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Ran a 10k in June (3 Viewers)

my mom almost fainted when she found out he drove the 200 miles. :thumbup:
Very impressive, indeed, tri-man! Would've been nice to have been there, since I live about 30 miles from the school and attended college 1-2 miles down the road. As it stands, I'm in Cancun looking out my window at beautiful women walking about the beach, so I guess things could be worse. Now if only my wife would finish putzing with her hair so that I can go see them up close! :stalker: Quick running update. Left Thursday for the vacation, and it's hella hot and humid down here, so all I've done is a couple of 30-minute runs. I've got a half marathon next weekend anyway, so I guess I'm just doing an extended taper.
 
34:37 was my time. pretty damned happy with it. finished 6th (of 6) in my age group :unsure: but i was happy to run it. feeling pretty proud today. :lmao:
I always finish last in my age group? How old of a guy are you, Furley? If you're in the 35-39 range, I'd love to run a race with you sometime in the next month so I can actually RACE someone! ;) Seriously, though. Nice work. You should be VERY proud of what you've accomplished.
Weren't you doing a tri today???
Yeah... I survived and finished in 1:58:18. I'll try to post a full race report later tonight or tomorrow when I get a chance. I can pretty much sum it all up by saying I would NOT have finished the swim segment without the wetsuit I bought yesterday. My first open water swim. My first swim in a wetsuit. COMPLETELY demoralizing. It took me 11:41 to swim a quarter mile! :bag:
:bs: ... Ummmm... not so bad, really. At least for me :bag: Fantastic work getting that thing done! Can't wait to hear your thoughts about it.

 
Weren't you doing a tri today???
Yeah... I survived and finished in 1:58:18. I'll try to post a full race report later tonight or tomorrow when I get a chance. I can pretty much sum it all up by saying I would NOT have finished the swim segment without the wetsuit I bought yesterday. My first open water swim. My first swim in a wetsuit. COMPLETELY demoralizing. It took me 11:41 to swim a quarter mile! :pokey:
:thumbup: ... Ummmm... not so bad, really. At least for me :bag:
My first tri-swim (.93 of a mile) took me something like 45 or 48 minutes - also very demoralizing. We all have to take that first step, whether it's our first tri-swim, our first 5K, those first pounds shed, whatever it might be. First steps lead to next steps, and those lead to improvement and new goals. You did it...that's what's important!
 
Congrat's to Furley and Rock, as well as Tri-Man!! It's amazing how far you've come Furley!! Rock: open water swims are a crapshoot. You survived the hardest one = your first. My first was almost my last, as I barely lived through it (I drank a good fourth of the lake!).

As for Tri-Man. You Rock!! Great race "old man". You are an inspiration to the rest of us "old men." As stated above, you are a class act! Great that you made it there to support Furley! :bag:

 
Weren't you doing a tri today???
Yeah... I survived and finished in 1:58:18. I'll try to post a full race report later tonight or tomorrow when I get a chance. I can pretty much sum it all up by saying I would NOT have finished the swim segment without the wetsuit I bought yesterday. My first open water swim. My first swim in a wetsuit. COMPLETELY demoralizing. It took me 11:41 to swim a quarter mile! :bag:
:confused: ... Ummmm... not so bad, really. At least for me :bag:
My first tri-swim (.93 of a mile) took me something like 45 or 48 minutes - also very demoralizing. We all have to take that first step, whether it's our first tri-swim, our first 5K, those first pounds shed, whatever it might be. First steps lead to next steps, and those lead to improvement and new goals. You did it...that's what's important!
Ummm... I've done a lot of tris, and that's STILL basically my speed.
 
Congrat's to Furley and Rock, as well as Tri-Man!! It's amazing how far you've come Furley!! Rock: open water swims are a crapshoot. You survived the hardest one = your first. My first was almost my last, as I barely lived through it (I drank a good fourth of the lake!). As for Tri-Man. You Rock!! Great race "old man". You are an inspiration to the rest of us "old men." As stated above, you are a class act! Great that you made it there to support Furley! :thumbup:
:goodposting: AND he ran really fast in the process! I had no idea he had to drive 200 miles prior... wait... on race-day? :bow:
 
20m run in the books.

Went really well- considering all the :no: -ing I've been doing (and I didn't really sleep too well again last night- the kid has decided he doesn't want to be swaddled... or at least he wants OUT of the swaddle, but really deep down DOES want to be swaddled. :loco: ... and we went with night #2 of no-swaddle, which was... um... interesting.).

Weather: 50s and breezy, but overall pretty prime running conditions (for me)

PTTS: Not perfect sleep. Dinner didn't really sit right last night and lack of poopage had me worried about needing to hustle to find myself a rest-stop along the way (which fortunately didn't happen). Newish shorts I bought for the race started to really chaffe after about 12m... will need to rethink what I'm running in on race day.

Route: Across Williamsburgh Bridge into Brooklyn. Brooklyn Bridge back to Manhattan. East River bike/running path around the Battery and up the Hudson to 42nd St and then back down along the Hudson/Battery and up the East River to home.

Nutrition: 28oz Gatorade endurance (will be on the race course) and 14oz water. 3 gels (2 plain Gus, 1 Crank E-gel)- 1 every 45min (while walking for a minute). 1 Lava Salt electrolyte pill @ 2:00.

Time: 2:53

I took the first 10k or so (through Brooklyn and back to Manhattan) really easy, which I think is a key for me running these longer runs happily. The route on Manhattan was pretty windy with it either in my face or at my back. It started in my face which forced me to work a little harder, but even so, was still breathing easy until my turnaround at 42nd at mile 12.

Once I turned to run with the wind, I (maybe) foolishly kept the same effort and really "flew" back down (a couple of sub 8:00miles) until I rounded the Battery and headed back up the East River. But by then, even though I had probably gone a little too fast (again- goal of sub4:00, which is basically a 9;00m pace), I was close enough to home (3m) that I knew I could more or less maintain what I was doing.

