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QB Will Levis, TEN (1 Viewer)
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Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
I obviously don't know about his football IQ, but I love his tools and mentality. Can't wait to see him in the NFL.
Ben & Jerry's
Footballguy
As s Colts fan, I'm warming up to the idea of him being the guy.
The thing with Levis is his inaccuracy is almost entirely about poor mechanics, which is often a coachable issue. Sure, it doesn't always take, but it's a lot easier to fix than a weak arm, or a lack of mobility.
He's got a rocket arm (best in this class in my opinion), he's got good mobility, and he also seems to be mentally tough. He's just got to iron out that accuracy, but if he does, I think his ceiling is higher than Stroud's, even if he's clearly not as good right now.
Personally, I have it:
Young
(dropoff)
Levis/Stroud/Richardson
(dropoff)
McKee, who I think is extremely underrated.
(dropoff)
Hooker, who I think is extremely overrated.
Then I'm not confident anyone else in the class is long for the NFL.
He's got a rocket arm (best in this class in my opinion), he's got good mobility, and he also seems to be mentally tough. He's just got to iron out that accuracy, but if he does, I think his ceiling is higher than Stroud's, even if he's clearly not as good right now.
Personally, I have it:
Young
(dropoff)
Levis/Stroud/Richardson
(dropoff)
McKee, who I think is extremely underrated.
(dropoff)
Hooker, who I think is extremely overrated.
Then I'm not confident anyone else in the class is long for the NFL.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I tried to tell you guys he has serious problems and I‘ve been a UK fan my entire life. So there is no homerism with me.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
All the other guys already have hot dates and you just want to go to the prom.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
When you're not looking he will slip mayonnaise in your coffee.
Birdie048
Footballguy
-OZ-
Footballguy
I’ve been hearing scuttle that Levis will be available at 11, and the Titans will have a hard choice. I’d pass on him really. Bucs or jets if they can get away from Rodgers might be good.
massraider
Footballguy
Trent Dilfer admitted to doing this to the Colts.
massraider
Footballguy
I was about to say that he’s worth the pick there, but it’s not just value. Everyone who brings him on knows they might not survive if he doesn’t work out.
if you take a QB in the 3rd or even the 2nd, you can spin it as, he was value, we will see if he works out. In the first round, you are betting your employment.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Right. Neither Ran or Mike have any reason to be concerned yet. But is Ran willing to take that bet in his first draft? He could be. His old franchise certainly survived their 1st round QB “mistake”
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Well, wasn’t he a crappy QB that lucked into playing with a great defense?
massraider
Footballguy
That story doesn't make the Colts look bad, it makes Dilfer look bad.
By the way, I was at the Marriott Marquis that day, when Kiper and Tobin exchanged haymakers. Looking back on how Dilfer sabotaged his relationship with the Colts, it really adds a big piece of context. At the time, it was everyone's favorite draft geek drawing blood, and Tobin had a tough time of it. He got done wrong that day.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Who in the hell is Mel Kiper?
massraider
Footballguy
Mel Kiper And The Crazy Feud That Changed the TV Draft Forever | NFL 1994 Draft Story
During the 1994 NFL Draft Indianapolis Colts GM, Bill Tobin, passed on Trent Dilfer to the dismay of Mel Kiper Jr. From there one of the most memorable feuds...
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The audio doesn't do justice to the way the crowd reacted to Tobin and then Mel. Theismann and Berman were looking at the crowd like holy smokes
-OZ-
Footballguy
The colts sure have come a long way from top QBs not wanting to play for them.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
The only top QB to my knowledge that didn’t want to play for them was Elway. Differ hardly qualifies as a top QB.
massraider
Footballguy
Elway to Marino 30 for 30 made Elway look exactly like the entitled little DBag he was
JohnnyU
Footballguy
The Colts should have called his bluff. He wasn’t going to play baseball, but he used that and the Colts blinked.
massraider
Footballguy
Ernie Acorsi did. Bob Irsay didn't have his back.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I like Acorsi. You should watch the ESPN documentary of the 1970 Colts. Acorsi is in it.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Leaving college, Dilfer was considered a top prospect. But hey, at least you got Trev Alberts at the 5 instead.
and Marshall Faulk at the 2.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
My Dad called him, "Doofer"
Bucs' fans loathed that clown.
Bucs' fans loathed that clown.
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
Hate Elway more than any other athlete.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Two wrongs (Dilfer or Alberts) don't make a right.Leaving college, Dilfer was considered a top prospect. But hey, at least you got Trev Alberts at the 5 instead.
gump
Footballguy
Twice with 2 of the Ds on the short list of best in NFL history…failed with the 1st but thru that experience learned how to impact results as little as possible with the 2nd.
massraider
Footballguy
Dilfer is definitely proof that good things flow to the undeserving.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
It not like NFL teams are not judging players on how they look in their underwear. Exhibit A: https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/20...f-tom-brady-shirtless-at-the-2000-nfl-combine. Levis should be proud of his accomplishment especially if this transformation was done naturally.
-OZ-
Footballguy
There are Plenty of legitimate concerns with Levis. Narcissism is low on the list.
I don’t want him in Tennessee but there’s fair chance that’s the destination.
rockaction
Footballguy
Dilfer suffered the death of a child, didn't he? That's quite an awful thing to have happen and probably trumps any of the professional luck he might have had.
rockaction
Footballguy
Anyway, the Levis story is a strange one. Maybe stay away. Maybe the arm is too tantalizing to do that. Should be a ride, whatever happens.
-OZ-
Footballguy
I’m sure it’s selective memory but it seems every time there’s red flags and “But that arm strength!!!” It’s a bust. I know Allen didn’t have awesome stats but I don’t remember him having the same issues as Levis or AR.
massraider
Footballguy
Geez guy.
This is why you’re not invited to more dinner parties.
rockaction
Footballguy
You know, I was thinking as I was typing that I was disrupting a good old-fashioned hanging out (even if the hanging out had the commonality of an object of scorn) and that I would be a wet blanket for typing what I did, so your dinner party concern was pre-acknowledged. I just couldn't let it go. But the first step is being cognizant of it, so I've got that going for me...
-OZ-
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Yeah, that was silly on Mort’s part. Completely uncall for.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Not sure about QBs going 1-2-3-4.
I expect William Anderson to go either 2 or 3 but 4 QBs 'could' go in the top-10 picks.
Sigmund Bloom
@SigmundBloom
QB 1-2-3-4 to start the draft is alive
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Albert Breer@AlbertBreer
The Colts' private workout of Kentucky QB Will Levis took place this AM.
Indy brought a convoy to Lexington for it—GM Chris Ballard, HC Shane Steichen, OC Jim Bob Cooter, QBs coach Cam Turner, ***'t GM Ed Dodds and college director Matt Terpening were all there, per sources.
I expect William Anderson to go either 2 or 3 but 4 QBs 'could' go in the top-10 picks.
Sigmund Bloom
@SigmundBloom
QB 1-2-3-4 to start the draft is alive
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Albert Breer@AlbertBreer
The Colts' private workout of Kentucky QB Will Levis took place this AM.
Indy brought a convoy to Lexington for it—GM Chris Ballard, HC Shane Steichen, OC Jim Bob Cooter, QBs coach Cam Turner, ***'t GM Ed Dodds and college director Matt Terpening were all there, per sources.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
LOL at the language filter stopping the abbreviation for assistant.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Think about the children!!
