QB Zach Wilson, MIA (1 Viewer)

[Bracie Smathers]

He is in the wrong profession if the part in bold needs to happen before he is successful.

Sig goes on to imply the NY media logarithmically increases expectations for rookie QBs with the Jets.
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Sigmund Bloom@SigmundBloom

Replying to
@ReaperJet
yeah, NY media doesn't help. I think it will take a reboot on a second team for him to have a chance Douglas needs to have a list of teams that had a first round grade on Wilson...
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We've seen this before.
The ghost of Joe Namath casts a long shadow IMHO. The NY media excels at creating 'stars' and attempts to do that with every highly selected Jet QB.
To your point, every highly picked QB, no matter where they play goes through the same thing, but NY is the media capital of the world so there is a lot more power behind their poison pens. They have power to rapidly create media darlings and can destroy them even quicker.
The kid has legit arm talent.
It takes time to flesh out that sort of talent.
Will he have enough time to develop in that market?

 

[Boston]

He is in the wrong profession if the part in bold needs to happen before he is successful.

Sig goes on to imply the NY media logarithmically increases expectations for rookie QBs with the Jets.
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Sigmund Bloom@SigmundBloom

Replying to
@ReaperJet
yeah, NY media doesn't help. I think it will take a reboot on a second team for him to have a chance Douglas needs to have a list of teams that had a first round grade on Wilson...
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We've seen this before.
The ghost of Joe Namath casts a long shadow IMHO. The NY media excels at creating 'stars' and attempts to do that with every highly selected Jet QB.
To your point, every highly picked QB, no matter where they play goes through the same thing, but NY is the media capital of the world so there is a lot more power behind their poison pens. They have power to rapidly create media darlings and can destroy them even quicker.
The kid has legit arm talent.
It takes time to flesh out that sort of talent.
Will he have enough time to develop in that market?

Big picture, I don't disagree with the NYC market thing for many athletes...I see stuff like this in Boston all the time where a player or coach just gets swallowed up...if the kid had a good head on his shoulders and was simply in over his head, I could buy into it...but he plays the most visible position in the NFL (i.e. he will have pressure in any market) that demands leadership and smart decision-making...I just don't see those traits in him...he can go somewhere else but unless there is some serious maturity growth along with some legit upgrades to his mechanics, I am very skeptical he can be a productive NFL starter...he could end up like a Fitz or a Bridgewater where he will get some chances and maybe show some glimmers, but teams will eventually realize he is not the answer.

 

[Kiddnets]

The instant coffee quote from Saleh is pretty good - glad to see him protecting ZW. Its not an unfair quote - sometimes it take young QBs a while for things to come together. You have players like A-Rod who sat a few years...Alex Smith took a while, Pennington sat for 2 entire seasons...Geno took almost a decade lol - problem is that it is an instant coffee league now - the Jets team is ready to win now....do they have time to sit and possibly waste another season to develop ZW in the NY market? And will more learning/patience even matter or is ZW who he is.......

monster cap hit next year so I dont see him being dealt. With Jimmy G getting hurt again early I can see his price being low enough to come into compete with ZW and White -

 

[Faust]

Zach Wilson will start in Week 16 against the Jaguars.​

Wilson played well in Week 15 against Detroit, one of the league's worst coverage units. Subbing in for starter Mike White, Wilson completed 18 of his 35 throws for 317 yards, two touchdowns, and one pick. His mind-numbing inaccuracy on routine passes continued, making him a bad bet to hang on to the starter's gig when White (ribs) is ready to return.
RELATED:

• Mike White

SOURCE: New York Jets on Twitter
Dec 20, 2022, 11:17 AM ET

 

[Faust]

QB ZACH WILSON STILL HAS WORK TO DO TO WIN OVER JETS

 

[Faust]

Zach Wilson completed 9-of-18 passes for 92 yards, zero touchdowns and an interception before being benched in the Jets' 19-3, Week 16 loss to the Jaguars.​