Definitely felt tired at the finish, but not spent. Had I kept things more in check, I probably would've felt comfortable going the full distance- but I doubt I could've gone another 2 miles today. Considering I just commented to Darrin about pacing, I did a pretty piss-poor job of it myself today (.. :thumbup: ... it was the wind... :yucky: .... :bag: ) after the initial 10k. Makes me feel convinced to join one of the pacing groups for the race just to keep myself honest.

I have mile breakdowns more or less, but Tri-Man will get upset with me. Speaking of... isn't he doing a 20m today too? Even after his 5k speedfest? :awe:

 
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I've thought about this before- but I think it would be interesting to get a race-day, or workout-day meal talk going, just to see what people are doing.

Me- Chocolate Ensure (... :( ... ), Clif Bar, 600mg Ibuprofren, Water.

The Ibuprofren is something I just tried today- and I think it helped (will be doing it from here on out). The rest is my typical pre-race, big workout breakfast. If it's a smaller workout (less than 1:30), I'll skip the Clif Bar. IIRC, I had a PBJ bagel instead of the Clif, the Ensure (Plus) and a banana the day of my IM.

 
Same book, different chapter ...20 miles for me, too.

It was a good, steady run. The heart of the run were seven loops that allowed me to (a) do 14 x-way overpass 'hills' and (b) catch water at a park's drinking fountain. I also brought 14 oz. of Accelerade and two gels that I drank/ate while running ( :boxing: ). Overall time was under 2:50, so the pace was probably about 8:20-25/mile. Sorry, I don't have mile splits. :wall: The legs were getting kind of mushy at the end (can't imagine why!), especially the quads, but I was still moving good.

Afterward, I drank a bit glass of Accelerade, then also some Endurox and toast with PB. Now having a meal replacement shake.

 
Same book, different chapter ...20 miles for me, too.

It was a good, steady run. The heart of the run were seven loops that allowed me to (a) do 14 x-way overpass 'hills' and (b) catch water at a park's drinking fountain. I also brought 14 oz. of Accelerade and two gels that I drank/ate while running ( :boxing: ). Overall time was under 2:50, so the pace was probably about 8:20-25/mile. Sorry, I don't have mile splits. :lmao: The legs were getting kind of mushy at the end (can't imagine why!), especially the quads, but I was still moving good.

Afterward, I drank a bit glass of Accelerade, then also some Endurox and toast with PB. Now having a meal replacement shake.
Nice job, t-m! 400 miles in the car and a 5k at race pace... and then this- very impressive. What's your BQ time/pace? You still keeping that in sight, or just going out for the "fun" of it?The 14x overpass repeates sounds like a solid idea. :thumbup:

The 14x loops sounds like a loopily :loco: idea. :confused:

I debated running back through Brooklyn on my way home and taking advantage of the bridge "hills" at the end of my run.... but I wimped out and stuck to the flats.

 
This may have been covered, but what do you guys do for....uh...support while running. Boxer shorts aren't getting the job done.

 
This may have been covered, but what do you guys do for....uh...support while running. Boxer shorts aren't getting the job done.
I would burst in to flames from the friction if I wore boxers. I have several pair of Brooks running shorts with the nylon support liner. Less than 3 miles I don't need Glide, more than taht and I use the Glide too. Good for the feet too.
 
I've posted my full race report from my first triathlon yesterday on my blog. Would you guys prefer a link so you can read it there, or should I copy and paste it here?

Just in case a link is adequate, here you go. Look for the post that says "I am a Triathlete!"

Thanks a TON for all of your support and encouragement. I can honestly say that I almost quit during the swim, but something about being accountable to you guys made me keep going.

 
This may have been covered, but what do you guys do for....uh...support while running. Boxer shorts aren't getting the job done.
I would burst in to flames from the friction if I wore boxers. I have several pair of Brooks running shorts with the nylon support liner. Less than 3 miles I don't need Glide, more than taht and I use the Glide too. Good for the feet too.
Are you telling me to rub Glide on my junk? I may have to ask my wife to apply it for me. I may also have to quite running in basketball shorts.
 
This may have been covered, but what do you guys do for....uh...support while running. Boxer shorts aren't getting the job done.
I would burst in to flames from the friction if I wore boxers. I have several pair of Brooks running shorts with the nylon support liner. Less than 3 miles I don't need Glide, more than taht and I use the Glide too. Good for the feet too.
Are you telling me to rub Glide on my junk? I may have to ask my wife to apply it for me. I may also have to quite running in basketball shorts.
Running shorts with the insert are the bomb, and I have never needed to apply any lube to my junk. My nips always get covered with New Skin if I'm running more than 7 miles.
 
This may have been covered, but what do you guys do for....uh...support while running. Boxer shorts aren't getting the job done.
I would burst in to flames from the friction if I wore boxers. I have several pair of Brooks running shorts with the nylon support liner. Less than 3 miles I don't need Glide, more than taht and I use the Glide too. Good for the feet too.
Are you telling me to rub Glide on my junk? I may have to ask my wife to apply it for me. I may also have to quite running in basketball shorts.
Um, maybe :goodposting: More uncomfortable talk, its good for the nips too. Chafe them once and you'll never want to do it again. I think I have shared too much.
 
34:37 was my time. pretty damned happy with it. finished 6th (of 6) in my age group :thumbup: but i was happy to run it. feeling pretty proud today. :confused:
Congrats on finishing buddy. You'll be faster in the future. The first ones the hardest, and all that other motivational crapola. :thumbup:
:thumbup: thanks. was cool to hear people clapping and cheering me on at the end.
Congrats dude! Nice job, and you have now officially gone from couch to 5K!
 
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Just rolled back home from Bridge to Bridge. I'll post a full report tomorrow. Brief summary: 100 mi, 11,500 ft vertical, 6h30m and some change. To sore and tired to get into the details now.

