Team Smokin'
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Immediate return - likely not a whole lot. Not feeling Tua for now. Now, weeks 8+ who knows?
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QB Tua Tagovailoa, MIA (1 Viewer)
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Wrigley
Footballguy
Anybody have a decoder ring?
Todem
Footballguy
IMO 4-6 weeks is best case.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
If Bridgewater does well and Miami goes 3-1 in those games, maybe Tua sits out even after the docs approve his return. Teddy made several plus plays, aside from the INT.Any Tua owners grabbing Bridgewater? I drafted Dak and Lance, then traded for Tua.
3 of the next 4 matchups look nice and the weapons are still there. @NYJ, Min, Pit, @Det
:deadbevo:
Footballguy
I have lifelong shoulder issues from playing tennis. Buddies have elbow issues. Play sports, have pain.You don't hear about too many with CTE issues in tennis and golfI never let my son sniff tackle football….because I know how dangerous the game is and not even in the slightest bit worth the risk.
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Couldn't be more real. These guys are making the choice daily to risk their health in return for millions. Ie the risk is there before it happens.
There is no football without risk - if all of you people on your high horses had any true interest in protecting these guys, you wouldn't let them play at all. The irony of watching the overreaction AFTER it happens is sadly comical.
Injuries aren't a maybe in the NFL... they are a near certainty.
This game is extremely dangerous and injuries regardless of how small or how large are a 100% certainty. I guess you can say that about all the major sports….but football lends itself to the worst kinds of serious injuries.
The media driven narrative and how easily it becomes groupthink is both fascinating and terrifying.
Down Under
Footballguy
I assume that there hasn't been any insider knowledge or reports regarding how long he will be out? Or I missed it.
Todem
Footballguy
I have played sports my entire life as well. However tackle football is on an entirely a different level of dangerous. And while I love watching Football….it’s not for everyone. And what we saw happen to Tua laying on the ground and fencing…..that is a brain injury. He really needs to think long and hard about what he wants to do.I have lifelong shoulder issues from playing tennis. Buddies have elbow issues. Play sports, have pain.You don't hear about too many with CTE issues in tennis and golfI never let my son sniff tackle football….because I know how dangerous the game is and not even in the slightest bit worth the risk.
Couldn't be more real. These guys are making the choice daily to risk their health in return for millions. Ie the risk is there before it happens.
There is no football without risk - if all of you people on your high horses had any true interest in protecting these guys, you wouldn't let them play at all. The irony of watching the overreaction AFTER it happens is sadly comical.
Injuries aren't a maybe in the NFL... they are a near certainty.
This game is extremely dangerous and injuries regardless of how small or how large are a 100% certainty. I guess you can say that about all the major sports….but football lends itself to the worst kinds of serious injuries.
The media driven narrative and how easily it becomes groupthink is both fascinating and terrifying.
I don’t disagree about the media and all the noise in general…..but I am not one of those who falls into the “group think” trap. It was plain as day to see what happened to him and how this game is extremely dangerous. Average length of a career in the NFL is right around 3 years. The extreme high turnover is obvious.
TripleThreat
Footballguy
No news... he's been with the team, no word if he's traveling to NY yet. In addition to the obvious concussion, he still has to get his back right...it's most definitely a thing.
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Footballguy
I have played sports my entire life as well. However tackle football is on an entirely a different level of dangerous. And while I love watching Football….it’s not for everyone. And what we saw happen to Tua laying on the ground and fencing…..that is a brain injury. He really needs to think long and hard about what he wants to do.I have lifelong shoulder issues from playing tennis. Buddies have elbow issues. Play sports, have pain.You don't hear about too many with CTE issues in tennis and golfI never let my son sniff tackle football….because I know how dangerous the game is and not even in the slightest bit worth the risk.
Couldn't be more real. These guys are making the choice daily to risk their health in return for millions. Ie the risk is there before it happens.
There is no football without risk - if all of you people on your high horses had any true interest in protecting these guys, you wouldn't let them play at all. The irony of watching the overreaction AFTER it happens is sadly comical.
Injuries aren't a maybe in the NFL... they are a near certainty.
