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R. Wilson Vs. C. Kaepernick (1 Viewer)

Dynasty/Keeper

  • Wison

    Votes: 175 59.5%
  • Kaepernick

    Votes: 119 40.5%

  • Total voters
    294
Wilson was 10/17 (59%) in the first half of the Atlanta game and ran twice, both times for first downs. In that first half, Lynch fumbled to end one Seattle drive in Atlanta territory, and another ended at the Atlanta 11 when Seattle RBs failed to convert 3rd & 1 and 4th & 1. Neither of those things were Wilson's fault.

You still haven't explained your comment that Wilson is a runner first. Do you have an explanation?
I didn't say he was a runner first. I said he's a runner that can pass. Anyone who is not a pocket passer first and a runner as an afterthought is not long for NFL greatness in this day and age. Kaep and RG3 are going to develop into great passers, if they aren't already. I think Wilson is going to get exposed in the next couple of years by teams that make him throw to the honey-holes. This is just a gut feeling and my opinion ... everyone has them. Everyone is hot on Lamar Miller too, but my gut says he's not going to break the top 15 for fantasy RBs this year, even though he's primed for a great year. It's just my opinion and that's what we're here to share.
I'm a big Kaep fan, but this is a bit too much Kool-Aid, and Wilson is the real deal as a passer.
Kool-Aid or Vodka?

 
Wilson was 10/17 (59%) in the first half of the Atlanta game and ran twice, both times for first downs. In that first half, Lynch fumbled to end one Seattle drive in Atlanta territory, and another ended at the Atlanta 11 when Seattle RBs failed to convert 3rd & 1 and 4th & 1. Neither of those things were Wilson's fault.

You still haven't explained your comment that Wilson is a runner first. Do you have an explanation?
I didn't say he was a runner first. I said he's a runner that can pass. Anyone who is not a pocket passer first and a runner as an afterthought is not long for NFL greatness in this day and age. Kaep and RG3 are going to develop into great passers, if they aren't already. I think Wilson is going to get exposed in the next couple of years by teams that make him throw to the honey-holes. This is just a gut feeling and my opinion ... everyone has them. Everyone is hot on Lamar Miller too, but my gut says he's not going to break the top 15 for fantasy RBs this year, even though he's primed for a great year. It's just my opinion and that's what we're here to share.
I'm a big Kaep fan, but this is a bit too much Kool-Aid, and Wilson is the real deal as a passer.
Kool-Aid or Vodka?
If it's vodka mixed with Hawaiian Punch, more power to him. But it's a pretty myopic view of both Wilson and Kaep. Just stay away from the wheel meyer.

 
Wilson was 10/17 (59%) in the first half of the Atlanta game and ran twice, both times for first downs. In that first half, Lynch fumbled to end one Seattle drive in Atlanta territory, and another ended at the Atlanta 11 when Seattle RBs failed to convert 3rd & 1 and 4th & 1. Neither of those things were Wilson's fault.

You still haven't explained your comment that Wilson is a runner first. Do you have an explanation?
I didn't say he was a runner first. I said he's a runner that can pass. Anyone who is not a pocket passer first and a runner as an afterthought is not long for NFL greatness in this day and age. Kaep and RG3 are going to develop into great passers, if they aren't already. I think Wilson is going to get exposed in the next couple of years by teams that make him throw to the honey-holes. This is just a gut feeling and my opinion ... everyone has them. Everyone is hot on Lamar Miller too, but my gut says he's not going to break the top 15 for fantasy RBs this year, even though he's primed for a great year. It's just my opinion and that's what we're here to share.
http://www.fieldgulls.com/2013/5/6/4304096/russell-wilson-the-signature-nfl-throw

Read this and then tell me how you feel.

And also, for anyone that thinks Wilson has anything but an well above average arm, this article is for you. It basically dispels every myth I've read about Wilson.
Sure, it's a good article. I wouldn't go so far as to say "it dispels every myth...." Rather, it presents a compelling case for why Wilson is a very good passing QB. I would be interested to see a well-constructed counterpoint.

 
I honestly don't understand the voting differential so far. Basically, redraft and dynasty voting are identical.....which is odd to me. It essentially means that nobody thinks the Crabtree injury has any meaningful bearing on redraft rankings between the two.