In a stunning new low, Wilson was yanked for gadget quarterback Chris Streveler in the waning moments of the third quarter. The Jets' No. 4 quarterback then proceeded to generate more first downs (four) on his first possession than Wilson did in seven drives (three). The benching was richly deserved. Once again entering the game as the least accurate quarterback in the NFL, Wilson seemed to have no idea where the ball was going in rainy, windy conditions. His "deep balls" were Taysom Hill-esque. Jets fans could not stop booing, and coach Robert Saleh frankly waited 3-4 drives too long to make the switch. It's surprising it was to Streveler instead of Joe Flacco, but that's desperation for you. Absolutely cooked until, at the bare minimum, someone can come in and fix his mechanics, Wilson has undoubtedly made his final start of the year. It will be Mike White (ribs) against the Seahawks if he's healthy for Week 17, and some combination of Streveler and Flacco if he's not. It's looking less and less likely Wilson is back as Jets starter in 2023.
Dec 22, 2022, 11:08 PM ET

 

[Dizzy]

Potential landing spots for Zach Wilson in 2023? He basically got benched for a practice squad gadget guy tonight. No coming back from that.

 

[Faust]

Warren Sharp @SharpFootball
Zach Wilson completion % by year:

2021: 55.5% - dead last in NFL
2022: 54.9% - dead last in NFL

absolutely horrendous

https://twitter.com/sharpfootball/status/1606116900475478016?s=21

 

[Faust]

Jason Moore @jasonffl
Take it easy on Zach Wilson. The weather is terrible and also he sucks really bad.

https://twitter.com/jasonffl/status/1606116574493954048?s=21

 

[rockaction]

Either the TNF guys are going for ratings or Zach Wilson is really a bad teammate thus far into his career. They were ripping him up and down about his attitude. I wonder what they know that we don't. Because if that is unfounded, then I've just lost a ton of respect for those guys. You don't speculate about stuff like that -- you'd better know for damn sure that's what's going on.

If so, that's really bad and a bad look for Z. Wilson. It does not portend well for his career in the NFL, which is hanging by a string right now.

 

[Dizzy]

Either the TNF guys are going for ratings or Zach Wilson is really a bad teammate thus far into his career. They were ripping him up and down about his attitude. I wonder what they know that we don't. Because if that is unfounded, then I've just lost a ton of respect for those guys. You don't speculate about stuff like that -- you'd better know for damn sure that's what's going on.

If so, that's really bad and a bad look for Z. Wilson. It does not portend well for his career in the NFL, which is hanging by a string right now.

Dude looked completely lost tonight. At least last week it looked like he was playing freely - albeit, still with some mistakes. Tonight, he looked like a QB that had never opened the playbook.

 

[rockaction]

Dude looked completely lost tonight.

I agree. I'm just talking about the aspersions cast upon his attitude and the judgment (they said so quite directly) that he's a bad teammate. I mean, the postgame guys all came out and said it. I hope for their sake and for the kid's sake that they're right and just aren't pulling any punches when it comes to that assessment. Because if they're wrong about him being a bad teammate and having a poor attitude and they run with that as the main topic of their postgame show, I won't really ever take any of them seriously again.

I was disposed not to like the Thursday crew. They seem to whine a lot. But this sort of either is "okay, I guess I should listen to these guys" or "they're *** clowns."

 

[King of the Jungle]

This guy is probably in the top 1000 quarterbacks in the world. A lot of us here cannot say that. Joking aside, good for the Jets for not allowing the guy to drag the rest of their franchise down. Takes guts to admit when you are wrong at this level, and I think this staff has guts and I would not be surprised is Wilson was inactive for the remainder of the year.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Dude looked completely lost tonight.

I agree. I'm just talking about the aspersions cast upon his attitude and the judgment (they said so quite directly) that he's a bad teammate. I mean, the postgame guys all came out and said it. I hope for their sake and for the kid's sake that they're right and just aren't pulling any punches when it comes to that assessment. Because if they're wrong about him being a bad teammate and having a poor attitude and they run with that as the main topic of their postgame show, I won't really ever take any of them seriously again.

I was disposed not to like the Thursday crew. They seem to whine a lot. But this sort of either is "okay, I guess I should listen to these guys" or "they're *** clowns."

We’ve already seen at least some of that with his refusal to take any ownership for the loss against the Pats.