 
Continued my training for the 12K on the 30th with my longest run to date, about 7 1/3 miles! Ran it at 10:00 pace, which is on the slow end of the 9:00-10:00 pace I seem to run most of the time, but I guess that's the point of the long run. Felt pretty good throughout, knee started to hurt a little about mile 5-6, but nothing serious. Had some left in the tank at the finish, picking up the pace the last 3/4 mile or so, which gives me some confidence I can do the 12K at a faster pace than this.

With race day 2 weeks away, I'm also curious to hear what people eat/drink the night before and morning of a race. I "carbo loaded" (don't worry Tri-man no whiskey, or in my case gin) with 5-6 beers last night at a party, planning on taking that a little more seriously on race eve obviously. This morning did a whole wheat bagel with butter about an hour before my run, drank my water bottle during, a GU at 40 minutes, and a Slim Fast and 3 Advil afterwards. My face was pretty covered with salt afterwards, do I need to do Gatorade or something before/during?

 
bentley said:
2Young2BBald said:
bentley said:
This may have been covered, but what do you guys do for....uh...support while running. Boxer shorts aren't getting the job done.
I would burst in to flames from the friction if I wore boxers. I have several pair of Brooks running shorts with the nylon support liner. Less than 3 miles I don't need Glide, more than taht and I use the Glide too. Good for the feet too.
Are you telling me to rub Glide on my junk? I may have to ask my wife to apply it for me. I may also have to quite running in basketball shorts.
You have to ask?Pretty much all running shorts these days have a built-in jock that does a good job keeping the boys snug.

I use 3 different brands: PearlIzumi, Voler, Brooks. Just bought the Brooks to run my marathon in, but the jock seems to be getting a bit... droopy... on the longer runs. Not good. Oh- I use the Glide AND A/D diaper creme down there to keep things slippery.

I know other guys happily use "compression" shorts, either on their own, or under gym shorts (if they're feeling shy, I guess).

Or you could buy a jock-strap.

No reason at all to be free-balling at this point in your life. Unless you're like the chick who wants people to see her boobs bounce when she runs... dunno why I thought of Woz when I typed that :link:

 
El Floppo said:
I've thought about this before- but I think it would be interesting to get a race-day, or workout-day meal talk going, just to see what people are doing.Me- Chocolate Ensure (... :link: ... ), Clif Bar, 600mg Ibuprofren, Water.The Ibuprofren is something I just tried today- and I think it helped (will be doing it from here on out). The rest is my typical pre-race, big workout breakfast. If it's a smaller workout (less than 1:30), I'll skip the Clif Bar. IIRC, I had a PBJ bagel instead of the Clif, the Ensure (Plus) and a banana the day of my IM.
I see Marin-boy chimed in (whole wheat bagel... :link: ..)... anybody else ?
 
Well, yesterday was interesting. I ran just over 5 miles in about 48 minutes in the morning and everything felt great. Then in the afternoon I had a couch slide over my left foot and it took the nail of the big toe completely off. I am going to the Doc at 1 this afternoon. I am hoping it feels ok for my run tomorrow evening, but I will put it off a day or two if necessary. It sounds much worse than it feels.

 
Random Comments:

Pre-Race fuel: Gatorade Rain (20 oz), Bagel w/ cream cheese.

Running undergarments: none. If a tri/bike/swim/brick= Something like these. If a run = something like this.

Rock = sounds like you had a great experience after you made it through the swim. You revealed how important it is to check the course prior to training and especially before racing. Unexpected hills blow! Congrat's on making your goal, and finishing :potkettle:

 
Well, yesterday was interesting. I ran just over 5 miles in about 48 minutes in the morning and everything felt great. Then in the afternoon I had a couch slide over my left foot and it took the nail of the big toe completely off. I am going to the Doc at 1 this afternoon. I am hoping it feels ok for my run tomorrow evening, but I will put it off a day or two if necessary. It sounds much worse than it feels.
:confused:
 
Well, yesterday was interesting. I ran just over 5 miles in about 48 minutes in the morning and everything felt great. Then in the afternoon I had a couch slide over my left foot and it took the nail of the big toe completely off. I am going to the Doc at 1 this afternoon. I am hoping it feels ok for my run tomorrow evening, but I will put it off a day or two if necessary. It sounds much worse than it feels.
Any other swelling/cuts/bruising? Or is it just discomfort from being nail-less? I used to lose my big toe-nail all the time during my soccer days. Once the previously nailed skin toughened up after a few days, I didn't even notice it. I hope that's the case with you too- good luck! [silver lining] Adversity like injury provides amazing opportunity for learning and growth in training [silver lining]
 
Well, yesterday was interesting. I ran just over 5 miles in about 48 minutes in the morning and everything felt great. Then in the afternoon I had a couch slide over my left foot and it took the nail of the big toe completely off. I am going to the Doc at 1 this afternoon. I am hoping it feels ok for my run tomorrow evening, but I will put it off a day or two if necessary. It sounds much worse than it feels.
Be careful with it - the ongoing push-off puts takes more effort than you might think from trying to step on the foot and simulate how a push-off might feel. Hope it's OK!
 
Continued my training for the 12K on the 30th with my longest run to date, about 7 1/3 miles! Ran it at 10:00 pace, which is on the slow end of the 9:00-10:00 pace I seem to run most of the time, but I guess that's the point of the long run.
Agreed!
Had some left in the tank at the finish, picking up the pace the last 3/4 mile or so, which gives me some confidence I can do the 12K at a faster pace than this.
:goodposting: Nice to go into a race with confidence!
I "carbo loaded" (don't worry Tri-man no whiskey, or in my case gin) with 5-6 beers last night at a party
:hophead: I would comment that the true carbo-loading window for a race is about 18-36 hours before, IMO ...so the big meal would be two nights before the race, followed by a good breakfast and snacking the day before.
do I need to do Gatorade or something before/during?
At that distance, you're getting to the point where some Gatorade would probably be helpful. They should have it at aid stations during the race. Depending on your plans to use the aid stations, you might plan on grabbing Gatorade once or twice.
 