Is there some other way to interpret the poll results so far?

 
I honestly don't understand the voting differential so far. Basically, redraft and dynasty voting are identical.....which is odd to me. It essentially means that nobody thinks the Crabtree injury has any meaningful bearing on redraft rankings between the two.

Is there some other way to interpret the poll results so far?
It could also mean people really like the future potential of the seahawks as a young up and coming team and at the same time feel Crabtrees loss hurts kaep this season.

If you had to decide today which team has a better next 5 years I'm guessing the majority pick the hawks due to their age and front office. John Schneider has been the best gm in football over the last 3 years.

 
I honestly don't understand the voting differential so far. Basically, redraft and dynasty voting are identical.....which is odd to me. It essentially means that nobody thinks the Crabtree injury has any meaningful bearing on redraft rankings between the two.

Is there some other way to interpret the poll results so far?
It could also mean people really like the future potential of the seahawks as a young up and coming team and at the same time feel Crabtrees loss hurts kaep this season.

If you had to decide today which team has a better next 5 years I'm guessing the majority pick the hawks due to their age and front office. John Schneider has been the best gm in football over the last 3 years.
:link:

 
I honestly don't understand the voting differential so far. Basically, redraft and dynasty voting are identical.....which is odd to me. It essentially means that nobody thinks the Crabtree injury has any meaningful bearing on redraft rankings between the two.

Is there some other way to interpret the poll results so far?
It could also mean people really like the future potential of the seahawks as a young up and coming team and at the same time feel Crabtrees loss hurts kaep this season.

If you had to decide today which team has a better next 5 years I'm guessing the majority pick the hawks due to their age and front office. John Schneider has been the best gm in football over the last 3 years.
I'm certainly not saying it DOESN'T mean that.....but really, there has to be some short-term differential hit that Kaep takes relative to Wilson due to the loss of Crabtree for 2013. Maybe folks are saying "Crabtree is irrelevant for dynasty, because either a) he's unlikely to come back as a top threat, or b) someone else is likely to step up and become the top receiving weapon."

Truly, I'm just trying to understand possible interpretations. Yours is one...but not the only one. (and neither is mine)

 
The future looks bright for both..........one is a more explosive athlete, which gives him a higher upside. Gimme Kaep all day.

 
Alex P Keaton said:
I honestly don't understand the voting differential so far. Basically, redraft and dynasty voting are identical.....which is odd to me. It essentially means that nobody thinks the Crabtree injury has any meaningful bearing on redraft rankings between the two.

Is there some other way to interpret the poll results so far?
I think it simply means people are voting for who they think the better player is. If they feel Wilson is better, they think they will translate to both redraft and dynasty.
 
I think from a fantasy perspective both QB's take a step back a little due to defenses figuring out better ways to slow them down, not stop them. They should both grow as NFL QB's though which in the long run will make their teams that much harder to beat. If I had to pick one as my teams next QB, I would probably take Kaep and unfortunately we get to see him first week of the season and UNFORTUNATELY for us we still have Dom Capers as DC. So expect big things from Kaep week one.

 
I think from a fantasy perspective both QB's take a step back a little due to defenses figuring out better ways to slow them down, not stop them. They should both grow as NFL QB's though which in the long run will make their teams that much harder to beat. If I had to pick one as my teams next QB, I would probably take Kaep and unfortunately we get to see him first week of the season and UNFORTUNATELY for us we still have Dom Capers as DC. So expect big things from Kaep week one.
Im willing to bet Russell Wilson puts more hours into film study and working on his craft than any QB in the NFL. Im not sure defenses are going to be able to show him things he isn't ready for.

 
Alex P Keaton said:
I honestly don't understand the voting differential so far. Basically, redraft and dynasty voting are identical.....which is odd to me. It essentially means that nobody thinks the Crabtree injury has any meaningful bearing on redraft rankings between the two.

Is there some other way to interpret the poll results so far?
I think it simply means people are voting for who they think the better player is. If they feel Wilson is better, they think they will translate to both redraft and dynasty.
That seems stupid.