Don’t the broadcasters usually have a chance to talk with the players a day or 2 before the game for national broadcasts? I imagine, especially the former NFL guys, are actually hearing stuff from his teammates off the record. If not, then yeah, shame on them.

But, IMO, it would also be a bad look if everyone around the league knew that he was a terrible teammate and it never got mentioned.

 

[Faust]

What will the Jets do with Zach Wilson?

Jets Must Move on from Zach Wilson in Offseason as QB Implodes in TNF Loss to Jaguars

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

This was not the redemption arc game Wilson needed, to say the least,

Man….1.02 draft capital. Jets need to try to get this kid developed.

 

[spurs44]

Dude looked completely lost tonight.

I agree. I'm just talking about the aspersions cast upon his attitude and the judgment (they said so quite directly) that he's a bad teammate. I mean, the postgame guys all came out and said it. I hope for their sake and for the kid's sake that they're right and just aren't pulling any punches when it comes to that assessment. Because if they're wrong about him being a bad teammate and having a poor attitude and they run with that as the main topic of their postgame show, I won't really ever take any of them seriously again.

I was disposed not to like the Thursday crew. They seem to whine a lot. But this sort of either is "okay, I guess I should listen to these guys" or "they're *** clowns."

We’ve already seen at least some of that with his refusal to take any ownership for the loss against the Pats.

Don’t the broadcasters usually have a chance to talk with the players a day or 2 before the game for national broadcasts? I imagine, especially the former NFL guys, are actually hearing stuff from his teammates off the record. If not, then yeah, shame on them.

But, IMO, it would also be a bad look if everyone around the league knew that he was a terrible teammate and it never got mentioned.

How about Lamer going to the Jets? Wilson will be lucky to be a prenelial career back up at this point.

 

[zamboni]

This was not the redemption arc game Wilson needed, to say the least,

Man….1.02 draft capital. Jets need to try to get this kid developed.

He absolutely needs to developed, but it can’t/won’t happen in NY. There just isn’t enough leash in the world for the fans/media to give him slack to get there.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

This was not the redemption arc game Wilson needed, to say the least,

Man….1.02 draft capital. Jets need to try to get this kid developed.

He absolutely needs to developed, but it can’t/won’t happen in NY. There just isn’t enough leash in the world for the fans/media to give him slack to get there.

Yeah but who’s gonna pay for what the Jets just “showcased”?

Can he be a QB2, behind White?

Or will be be delegated go the practice squad while the Jets pursue some other QB in FA or draft?

Gonna be interesting to see.

 

[Faust]

Zach Wilson: I’ve got to look myself in the mirror, we didn’t do anything on offense

 

[Faust]

MCKENNA: THE JETS CAN END THE ZACH WILSON ERA. IT'S LONG PAST TIME TO MOVE ON

 

[zamboni]

This was not the redemption arc game Wilson needed, to say the least,

Man….1.02 draft capital. Jets need to try to get this kid developed.

He absolutely needs to developed, but it can’t/won’t happen in NY. There just isn’t enough leash in the world for the fans/media to give him slack to get there.

Yeah but who’s gonna pay for what the Jets just “showcased”?

Can he be a QB2, behind White?

Or will be be delegated go the practice squad while the Jets pursue some other QB in FA or draft?

Gonna be interesting to see.

It’s certainly possible he could be kept around as a backup, but it depends whether Saleh thinks it may be too dysfunctional/too much of a distraction to have him around. Plus you want your backup to be able to step in if needed, so one could argue why bother if there is no confidence there (as is currently the situation). There will be a lot of soul searching going on all around the team in the offseason.

