Ran a 10k in June (7 Viewers)

[tri-man 47]

I'll take 1/2 mile splits just for you, t-man! So, for now, I'm going to do 22 miles not this, but the following weekend.

44 splits ...awesome! I'll start working on some computer modeling programs. I've got this feeling that you'll be saving someone from a burning building at around mile 19, so we'll have to take that into account.

 

[El Floppo]

I'll take 1/2 mile splits just for you, t-man! So, for now, I'm going to do 22 miles not this, but the following weekend.

44 splits ...awesome! I'll start working on some computer modeling programs. I've got this feeling that you'll be saving someone from a burning building at around mile 19, so we'll have to take that into account.

.... but, you forgot about the kitten stuck up a tree at mile 13.

 

[tri-man 47]

I'll take 1/2 mile splits just for you, t-man! So, for now, I'm going to do 22 miles not this, but the following weekend.

44 splits ...awesome! I'll start working on some computer modeling programs. I've got this feeling that you'll be saving someone from a burning building at around mile 19, so we'll have to take that into account.

.... but, you forgot about the kitten stuck up a tree at mile 13.

If you've got time for a little pu ...to help a lovely cat in the middle of your run, I'll be very impressed.

 

[El Floppo]

I'll take 1/2 mile splits just for you, t-man! So, for now, I'm going to do 22 miles not this, but the following weekend.

44 splits ...awesome! I'll start working on some computer modeling programs. I've got this feeling that you'll be saving someone from a burning building at around mile 19, so we'll have to take that into account.

.... but, you forgot about the kitten stuck up a tree at mile 13.

If you've got time for a little pu ...to help a lovely cat in the middle of your run, I'll be very impressed.

Where there's a will, there's a way, gb. And I've got the will.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

5k this morning in 27:59.3. Best 5k I've done in a while. I'd say Mother Nature cranking the A/C down to 75 for an overnight low temp was a big help! It seems Fall has arrived in the desert.

 

[RustyFA]

El Floppo, I think I am ready. Getting sick didn't help but I think I am there. A 9 miler tommorow morning and an 8 next week so I should have plenty of rest.

I wash my shorts every time.

 

[tri-man 47]

El Floppo, I think I am ready.

Hey, what are your Chicago plans? When do you and your buddies (how many?) arrive? Have any of you been to Chicago before? You driving in, I presume?

 

[El Floppo]

35:00, W'burgh Bridge repeats ("hills") w/ all the fixed-gear, bearded 20s yo hep-cats commuting over from Brooklyn.

 

[Norman Einstein]

35:00, W'burgh Bridge repeats ("hills") w/ all the fixed-gear, bearded 20s yo hep-cats commuting over from Brooklyn.

i have no idea what this means....does it have to do with strap ons and lesbians

 

[El Floppo]

35:00, W'burgh Bridge repeats ("hills") w/ all the fixed-gear, bearded 20s yo hep-cats commuting over from Brooklyn.

i have no idea what this means....does it have to do with strap ons and lesbians

maybe.

 

[Darrinll40]

Following the advice and link, I purchased several items of running apparel from the Bill Rodgers Going out of Business sale. I got two of the shorts and two if the net-style tank tops. I ran in one set this morning and I have to admit I felt cooler than when I run in my other clothes. I put in 5.3 miles in just over 53 minutes. It was a nice easy run, just what my toe needed.

Good luck to everyone running in a race today. Right now I am planning 5K's for the next 3 weeks. Good times.

 

[Sid]

I just ran for 25 minutes.. in a row, for the first time.

I used my Ipod that I recently bought for the first time, I think it helped me for the first 50-60% of the run.

I am going to run with a bunch of military guys in a 1.5 mile "fun run" next Friday. The guys I'm running with are all people I work with, so they know I'm a recovering couch potato. We'll see how it goes..

 

[El Floppo]

I just ran for 25 minutes.. in a row, for the first time. I used my Ipod that I recently bought for the first time, I think it helped me for the first 50-60% of the run. I am going to run with a bunch of military guys in a 1.5 mile "fun run" next Friday. The guys I'm running with are all people I work with, so they know I'm a recovering couch potato. We'll see how it goes..

Amazing stuff, sid! A few weeks ago, did you even think that was possible? How did you feel during the run... and after?

