasn't throwing INTs. Felt very lightning in a bottle. I highly doubt the 3-0 Steelers would deal Wilson, especially with Fields style/injury history. Likewise, why would the NYJ help Miami?

I think either Jimmy G or starting Huntley until Tua is back are the best options.

 

[JohnnyU]

If Miami wants to try to save this year (I don't think they personally can and I'm the most positive guy out there) they need to look at who is available. Maybe Huntley can be that guy but I'm not holding my breath. I think he can be serviceable but he's not leading Miami to the playoffs, especially not beating BUF and NYJ the way the look now.

So either they accept the tank or they see who is realistically available (it might be a gross list but here goes):

Flacco (probably my #1 cheap option)
Russ "unlimited" Wilson (might have threw up in my mouth but he's better than what we currently have)
Jimmy G (hahah J/K he can't win)
Trey Lance (would be an adventure)
Which leads me to - Cooper Rush - would DAL give him up? He has helped DAL win a few games
Tyrod Taylor - maybe?

Personally I want Miami to be competitive in games so that the fantasy options perform (Hill, Waddle, Achane etc). We need a competent QB and I'm not sure we are there with anyone currently on the roster. I also hope Miami is in place to draft a QB next year. Thing is, no guarantee anyone they draft turns out. Been some really subpar QBs coming out lately unless they sit a while and develop without any pressure on them to perform out of the gates.

I think Tennessee and New England are both beatable with Huntley. At Indy isn't a 100% loss the way Richardson is playing. I think they can absolutely be 3-3 when Tua is eligible for Oct 27 against Arizona.

I think Jimmy G is easily the best option if they were to make a deal, especially as he likely wouldn't need time to learn the offense, as he's been with McDaniel in SF, and its a version of that offense.

If I were ranking these QBs I'd say:
1. Tua
2. Wilson
3. Jimmy G
4. Flacco
5. Tyrod
6. Lance
7. Rush
8. Huntley
9. Boyle
10. Thompson

I think Flacco wouldn't be like what he was behind the Browns OL last year, he'd be a sitting duck in Miami, though he'd at least keep the fantasy guys relevant when he wasn't throwing INTs. Felt very lightning in a bottle. I highly doubt the 3-0 Steelers would deal Wilson, especially with Fields style/injury history. Likewise, why would the NYJ help Miami?

I think either Jimmy G or starting Huntley until Tua is back are the best options.

I agree with Garoppolo. Flacco isn’t going anywhere.

 

[FarFromHome]

Joe Flacco has made 180 million dollars in NFL salary. Plus whatever endorsement money. Hasnt hit double digit games played since 2017. STUD

 

[JohnnyU]

Joe Flacco has made 180 million dollars in NFL salary. Plus whatever endorsement money. Hasnt hit double digit games played since 2017. STUD

I think he’s an ideal backup at this stage of his career.

 

[FarFromHome]

Joe Flacco has made 180 million dollars in NFL salary. Plus whatever endorsement money. Hasnt hit double digit games played since 2017. STUD

I think he’s an ideal backup at this stage of his career.

Yep. And for an old man that dude can still chuck it

 

[JohnnyU]

Joe Flacco has made 180 million dollars in NFL salary. Plus whatever endorsement money. Hasnt hit double digit games played since 2017. STUD

I think he’s an ideal backup at this stage of his career.

Yep. And for an old man that dude can still chuck it

All the way to Delaware.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

If Miami wants to try to save this year (I don't think they personally can and I'm the most positive guy out there) they need to look at who is available. Maybe Huntley can be that guy but I'm not holding my breath. I think he can be serviceable but he's not leading Miami to the playoffs, especially not beating BUF and NYJ the way the look now.

So either they accept the tank or they see who is realistically available (it might be a gross list but here goes):

Flacco (probably my #1 cheap option)
Russ "unlimited" Wilson (might have threw up in my mouth but he's better than what we currently have)
Jimmy G (hahah J/K he can't win)
Trey Lance (would be an adventure)
Which leads me to - Cooper Rush - would DAL give him up? He has helped DAL win a few games
Tyrod Taylor - maybe?