 

[Faust]

Chris Emma @CEmma670

The Jets looked past so many clear and promising qualities in Justin Fields and missed the flaws of Zach Wilson. There are lessons to be learned in how quarterbacks are evaluated in the draft. Meanwhile, Chicago might have an ascending star in Fields.

https://twitter.com/cemma670/status/1606130787191033856?s=21

 

[Faust]

Jets coach Robert Saleh did not answer reporters when asked if Zach Wilson would start in the event Mike White (ribs) can't play in Week 17.​

Meanwhile, Jets OC Mike LaFleur told reporters that he did not want to comment when asked why the offense has been working better with non-Wilson quarterbacks. The Jets have cocooned around Wilson after Thursday night's disaster, but it's very clear that they don't trust him to start games at this point. He's on shaky ground in New York and is almost certain to be the subject of countless "change of scenery" thoughts this offseason, if not an actual move.
SOURCE: Zack Rosenblatt on Twitter
Dec 23, 2022, 1:13 PM ET

 

[JohnnyU]

Jets coach Robert Saleh did not answer reporters when asked if Zach Wilson would start in the event Mike White (ribs) can't play in Week 17.​

Meanwhile, Jets OC Mike LaFleur told reporters that he did not want to comment when asked why the offense has been working better with non-Wilson quarterbacks. The Jets have cocooned around Wilson after Thursday night's disaster, but it's very clear that they don't trust him to start games at this point. He's on shaky ground in New York and is almost certain to be the subject of countless "change of scenery" thoughts this offseason, if not an actual move.
SOURCE: Zack Rosenblatt on Twitter
Dec 23, 2022, 1:13 PM ET

Kind of like getting married and discovering your new wife has more baggage than you're willing to deal with and now all you want is out.

 

[Faust]

Robert Saleh: We’re not going to quit on Zach Wilson

 

[Team Smokin']

Robert Saleh: We’re not going to quit on Zach Wilson

He had to say that now until upper brass can figure this dismal failure out.

 

[King of the Jungle]

The kid looked like a ghost at his after game presser. Needs to pickup a David Goggins book and get to work. Major uphill battle for him to see the field again.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

He is in the wrong profession if the part in bold needs to happen before he is successful.

Sig goes on to imply the NY media logarithmically increases expectations for rookie QBs with the Jets.
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Sigmund Bloom@SigmundBloom

Replying to
@ReaperJet
yeah, NY media doesn't help. I think it will take a reboot on a second team for him to have a chance Douglas needs to have a list of teams that had a first round grade on Wilson...
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We've seen this before.
The ghost of Joe Namath casts a long shadow IMHO. The NY media excels at creating 'stars' and attempts to do that with every highly selected Jet QB.
To your point, every highly picked QB, no matter where they play goes through the same thing, but NY is the media capital of the world so there is a lot more power behind their poison pens. They have power to rapidly create media darlings and can destroy them even quicker.
The kid has legit arm talent.
It takes time to flesh out that sort of talent.
Will he have enough time to develop in that market?

Big picture, I don't disagree with the NYC market thing for many athletes...I see stuff like this in Boston all the time where a player or coach just gets swallowed up...if the kid had a good head on his shoulders and was simply in over his head, I could buy into it...but he plays the most visible position in the NFL (i.e. he will have pressure in any market) that demands leadership and smart decision-making...I just don't see those traits in him...he can go somewhere else but unless there is some serious maturity growth along with some legit upgrades to his mechanics, I am very skeptical he can be a productive NFL starter...he could end up like a Fitz or a Bridgewater where he will get some chances and maybe show some glimmers, but teams will eventually realize he is not the answer.

In the past you could have fairly placed at least some blame on the front office and coaching staffs for ruining* Sanchez or Darnold, but I can’t buy that argument (and I know you’re not making it) with Wilson.

All it takes to show that he’s been put in a position to succeed is to look at what washed up Joe Flacco, journeyman man Josh Johnson and mediocre Mike White have done with the system and talent there. Wilson has failed them and if it’s mental, hopefully he thrives somewhere else but when you get benched for a 4th string QB from the CFL who hasn’t even really practiced with the team since training camp and he outplays you - you’re done with that team.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

It’s certainly possible he could be kept around as a backup

I don’t like to speak in absolutes about football but I don’t see much of a chance he’s not gone one way or the other.

 

[Boston]

He is in the wrong profession if the part in bold needs to happen before he is successful.