I "carbo loaded" (don't worry Tri-man no whiskey, or in my case gin) with 5-6 beers last night at a party
:goodposting: I would comment that the true carbo-loading window for a race is about 18-36 hours before, IMO ...so the big meal would be two nights before the race, followed by a good breakfast and snacking the day before.
This is the kind of info I'm looking for. "Carbo loading" is a term everyone is familiar with (hence my joking that drinking beer was just that), but I along with many don't really have any idea of how it works or how to do it so that it's helpful.
 
do I need to do Gatorade or something before/during?
At that distance, you're getting to the point where some Gatorade would probably be helpful. They should have it at aid stations during the race. Depending on your plans to use the aid stations, you might plan on grabbing Gatorade once or twice.
:stirspot: Do yourself a favor and go to the race website and find out exactly what they'll be serving on the race course. No point trying out gatorade during your next training run if they'll be serving Accelerade instead.And great job on the long run! Where'd you go?
 
Well, yesterday was interesting. I ran just over 5 miles in about 48 minutes in the morning and everything felt great. Then in the afternoon I had a couch slide over my left foot and it took the nail of the big toe completely off. I am going to the Doc at 1 this afternoon. I am hoping it feels ok for my run tomorrow evening, but I will put it off a day or two if necessary. It sounds much worse than it feels.
Any other swelling/cuts/bruising? Or is it just discomfort from being nail-less? I used to lose my big toe-nail all the time during my soccer days. Once the previously nailed skin toughened up after a few days, I didn't even notice it. I hope that's the case with you too- good luck! [silver lining] Adversity like injury provides amazing opportunity for learning and growth in training [silver lining]
No cuts or bruising. I just got back from the doctor and the toe is not broken. I am going to wait until Friday to try and run on it. Hopefully that will be enough time.
 
do I need to do Gatorade or something before/during?
At that distance, you're getting to the point where some Gatorade would probably be helpful. They should have it at aid stations during the race. Depending on your plans to use the aid stations, you might plan on grabbing Gatorade once or twice.
:) Do yourself a favor and go to the race website and find out exactly what they'll be serving on the race course. No point trying out gatorade during your next training run if they'll be serving Accelerade instead.

And great job on the long run! Where'd you go?
Can't find anything on the site about what they'll have, just says water stations at miles 2, 4, and 6. I even surfed around the site looking at the sponsors to see if that would give it away, nothing. Of course Weinerschnitzel is sponsoring, although it didn't mention where on the course the Wiernerschnitzel stations are. :D I just ran from Marin General along the creek up to Ross, then up to Phoenix Lake, alongside that, and then back again. Here it is on mapmyrun.com

 
I "carbo loaded" (don't worry Tri-man no whiskey, or in my case gin) with 5-6 beers last night at a party
:rolleyes: I would comment that the true carbo-loading window for a race is about 18-36 hours before, IMO ...so the big meal would be two nights before the race, followed by a good breakfast and snacking the day before.
This is the kind of info I'm looking for. "Carbo loading" is a term everyone is familiar with (hence my joking that drinking beer was just that), but I along with many don't really have any idea of how it works or how to do it so that it's helpful.
Marathoning for Mortals stated that improper carbo-loading the night before a race can lead to some disgusting carbo-unloading on race day, so I have all but avoided the concept. They more or less reccomended to be sure and have a good meal of something your body is used to and will assimilate well. The last 2 races recently, I tried to eat dinner early around 5:30ish. Had Pizza and a salad, then the 4 beers while out that evening. I have fallen in to an AM routine for races or morning runs of a banana, a Snickers energy bar and 12 ozs or so of EAS Endurathon about an hour and a half before run time. I then sip about 10 ozs of EAS Catapult 20 minutes before the run. I did the entire 10K Saturday without water stops so I was hydrated enough and had a ton of energy even though I was going on about 5 1/2 hours of sleep (I had this weird sensation of running downhill much of the race, even though I was on a very flat track).
 
A couple of people sent me PMs saying it would be a good idea to post the race report from my first triathlon in the thread, so here you go:

It's official! I finished my first triathlon! This one was a sprint with a .25 mile swim, 15 mile bike, and 3 mile run. My time was 1:58:18 - just under my goal of 2:00, so I guess you could call it a success.

I got out of bed at 5:30 am and wondered why it's so much easier to get out of bed for a race than it is for work??? I had packed most everything the night before, so all I really needed to do was brush my teeth, get dressed, and go over the checklist one last time. I had everything I could think of that I would need, so I hit the road at about 5:50 and arrived at Devils Lake State Park at 7:00. The temperature was hovering around 32°F the whole time I was driving, and was 34°F when I arrived at the park. Can you say "shrinkage"?

I found my sister and her husband on my way to the check-in area, so I was already off to a good start. Check-in was a breeze, and we were off to set up our transition areas. My brother-in-law and I were in the same wave (6), so we set up right next to one another. I didn't really have any trouble getting my wetsuit on since I'd practiced several times at home, and it was nice and warm inside. Unfortunately, though, I didn't have anything warm to wear on my bare feet, so they got really cold walking in the wet grass.