 

[2Young2BBald]

Wrapped a 12-mile training run a little while ago with my wife. I ran with her to try and slow my pace and, inadvertently sped hers up. We ran the 12 in 1:57 which now makes me think a sub 2 hour half is well with in reach (I’m a month out). Used mapmyrun to stop at my folks place at the 5-mile mark to simulate water stop and took in (2) Cliff’s Shot blocks and a good amount of water. Also picked up a runner’s water bottle with Gatorade to simulate a water stop at mile 10. All went very well and I feel great. In fact, just played a little Frisbee with my son in the yard without gimping around.

Had a good training week too. Did a good 5 miler Tuesday at a 9 minute pace and busted out of bed and got a speedy 3 miler in before 7am on Thursday., did it in under 24 minutes. And, got to see the sun come up on Lake St. Clair with freighters in the backdrop (awesome morning).

Nice work Sid, looks like you are well ahead of plan!

With the discussion about shorts, gear, etc, I had forgotten to add one thing. Buy some Win detergent. It’s the stuff designed to get out the nasty running odors. My stuff, even clean gets to the point where the kids wont let me back in the house post run, this stuff helps a bunch.

One more thing, I had posted a quest a while back about “adventure” fun runs. I am doing one next weekend here in Detroit http://motorcityscramble.com/. Figure I’d ask again, has anyone done one of these? If so, is there somewhere I can look t see what the side events might be? It’ll be fun to be kicking around downtown Detroit with a number and shirt on running from place to place (like, I am assuming, Ford Filed, Comerica Park and The Joe).

Finally, man the fall weather is nice. Still warm, but much easier to run in that that high humidity.

ETA, fogot to add one more thing - put two new really good running song on the MP3 (to me) Killswitch Engage did a remake of Dio's Holy Diver & Stereoside's Sinner.

 

[bentley]

Sid.

I just got back from running 4.6 miles at Town Lake in that Austin. I love that place. Lots of hot sweaty runner girls. I need to do that more often.

 

[mr. furley]

I just ran for 25 minutes.. in a row, for the first time. I used my Ipod that I recently bought for the first time, I think it helped me for the first 50-60% of the run. I am going to run with a bunch of military guys in a 1.5 mile "fun run" next Friday. The guys I'm running with are all people I work with, so they know I'm a recovering couch potato. We'll see how it goes..

!at this point in the program i was finally happy to be past the run/walk part and just on to the running. adding a couple minutes a week is tough but it does get easier once you are on to the "running only" portion of the training.that first 5K is near!

 

[Sid]

I just ran for 25 minutes.. in a row, for the first time. I used my Ipod that I recently bought for the first time, I think it helped me for the first 50-60% of the run. I am going to run with a bunch of military guys in a 1.5 mile "fun run" next Friday. The guys I'm running with are all people I work with, so they know I'm a recovering couch potato. We'll see how it goes..

Amazing stuff, sid! A few weeks ago, did you even think that was possible? How did you feel during the run... and after?

Well, 5-6 weeks ago I barely was able to make 60 seconds of running. I didn't think it was possible, but the article combined with some FBG testimony convinced me that if it worked for them, it could maybe work for me. During the final 10 minutes, it felt like it always does: like I'm going to die, and I must be insane, and wouldn't stopping be an excellent idea? Afterwards, I was exhausted, but I felt relieved and happy to have made it. There was a lot of bending over with my hands on my knees, trying to breathe, but I knew I needed to keep moving, so I only allowed myself a few seconds of slouching over before I walked a few minutes home.

 

[Darrinll40]

I just ran for 25 minutes.. in a row, for the first time. I used my Ipod that I recently bought for the first time, I think it helped me for the first 50-60% of the run. I am going to run with a bunch of military guys in a 1.5 mile "fun run" next Friday. The guys I'm running with are all people I work with, so they know I'm a recovering couch potato. We'll see how it goes..

Amazing stuff, sid! A few weeks ago, did you even think that was possible? How did you feel during the run... and after?

Well, 5-6 weeks ago I barely was able to make 60 seconds of running. I didn't think it was possible, but the article combined with some FBG testimony convinced me that if it worked for them, it could maybe work for me. During the final 10 minutes, it felt like it always does: like I'm going to die, and I must be insane, and wouldn't stopping be an excellent idea? Afterwards, I was exhausted, but I felt relieved and happy to have made it. There was a lot of bending over with my hands on my knees, trying to breathe, but I knew I needed to keep moving, so I only allowed myself a few seconds of slouching over before I walked a few minutes home.