Sig goes on to imply the NY media logarithmically increases expectations for rookie QBs with the Jets.
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Sigmund Bloom@SigmundBloom

Replying to
@ReaperJet
yeah, NY media doesn't help. I think it will take a reboot on a second team for him to have a chance Douglas needs to have a list of teams that had a first round grade on Wilson...
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We've seen this before.
The ghost of Joe Namath casts a long shadow IMHO. The NY media excels at creating 'stars' and attempts to do that with every highly selected Jet QB.
To your point, every highly picked QB, no matter where they play goes through the same thing, but NY is the media capital of the world so there is a lot more power behind their poison pens. They have power to rapidly create media darlings and can destroy them even quicker.
The kid has legit arm talent.
It takes time to flesh out that sort of talent.
Will he have enough time to develop in that market?

Big picture, I don't disagree with the NYC market thing for many athletes...I see stuff like this in Boston all the time where a player or coach just gets swallowed up...if the kid had a good head on his shoulders and was simply in over his head, I could buy into it...but he plays the most visible position in the NFL (i.e. he will have pressure in any market) that demands leadership and smart decision-making...I just don't see those traits in him...he can go somewhere else but unless there is some serious maturity growth along with some legit upgrades to his mechanics, I am very skeptical he can be a productive NFL starter...he could end up like a Fitz or a Bridgewater where he will get some chances and maybe show some glimmers, but teams will eventually realize he is not the answer.

In the past you could have fairly placed at least some blame on the front office and coaching staffs for ruining* Sanchez or Darnold, but I can’t buy that argument (and I know you’re not making it) with Wilson.

All it takes to show that he’s been put in a position to succeed is to look at what washed up Joe Flacco, journeyman man Josh Johnson and mediocre Mike White have done with the system and talent there. Wilson has failed them and if it’s mental, hopefully he thrives somewhere else but when you get benched for a 4th string QB from the CFL who hasn’t even really practiced with the team since training camp and he outplays you - you’re done with that team.

Agreed...for a kid like Wilson NYC/Boston/Philly is a worst-case scenario for him to go but I don't think it will matter where he ends up because it goes deeper than a big v. small market thing.

 

[General Malaise]

Don't like 50% or more of the QBs taken in the 1st round flame out? It happens all the time. Wilson had one good college season against powder puff competition. This is just who he is. Cut bait and move on.

 

[SoBeDad]

If the Josh Rosen trade to MIA is the comp, note that Miami traded a late 2nd rounder, pick 62, and a 5th, to get Rosen. At the time, many local pundits were saying that Miami was the only bidder, so a late 2nd was too much. Others were saying it was a cheap price to pay for what at a minimum would be a long-term cheap backup QB. When Rosen couldn't even beat out Tua, Fitz, and some forgettable 3rd string QB, see what was written by Cameron Wolfe below. BTW, Zach has shown more than Rosen.

>>For Rosen, the question has not been talent. Flores said Rosen had the best arm of all the quarterbacks in camp, but Rosen fell behind when it came to the processing part of football -- identifying defenses pre-snap, being able to predict changing coverages and linebackers shifting, and ultimately being able to let the ball fly accurately and on time. Those are all skills Rosen has spent time working on this offseason in Miami.<<

Dolphins release Rosen after failing to trade QB

Miami has decided to release quarterback Josh Rosen instead of working out a potential trade.

www.espn.com

 

[General Malaise]

I think the Zach Wilson/Josh Rosen comps are decent. Problem is the Jets have provided the NFL with 2 seasons of reasons not to offer anything more than a 6 for Wilson.

Rosen might be the least liked NFL player by coaches and teammates in the history of the sport. Just a gargantuan doooosh cannon.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

pick. I think ZW is who he is at this point.

I think that’s a preposterous statement about a 23 year old. Especially since Wilson showed plenty of touch in college.

There was a reason he was selected 2nd overall.

Y’all acting like the Jets threw a dart at a board and didn’t watch a single frame of film on the dude before taking him that high.

I don’t even see how someone who’s had that little opportunity could be labeled a bust at this point.

The Jets, by most accounts, should not have been competing for a playoff spot this year. It is seemingly only in that context that Wilson is the target of so much vitriol.

It’s a lot of pressure to put on a young man who’s had little time to develop at the pro level.

I’m just saying - perspective helps here. I’d say it’s too early to know what Wilson is, and that definitive statements like this aren’t coming from a standpoint of measured analysis, but rather because the Jets are further ahead in their overall development & Wilson catches the brunt of the blame for not being there yet.