Personally I want Miami to be competitive in games so that the fantasy options perform (Hill, Waddle, Achane etc). We need a competent QB and I'm not sure we are there with anyone currently on the roster. I also hope Miami is in place to draft a QB next year. Thing is, no guarantee anyone they draft turns out. Been some really subpar QBs coming out lately unless they sit a while and develop without any pressure on them to perform out of the gates.

I think Tennessee and New England are both beatable with Huntley. At Indy isn't a 100% loss the way Richardson is playing. I think they can absolutely be 3-3 when Tua is eligible for Oct 27 against Arizona.

I think Jimmy G is easily the best option if they were to make a deal, especially as he likely wouldn't need time to learn the offense, as he's been with McDaniel in SF, and its a version of that offense.

If I were ranking these QBs I'd say:
1. Tua
2. Wilson
3. Jimmy G
4. Flacco
5. Tyrod
6. Lance
7. Rush
8. Huntley
9. Boyle
10. Thompson

I think Flacco wouldn't be like what he was behind the Browns OL last year, he'd be a sitting duck in Miami, though he'd at least keep the fantasy guys relevant when he wasn't throwing INTs. Felt very lightning in a bottle. I highly doubt the 3-0 Steelers would deal Wilson, especially with Fields style/injury history. Likewise, why would the NYJ help Miami?

I think either Jimmy G or starting Huntley until Tua is back are the best options.

Russ is easily the best QB on that list, and he proved he still has something left in the tank last year. But, I agree with your assessment, Jimmy G is the best fit here and it's not really close. His style and ability to hit timing routes would provide great value to this team. I wouldn't go after any of the other guys. I don't think they give you any better chance to win than Huntley does, who let's not forget looked pretty good in spurts for the Ravens.

I held out hope for Thompson until what he just put on tape vs Seattle. TBH, he looked scared. At the end of the first half with seconds remaining, on two consecutive plays he decided to eat it and take a big hit vs throwing the ball. That's inexcusable.

 

[JohnnyU]

If Miami wants to try to save this year (I don't think they personally can and I'm the most positive guy out there) they need to look at who is available. Maybe Huntley can be that guy but I'm not holding my breath. I think he can be serviceable but he's not leading Miami to the playoffs, especially not beating BUF and NYJ the way the look now.

So either they accept the tank or they see who is realistically available (it might be a gross list but here goes):

Flacco (probably my #1 cheap option)
Russ "unlimited" Wilson (might have threw up in my mouth but he's better than what we currently have)
Jimmy G (hahah J/K he can't win)
Trey Lance (would be an adventure)
Which leads me to - Cooper Rush - would DAL give him up? He has helped DAL win a few games
Tyrod Taylor - maybe?

Personally I want Miami to be competitive in games so that the fantasy options perform (Hill, Waddle, Achane etc). We need a competent QB and I'm not sure we are there with anyone currently on the roster. I also hope Miami is in place to draft a QB next year. Thing is, no guarantee anyone they draft turns out. Been some really subpar QBs coming out lately unless they sit a while and develop without any pressure on them to perform out of the gates.

I think Tennessee and New England are both beatable with Huntley. At Indy isn't a 100% loss the way Richardson is playing. I think they can absolutely be 3-3 when Tua is eligible for Oct 27 against Arizona.

I think Jimmy G is easily the best option if they were to make a deal, especially as he likely wouldn't need time to learn the offense, as he's been with McDaniel in SF, and its a version of that offense.

If I were ranking these QBs I'd say:
1. Tua
2. Wilson
3. Jimmy G
4. Flacco
5. Tyrod
6. Lance
7. Rush
8. Huntley
9. Boyle
10. Thompson

I think Flacco wouldn't be like what he was behind the Browns OL last year, he'd be a sitting duck in Miami, though he'd at least keep the fantasy guys relevant when he wasn't throwing INTs. Felt very lightning in a bottle. I highly doubt the 3-0 Steelers would deal Wilson, especially with Fields style/injury history. Likewise, why would the NYJ help Miami?

I think either Jimmy G or starting Huntley until Tua is back are the best options.