Every time that I run in a race, I get about half way through and start wondering just what the hell I am doing. I don't feel like I am going to die, but I know right at that moment that I am completely insane. And sitting down would surely feel good. I can't speak for everyone, but I know how you feel.

 

[2Young2BBald]

Anyone have an opinion on Running Times Magazine? I read through one, once on a plane trip and found it weak compared to Runner's World. Our daughter is selling magazine subscriptions for a Middle School fundrasier and were looking for a few to buy to support the school. Are there other good mags other than this one that we should e looking for? I think I'm too old for Men's Health.

 

[SteveUK]

Every time that I run in a race, I get about half way through and start wondering just what the hell I am doing. I don't feel like I am going to die, but I know right at that moment that I am completely insane. And sitting down would surely feel good. I can't speak for everyone, but I know how you feel.

If you are able to think in the middle of a race, you're not trying hard enough

 

[El Floppo]

I just ran for 25 minutes.. in a row, for the first time.

I used my Ipod that I recently bought for the first time, I think it helped me for the first 50-60% of the run.

I am going to run with a bunch of military guys in a 1.5 mile "fun run" next Friday. The guys I'm running with are all people I work with, so they know I'm a recovering couch potato. We'll see how it goes..

Amazing stuff, sid! A few weeks ago, did you even think that was possible? How did you feel during the run... and after?

Well, 5-6 weeks ago I barely was able to make 60 seconds of running. I didn't think it was possible, but the article combined with some FBG testimony convinced me that if it worked for them, it could maybe work for me. During the final 10 minutes, it felt like it always does: like I'm going to die, and I must be insane, and wouldn't stopping be an excellent idea? Afterwards, I was exhausted, but I felt relieved and happy to have made it. There was a lot of bending over with my hands on my knees, trying to breathe, but I knew I needed to keep moving, so I only allowed myself a few seconds of slouching over before I walked a few minutes home.

Every time that I run in a race, I get about half way through and start wondering just what the hell I am doing. I don't feel like I am going to die, but I know right at that moment that I am completely insane. And sitting down would surely feel good. I can't speak for everyone, but I know how you feel.

Doesn't happen to me in races (although my mind was mush by the tail part of my marathon in the IM), because I know what the target goal is. But it definitely happens to me in training, especially if I don't have a specific workout planned. But it's been a long time since I've raced- so maybe, the way pregnant women forget the pain of child-birth eventually (which allows them to want to conceive again), I've completely blocked out the agony that race-pace conditions provides.Oh... Sid- mebbe you did this too, but I find that I get more oxygen into my tired lungs after a workout if I lift my hands above my head instead of leaning them over onto my knees (I think it has to do with having your lungs/air passages opened up versus compressed when you lean over. Seems counter intuitive in the moment (I'm tired, so I'll lean over)- but it works... at least for me.

 

[El Floppo]

Went over teh Williamsburgh Bridge into Brooklyn, back across the Brooklyn Bridge into Manhattan, and out and back what just past the Battery to give me what I thought was going give me my scheduled 13m run. 2:01, which seemed fairly slow for the effort I gave (wanted to push it a little this week on a shorter run before next weekend's 20+m).

Turns out, I over-ran my scheduled 13m by a 1.5.... so, 14.5m in 2:01. I'm glad I hit the bridges on both the out and the back- the Williamsburgh approach is pretty steep on the Brooklyn side, and it kicked my ### (an older cat flew past me like I was standing still on that uphill). NYC has it's biggest "hill" after the start at about mile 16- the 59th St. Bridge back into Manhattan- if I ran at today's pace, obviously without any taper, I'd be toast on the marathon- I had very little left in the tank when I got home.

 

[tri-man 47]

One more thing, I had posted a quest a while back about “adventure” fun runs. I am doing one next weekend here in Detroit http://motorcityscramble.com/. Figure I’d ask again, has anyone done one of these? If so, is there somewhere I can look t see what the side events might be? It’ll be fun to be kicking around downtown Detroit with a number and shirt on running from place to place (like, I am assuming, Ford Filed, Comerica Park and The Joe).

Finally, man the fall weather is nice. Still warm, but much easier to run in that that high humidity.