There’s a difference between “not being there yet” and “appearing to have no idea how to play football.”

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Lotta guys suddenly Jets and Zach Wilson experts around here.

Bad quarterback play is universal.

I grew up in the dark days of the '70s and '80s in Wisconsin. We know what that looks like.

Lynn Dickey?

David Whitehurst. Rich Campbell. Randy Wright…..

 

[zed2283]

Maybe someone like Peyton or Eli will work with him in the offseason.

 

[SoBeDad]

Don't like 50% or more of the QBs taken in the 1st round flame out? It happens all the time. Wilson had one good college season against powder puff competition. This is just who he is. Cut bait and move on.

Josh Allen and Carson Wentz have opened the door for guys that haven't faced NFL level CBs.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

pick. I think ZW is who he is at this point.

I think that’s a preposterous statement about a 23 year old. Especially since Wilson showed plenty of touch in college.

There was a reason he was selected 2nd overall.

Y’all acting like the Jets threw a dart at a board and didn’t watch a single frame of film on the dude before taking him that high.

I don’t even see how someone who’s had that little opportunity could be labeled a bust at this point.

The Jets, by most accounts, should not have been competing for a playoff spot this year. It is seemingly only in that context that Wilson is the target of so much vitriol.

It’s a lot of pressure to put on a young man who’s had little time to develop at the pro level.

I’m just saying - perspective helps here. I’d say it’s too early to know what Wilson is, and that definitive statements like this aren’t coming from a standpoint of measured analysis, but rather because the Jets are further ahead in their overall development & Wilson catches the brunt of the blame for not being there yet.

There’s a difference between “not being there yet” and “appearing to have no idea how to play football.”

I saw quite a bit last year that looked like he has an idea of how to play football.

I’m reasonably certain he has fundamental knowledge - they said it best on the broadcast…the game is moving way too fast for him right now, and he’s got no confidence in his arm or decision making.

Those are fixable.

Again - the kid is 23. Some of the bashing is over the top.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Maybe someone like Peyton or Eli will work with him in the offseason.

I could think of nothing better for him.

 

[smcindoe]

Maybe someone like Peyton or Eli will work with him in the offseason.

Smart. Get him ready for that TV career.

 

[General Malaise]

Don't like 50% or more of the QBs taken in the 1st round flame out? It happens all the time. Wilson had one good college season against powder puff competition. This is just who he is. Cut bait and move on.

Josh Allen and Carson Wentz have opened the door for guys that haven't faced NFL level CBs.

Whoa, hold up - those two guys are MUCH bigger and much stronger than Wilson. Zach is maybe 6'2" and slight. Wentz and Allen are built like brick outhouses. They also had a better overall body of work in college.

 

[SoBeDad]

Whoa, hold up - those two guys are MUCH bigger and much stronger than Wilson. Zach is maybe 6'2" and slight. Wentz and Allen are built like brick outhouses. They also had a better overall body of work in college.

You have a good point. I think the comps of other 6'2" QBs like Rodgers and Favre, was the hope for the Jets and many scouts who got it wrong after looking at lots of college film.

 

[General Malaise]

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Whoa, hold up - those two guys are MUCH bigger and much stronger than Wilson. Zach is maybe 6'2" and slight. Wentz and Allen are built like brick outhouses. They also had a better overall body of work in college.

You have a good point. I think the comps of other 6'2" QBs like Rodgers and Favre, was the hope for the Jets and many scouts who got it wrong after looking at lots of college film.

Size certainly isn't everything (that's my hope at least) but it does help sustain the early growing pains in the NFL as they absorb hits. That said, Wentz will probably never be the same guy who was in the running for MVP before major injuries derailed him.

My other concern for Wilson is between the ears. I'm not sure the game is going to slow down for him and I'm also not sure he wants to put in the work. He comes across as very smug and arrogant. That's not a good combo for young QBs. Rodgers earned that luxury.

 

[Runkle]

This was not the redemption arc game Wilson needed, to say the least,

Man….1.02 draft capital. Jets need to try to get this kid developed.

Incredibly dumb of the Jets to win that game and lose the 1.01.