Russ is easily the best QB on that list, and he proved he still has something left in the tank last year. But, I agree with your assessment, Jimmy G is the best fit here and it's not really close. His style and ability to hit timing routes would provide great value to this team. I wouldn't go after any of the other guys. I don't think they give you any better chance to win than Huntley does, who let's not forget looked pretty good in spurts for the Ravens.

I held out hope for Thompson until what he just put on tape vs Seattle. TBH, he looked scared. At the end of the first half with seconds remaining, on two consecutive plays he decided to eat it and take a big hit vs throwing the ball. That's inexcusable.

Marc Wilson eyes.

 

[BlackCrowes]

I’ve always been a Tyrod fan

 

[Todem]

If Miami wants to try to save this year (I don't think they personally can and I'm the most positive guy out there) they need to look at who is available. Maybe Huntley can be that guy but I'm not holding my breath. I think he can be serviceable but he's not leading Miami to the playoffs, especially not beating BUF and NYJ the way the look now.

So either they accept the tank or they see who is realistically available (it might be a gross list but here goes):

Flacco (probably my #1 cheap option)
Russ "unlimited" Wilson (might have threw up in my mouth but he's better than what we currently have)
Jimmy G (hahah J/K he can't win)
Trey Lance (would be an adventure)
Which leads me to - Cooper Rush - would DAL give him up? He has helped DAL win a few games
Tyrod Taylor - maybe?

Personally I want Miami to be competitive in games so that the fantasy options perform (Hill, Waddle, Achane etc). We need a competent QB and I'm not sure we are there with anyone currently on the roster. I also hope Miami is in place to draft a QB next year. Thing is, no guarantee anyone they draft turns out. Been some really subpar QBs coming out lately unless they sit a while and develop without any pressure on them to perform out of the gates.

Flacco would be pounded into retirement (permanently) behind this line.

If we are gonna take a chance go get Trey Lance for a 5th or 6th. Dallas overpaid with a 4th. See if McD can train him into this system. Kid is an athlete and still really young.

Not that I think he will a savior…but we need to take a chance on another young prospect.

This season in my opinion is not salvageable. Not with this OL.

Sheesh……it’s hard being a Dolphin fan.

 

[Ray_T]

Boyle is a fine NFL QB.

Bottom for Beck. Slump for Sanders.

Actually, Boyle made some nice throws in the Seattle game, including a perfect throw to Smythe in the corner of the end zone. A couple of nice throws to Julian Hill too.

Boyle is a fine NFL QB? I have no idea how he's still in the league.

Boyle has an NFL career completion percentage of 61.73%. Boyle has throw 4 TDs and 12 INTs. This is his 7th season in the NFL. He has played for 6 NFL teams. Boyle's career QB Rating is 56.4. He barely played in college, and never played well. He started his college career at UCONN and transferred his senior season to Eastern Kentucky his senior season where he went 4-7. His illustrious college career include 4 wins and 15 losses, 12 TDs and 26 INTs, 55.5% completion percentage and only 3,371 yards in 19 starts. This guy sucks, and has always sucked. If GB's QB whisperers couldn't turn him into an NFL QB, no one can.

Back to my question, how in the hell is he still bouncing around the league? He's like the poor man's version of Nathan Peterman.

I see your point.
though the 61% career competion percentage isnt bad. this is likely why he stuck it out. if you can cut down on the INT's he could actually potentially be a player who isnt crappy.

keep in mind, hes a clipboard carrying QB3. so the bar is pretty low at that point.

The average in the NFL is 65.7%, so he's well below that. And there's when you dig just beneath the surface, things look even more bleak. Boyle's yards per attempt for his career is 5.17 yards, meaning he is not effectively pushing the ball down the field making his completion percentage look worse. Every start he's had teams have clogged the box and he simply cannot make them pay. Even worse, his IAY/PA is only 6.5 yards, meaning he's not even trying to push the ball down the field...again, making that below average completion percentage look beyond sub-optimal. What's worse, is he's had some pretty good WRs to throw to at every stop, every opportunity.

EDIT As a point of reference, ZERO teams had a yards per attempt lower than 5.17 yards in 2023, not the Carolina Panthers, not the New York Jets, not the New York Giants, not the New England Patriots, not anyone and it wasn't particularly close.