I've not done an adventure run, but that looks pretty neat! Lil bit a speed, lil bit of skill ...justifies some good to recount the event afterwards. Could be fun!And on the magazines - sorry, I only subscribe to SI and Triathlete magazine. So no advice to offer.

Workouts:

It was a light week (4 miles on Wed, 6 miles on Thurs), so after some biking yesterday I did a longer-than-planned 16 mile run today. Same course as last week to get in my 'hills.' I was doing the primary five loops at a pace from 8:00/mile down to 8:14/mile - too fast, really, for a training run, but I wanted to work it a bit.

I spent all yesterday down in Champaign, IL watching my son's team play in a men's club tournament. Since we left early and I knew we'd be tied up all day, I brought the bike and had my wife drop me off at an exit 30 miles from the campus gym. I headed to a country road nearby and got in a great ride - flat and fast (always relative for me on the bike) ...no stops or slow-downs at all.

 

[gruecd]

Half marathon sucked.

I've been fighting a nasty cold for the past 3-4 days, and sitting outside last night at the Badgers game probably didn't help anything. Got home from Madison at about 1:00 this morning, so by the time I got to bed it was 1:30 or so, and I got up about 5:00 to drive to the finish line and catch the shuttle back to the start.

I'd been hoping to break 1:30 (or at least set a new PR), but considering my cold and lack of sleep, I probably should've revised my goals. My first four splits were pretty good (6:49, 6:53, 6:44, and 6:50). The next three were a little slower, but still OK (7:10, 7:07, and 7:08), but then the wheels started falling off. I took my first walk break during the 8th mile and took several more throughout the remainder of the race. I felt like such crap that I actually contemplated dropping out at one point. My splits for miles 8-12 were as follows: 7:45, 7:52, 7:50, 8:25, and 8:27. I did manage to put on a brave face for all of the spectators around the finish line, running 7:42 for mile 13 and 1:35 for the last tenth.

My total time was a disappointing 1:38:24, for an average pace of 7:26. Fortunately, I've got another race in 2 weeks (a 10-miler in Minneapolis), so I'll focus on getting rested and healthy for that one. At least the Packers look pretty good.

 

[2Young2BBald]

Half marathon sucked.I've been fighting a nasty cold for the past 3-4 days, and sitting outside last night at the Badgers game probably didn't help anything. Got home from Madison at about 1:00 this morning, so by the time I got to bed it was 1:30 or so, and I got up about 5:00 to drive to the finish line and catch the shuttle back to the start.I'd be hoping to break 1:30 (or at least set a new PR), but considering my cold and lack of sleep, I probably should've revised my goals. My first four splits were pretty good (6:49, 6:53, 6:44, and 6:50). The next three were a little slower, but still OK (7:10, 7:07, and 7:08), but then the wheels started falling off. I took my first walk break during the 8th mile and took several more throughout the remainder of the race. I felt like such crap that I actually contemplated dropping out at one point. My splits for miles 8-12 were as follows: 7:45, 7:52, 7:50, 8:25, and 8:27. I did manage to put on a brave face for all of the spectators around the finish line, running 7:42 for mile 13 and 1:35 for the last tenth.My total time was a disappointing 1:38:24, for an average pace of 7:26. Fortunately, I've another race in 2 weeks (a 10-miler in Minneapolis), so I'll focus on getting rested and healthy for that one. At least the Packers look pretty good.

Man, I thought I was hard on myself. Sounds like you gave it all you had based on the circumstances. Any silver linings (cool medal, hotties in lycra, nice race goodies, etc)?

 

[gruecd]

Man, I thought I was hard on myself. Sounds like you gave it all you had based on the circumstances. Any silver linings (cool medal, hotties in lycra, nice race goodies, etc)?

That's the worst part of all. There was a hottie in lycra running just ahead of me for the first 3-4 miles, and I couldn't keep up with her.

 

[tri-man 47]

Man, I thought I was hard on myself. Sounds like you gave it all you had based on the circumstances. Any silver linings (cool medal, hotties in lycra, nice race goodies, etc)?

That's the worst part of all. There was a hottie in lycra running just ahead of me for the first 3-4 miles, and I couldn't keep up with her.

If she has a 9 year old son running in the Green Bay area, we could have a conspiracy going on here.Tough race - never fun to struggle through like that. Nail the next one ...nail the next one.

 

[mr. furley]

Man, I thought I was hard on myself. Sounds like you gave it all you had based on the circumstances. Any silver linings (cool medal, hotties in lycra, nice race goodies, etc)?