 
Alex P Keaton said:
I honestly don't understand the voting differential so far. Basically, redraft and dynasty voting are identical.....which is odd to me. It essentially means that nobody thinks the Crabtree injury has any meaningful bearing on redraft rankings between the two.

Is there some other way to interpret the poll results so far?
I think it simply means people are voting for who they think the better player is. If they feel Wilson is better, they think they will translate to both redraft and dynasty.
That seems stupid.
May, maybe not. I think with Crab being out its pretty clear the consensus is that Wilson is the better bet this year. Regardless, I like Wilson as a player more so I value him more in dynasty. To me dynasty rankings are more a "cream rises to the top" approach. So I value ability, or at least me gage of their ability, more than in redraft. Redraft is more about current situation.
 
I think from a fantasy perspective both QB's take a step back a little due to defenses figuring out better ways to slow them down, not stop them. They should both grow as NFL QB's though which in the long run will make their teams that much harder to beat. If I had to pick one as my teams next QB, I would probably take Kaep and unfortunately we get to see him first week of the season and UNFORTUNATELY for us we still have Dom Capers as DC. So expect big things from Kaep week one.
Im willing to bet Russell Wilson puts more hours into film study and working on his craft than any QB in the NFL. Im not sure defenses are going to be able to show him things he isn't ready for.
Your level of homerism is unmatched on these boards. To bet on who puts in more work without a single shread of knowledge on the actual situation and study/practice habits of every NFL QB is absurd and one of the silliest things I have read in recent memory.

 
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Your level of homerism is unmatched on these boards. To bet on who puts in more work without a single shread of knowledge on the actual situation and study/practice habits of every NFL QB is absurd and one of the silliest things I have read in recent memory.
Invest a few seconds and research it a bit and it won't seem silly to you.

 
Your level of homerism is unmatched on these boards. To bet on who puts in more work without a single shread of knowledge on the actual situation and study/practice habits of every NFL QB is absurd and one of the silliest things I have read in recent memory.
Invest a few seconds and research it a bit and it won't seem silly to you.
It will seem silly to anyone that knows anything about the NFL. I would be willing to bet that if you go to Fox, Belichick, Payton, either Harbaugh, McCarthy, Coughlin or any other non Carroll named coach they will say their QB works the hardest. There is absolutely NO WAY to prove any one player, espcially QB works harder to get better than any other QB. Your argument is silly, I understand your insane man crush on Wilson, you show it all the time, he is a very good young QB, but at least keep your arguments to something you can actually prove. I apologize to have gotten off the subject of this thread and will refrain from further posts like this.

 
i bet that every nfl quarterback puts in more film study than me which is why it is pretty stupid that i even have opinions about this junk but hey you know what brohans that is what the big kahuna from down under upstairs made the internet and message boards for so guys like me can feel ten feet tall and bullteproof and i mean to take the good lord up on his creation so take that right to the bank bromigos

 
i bet that every nfl quarterback puts in more film study than me which is why it is pretty stupid that i even have opinions about this junk but hey you know what brohans that is what the big kahuna from down under upstairs made the internet and message boards for so guys like me can feel ten feet tall and bullteproof and i mean to take the good lord up on his creation so take that right to the bank bromigos
:sadbanana:

 
Your level of homerism is unmatched on these boards. To bet on who puts in more work without a single shread of knowledge on the actual situation and study/practice habits of every NFL QB is absurd and one of the silliest things I have read in recent memory.
Invest a few seconds and research it a bit and it won't seem silly to you.
I like the Seahawks and am a big fan of Wilson, but you are taking it to a ridiculous level.

 
Your level of homerism is unmatched on these boards. To bet on who puts in more work without a single shread of knowledge on the actual situation and study/practice habits of every NFL QB is absurd and one of the silliest things I have read in recent memory.
Invest a few seconds and research it a bit and it won't seem silly to you.
I like the Seahawks and am a big fan of Wilson, but you are taking it to a ridiculous level.
No kidding. This is the same guy who said that John Schneider was THE best GM in football the last 3 years. He brings ridiculous to a whole new level.