This game is extremely dangerous and injuries regardless of how small or how large are a 100% certainty. I guess you can say that about all the major sports….but football lends itself to the worst kinds of serious injuries.
The media driven narrative and how easily it becomes groupthink is both fascinating and terrifying.
I don’t disagree about the media and all the noise in general…..but I am not one of those who falls into the “group think” trap. It was plain as day to see what happened to him and how this game is extremely dangerous. Average length of a career in the NFL is right around 3 years. The extreme high turnover is obvious.
I don't think the debate is whether the game is dangerous, or whether that brain injury is scary.
In fact that is my point. We do know that. Everyone knows that. Most importantly the players know that.
So when the media whips up a storm over how football is dangerous every time we see big hits or injuries.... I sit back and marvel. Thanks ESPN/Radio host, you are so provocative in your overly dramatic shock and awe routine... oh you want the coaches fired... the docs should go to jail? YEA BURN THEM AT THE STAKE!
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I agree. I think Teddy and Tua are basically the same QBs: frail, weak armed, but very smart, very accurate and decent (but not special) athleticism. I really don't seem much of a drop off. Even that one crazy game Tua had - a lot of those throws weren't so great, the WRs just made outstanding plays and he got a bit lucky.
Summer Wheat
Footballguy
Good analysis. Only question is how many games will Teddy last as he is as brittle as Tags.
TripleThreat
Footballguy
not sure this qualifies as weak armed.
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Throwing deep =/ arm strength. Chad Pennington had the highest completion percentage on deep balls but had a notoriously weak arm. It shows up more on sideline outs and when a ball needs to be placed into tight spots. Most QBs know how to get loft on their deep balls - that video is a good example. He didn't throw that on a line, he lofted it.
not sure this qualifies as weak armed.
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Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
I think Tua is a bit more accurate than Teddy, but Teddy is more adept at throwing the ball away and scrambling than Tua is. Something should be mentioned that this Shanahan style offense seems to get QBs hurt, which may simply be coincidental, but a deeper look shows that since shanny was named HC in SF there was only one year (2019) his qb made it through the whole year unscathed.
I wouldn't be surprised if Skylar Thompson ends up getting a start in the next few weeks.
I wouldn't be surprised if Skylar Thompson ends up getting a start in the next few weeks.
From Barry Jackson.
>>Tua won't be traveling to New York for game; he's obviously not playing Sunday. He won't be going on IR today or tomorrow, meaning team thus won't rule him out for next 4 games.
This does not mean, of course, that Tua definitely will return within 4 games. He might. He might not. But team not ready to rule out Tua returning within 4 games, per McDaniel comment regarding IR. Remember, Dolphins TE Cethan Carter about to miss 4th game in concussion protocol.<<
>>Tua won't be traveling to New York for game; he's obviously not playing Sunday. He won't be going on IR today or tomorrow, meaning team thus won't rule him out for next 4 games.
This does not mean, of course, that Tua definitely will return within 4 games. He might. He might not. But team not ready to rule out Tua returning within 4 games, per McDaniel comment regarding IR. Remember, Dolphins TE Cethan Carter about to miss 4th game in concussion protocol.<<
Wrigley
Footballguy
Not that it matters, but CBSSL has him listed as expected back week 6
Todem
Footballguy
I don’t disagree with your sentiment on this topic. I don’t like all the fake outrage that plagues social media and television. It’s out of hand and has been for a decade now.I have played sports my entire life as well. However tackle football is on an entirely a different level of dangerous. And while I love watching Football….it’s not for everyone. And what we saw happen to Tua laying on the ground and fencing…..that is a brain injury. He really needs to think long and hard about what he wants to do.I have lifelong shoulder issues from playing tennis. Buddies have elbow issues. Play sports, have pain.You don't hear about too many with CTE issues in tennis and golfI never let my son sniff tackle football….because I know how dangerous the game is and not even in the slightest bit worth the risk.
Couldn't be more real. These guys are making the choice daily to risk their health in return for millions. Ie the risk is there before it happens.
There is no football without risk - if all of you people on your high horses had any true interest in protecting these guys, you wouldn't let them play at all. The irony of watching the overreaction AFTER it happens is sadly comical.
Injuries aren't a maybe in the NFL... they are a near certainty.