He seems like a coach in the making or a practice squad guy, or like you put it, a clipboard carrying QB3. He's awful and as thin as the position is in the NFL, there are plenty of guys out there on practice squads that deserve reps before him. He's just another case of NFL groupthink and wanting to make the comfortable choice, but he shouldn't see a down of football on Sundays. He doesn't belong. The guy sucks at football. He has since college. I don't get it.

not in disagreement. but this isnt where the bar is for a #3 QB.

if your #3 is completing anywhere near 60% of the passes they are doing well. Not well as a starter. Well for a #3 QB. if he was getting 65% completion rate and getting a good average yards per pass, hed be a starter. Clearly hes not a starter.

And I'm not suggesting he should be.

I'm suggesting if he cleans up the INT's hes good for what he does (#3 QB) Thats all. Might even make #2 if he cleans up the INT's and improves the metrics a bit. but make no mistake, Nobody in the room(myself included) thinks hes a #1 QB.

Lets just clear this part up right now.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Boyle is a fine NFL QB.

Bottom for Beck. Slump for Sanders.

Actually, Boyle made some nice throws in the Seattle game, including a perfect throw to Smythe in the corner of the end zone. A couple of nice throws to Julian Hill too.

Boyle is a fine NFL QB? I have no idea how he's still in the league.

Boyle has an NFL career completion percentage of 61.73%. Boyle has throw 4 TDs and 12 INTs. This is his 7th season in the NFL. He has played for 6 NFL teams. Boyle's career QB Rating is 56.4. He barely played in college, and never played well. He started his college career at UCONN and transferred his senior season to Eastern Kentucky his senior season where he went 4-7. His illustrious college career include 4 wins and 15 losses, 12 TDs and 26 INTs, 55.5% completion percentage and only 3,371 yards in 19 starts. This guy sucks, and has always sucked. If GB's QB whisperers couldn't turn him into an NFL QB, no one can.

Back to my question, how in the hell is he still bouncing around the league? He's like the poor man's version of Nathan Peterman.

I see your point.
though the 61% career competion percentage isnt bad. this is likely why he stuck it out. if you can cut down on the INT's he could actually potentially be a player who isnt crappy.

keep in mind, hes a clipboard carrying QB3. so the bar is pretty low at that point.

The average in the NFL is 65.7%, so he's well below that. And there's when you dig just beneath the surface, things look even more bleak. Boyle's yards per attempt for his career is 5.17 yards, meaning he is not effectively pushing the ball down the field making his completion percentage look worse. Every start he's had teams have clogged the box and he simply cannot make them pay. Even worse, his IAY/PA is only 6.5 yards, meaning he's not even trying to push the ball down the field...again, making that below average completion percentage look beyond sub-optimal. What's worse, is he's had some pretty good WRs to throw to at every stop, every opportunity.

EDIT As a point of reference, ZERO teams had a yards per attempt lower than 5.17 yards in 2023, not the Carolina Panthers, not the New York Jets, not the New York Giants, not the New England Patriots, not anyone and it wasn't particularly close.

He seems like a coach in the making or a practice squad guy, or like you put it, a clipboard carrying QB3. He's awful and as thin as the position is in the NFL, there are plenty of guys out there on practice squads that deserve reps before him. He's just another case of NFL groupthink and wanting to make the comfortable choice, but he shouldn't see a down of football on Sundays. He doesn't belong. The guy sucks at football. He has since college. I don't get it.

not in disagreement. but this isnt where the bar is for a #3 QB.

if your #3 is completing anywhere near 60% of the passes they are doing well. Not well as a starter. Well for a #3 QB. if he was getting 65% completion rate and getting a good average yards per pass, hed be a starter. Clearly hes not a starter.

And I'm not suggesting he should be.

I'm suggesting if he cleans up the INT's hes good for what he does (#3 QB) Thats all. Might even make #2 if he cleans up the INT's and improves the metrics a bit. but make no mistake, Nobody in the room(myself included) thinks hes a #1 QB.

Lets just clear this part up right now.

I guess we just have differing opinions on what a #3 QB should be. There are times, not many, but there are times when your #3 is going to be thrust into action. If that happens, however minimal the chance, I want a young unknown coming in with the potential to catch lightning in a bottle. I certainly don't wait the guy coming in to be a Tim Boyle, a guy I KNOW won't win me a game. Heck, he's a guy I know won't even give me the chance. Give me the unknown with potential over the known with none 100% of the time.