 
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i bet that every nfl quarterback puts in more film study than me which is why it is pretty stupid that i even have opinions about this junk but hey you know what brohans that is what the big kahuna from down under upstairs made the internet and message boards for so guys like me can feel ten feet tall and bullteproof and i mean to take the good lord up on his creation so take that right to the bank bromigos
:thanks:

 
Your level of homerism is unmatched on these boards. To bet on who puts in more work without a single shread of knowledge on the actual situation and study/practice habits of every NFL QB is absurd and one of the silliest things I have read in recent memory.
Invest a few seconds and research it a bit and it won't seem silly to you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoid_personality_disorder

Jaspers, a German phenomenologist, described "self-insecure" personalities who resemble the paranoid personality. According to Jaspers, such individuals experience inner humiliation, brought about by outside experiences and their interpretations of them. They have an urge to get external confirmation to their self-deprecation and that makes them see insults in the behavior of other people. They suffer from every slight because they seek the real reason for them in themselves. This kind of insecurity leads to overcompensation: compulsive formality, strict social observances and exaggerated displays of assurance.[12]
 
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Your level of homerism is unmatched on these boards. To bet on who puts in more work without a single shread of knowledge on the actual situation and study/practice habits of every NFL QB is absurd and one of the silliest things I have read in recent memory.
Invest a few seconds and research it a bit and it won't seem silly to you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoid_personality_disorder

Jaspers, a German phenomenologist, described "self-insecure" personalities who resemble the paranoid personality. According to Jaspers, such individuals experience inner humiliation, brought about by outside experiences and their interpretations of them. They have an urge to get external confirmation to their self-deprecation and that makes them see insults in the behavior of other people. They suffer from every slight because they seek the real reason for them in themselves. This kind of insecurity leads to overcompensation: compulsive formality, strict social observances and exaggerated displays of assurance.[12]
I would think this also applies.

 
Warrior, while I must give you kudos for brilliantly derailing your own thread, in the second part of the poll, who is "Wison"?

TIA.

BTW, for those bashing I'm The Scientist for his extremist views, it might be good to keep in mind that his preference for Wilson is in the majority. Yes, he has taken it waaaaaayyy too far a few times - but some of Kaep backers have also been quite over the top as well.

 
DoubleG said:
Warrior, while I must give you kudos for brilliantly derailing your own thread, in the second part of the poll, who is "Wison"?

TIA.

BTW, for those bashing I'm The Scientist for his extremist views, it might be good to keep in mind that his preference for Wilson is in the majority. Yes, he has taken it waaaaaayyy too far a few times - but some of Kaep backers have also been quite over the top as well.
ItS throws out the easy bait that reels in trout at a hatchery. But the posters who are giving Wilson a short (no pun intended) shrift as a passer is also tossing stinky bait as well. It's too close to call as far as a huge difference between them other that the obvious physical attributes, and it really comes down to what Harbaugh and Carroll do respectively with their offenses this upcoming season. That's how close they are as far as passing.

This post has no value as far as FF, it's just my opinion being a 49er fan who has an interest on what SEA is cooking. I'm a fan of both QB's.

 
I just wanted to make something clear, I meant no disrespect or knock towards ImTheScientist, I think he is sometimes over the top with his homerism comments, but we are certainly all entitled to our own opinions. I think Rodgers is the best QB in the league right now, but I am sure Pats fans, Saints fans, Bronco fans and a few others would argue that fact. I got no issue with that, I would hope every passionate fan has some homerism to them, and the great thing is not a single person here can prove me right or wrong. They can certainly argue their case, but outside of that it is just based on our own opinions, which we are all entitled to.

 
MaxThreshold said:
msudaisy26 said:
Your level of homerism is unmatched on these boards. To bet on who puts in more work without a single shread of knowledge on the actual situation and study/practice habits of every NFL QB is absurd and one of the silliest things I have read in recent memory.
Invest a few seconds and research it a bit and it won't seem silly to you.
I like the Seahawks and am a big fan of Wilson, but you are taking it to a ridiculous level.
No kidding. This is the same guy who said that John Schneider was THE best GM in football the last 3 years. He brings ridiculous to a whole new level.
Looking at where the Hawks were 4 years ago versus the path they appear to be on now, I'm not sure the claim "brings ridiculous to a whole new level"...