That's the worst part of all. There was a hottie in lycra running just ahead of me for the first 3-4 miles, and I couldn't keep up with her.

If she has a 9 year old son running in the Green Bay area, we could have a conspiracy going on here.Tough race - never fun to struggle through like that. Nail the next one ...nail the next one.

 

[Dash]

Less than a week to go until my Century. Heading into yesterday I was concerned about conditioning, but now I know I'll be fine. I just have to make sure my group shows up (or I latch onto one) and I don't have to press my limits too much, too early. Seems like 10 miles is where my legs are warm enough to pick up the pace and be OK.

Thursday: Spin class. Got in 20 minutes of pre-class work at a reasonable HR (~145-150) and had a good, hard class. I ran out of water quickly, but did fine.

Friday: unexpectedly off.

Saturday morning: 23+ miles at a comfortable pace, going hard a couple times at the end. That workout will be repeated, in shorter fashion, this coming Saturday.

Sunday: planned 50 miler group ride, but no one else showed. I was pissed. I don't know all the turns to stay on safe roads and, for confidence, desperately needed to get in 50 miles. Grumbling, I set out solo and decided to "get lost." Never got lost and found familiar landmarks from previous group rides. I guess I still pay attention to the road while suffering. Managed to get 20+ miles out and the same back, rounding out the 50 by completing a loop at the local park. Riding solo ended up giving a bigger confidence boost than a group ride could have. My legs are a touch heavy today, but not sore at all. Intentionally, I didn't eat enough on the ride so I could finish in food-debt -- I wanted to ensure I had the confidence to ride strong when hungry and to remind myself of what will happen if I don't eat enough on the century. I ate like a horse the rest of the day.

 

[El Floppo]

Half marathon sucked.I've been fighting a nasty cold for the past 3-4 days, and sitting outside last night at the Badgers game probably didn't help anything. Got home from Madison at about 1:00 this morning, so by the time I got to bed it was 1:30 or so, and I got up about 5:00 to drive to the finish line and catch the shuttle back to the start.I'd been hoping to break 1:30 (or at least set a new PR), but considering my cold and lack of sleep, I probably should've revised my goals. My first four splits were pretty good (6:49, 6:53, 6:44, and 6:50). The next three were a little slower, but still OK (7:10, 7:07, and 7:08), but then the wheels started falling off. I took my first walk break during the 8th mile and took several more throughout the remainder of the race. I felt like such crap that I actually contemplated dropping out at one point. My splits for miles 8-12 were as follows: 7:45, 7:52, 7:50, 8:25, and 8:27. I did manage to put on a brave face for all of the spectators around the finish line, running 7:42 for mile 13 and 1:35 for the last tenth.My total time was a disappointing 1:38:24, for an average pace of 7:26. Fortunately, I've got another race in 2 weeks (a 10-miler in Minneapolis), so I'll focus on getting rested and healthy for that one. At least the Packers look pretty good.

Sorry about the result, gruecd. Seems like at a certain point it gets tougher to top yourself and PR every time you go out there... at least it was for me back when I was racing regularly. I guess there's always lessons learned and whatnot, but it's still a tough pill for me to swallow.That said- sub 1:40 1/2 is still a pretty decent result in the grand scheme of things. Nice to be able to be disappointed with a "meh... 1:38". Hope you're feeling healthier and that the 10m goes better for you- what are your goals for that (barring more PTTS issues)?

 

[El Floppo]

Less than a week to go until my Century. Heading into yesterday I was concerned about conditioning, but now I know I'll be fine. I just have to make sure my group shows up (or I latch onto one) and I don't have to press my limits too much, too early. Seems like 10 miles is where my legs are warm enough to pick up the pace and be OK.

Thursday: Spin class. Got in 20 minutes of pre-class work at a reasonable HR (~145-150) and had a good, hard class. I ran out of water quickly, but did fine.

Friday: unexpectedly off.

Saturday morning: 23+ miles at a comfortable pace, going hard a couple times at the end. That workout will be repeated, in shorter fashion, this coming Saturday.