 

[Faust]

Adam Beasley
Adam Schefter reports Tua Tagovailoa is "symptom-free" and appears to be on track to return to the field as soon as Week 8.

x.com

x.com

 

[JohnnyU]

Adam Beasley
Adam Schefter reports Tua Tagovailoa is "symptom-free" and appears to be on track to return to the field as soon as Week 8.

x.com

x.com

If you're 1-5 by then what's the point?

 

[gbill2004]

Adam Beasley
Adam Schefter reports Tua Tagovailoa is "symptom-free" and appears to be on track to return to the field as soon as Week 8.

x.com

x.com

If you're 1-6 by then what's the point?

There's a bye in there so 1-5.

 

[JohnnyU]

Adam Beasley
Adam Schefter reports Tua Tagovailoa is "symptom-free" and appears to be on track to return to the field as soon as Week 8.

x.com

x.com

If you're 1-6 by then what's the point?

There's a bye in there so 1-5.

Correct. I actually looked for their bye before I posted and still got it wrong, lol

 

[gbill2004]

Adam Beasley
Adam Schefter reports Tua Tagovailoa is "symptom-free" and appears to be on track to return to the field as soon as Week 8.

x.com

x.com

If you're 1-6 by then what's the point?

There's a bye in there so 1-5.

Correct. I actually looked for their bye before I posted and still got it wrong, lol

And decent chance they win one of those games, so might be 2-4.

 

[Anarchy99]

Nothing screams excitement more than this week's tilt between the league's #32 scoring team (MIA 11.3 PPG) traveling to square off against the NFL's #31 scoring team (NE 13.0 PPG). Key stat of the game: current New England punter Bryce Baringer (51.7 yards per punt) goes head-to-head against former Patriots punter Jake Bailey (47.6 yards per punt) in an epic battle of field position. Be sure to tune in on Sunday at 1:00 PM Eastern on Fox.

 

[JohnnyU]

Adam Beasley
Adam Schefter reports Tua Tagovailoa is "symptom-free" and appears to be on track to return to the field as soon as Week 8.

x.com

x.com

If you're 1-6 by then what's the point?

There's a bye in there so 1-5.

Correct. I actually looked for their bye before I posted and still got it wrong, lol

And decent chance they win one of those games, so might be 2-4.

Not with that QB.

 

[gbill2004]

Adam Beasley
Adam Schefter reports Tua Tagovailoa is "symptom-free" and appears to be on track to return to the field as soon as Week 8.

x.com

x.com

If you're 1-6 by then what's the point?

There's a bye in there so 1-5.

Correct. I actually looked for their bye before I posted and still got it wrong, lol

And decent chance they win one of those games, so might be 2-4.

Not with that QB.

They could definitely beat the Pats this week. Not saying they will, but good chance they do.

 

[JohnnyU]

Adam Beasley
Adam Schefter reports Tua Tagovailoa is "symptom-free" and appears to be on track to return to the field as soon as Week 8.

x.com

x.com

If you're 1-6 by then what's the point?

There's a bye in there so 1-5.

Correct. I actually looked for their bye before I posted and still got it wrong, lol

And decent chance they win one of those games, so might be 2-4.

Not with that QB.

They could definitely beat the Pats this week. Not saying they will, but good chance they do.

Good chance? Did you watch that passing offense last night? Unless they run it 40 times and are successful, I don't think they can beat anyone with Huntley.

 

[gbill2004]

Adam Beasley
Adam Schefter reports Tua Tagovailoa is "symptom-free" and appears to be on track to return to the field as soon as Week 8.

x.com

x.com

If you're 1-6 by then what's the point?

There's a bye in there so 1-5.

Correct. I actually looked for their bye before I posted and still got it wrong, lol

And decent chance they win one of those games, so might be 2-4.

Not with that QB.

They could definitely beat the Pats this week. Not saying they will, but good chance they do.

Good chance? Did you watch that passing offense last night? Unless they run it 40 times and are successful, I don't think they can beat anyone with Huntley.