 
MaxThreshold said:
msudaisy26 said:
Your level of homerism is unmatched on these boards. To bet on who puts in more work without a single shread of knowledge on the actual situation and study/practice habits of every NFL QB is absurd and one of the silliest things I have read in recent memory.
Invest a few seconds and research it a bit and it won't seem silly to you.
I like the Seahawks and am a big fan of Wilson, but you are taking it to a ridiculous level.
No kidding. This is the same guy who said that John Schneider was THE best GM in football the last 3 years. He brings ridiculous to a whole new level.
Looking at where the Hawks were 4 years ago versus the path they appear to be on now, I'm not sure the claim "brings ridiculous to a whole new level"...
Yeah, it's hard to argue against the idea that Schneider has been one of the best GMs in recent years. Not sure why that is such a crazy notion.

 
Yeah, it's hard to argue against the idea that Schneider has been one of the best GMs in recent years. Not sure why that is such a crazy not
It's not the message, it's the messanger. ITS puts himself in the middle of a lot of arguments on these boards and for that has people jump on him no matter what he writes.

 
Yeah, it's hard to argue against the idea that Schneider has been one of the best GMs in recent years. Not sure why that is such a crazy not
It's not the message, it's the messanger. ITS puts himself in the middle of a lot of arguments on these boards and for that has people jump on him no matter what he writes.
So he's the Seahawks fan version of sho nuff? Got it. ;)
From the standpoint of several people jumping on me no matter what I write...you are correct.

Everything else about ITS? Not even close.

ETA: Not that I did not bring on a bit of that myself when Favre retired as much as I argued my point (though, I was ultimately proven correct on my support of the Packers in that situation).

 
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MaxThreshold said:
msudaisy26 said:
Your level of homerism is unmatched on these boards. To bet on who puts in more work without a single shread of knowledge on the actual situation and study/practice habits of every NFL QB is absurd and one of the silliest things I have read in recent memory.
Invest a few seconds and research it a bit and it won't seem silly to you.
I like the Seahawks and am a big fan of Wilson, but you are taking it to a ridiculous level.
No kidding. This is the same guy who said that John Schneider was THE best GM in football the last 3 years. He brings ridiculous to a whole new level.
Looking at where the Hawks were 4 years ago versus the path they appear to be on now, I'm not sure the claim "brings ridiculous to a whole new level"...
Yeah, it's hard to argue against the idea that Schneider has been one of the best GMs in recent years. Not sure why that is such a crazy notion.
Not arguing that he isn't, but the quote was that he was "THE best", NOT "one of the best". There is a difference.

 
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I have no problem with the GM comments. The ridiculous part to me was saying Wilson works harder then any quarterback in the game. No on could possibly know that.

 
I believe it is well known Wilson has a very strong work ethic. I suspect it is stronger than most NFL QBs. I'm not saying I know it is stronger than Kaepernick's work ethic, but I think that reputation is what led to the statement being discussed. :shrug:

 
I believe it is well known Wilson has a very strong work ethic. I suspect it is stronger than most NFL QBs. I'm not saying I know it is stronger than Kaepernick's work ethic, but I think that reputation is what led to the statement being discussed. :shrug:
From March 12th

New Seahawks receiver Percy Harvin says that as soon as word broke that he was being traded from Minnesota to Seattle, quarterback Russell Wilson contacted him to schedule offseason workouts.

“Russell was texting me from the moment that this thing was put together, Russell was already texting me things that we’re going to do this offseason, we’re set to go to California and work already,” Harvin said at his introductory press conference in Seattle today
 
I believe it is well known Wilson has a very strong work ethic. I suspect it is stronger than most NFL QBs. I'm not saying I know it is stronger than Kaepernick's work ethic, but I think that reputation is what led to the statement being discussed. :shrug:
Kaep has been working pretty hard during this off-season too. In fact maybe too hard, since Harbaugh thought he might be getting too big and strong.