Sunday: planned 50 miler group ride, but no one else showed. I was pissed. I don't know all the turns to stay on safe roads and, for confidence, desperately needed to get in 50 miles. Grumbling, I set out solo and decided to "get lost." Never got lost and found familiar landmarks from previous group rides. I guess I still pay attention to the road while suffering. Managed to get 20+ miles out and the same back, rounding out the 50 by completing a loop at the local park. Riding solo ended up giving a bigger confidence boost than a group ride could have. My legs are a touch heavy today, but not sore at all. Intentionally, I didn't eat enough on the ride so I could finish in food-debt -- I wanted to ensure I had the confidence to ride strong when hungry and to remind myself of what will happen if I don't eat enough on the century. I ate like a horse the rest of the day.

Whoa... I like the masochistic approach to the training- making yourself how you shouldn't feel on race day, just in case. I've never tried to put myself in those places, but the experience of being there can't be beat. Do you have a nutrition plan- how much and where/when on the race-course you'll take certain things in? I used to map those out for my longer tris and found them really, really helpful.

Any idea roughly how long it's going to take you?

 

[SFBayDuck]

T-minus 6 days to my 12K!

Had the daughter's b-day party and all the prep and family and everything else that goes with it this weekend, along with the Oregon v Stanford game (hope you enjoyed that result, Floppo!), so didn't get my long run in. Did finally tell my wife at 6:30 last night that I had to have 30 minutes to get something in, so dashed out and did my normal 5K route, pushing the 2nd half at a pretty fast pace for me.

My normal pace at 3-4 miles falls between 9:15 and 9:50 or so, so my goal for this weekend is to 1) finish, and 2) run sub-10:00 miles. That'd put me right about 74:30. What I'd love to do is run it closer to my quicker pace and get in under 70:00, I'd be pretty stoked with that. To be honest, as this really is my first race and I've only run close to that distance twice, I'm not sure what to expect or where to realistically set my goals.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

5mi on Saturday, in 46:09. My ol' TNT coach's group was running the hills near my house, so I joined 'em. Some nice eye candy, but why oh why do they have to ruin a perfectly good imagining-them-running-nekkid fantasy by saying "blah blah blah my boyfriend blah blah blah"?! It's as if they're instantly covered in CSI fingerprint dust to show his handprints all over.

Anyhow, I definitely feel the cooler weather is refueling my tank as I ran the hills better than I ever have. I walked briefly at the turn-around point, mainly because it finished on a downhill, so I walked uphill a bit. The run back was mostly downhill. In previous runs there, those hills would kill me well before the turn-around.

I'll be back on the track again tonight, like last Monday, but I have my watch this time so I'll be able to see if I really was flying last week or simply didn't run as far as I thought I did.

Keep up the good work folks!

 

[El Floppo]

5mi on Saturday, in 46:09. My ol' TNT coach's group was running the hills near my house, so I joined 'em. Some nice eye candy, but why oh why do they have to ruin a perfectly good imagining-them-running-nekkid fantasy by saying "blah blah blah my boyfriend blah blah blah"?! It's as if they're instantly covered in CSI fingerprint dust to show his handprints all over.

Anyhow, I definitely feel the cooler weather is refueling my tank as I ran the hills better than I ever have. I walked briefly at the turn-around point, mainly because it finished on a downhill, so I walked uphill a bit. The run back was mostly downhill. In previous runs there, those hills would kill me well before the turn-around.

I'll be back on the track again tonight, like last Monday, but I have my watch this time so I'll be able to see if I really was flying last week or simply didn't run as far as I thought I did.

Keep up the good work folks!

Too funny about your TNT crowd. When I was doing it here in NYC (2002), it was 70% girls who had just moved to the city and were all single and looking to meet new people/friends. I told every guy I knew to sign their fat asses up.Hey, RS(or anybody else)- do you have any thoughts about pushing a 20m workout to be more like 22m? It's the last really long run of the NYC training schedule, and after Rusty's similar post talking about the pschological aspect of getting past 20, I had similar ideas and wanted to add a couple of miles to NYRR's scheduled 20.

 

[culdeus]

For those that care

Countdown to Oct. 1We're ONE WEEK AWAY from the Oct. 1 opening of registration for the 2008 BP MS 150!

It's an event worth coming to again and again. There's one of these in my backyard, but I do this one instead. I'm in with a good team and we always get people from far away traveling to this event. You'll get good support and have a great time doing it. Any fitness level can do this ride. pigskin-> No excuses this time.Registration should fill up in about 3 weeks.