This game is extremely dangerous and injuries regardless of how small or how large are a 100% certainty. I guess you can say that about all the major sports….but football lends itself to the worst kinds of serious injuries.
The media driven narrative and how easily it becomes groupthink is both fascinating and terrifying.
I don’t disagree about the media and all the noise in general…..but I am not one of those who falls into the “group think” trap. It was plain as day to see what happened to him and how this game is extremely dangerous. Average length of a career in the NFL is right around 3 years. The extreme high turnover is obvious.
I don't think the debate is whether the game is dangerous, or whether that brain injury is scary.
In fact that is my point. We do know that. Everyone knows that. Most importantly the players know that.
So when the media whips up a storm over how football is dangerous every time we see big hits or injuries.... I sit back and marvel. Thanks ESPN/Radio host, you are so provocative in your overly dramatic shock and awe routine... oh you want the coaches fired... the docs should go to jail? YEA BURN THEM AT THE STAKE!
Todem
Footballguy
Wow. Ok if he is cleared…he is cleared. It is his life….I would think he would take a few more weeks to make sure 100%
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Miami will let him "rest" agains t the Jets and I think it's 50/50 they win/lose, might be even worse than that.
But I'm sure as soon as he is legally cleared to play that he will be right back out there no matter how much people cry about it.
But I'm sure as soon as he is legally cleared to play that he will be right back out there no matter how much people cry about it.
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
I think Miami is confident that Teddy B can do the job for the next few weeks. Now, if Teddy gets hurt or underperforms, I see a little more urgency to get Tua back in the mix. If Teddy beats the jets (and let's face it, it is not the QB that matters for this game, it is our banged up secondary), the minny game the following week is at home vs a non conference opponent (doesn't matter as much). The week after that is Pittsburgh. Now, Tua if he is remotely healthy will want to stick it to Flores so I see him doing everything he can to play in that game. Its also a sunday nighter at home...
VikingFrog
Footballguy
So Tua cleared concussion protocol, but he isn’t playing.
The optics on this whole extravaganza is so weird.
The optics on this whole extravaganza is so weird.
Tua practiced fully but hasn't clear the protocol. But the optics is weird and I think the team pre-determined that Tua wouldn't play this Sunday, but Teddy would be able to play in a backup role. I'm still thinking they wanna see what Skylar can do.
From Step 5:
>>Once the player has fully practiced, he must be first cleared by the team physician. If he clears, he then must be examined by the Independent Neurological Consultant. If that consultant clears the player of concussion symptoms, he is free to play in the next game.<<
Explaining the NFL’s 5-step concussion protocol
An overlook of the NFL’s concussion protocol and how it relates to T.J. Hockenson.
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Galileo
Footballguy
Bridgewater also cleared, but will be in a backup role this week. More oddness
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Yeah. It makes no sense. Especially now that I saw Bridgewater is too. These guys are cleared to play per the protocol. Which the dolphins say Tua was too after his first “back” mishap.
Dez
Footballguy
Not sure I ever seen a team not play a guy who cleared and yet we have both guys one backup and one not playing. If the who Tua thing never happened I bet Teddy B for sure would came back and played last week let alone this week. Going to be a nightmare for us fantasy owners all year long.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Not really too difficult to figure this out IMO. If the team wasn’t confident that he would definitely clear the protocol, then they probably had Thompson take the vast majority of snaps during practice. QB isn’t like other positions where you can just throw a guy in after not practicing the install all week.
I have Josh Allen so I’m pretty set at QB, but with Allen’s bye next week I’ve been scrambling for a QB next week since Russell Wilson has been atrocious. Just dropped Wilson for Tua and feel pretty good about it.
I have Josh Allen so I’m pretty set at QB, but with Allen’s bye next week I’ve been scrambling for a QB next week since Russell Wilson has been atrocious. Just dropped Wilson for Tua and feel pretty good about it.
Down Under
Footballguy
I have Allen with Tua as a backup also. I have been thinking I would have to drop him and pick up someone else for week 7, but I will wait until next week. I am not too optimistic.
Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
Remember when Jahved Best was at the end of his career and you were just on the edge of your seat with every play (and not in a good way)? Just waiting for a concussion and it really never took long for it to happen. If Skylar doesn't take this job and run with it, I fear that's how we'll all be watching Tua on the field unless he could somehow stay healthy for a couple years in a row.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
He's Back!