 
I believe it is well known Wilson has a very strong work ethic. I suspect it is stronger than most NFL QBs. I'm not saying I know it is stronger than Kaepernick's work ethic, but I think that reputation is what led to the statement being discussed. :shrug:
Kaep has been working pretty hard during this off-season too. In fact maybe too hard, since Harbaugh thought he might be getting too big and strong.
In other words, stop lifting weights and watch film. That's where his opportunity lies. He's a half field reader right now. To take the next step he needs to get more adept at progressing through his reads. If he does he could be deadly. I'm not sure how his work ethic in the film room is but that's the one that matters.
 
I believe it is well known Wilson has a very strong work ethic. I suspect it is stronger than most NFL QBs. I'm not saying I know it is stronger than Kaepernick's work ethic, but I think that reputation is what led to the statement being discussed. :shrug:
Kaep has been working pretty hard during this off-season too. In fact maybe too hard, since Harbaugh thought he might be getting too big and strong.
In other words, stop lifting weights and watch film. That's where his opportunity lies. He's a half field reader right now. To take the next step he needs to get more adept at progressing through his reads. If he does he could be deadly. I'm not sure how his work ethic in the film room is but that's the one that matters.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/22598793/living-with-colin-kaepernick-means-playbook-quizzes-while-you-shower

Lockette, who signed with San Francisco in September, is housemates with 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick. Kaepernick apparently has several unique ways of helping Lockette learn the team's playbook, including shower quizzes.

"We play Madden and Call of Duty. But when we aren't doing that, we pop quiz each other about the playbook," Lockette said, via the Albany (Ga.) Herald. "I might be in the shower, and he might walk by the bathroom and yell, 'Hey, what do you have on Colorado 750?' I will tell him a route, but if it's wrong, he will come in and throw something over the shower curtain."
 
According to Russell Wilson himself on the John Clayton show about a week ago, he gets to the VMAC at 6am, and doesn't leave until 7:30pm.

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=9433872

Just curious if anyone has heard of similar hours being put in by other QBs. That's almost unbelievable, that someone would be at work for so long. As someone that has followed Wilson from day 1, it's not as surprising though and it's certainly showed on the field- judging by his ridiculous 1st half/2nd half splits last year. Watching him every week, you could see Wilson literally getting better every single week. He simply doesn't make the same mistake twice.

 
According to Russell Wilson himself on the John Clayton show about a week ago, he gets to the VMAC at 6am, and doesn't leave until 7:30pm.

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=9433872

Just curious if anyone has heard of similar hours being put in by other QBs. That's almost unbelievable, that someone would be at work for so long. As someone that has followed Wilson from day 1, it's not as surprising though and it's certainly showed on the field- judging by his ridiculous 1st half/2nd half splits last year. Watching him every week, you could see Wilson literally getting better every single week. He simply doesn't make the same mistake twice.
It wouldn't shock me at all if Peyton Manning works that hard. Or Aaron Rodgers. Or any top QB (except Tom Brady, who of late seems more interested in being photographed by celebrity hounds).

BTW - lots of non athletes in demanding jobs spend at least that many hours per day at work.

 
Alex P Keaton said:
cacksman said:
According to Russell Wilson himself on the John Clayton show about a week ago, he gets to the VMAC at 6am, and doesn't leave until 7:30pm.

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=9433872

Just curious if anyone has heard of similar hours being put in by other QBs. That's almost unbelievable, that someone would be at work for so long. As someone that has followed Wilson from day 1, it's not as surprising though and it's certainly showed on the field- judging by his ridiculous 1st half/2nd half splits last year. Watching him every week, you could see Wilson literally getting better every single week. He simply doesn't make the same mistake twice.
It wouldn't shock me at all if Peyton Manning works that hard. Or Aaron Rodgers. Or any top QB (except Tom Brady, who of late seems more interested in being photographed by celebrity hounds).

BTW - lots of non athletes in demanding jobs spend at least that many hours per day at work.
:goodposting:

The fact of the matter is if you want to be a great QB, you have to put in the time. Russel Wilson appears to want to be the best, so it's no surprise that he's working long hours. However, he's not doing anything special that other great QBs haven't done.

He was very exciting to watch here when he played for Wisconsin and there is no doubt he has tremendous potential. I'm rooting for him.