 

[Rock Lonemilk]

Hey, RS(or anybody else)- do you have any thoughts about pushing a 20m workout to be more like 22m?

Add 2 more miles?

 

[El Floppo]

OH- continued sale at Nashbar.com this week. Today is 25% off of all their components.

 

[El Floppo]

Hey, RS(or anybody else)- do you have any thoughts about pushing a 20m workout to be more like 22m?

Add 2 more miles?

But if I keep adding, and adding and folding and folding- what will I be left with? Nothing, that's what.

 

[gruecd]

Hope you're feeling healthier and that the 10m goes better for you- what are your goals for that (barring more PTTS issues)?

My time from last year was 1:10:15, so I'd be happy with anything faster than that, but ideally I'd like to run between 1:08 and 1:10.

 

[gruecd]

Interesting side note. The afforementioned (23-year-old) hottie in lycra actually ended up winning the women's half marathon in 1:32:15. Her 7:03 pace was relatively slow as far as race winners are concerned; I should've been able to hang with her.

Anyway, I told my wife this morning that the girl I'd been running with for the first 4-5 miles ended up winning the women's half marathon. My wife was out on the course cheering, so she'd seen her come through before me at the 7-mile marker. "You mean the one in the black [latex] shorts? You were running with her?" she asked. When I asked her what she meant by that, she replied, "Because she was hot!"

Once the race photos are available, I'll have to make sure I give you guys a link to the pics for bib #2266, the lycra hottie!

 

[El Floppo]

Interesting side note. The afforementioned (23-year-old) hottie in lycra actually ended up winning the women's half marathon in 1:32:15. Her 7:03 pace was relatively slow as far as race winners are concerned; I should've been able to hang with her.

Anyway, I told my wife this morning that the girl I'd been running with for the first 4-5 miles ended up winning the women's half marathon. My wife was out on the course cheering, so she'd seen her come through before me at the 7-mile marker. "You mean the one in the black [latex] shorts? You were running with her?" she asked. When I asked her what she meant by that, she replied, "Because she was hot!"

Once the race photos are available, I'll have to make sure I give you guys a link to the pics for bib #2266, the lycra hottie!

 

[tri-man 47]

Once the race photos are available, I'll have to make sure I give you guys a link to the pics for bib #2266, the lycra hottie!

 

[RoarinSonoran]

Hey, RS(or anybody else)- do you have any thoughts about pushing a 20m workout to be more like 22m?

Add 2 more miles?

I was going to suggest that two more meters (or metres, whatever floats your boat) shouldn't make that much of a difference.

 

[tri-man 47]

T-minus 6 days to my 12K!

My normal pace at 3-4 miles falls between 9:15 and 9:50 or so, so my goal for this weekend is to 1) finish, and 2) run sub-10:00 miles. That'd put me right about 74:30. What I'd love to do is run it closer to my quicker pace and get in under 70:00, I'd be pretty stoked with that. To be honest, as this really is my first race and I've only run close to that distance twice, I'm not sure what to expect or where to realistically set my goals.

You can play around with this:http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/rununiv/mcm...gcalculator.htm

It'll give you a feel as to how a firm 3-4 mile effort translates to longer distances. It's certainly not perfect (given speed work focus for shorter races, or long-run focus for the endurance events), but it's helpful.

Relax this week! Stay loose and limber. Don't think more training will improve your effort, now.

 

[El Floppo]

Hey, RS(or anybody else)- do you have any thoughts about pushing a 20m workout to be more like 22m?

Add 2 more miles?

I was going to suggest that two more meters (or metres, whatever floats your boat) shouldn't make that much of a difference.

I've heard those last two meters are doozies.Seriously- have had experience with doing a training run longer than 20 miles prior to a marathon?

 

[El Floppo]

T-minus 6 days to my 12K!

My normal pace at 3-4 miles falls between 9:15 and 9:50 or so, so my goal for this weekend is to 1) finish, and 2) run sub-10:00 miles. That'd put me right about 74:30. What I'd love to do is run it closer to my quicker pace and get in under 70:00, I'd be pretty stoked with that. To be honest, as this really is my first race and I've only run close to that distance twice, I'm not sure what to expect or where to realistically set my goals.

You can play around with this:http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/rununiv/mcm...gcalculator.htm

It'll give you a feel as to how a firm 3-4 mile effort translates to longer distances. It's certainly not perfect (given speed work focus for shorter races, or long-run focus for the endurance events), but it's helpful.

