Ran a 10k in June (3 Viewers)

[beer 302]

Definitely count treadmill mileage, forward is a pace.

So I put together a pretty solid string of training days and wouldn't you know it, on day 3 I managed to grub on the trail and bang up my bad knee. I've logged over 3000 miles since I started running for real and haven't had any problems with the knee until now. Old football knee that doesn't respond well to being fallen upon, fills with fluid and takes a week or two to subside. I can't catch a ####### break.

 

[FUBAR]

This may seem like sacrilege, but how many of you who have treadmills or use them at the gyms count the treadmill mileage towards their training mileage?

Haven't run on a treadmill since Afghanistan, but I would include it.

I include my bike trainer - but I'm having a difficult time figuring out just how far I've "gone"

Treadmill I count mileage. Trainer I just chalk it up as if I was going 20mph and figure that is close enough.

That's what I've been doing, though it seems inaccurate.

I've just started watching my heart rate on the trainer, and I'm struggling to get over 130. I haven't really biked since October, so that likely is a huge part of the issue, but it seems my leg strength on the bike is weaker than my heart, while my heart is weaker than my running legs. Am I overthinking this?

Swam today, 2.2M for an hour. Did 2 sets of 5 x 50 swim golf. Question for the swimmers: is it better in training to have a 0:39 time with 34 strokes, or a :42 time with 31 strokes? It's the same score, but it would seem the faster time is better. While trying to elongate my stroke I got the slower time; swimming with a comfortable stroke got me the faster time but more strokes. Wasn't really burning it down either way, but probably a 3 on the effort scale (out of 5)

 

[Sand]

This may seem like sacrilege, but how many of you who have treadmills or use them at the gyms count the treadmill mileage towards their training mileage?

Haven't run on a treadmill since Afghanistan, but I would include it.

I include my bike trainer - but I'm having a difficult time figuring out just how far I've "gone"

Treadmill I count mileage. Trainer I just chalk it up as if I was going 20mph and figure that is close enough.

That's what I've been doing, though it seems inaccurate.

I've just started watching my heart rate on the trainer, and I'm struggling to get over 130. I haven't really biked since October, so that likely is a huge part of the issue, but it seems my leg strength on the bike is weaker than my heart, while my heart is weaker than my running legs. Am I overthinking this?

Swam today, 2.2M for an hour. Did 2 sets of 5 x 50 swim golf. Question for the swimmers: is it better in training to have a 0:39 time with 34 strokes, or a :42 time with 31 strokes? It's the same score, but it would seem the faster time is better. While trying to elongate my stroke I got the slower time; swimming with a comfortable stroke got me the faster time but more strokes. Wasn't really burning it down either way, but probably a 3 on the effort scale (out of 5)

Don't fall into the "longer is better" hype. Faster is better. What you are after is efficiency. For you that faster rate is more efficient. If you kept speeding it up you'd find a breaking point on that side, as well.

 

[jb1020]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garmin-Forerunner-310XT-w-Heart-Rate-Monitor-/321285769418?

Hey so this is a pretty good deal if you're looking

Amazon has it for $17 more.

I like that you can use it in the water, but would I be better off holding out for a better GPS unit? Great price, but the 305 is working for now.

310 is pretty useless in the water. If you really want that get the 910. The next tri watch should be coming along soon, as well.

I bought the one off of Amazon on Friday night. I'm upgrading from the 305. My 305 works great as far s gathering the data. My issue has been uploading the data. It constantly gets hung up.

I was trying to convince myself to go with the 220, but I doesn't have any bike functions on it...not that I bike much at all, but still that seems like a major omission.

 

[Sand]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garmin-Forerunner-310XT-w-Heart-Rate-Monitor-/321285769418?

Hey so this is a pretty good deal if you're looking

Amazon has it for $17 more.

I like that you can use it in the water, but would I be better off holding out for a better GPS unit? Great price, but the 305 is working for now.

310 is pretty useless in the water. If you really want that get the 910. The next tri watch should be coming along soon, as well.

I bought the one off of Amazon on Friday night. I'm upgrading from the 305. My 305 works great as far s gathering the data. My issue has been uploading the data. It constantly gets hung up.

I was trying to convince myself to go with the 220, but I doesn't have any bike functions on it...not that I bike much at all, but still that seems like a major omission.

Don't get me wrong, the 310 is awesome - I've had mine for quite a while. It was billed to be water capable and really just isn't. The 910 is much more capable in open water and in the pool (the 310 has no pool functionality, the 910 has lots).

That said, the 310 is a superb running/biking/triathlon watch. I have used it for running and biking for a couple years now.

 

[FUBAR]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garmin-Forerunner-310XT-w-Heart-Rate-Monitor-/321285769418?

Hey so this is a pretty good deal if you're looking

Amazon has it for $17 more.

I like that you can use it in the water, but would I be better off holding out for a better GPS unit? Great price, but the 305 is working for now.

310 is pretty useless in the water. If you really want that get the 910. The next tri watch should be coming along soon, as well.

I bought the one off of Amazon on Friday night. I'm upgrading from the 305. My 305 works great as far s gathering the data. My issue has been uploading the data. It constantly gets hung up.

I was trying to convince myself to go with the 220, but I doesn't have any bike functions on it...not that I bike much at all, but still that seems like a major omission.

Don't get me wrong, the 310 is awesome - I've had mine for quite a while. It was billed to be water capable and really just isn't. The 910 is much more capable in open water and in the pool (the 310 has no pool functionality, the 910 has lots).

That said, the 310 is a superb running/biking/triathlon watch. I have used it for running and biking for a couple years now.

If it's not good in the pool, what's the true advantage over the 305?

 

[spreagle]

This may seem like sacrilege, but how many of you who have treadmills or use them at the gyms count the treadmill mileage towards their training mileage?