 
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drummer said:
jurb26 said:
drummer said:
Just Win Baby said:
I believe it is well known Wilson has a very strong work ethic. I suspect it is stronger than most NFL QBs. I'm not saying I know it is stronger than Kaepernick's work ethic, but I think that reputation is what led to the statement being discussed. :shrug:
Kaep has been working pretty hard during this off-season too. In fact maybe too hard, since Harbaugh thought he might be getting too big and strong.
In other words, stop lifting weights and watch film. That's where his opportunity lies. He's a half field reader right now. To take the next step he needs to get more adept at progressing through his reads. If he does he could be deadly. I'm not sure how his work ethic in the film room is but that's the one that matters.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/22598793/living-with-colin-kaepernick-means-playbook-quizzes-while-you-shower

Lockette, who signed with San Francisco in September, is housemates with 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick. Kaepernick apparently has several unique ways of helping Lockette learn the team's playbook, including shower quizzes.

"We play Madden and Call of Duty. But when we aren't doing that, we pop quiz each other about the playbook," Lockette said, via the Albany (Ga.) Herald. "I might be in the shower, and he might walk by the bathroom and yell, 'Hey, what do you have on Colorado 750?' I will tell him a route, but if it's wrong, he will come in and throw something over the shower curtain."
:pickle:

Ahhh...only in San Fran... NTTAWWT.
 
Yeah, it's hard to argue against the idea that Schneider has been one of the best GMs in recent years. Not sure why that is such a crazy not
It's not the message, it's the messanger. ITS puts himself in the middle of a lot of arguments on these boards and for that has people jump on him no matter what he writes.
So he's the Seahawks fan version of sho nuff? Got it. ;)
More like, he is to the Seahawks what LHUCKS was to the Pac-10.

 
Alex P Keaton said:
cacksman said:
According to Russell Wilson himself on the John Clayton show about a week ago, he gets to the VMAC at 6am, and doesn't leave until 7:30pm.

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=9433872

Just curious if anyone has heard of similar hours being put in by other QBs. That's almost unbelievable, that someone would be at work for so long. As someone that has followed Wilson from day 1, it's not as surprising though and it's certainly showed on the field- judging by his ridiculous 1st half/2nd half splits last year. Watching him every week, you could see Wilson literally getting better every single week. He simply doesn't make the same mistake twice.
It wouldn't shock me at all if Peyton Manning works that hard. Or Aaron Rodgers. Or any top QB (except Tom Brady, who of late seems more interested in being photographed by celebrity hounds).

BTW - lots of non athletes in demanding jobs spend at least that many hours per day at work.
Based on this report, Wilson spends 13.5 hours per day at work... assuming just Monday through Friday, that is 67.5 hours per week. In the offseason, not in OTAs, training camp, etc.

I can imagine a few guys doing this regularly, like Peyton Manning. But I cannot imagine a high number of QBs doing this. I can't say whether or not Kaepernick would put in these hours, and that is what mostly bears on this thread. But this is what I was getting at when I previously posted that Wilson is known to have a strong work ethic.

 
Kaepernick and his hat flap has me questioning his maturity, plus he uses the word "swag" which again seems immature. "Swag" wtf does that mean?

 
Yeah, the hat thing didn't exactly wow me. It's silly to think that an althlete would perform better or worse because of what logo they wear. Fans need to not get their panties bunched up so easily.

But Kaep's response was pretty immature; I'd have rather him shrugged it off rather than get antagonistic about it.

As for the topic at hand, I'd give a slight nod to Wilson in Dynasty. Kaepernick wasn't wowing anyone in preseason, but he showed well when it counted.

For redraft, I think Wilson definitely gets the nod with the addition of Harvin and the loss of Crabtree on the other side. Sure, Boldin or someone might step up, but there's more uncertainty for Kaep than Wilson in 2013.

As a fan, I'd be pretty happy with either. We're splitting hairs at this point.

 
No kidding. This is the same guy who said that John Schneider was THE best GM in football the last 3 years. He brings ridiculous to a whole new level.
ITS is over the top homerism. No doubt. That said, Schneider and Carroll have killed the draft and free agency since coming to Seattle.

I don't have the numbers at hand, but I'm willing to guess that they're directly responsible for adding more pro-bowl and all pro talent to the roster in the past three years than any other coach/GM tandem in the NFL.

 

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