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
Confidence level with TUA as your QB to start this week - 7.
I'm probably a 7 with hope and a prayer for health.
I'm probably a 7 with hope and a prayer for health.
Tua didn't have a good game after a hot start. He was Brees in Q1, and Dalton in Q2-4. That's why some of us think Skylar Thompson will get a chance again to show what he can do in 2023, or sooner.
>>Tua Tagovailoa was graded 55.0 by @PFF which is 19th out of 26 QBs who have played this week, with MNF to go.<<
>>Tua Tagovailoa was graded 55.0 by @PFF which is 19th out of 26 QBs who have played this week, with MNF to go.<<
Todem
Footballguy
I was at the game last night. He had an outstanding first quarter…..then nada.
Several bad reads….like wow. Went with read one way too many times. Had second the third read guys wide open several times and simply refused to unlock with read one.
Accuracy was off which is a big strength for him.
I do expect a much better game in Week 8 at Detroit.
Several bad reads….like wow. Went with read one way too many times. Had second the third read guys wide open several times and simply refused to unlock with read one.
Accuracy was off which is a big strength for him.
I do expect a much better game in Week 8 at Detroit.
The Frankman
Footballguy
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Dolphin Nation
@Dolphin_Nation
Tua this season:
1st in TD% (6.9%)
1st in Yards/Attempt (9.2)
1st in Adjusted Yards/Attempt (9.9)
1st in QB Rating (115.9)
1st in QBR (79.9)
1st in Net Yards/Attempt (8.54)
1st in Adj Net Yards/Attempt (9.28)
@Dolphin_Nation
Tua this season:
1st in TD% (6.9%)
1st in Yards/Attempt (9.2)
1st in Adjusted Yards/Attempt (9.9)
1st in QB Rating (115.9)
1st in QBR (79.9)
1st in Net Yards/Attempt (8.54)
1st in Adj Net Yards/Attempt (9.28)
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
The Tua Debate is Over!
SwampDawg
Footballguy
If MoP the once leader of the get rid of Tua brigade so proclaims it then it is truth!!
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I can explain why he is having such success. I have never seen a QB get the luxury of having nobody in front of him practically when he is stepping up into the pocket to throw IN BETWEEN the NUMBERS
-And this needs to also be said, the guy is throwing darts DOWN THE FIELD, this ain't dink n dunk! The throws he is making are not normal and perhaps that is the coaching but he is going after targets 10-15-20 yds down the field. Anyone that thinks Tua is dumping it off and Hill and Waddle are running to the house, sorely mistaken how this offense is operating.
I am leaving bread crumbs and some folks can read between the lines. I don't know how often he will be throwing up in the pocket with nobody in his face but the game plan is to have him throwing thru what you might call the A-Gaps in the OL, straight ahead and down the field.
Why? I asked myself this and the way I understand it is when you have Hill and Waddle lined up outside, DBs have to get outside the numbers and it clears a lot of space. The funny part is Hill and Waddle end up going thru the middle of the field anyways after they streak up the field 10-15 yds and after 5 yds they can run totally unimpeded to wherever their approximate spot needs to be. Also, Tyreek Hill is killing teams on under thrown balls and drawing huge DPI flags, those don't show up in his stat sheet or Tua's I might add.
Marino in '84 was surreal
Tua in '22 feels new and it's exciting. He was never this good under Flores
Duper and Clayton? We got Hill and Waddle now
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TripleThreat
Footballguy
film breakdown snippit by Emmanuel Acho
https://twitter.com/EmmanuelAcho/status/1590009936301666306?s=20&t=_IXFqJXj54v0XSpvpQrHsg
@EmmanuelAcho
Tua’s receivers aren’t just running wide open, the film shows he’s throwing them open. My goodness #FinsUp
https://twitter.com/EmmanuelAcho/status/1590009936301666306?s=20&t=_IXFqJXj54v0XSpvpQrHsg
@EmmanuelAcho
Tua’s receivers aren’t just running wide open, the film shows he’s throwing them open. My goodness #FinsUp
TripleThreat
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