So you're a fan of the Patriots offence this season? Plus Huntley has been with the team one week, so with another week in the system he will be a little more comfortable.

 

[JohnnyU]

Adam Beasley
Adam Schefter reports Tua Tagovailoa is "symptom-free" and appears to be on track to return to the field as soon as Week 8.

x.com

x.com

If you're 1-6 by then what's the point?

There's a bye in there so 1-5.

Correct. I actually looked for their bye before I posted and still got it wrong, lol

And decent chance they win one of those games, so might be 2-4.

Not with that QB.

They could definitely beat the Pats this week. Not saying they will, but good chance they do.

Good chance? Did you watch that passing offense last night? Unless they run it 40 times and are successful, I don't think they can beat anyone with Huntley.

So you're a fan of the Patriots offence this season? Plus Huntley has been with the team one week, so with another week in the system he will be a little more comfortable.

Huntley being with the team another week isn't much to hang your hat on, but go ahead and do so. I'm not optimistic that offense can score enough points to beat Alabama right now.

 

[Todem]

Adam Beasley
Adam Schefter reports Tua Tagovailoa is "symptom-free" and appears to be on track to return to the field as soon as Week 8.

x.com

x.com

If you're 1-6 by then what's the point?

There's a bye in there so 1-5.

Correct. I actually looked for their bye before I posted and still got it wrong, lol

And decent chance they win one of those games, so might be 2-4.

Not with that QB.

They could definitely beat the Pats this week. Not saying they will, but good chance they do.

Strongly disagree.

The Dolphins quit last night....at home...down one score. McDaniel has already lost this team.

They won't win another game......and even when Tua comes back...how long before he goes down again. Have you watched that OL? Did you see how Tua actually played in 1.5 games? Forget his stats....stats are for losers. He was very average and missing easy throws and harrased heavily.

This team is toast for 2024.

 

[Todem]

Adam Beasley
Adam Schefter reports Tua Tagovailoa is "symptom-free" and appears to be on track to return to the field as soon as Week 8.

x.com

x.com

If you're 1-6 by then what's the point?

There's a bye in there so 1-5.

Correct. I actually looked for their bye before I posted and still got it wrong, lol

And decent chance they win one of those games, so might be 2-4.

Not with that QB.

They could definitely beat the Pats this week. Not saying they will, but good chance they do.

Good chance? Did you watch that passing offense last night? Unless they run it 40 times and are successful, I don't think they can beat anyone with Huntley.

So you're a fan of the Patriots offence this season? Plus Huntley has been with the team one week, so with another week in the system he will be a little more comfortable.

Huntley being with the team another week isn't much to hang your hat on, but go ahead and do so. I'm not optimistic that offense can score enough points to beat Alabama right now.

He was god awful.....lol...Huntley....ok. Agree JohnnyU

 

[Ray_T]

ESPN’s Adam Schefter said Tagovailoa has experienced no symptoms and could return as soon as Oct. 27 against Arizona, the first game he’s eligible to play after the required minimum four games on injured reserve.

 

[Ray_T]

NFL addresses Tagovailoa situation. Where things stand

NFL addresses Tua Tagovailoa situation amid his recent concussion

ca.yahoo.com

here is the link

 

[Runkle]

I don't know why he didn't wear the Guardian helmet cap, and if he does return, I hope he does opt to go with it.

I assumed that a lot of players just don't want to look different than the rest of the team, but... other than one time in week 1 where an announcer pointed out specifically that a player had opted to use it in explaining the new rule... I don't think I've seen anything about players who've picked it, and certainly nothing unkind. A few times I've been watching games on red zone and noticed players wearing the Guardian cap in the close-up shots, but, once they go to the wide angle it's actually kind of hard to even pick it up that someone has it on. I can't believe any player is going to call another one on the opposing team a wimp, chicken, or whatever words I can't say on this forum, for wearing the cap. They all wear it for parts of preseason practice anyway.

Otherwise, I guess there's maybe a non-zero amount of limitation in the field of view to the sides... but it can't be enough of a difference, even for a QB, to bear the risk of yet another concussion.

Either way, I hope someone gets through to him that he should be valuing his long-term health much more than he's shown to so far.