Once we got down to the swim start area, I started to get really excited. We looked over the course, and the .25 mile didn't really look too intimidating. As the first 5 waves went out before me, my excitement grew and I started to feel a little nervous too. They called wave 6 to the beach, and then we were off. I started to the outside and in the back in order to be as clear of other swimmers as possible. It was about a 50 yards to the first buoy, and we were able to walk about the first 30 yards or so. Once I started swimming, I realized I wasn't comfortable putting my face in the water for some reason, so I just swam freestyle with my head up, sighting the buoy the entire time. Once we got around the buoy, I was in the back of the wave with about 5-6 other guys. I swam about 25 yards past the buoy and realized I was exhausted! This was MUCH harder than I had expected. I could NOT touch bottom at this point, so I switched over to side stroke, and then breast stroke until I just had to flip over on my back and rest. I was no more the 50 yards past the buoy (about 100 yards into the race), and I was already wondering how in the hell I was ever going to finish the swim. Thank God I had the new wetsuit, because I can guarantee that if I didn't I would NOT have finished the swim. I have a LOT of work to do in this area. Anyway, I continued to alternate between freestyle, side stroke, breast stroke and back float until I was about 30-40 yards from the 2nd buoy (about 350 yards from the starting line), and then I saw my brother-in-law to my left, and he informed me I could touch bottom here! AMEN BROTHER (IN LAW)! I promptly put my feet on the bottom, walked a while, talked to a couple of other guys around me (mostly from wave 7 who had caught me), and then decided to swim another 25 yards or so to get around the last buoy. Once I rounded that buoy, I stood up and headed for shore, stripping my wetsuit down to my waist.

Total swim time: 11:41

My brother-in-law and I were in T1 at the same time and he got out about a minute before I did. I was just happy to be alive and probably celebrated a little too much with some of the other guys in my wave who got there about the same time as we did. I also struggled getting the wetsuit off, which I'll need to work on more before the next tri. I was trying to use my thumb to pull it over my left foot, and after about 3 unsuccessful tries I discovered that I was pulling on the strap for the timing chip! Oops! Anyway, I finally got the suit off, threw on my Under Armour long sleeve compression shirt, my biking jersey, my socks, and my running shoes (you guessed it - I don't have fancy clipless pedals yet). Last, I put on my sunglasses and my helmet, grabbed my bike, and I was OFF like a prom dress. I ran my bike out of T1 to the mounting area and the bike segment had begun.

T1 time: 4:54

The bike was TOUGH! I knew there were some hills, but I was not prepared for these hills. According to the Garmin, we climbed 2219 feet over the course of the 15.3 mile bike course. My bike is not a triple, so I was VERY glad I had bought a 12/27 cassette to replace the 11/23 that came on the bike. There's NO WAY I would have made it up some of those hills with the original cassette. This was the first and only time I really felt like a triple would have come in handy, but I made it up every hill without getting off the bike, and I only got out of the saddle once. (The Garmin says this one had a 30% grade, but that seems a little outrageous. Some of you biker types can tell me if that's even possible, because I'm no expert on grade.) Sure, nearly everyone who passed me did so on the climbs, but I wasn't there to win any awards, so I just said some words of encouragement to each of them and kept pumping. The descents were fun. My max speed was 39MPH, which I'm sure is the fastest I've ever gone on a bike. I was pretty comfortable on the descents, but not in the aero bars. Going that fast, I really only felt comfortable on the hoods, so that's where I stayed. I was probably only in the aero bars about 25% of the ride, mostly on the flats or the small grade rolling hills. My bike felt fast and I really held my own everywhere but the climbs. I passed a TON of wave 3 people during the last 5 miles of the bike. Wave 3 was novice women I believe, and they went off 18 minutes before I did. I drank about 24 ounces of fluids and ate 6 shot blocks while I was on the bike.

Total bike time: 1:09:06 (a whopping average of 13.3 MPH)

T2 was much quicker. After dismounting in front of a huge crowd, I ran the bike to my rack, hung it up, threw my helmet on the ground and put on my running hat, took the Garmin off the bike and put it on my wrist, put on my race number belt and ran out of T2.

T2 time: 2:06

The run was an easy distance for me under normal circumstances, but these weren't normal circumstances. The bricks I did during my training really prepared me for the feeling coming out of T2. That wasn't the problem. I was just exhausted from the bike, which was much more difficult than my 15 mile training rides. My legs were just spent. I ended up walking at a brisk pace up most of the bigger hills, probably a total of 3 times or so. When I set out on the run, my total time was just under 1:28, and the way I felt I was pretty sure I couldn't run 3 miles in under 32 minutes, so I started talking myself out of my 2 hour goal. Well, the angel one shoulder was more convincing than the devil on the other this time, and she convinced me to keep pushing right to the finish. I pushed as hard as I could to the finish and got in almost 2 minutes under my goal of 2 hours!

Total run time: 30:33

Overall total: 1:58:18

I did it! I finished my first triathlon! I learned a lot, and I had a GREAT time. I'm hooked, and now I know what I need to work on this winter and next spring.

Thanks to everyone who believed in me and supported me. I couldn't have done it without all the extra motivation.

Now I just need to decide if I can actually run a half marathon in 2 weeks when I really haven't trained for it.

Hmmm...
 
A couple of people sent me PMs saying it would be a good idea to post the race report from my first triathlon in the thread, so here you go:

It's official! I finished my first triathlon! This one was a sprint with a .25 mile swim, 15 mile bike, and 3 mile run. My time was 1:58:18 - just under my goal of 2:00, so I guess you could call it a success.

I got out of bed at 5:30 am and wondered why it's so much easier to get out of bed for a race than it is for work??? I had packed most everything the night before, so all I really needed to do was brush my teeth, get dressed, and go over the checklist one last time. I had everything I could think of that I would need, so I hit the road at about 5:50 and arrived at Devils Lake State Park at 7:00. The temperature was hovering around 32°F the whole time I was driving, and was 34°F when I arrived at the park. Can you say "shrinkage"?

I found my sister and her husband on my way to the check-in area, so I was already off to a good start. Check-in was a breeze, and we were off to set up our transition areas. My brother-in-law and I were in the same wave (6), so we set up right next to one another. I didn't really have any trouble getting my wetsuit on since I'd practiced several times at home, and it was nice and warm inside. Unfortunately, though, I didn't have anything warm to wear on my bare feet, so they got really cold walking in the wet grass.