Relax this week! Stay loose and limber. Don't think more training will improve your effort, now.

And that calculator is very cool (although according to it, I should be doing my marathon in 3:02)

 

[PatriotJohn]

Great job everyone! I have been lurking in this thread for a while, wondering whether to contribute to this one or the Marathon training one. Having missed the Air Force Marathon events for the first time in about 5 years gave me the itch again. A little background first:

I have mainly been a "Spring and Summer" runner for the last 5-7 years participating in 5K's to relays, to the AF Half Marathon in 05. I am a clydesdale (@205-215) but I am going to try to get down to 175 because I do want to do the entire Marathon next Sept. I ran the AF Half-Marathon in 2:17 at 203 lbs with stress fracture that hurt like nobody's business the last 5 miles, but still beat my goal.

For now my short term goals are to keep diet under 2000 calories a day (except for calorie cycling days to keep metabolism high), at least 64oz or more of clear liquids a day (I gave up all candy/ice cream/diet sodas and only drink green tea, and water), and at least 3-4 days of exercise.

I am only doing 2 days of running right now starting at 2 miles and plan on upping the mileage by 1/2 mile per month until I hit about 4-5 miles. I used the Hal Higdon's half marathon schedule, and plan on doing the same for the full. My only concern is running too much and recausing the fracture problem that I had a few years ago. Doc says it is completely healed and if my mileage is ramped up slow enough, my bones will respond and get strong.

I will put my progress on here and keep the thread running, and for those who are thinking of starting, come and join me!

This is day 7, I ran twice this week and will again tomorrow. My first 2 times were 22:22 and 21:57. The second run I actually walked for 1 minute of that time for recovery and that seemed to help. so I may continue to incorporate that in my training. I will walk/bike/elliptical the days I dont run. I started at 213.2 and am not at 208.6. I went backpacking in New Mexico in June for 11 days and came back at 197, so I know I can lose it and then some!

Thanks for the podium....I will step down now!

 

[Darrinll40]

Welcome PJ. I know that since I started running in December I have lost about 35 pounds, 220-186ish.

I put in 7 miles yesterday in a bit less than 1:08. I probably should not have run as I was feeling a bit ill, but I ran anyway. I was sick enough this morning that I called off of work and I just got out of bed. The rest seems to have worked as I am feeling much better. I am going to do short easy runs on Tuesday and Wednesday, then Saturday is the next 5K.

I have one concern for my half training. I have races the next 3 weekends so I won't be doing any long runs for almost a month. I know that I can run a half as I have done 13.5 miles twice in July. I guess I am worried about not getting more long runs in before the half on December 16. I am planning a ten mile race on Thanksgiving Day, and I probably won't be doing any long runs after that until the 16th. Should this concern me, or will I have plenty of time for enough long runs?

PS. My long runs are either 9 or 11 miles.

 

[tri-man 47]

Great job everyone! I have been lurking in this thread for a while, wondering whether to contribute to this one or the Marathon training one.

and I agree with your Doc.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

T-minus 6 days to my 12K!

My normal pace at 3-4 miles falls between 9:15 and 9:50 or so, so my goal for this weekend is to 1) finish, and 2) run sub-10:00 miles. That'd put me right about 74:30. What I'd love to do is run it closer to my quicker pace and get in under 70:00, I'd be pretty stoked with that. To be honest, as this really is my first race and I've only run close to that distance twice, I'm not sure what to expect or where to realistically set my goals.

You can play around with this:http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/rununiv/mcm...gcalculator.htm

It'll give you a feel as to how a firm 3-4 mile effort translates to longer distances. It's certainly not perfect (given speed work focus for shorter races, or long-run focus for the endurance events), but it's helpful.

Relax this week! Stay loose and limber. Don't think more training will improve your effort, now.

And that calculator is very cool (although according to it, I should be doing my marathon in 3:02)

A 10:00 pace will get you through a marathon in 4:22.

PACE	MARATHON TIME07:00	3:03:3207:15	3:10:0507:30	3:16:3807:45	3:23:1208:00	3:29:4508:15	3:36:1808:30	3:42:5208:45	3:49:2509:00	3:55:5809:15	4:02:3109:30	4:09:0509:45	4:15:3810:00	4:22:1110:15	4:28:4510:30	4:35:1810:45	4:41:5111:00	4:48:24