Jets gonna Jet tho

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Whoa, hold up - those two guys are MUCH bigger and much stronger than Wilson. Zach is maybe 6'2" and slight. Wentz and Allen are built like brick outhouses. They also had a better overall body of work in college.

You have a good point. I think the comps of other 6'2" QBs like Rodgers and Favre, was the hope for the Jets and many scouts who got it wrong after looking at lots of college film.

I wanted them to draft Fields, but once it got out it was Wilson, I let myself be convinced about his upside. He does have the physical tools but he’s not clicking on the mental side. I can’t say it’s impossible he goes somewhere else and turns it around but think he’s most likely a career backup/stop gap joining what the group of Darnold, Baker and Daniel Jones will also be going forward.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

This was not the redemption arc game Wilson needed, to say the least,

Man….1.02 draft capital. Jets need to try to get this kid developed.

Incredibly dumb of the Jets to win that game and lose the 1.01.

Jets gonna Jet tho

That’s the craziest part of the whole saga. Zach shoulda been a Jag, which would be the most Jaguars thing ever.

 

[TLEF316]

As a Jets fan, I obviously wanted Wilson to be great. But I saw a LOT of red flags in his tapes (even his highlights) and was never remotely convinced. Hate that I was right.

Dude had ALL Day to throw his junior year, playing against a lousy, COVID affected schedule. And his team was uniquely equipped to handle that year, as most of them were 24 year old LDS guys (many with wives and kids) who weren't as affected. (They didn't miss going out....didn't have the lonliness of isolation, etc. Just generally more mature)

He was a 1 year wonder against a bad schedule. (dude was incredibly mediocre the year before) I never doubted there was some arm talent there, but I thought the praise was WAY over the top from a bunch of anaylsts falling all over themselves to find "the next Mahomes". I saw a lot of 50/50 deep balls (which his teammates caught, because they were just better) and a handful of flashy sidearm throws that really just didn't impress me. And now its clear that he's just not mentally cut out for the job (even if the physical stuff was/is good enough). His processing stinks and the strain of failing in NY has sapped whatever confidence he had.

The Jets O-line situation this year (due to the injuries) and losing Hall hasn't done him any favors. But Mike White looked a million times better missing the same guys. I have faith that White can get this team in the playoff hunt next year assuming that Hall and AVT (and maybe Becton come back healthy) and they figure out a way to consistently get Eiljah Moore involved in the office.

 

[wgoldsph]

pick. I think ZW is who he is at this point.

I think that’s a preposterous statement about a 23 year old. Especially since Wilson showed plenty of touch in college.

There was a reason he was selected 2nd overall.

Y’all acting like the Jets threw a dart at a board and didn’t watch a single frame of film on the dude before taking him that high.

I don’t even see how someone who’s had that little opportunity could be labeled a bust at this point.

The Jets, by most accounts, should not have been competing for a playoff spot this year. It is seemingly only in that context that Wilson is the target of so much vitriol.

It’s a lot of pressure to put on a young man who’s had little time to develop at the pro level.

I’m just saying - perspective helps here. I’d say it’s too early to know what Wilson is, and that definitive statements like this aren’t coming from a standpoint of measured analysis, but rather because the Jets are further ahead in their overall development & Wilson catches the brunt of the blame for not being there yet.

There’s a difference between “not being there yet” and “appearing to have no idea how to play football.”

I saw quite a bit last year that looked like he has an idea of how to play football.

I’m reasonably certain he has fundamental knowledge - they said it best on the broadcast…the game is moving way too fast for him right now, and he’s got no confidence in his arm or decision making.

Those are fixable.

Again - the kid is 23. Some of the bashing is over the top.

What games last year gave you hope for Zach Wilson? Show me some highlights that weren't blown out of the water by anyone who was backing him up last year.

I just don't understand the boner over a guy who has never been good on an NFL field. It would be one thing if nobody could move this offense but literally everyone behind him, including the CFL gadget man, has been able to make the offense go. Wilson has never ever been good on the professional level.

 

[Mitchie]

Looks like it's over for Zach in NY...

Jay Glazer: Expect Jets to ‘move on’ from Zach Wilson after season

Jay Glazer thinks the Zach Wilson era is officially over with the Jets.

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