Once we got down to the swim start area, I started to get really excited. We looked over the course, and the .25 mile didn't really look too intimidating. As the first 5 waves went out before me, my excitement grew and I started to feel a little nervous too. They called wave 6 to the beach, and then we were off. I started to the outside and in the back in order to be as clear of other swimmers as possible. It was about a 50 yards to the first buoy, and we were able to walk about the first 30 yards or so. Once I started swimming, I realized I wasn't comfortable putting my face in the water for some reason, so I just swam freestyle with my head up, sighting the buoy the entire time. Once we got around the buoy, I was in the back of the wave with about 5-6 other guys. I swam about 25 yards past the buoy and realized I was exhausted! This was MUCH harder than I had expected. I could NOT touch bottom at this point, so I switched over to side stroke, and then breast stroke until I just had to flip over on my back and rest. I was no more the 50 yards past the buoy (about 100 yards into the race), and I was already wondering how in the hell I was ever going to finish the swim. Thank God I had the new wetsuit, because I can guarantee that if I didn't I would NOT have finished the swim. I have a LOT of work to do in this area. Anyway, I continued to alternate between freestyle, side stroke, breast stroke and back float until I was about 30-40 yards from the 2nd buoy (about 350 yards from the starting line), and then I saw my brother-in-law to my left, and he informed me I could touch bottom here! AMEN BROTHER (IN LAW)! I promptly put my feet on the bottom, walked a while, talked to a couple of other guys around me (mostly from wave 7 who had caught me), and then decided to swim another 25 yards or so to get around the last buoy. Once I rounded that buoy, I stood up and headed for shore, stripping my wetsuit down to my waist.

Total swim time: 11:41

My brother-in-law and I were in T1 at the same time and he got out about a minute before I did. I was just happy to be alive and probably celebrated a little too much with some of the other guys in my wave who got there about the same time as we did. I also struggled getting the wetsuit off, which I'll need to work on more before the next tri. I was trying to use my thumb to pull it over my left foot, and after about 3 unsuccessful tries I discovered that I was pulling on the strap for the timing chip! Oops! Anyway, I finally got the suit off, threw on my Under Armour long sleeve compression shirt, my biking jersey, my socks, and my running shoes (you guessed it - I don't have fancy clipless pedals yet). Last, I put on my sunglasses and my helmet, grabbed my bike, and I was OFF like a prom dress. I ran my bike out of T1 to the mounting area and the bike segment had begun.

T1 time: 4:54

The bike was TOUGH! I knew there were some hills, but I was not prepared for these hills. According to the Garmin, we climbed 2219 feet over the course of the 15.3 mile bike course. My bike is not a triple, so I was VERY glad I had bought a 12/27 cassette to replace the 11/23 that came on the bike. There's NO WAY I would have made it up some of those hills with the original cassette. This was the first and only time I really felt like a triple would have come in handy, but I made it up every hill without getting off the bike, and I only got out of the saddle once. (The Garmin says this one had a 30% grade, but that seems a little outrageous. Some of you biker types can tell me if that's even possible, because I'm no expert on grade.) Sure, nearly everyone who passed me did so on the climbs, but I wasn't there to win any awards, so I just said some words of encouragement to each of them and kept pumping. The descents were fun. My max speed was 39MPH, which I'm sure is the fastest I've ever gone on a bike. I was pretty comfortable on the descents, but not in the aero bars. Going that fast, I really only felt comfortable on the hoods, so that's where I stayed. I was probably only in the aero bars about 25% of the ride, mostly on the flats or the small grade rolling hills. My bike felt fast and I really held my own everywhere but the climbs. I passed a TON of wave 3 people during the last 5 miles of the bike. Wave 3 was novice women I believe, and they went off 18 minutes before I did. I drank about 24 ounces of fluids and ate 6 shot blocks while I was on the bike.

Total bike time: 1:09:06 (a whopping average of 13.3 MPH)

T2 was much quicker. After dismounting in front of a huge crowd, I ran the bike to my rack, hung it up, threw my helmet on the ground and put on my running hat, took the Garmin off the bike and put it on my wrist, put on my race number belt and ran out of T2.

T2 time: 2:06

The run was an easy distance for me under normal circumstances, but these weren't normal circumstances. The bricks I did during my training really prepared me for the feeling coming out of T2. That wasn't the problem. I was just exhausted from the bike, which was much more difficult than my 15 mile training rides. My legs were just spent. I ended up walking at a brisk pace up most of the bigger hills, probably a total of 3 times or so. When I set out on the run, my total time was just under 1:28, and the way I felt I was pretty sure I couldn't run 3 miles in under 32 minutes, so I started talking myself out of my 2 hour goal. Well, the angel one shoulder was more convincing than the devil on the other this time, and she convinced me to keep pushing right to the finish. I pushed as hard as I could to the finish and got in almost 2 minutes under my goal of 2 hours!

Total run time: 30:33

Overall total: 1:58:18

I did it! I finished my first triathlon! I learned a lot, and I had a GREAT time. I'm hooked, and now I know what I need to work on this winter and next spring.

Thanks to everyone who believed in me and supported me. I couldn't have done it without all the extra motivation.

Now I just need to decide if I can actually run a half marathon in 2 weeks when I really haven't trained for it.

Hmmm...
I think I already congrulated you- but no harm in offereing up seconds... GREAT work! :confused: ... and congratulations of being a triathlete!Lots to comment on... tips, etc. But most importantly, it sounds like you had a blast throughout (well... ok... mebbe once you got out of the water)- and that's the bottom line!

If you want more specific training/racing tips- you're in the right place (and maybe Joe Bryant will make an appearance and drop some of his multiple IM experience on us) with people in various stages of their tri-careers. I started with TNT about 6 years ago, and then sequed with a couple of the coaches into a tri club that focused on longer events (IMs and 1/2s).

I'm not the fastest or most experienced person out there- but I got some great coaching from a bunch of different people and would be more than happy to pass all of it on whenever you want some info. Just let me know.

 
Speaking of Garmin -- I see there is a new 705/605 to replace the 305/205 series for cyclists. Color screen and maps with directions! A runner's version can't be too far behind.

 
Did 3mi on a track last night. At least I think so. :goodposting: I finished in 25mins (forgot my Garmin, so I had to count laps and use my cell phone to time it), so either I was flying, or I missed a lap. :popcorn:

 
A couple of people sent me PMs saying it would be a good idea to post the race report from my first triathlon in the thread, so here you go:

It's official! I finished my first triathlon! This one was a sprint with a .25 mile swim, 15 mile bike, and 3 mile run. My time was 1:58:18 - just under my goal of 2:00, so I guess you could call it a success.

I got out of bed at 5:30 am and wondered why it's so much easier to get out of bed for a race than it is for work??? I had packed most everything the night before, so all I really needed to do was brush my teeth, get dressed, and go over the checklist one last time. I had everything I could think of that I would need, so I hit the road at about 5:50 and arrived at Devils Lake State Park at 7:00. The temperature was hovering around 32°F the whole time I was driving, and was 34°F when I arrived at the park. Can you say "shrinkage"?

I found my sister and her husband on my way to the check-in area, so I was already off to a good start. Check-in was a breeze, and we were off to set up our transition areas. My brother-in-law and I were in the same wave (6), so we set up right next to one another. I didn't really have any trouble getting my wetsuit on since I'd practiced several times at home, and it was nice and warm inside. Unfortunately, though, I didn't have anything warm to wear on my bare feet, so they got really cold walking in the wet grass.

Once we got down to the swim start area, I started to get really excited. We looked over the course, and the .25 mile didn't really look too intimidating. As the first 5 waves went out before me, my excitement grew and I started to feel a little nervous too. They called wave 6 to the beach, and then we were off. I started to the outside and in the back in order to be as clear of other swimmers as possible. It was about a 50 yards to the first buoy, and we were able to walk about the first 30 yards or so. Once I started swimming, I realized I wasn't comfortable putting my face in the water for some reason, so I just swam freestyle with my head up, sighting the buoy the entire time. Once we got around the buoy, I was in the back of the wave with about 5-6 other guys. I swam about 25 yards past the buoy and realized I was exhausted! This was MUCH harder than I had expected. I could NOT touch bottom at this point, so I switched over to side stroke, and then breast stroke until I just had to flip over on my back and rest. I was no more the 50 yards past the buoy (about 100 yards into the race), and I was already wondering how in the hell I was ever going to finish the swim. Thank God I had the new wetsuit, because I can guarantee that if I didn't I would NOT have finished the swim. I have a LOT of work to do in this area. Anyway, I continued to alternate between freestyle, side stroke, breast stroke and back float until I was about 30-40 yards from the 2nd buoy (about 350 yards from the starting line), and then I saw my brother-in-law to my left, and he informed me I could touch bottom here! AMEN BROTHER (IN LAW)! I promptly put my feet on the bottom, walked a while, talked to a couple of other guys around me (mostly from wave 7 who had caught me), and then decided to swim another 25 yards or so to get around the last buoy. Once I rounded that buoy, I stood up and headed for shore, stripping my wetsuit down to my waist.

Total swim time: 11:41

My brother-in-law and I were in T1 at the same time and he got out about a minute before I did. I was just happy to be alive and probably celebrated a little too much with some of the other guys in my wave who got there about the same time as we did. I also struggled getting the wetsuit off, which I'll need to work on more before the next tri. I was trying to use my thumb to pull it over my left foot, and after about 3 unsuccessful tries I discovered that I was pulling on the strap for the timing chip! Oops! Anyway, I finally got the suit off, threw on my Under Armour long sleeve compression shirt, my biking jersey, my socks, and my running shoes (you guessed it - I don't have fancy clipless pedals yet). Last, I put on my sunglasses and my helmet, grabbed my bike, and I was OFF like a prom dress. I ran my bike out of T1 to the mounting area and the bike segment had begun.

T1 time: 4:54

The bike was TOUGH! I knew there were some hills, but I was not prepared for these hills. According to the Garmin, we climbed 2219 feet over the course of the 15.3 mile bike course. My bike is not a triple, so I was VERY glad I had bought a 12/27 cassette to replace the 11/23 that came on the bike. There's NO WAY I would have made it up some of those hills with the original cassette. This was the first and only time I really felt like a triple would have come in handy, but I made it up every hill without getting off the bike, and I only got out of the saddle once. (The Garmin says this one had a 30% grade, but that seems a little outrageous. Some of you biker types can tell me if that's even possible, because I'm no expert on grade.) Sure, nearly everyone who passed me did so on the climbs, but I wasn't there to win any awards, so I just said some words of encouragement to each of them and kept pumping. The descents were fun. My max speed was 39MPH, which I'm sure is the fastest I've ever gone on a bike. I was pretty comfortable on the descents, but not in the aero bars. Going that fast, I really only felt comfortable on the hoods, so that's where I stayed. I was probably only in the aero bars about 25% of the ride, mostly on the flats or the small grade rolling hills. My bike felt fast and I really held my own everywhere but the climbs. I passed a TON of wave 3 people during the last 5 miles of the bike. Wave 3 was novice women I believe, and they went off 18 minutes before I did. I drank about 24 ounces of fluids and ate 6 shot blocks while I was on the bike.

Total bike time: 1:09:06 (a whopping average of 13.3 MPH)

T2 was much quicker. After dismounting in front of a huge crowd, I ran the bike to my rack, hung it up, threw my helmet on the ground and put on my running hat, took the Garmin off the bike and put it on my wrist, put on my race number belt and ran out of T2.

T2 time: 2:06

The run was an easy distance for me under normal circumstances, but these weren't normal circumstances. The bricks I did during my training really prepared me for the feeling coming out of T2. That wasn't the problem. I was just exhausted from the bike, which was much more difficult than my 15 mile training rides. My legs were just spent. I ended up walking at a brisk pace up most of the bigger hills, probably a total of 3 times or so. When I set out on the run, my total time was just under 1:28, and the way I felt I was pretty sure I couldn't run 3 miles in under 32 minutes, so I started talking myself out of my 2 hour goal. Well, the angel one shoulder was more convincing than the devil on the other this time, and she convinced me to keep pushing right to the finish. I pushed as hard as I could to the finish and got in almost 2 minutes under my goal of 2 hours!

Total run time: 30:33

Overall total: 1:58:18

I did it! I finished my first triathlon! I learned a lot, and I had a GREAT time. I'm hooked, and now I know what I need to work on this winter and next spring.

Thanks to everyone who believed in me and supported me. I couldn't have done it without all the extra motivation.

Now I just need to decide if I can actually run a half marathon in 2 weeks when I really haven't trained for it.

Hmmm...
Great report and congrats on the great time.I'd check that Garmin. I'd did a 13 mile climb that covered somewhere between 3000-4000 feet on Sunday. This wasn't a hill, it was a mountain. You did 2,200 over a 7 mile span (since you came back down). 30% grade is feasible for a very short period of time. Bravo for doing that without clipless. Where was this event?

 
Great job guys.

Bentley-I use compression shorts to keep things in place. I am 33-34 waist and I bought mediums the 1st time-mistake. The smalls are much better. Keeps things in place pretty well. I wear shorts over them but that is just a preference. I seem to run better when I have them on instead of just the compression shorts. I reccommend Body Glide. I works for me. I have had blisters on my toes and chaffing everywhere. I mean everywhere. So I use it on my toes, arches, nipples, armpits, down low region, and aft. Get it once and you will understand.

Well, I ran my last long run this Saturday. 21 miles of fun loving pain. It was 31 degrees when I started and 44 when I ended so I took off one upper layer during the run. I had running pants and a sweatshirt in addition to my normal clothes. Just unseasonably cool. I have ran 18 miles a couple times before this but 21 is a whole new game,IMO. I am glad I did it because it will help me on race day. I hit the wall at 17.5 miles. Both of my hammies tightened up and it was straight guts from that point on. I had to fight mentally but I did it. I finished in 3 hours and 32 minutes. I am just afraid that that is going to be my marathon time. Somewhere just over 10 minutes a mile. Oh well.

I was supposed to run Monday, Tuesday, Wed, Friday this week but a horrible cold/flu has had me staying at home from work the last 2 days. No good. Perhaps I will be able to make one of those runs up but I just feel like crap. I will make it tommorow morning but it won't be fun.

So I have 2 1/2 weeks beofre the Chicago Marathon on October 7th. Hopefully I feel better soon.

 
Wow. Leave town for five nights, and you really miss a lot around here. Sid, Darrin, 2Young2BBald, Rock (and anyone else I missed)--you all should be very proud of yourselves for some great individual efforts. You too, Furley, even though you did get beat by a 9-year-old! And tri-man, again, I'm still flabbergasted that you drove all the way from Chicago to Green Bay for a 5-K run. Very cool.

2Young, it's funny you mention the Hanson-Brooks story in Runner's World. One of their runners, Dot McMahan, was a high school classmate of mine, and she'll be running in the women's Olympic marathon trials next April in Boston. Sounds like their group is doing some good things.

Like I said before, I did a couple of easy 30-minute runs in Cancun, and I came back and did another easy 4-miler this morning. I think I might do another 6- or 7-mile run when I get home tonight, and then just a couple more 4- or 5-milers before my half marathon on Sunday morning. I'm hoping to break 1:30 on Sunday, which would be a fairly significant improvement over my current PR of 1:32:41. Judging from my 3:10 marathon this spring, I know that I'm physically capable of doing it, but I really haven't been "feeling it" lately, so pacing will definitely be the key (as is usually the case). I'll need to average about 6:52/mile, so I'm going to try (operative word) to keep my first couple of miles between 7-7:10 and go from there. I started my last half marathon with a couple of splits around 6:35, and it was the death of me.

My only gripe is that I get back from vacation in Cancun expecting crisp, cool workout weather, and intead I get the same hot, humid weather I thought I'd left behind. :thumbup:

 
I have a separate heart rate monitor so on the long runs I kind of look like Inspector Gadget with two watches, a fuel belt, a chest strap and a trench coat
This is too funny. :( I don't use a HRM, but between my Garmin, Fuel Belt, mp3 player, sunglasses, and headband, I definitely look like a total geek when I head out for my longer runs. :lmao:

 
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Makes me feel convinced to join one of the pacing groups for the race just to keep myself honest.
I absolutely, positively, 100% recommend doing this. I think that my pace group leader had a lot to do with my Boston qualifier this past spring in Green Bay.
 
Running shorts with the insert are the bomb, and I have never needed to apply any lube to my junk. My nips always get covered with New Skin if I'm running more than 7 miles.
Running shorts (with the inner brief) are essential for anything longer than a couple of miles. I still remember when I was a running "newby" and showed up for a marathon training group wearing basketball shorts, only to have one of the more experienced runners tell me that I really needed to get some running shorts. I didn't even know that there was such a thing. My personal favorite is the ASICS R/D 7" Pocketed Short.I still use Body Glide on my inner thighs (TMI, I know), armpits, nips, etc. For anything over an hour, I usually use NipGuards (an alternative to New-Skin or band-aids).

 
Makes me feel convinced to join one of the pacing groups for the race just to keep myself honest.
I absolutely, positively, 100% recommend doing this. I think that my pace group leader had a lot to do with my Boston qualifier this past spring in Green Bay.
Your report on GreenBay put the idea into my head... thanks for that!And is your 1/2 PR time really 1:32:41?! ... :goodposting: ... EXACTLY the same as mine!
 

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