Treadmills have their place. I like to stick the treadmill at a 8+ mph and 1.0 incline then just keep running at that pace until I can't keep going. It forces you to maintain the pace, plus settings are perfectly repeatable so you can see if you are improving or falling off. All that should count for something.

 

[Sand]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garmin-Forerunner-310XT-w-Heart-Rate-Monitor-/321285769418?

Hey so this is a pretty good deal if you're looking

Amazon has it for $17 more.

I like that you can use it in the water, but would I be better off holding out for a better GPS unit? Great price, but the 305 is working for now.

310 is pretty useless in the water. If you really want that get the 910. The next tri watch should be coming along soon, as well.

I bought the one off of Amazon on Friday night. I'm upgrading from the 305. My 305 works great as far s gathering the data. My issue has been uploading the data. It constantly gets hung up.

I was trying to convince myself to go with the 220, but I doesn't have any bike functions on it...not that I bike much at all, but still that seems like a major omission.

Don't get me wrong, the 310 is awesome - I've had mine for quite a while. It was billed to be water capable and really just isn't. The 910 is much more capable in open water and in the pool (the 310 has no pool functionality, the 910 has lots).

That said, the 310 is a superb running/biking/triathlon watch. I have used it for running and biking for a couple years now.

If it's not good in the pool, what's the true advantage over the 305?

Significantly longer battery life

Better GPS

Waterproof

Bike functions (power)

Triathlon functions

And I'm sure there are others.

 

[FUBAR]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garmin-Forerunner-310XT-w-Heart-Rate-Monitor-/321285769418?

Hey so this is a pretty good deal if you're looking

Amazon has it for $17 more.

I like that you can use it in the water, but would I be better off holding out for a better GPS unit? Great price, but the 305 is working for now.

310 is pretty useless in the water. If you really want that get the 910. The next tri watch should be coming along soon, as well.

I bought the one off of Amazon on Friday night. I'm upgrading from the 305. My 305 works great as far s gathering the data. My issue has been uploading the data. It constantly gets hung up.

I was trying to convince myself to go with the 220, but I doesn't have any bike functions on it...not that I bike much at all, but still that seems like a major omission.

Don't get me wrong, the 310 is awesome - I've had mine for quite a while. It was billed to be water capable and really just isn't. The 910 is much more capable in open water and in the pool (the 310 has no pool functionality, the 910 has lots).

That said, the 310 is a superb running/biking/triathlon watch. I have used it for running and biking for a couple years now.

If it's not good in the pool, what's the true advantage over the 305?

Significantly longer battery life

Better GPS

Waterproof

Bike functions (power)

Triathlon functions

And I'm sure there are others.

Battery life has been ok so far, although it's possible that it will die in an ultra or IM.

never had a problem with my 305, although I don't wear it in the water. Don't think it would matter if I did as I'm not looking at it. Although, seeing my "straight line" after a tri would be eye opening.

Power would come in handy.

So is it worth the $160? I'm cutting back a little on spending for January, but will have some extra $ in my budget later this spring.

 

[Sand]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garmin-Forerunner-310XT-w-Heart-Rate-Monitor-/321285769418?

Hey so this is a pretty good deal if you're looking

Amazon has it for $17 more.

I like that you can use it in the water, but would I be better off holding out for a better GPS unit? Great price, but the 305 is working for now.

310 is pretty useless in the water. If you really want that get the 910. The next tri watch should be coming along soon, as well.

I bought the one off of Amazon on Friday night. I'm upgrading from the 305. My 305 works great as far s gathering the data. My issue has been uploading the data. It constantly gets hung up.

I was trying to convince myself to go with the 220, but I doesn't have any bike functions on it...not that I bike much at all, but still that seems like a major omission.

Don't get me wrong, the 310 is awesome - I've had mine for quite a while. It was billed to be water capable and really just isn't. The 910 is much more capable in open water and in the pool (the 310 has no pool functionality, the 910 has lots).

That said, the 310 is a superb running/biking/triathlon watch. I have used it for running and biking for a couple years now.

If it's not good in the pool, what's the true advantage over the 305?

Significantly longer battery life

Better GPS

Waterproof

Bike functions (power)

Triathlon functions

And I'm sure there are others.

Battery life has been ok so far, although it's possible that it will die in an ultra or IM.

never had a problem with my 305, although I don't wear it in the water. Don't think it would matter if I did as I'm not looking at it. Although, seeing my "straight line" after a tri would be eye opening.

Power would come in handy.

So is it worth the $160? I'm cutting back a little on spending for January, but will have some extra $ in my budget later this spring.

I don't wear my 310 in the water, either (I keep in on the bike and snap it onto my wrist in T2). Your 305 will not last an IM. 310 was specifically designed to last - 20 hour battery life. The other real big difference is power. If battery life and power don't matter I don't see a huge driver to upgrade.

 

[FUBAR]

Thanks sand. I'll probably just wait and get a better one, but I do appreciate the advice.

Does anyone else have sports/exercise/nutrition new years resolutions?

I have two -

1. Stick to the real purpose of each workout. Whether that's recovery, MAF, etc. And take the rest portions in intervals as real rest.

2. Eat better. This is an ongoing process but I can do better. This year I aim to "intentionally, purposely snack" healthy stuff most of the time, I will allow some junk, but it will only be on occasion.

 

[gruecd]

This may seem like sacrilege, but how many of you who have treadmills or use them at the gyms count the treadmill mileage towards their training mileage?

I avoid treadmills like the plague, but in the rare event that I do run on the treadmill, I definitely count the mileage.

 

[worrierking]

Happy New Year guys. Thanks for all the support and advice in 2013. Finished the year with 2318 miles. Tapering now for Houston 1/19.

 

[gruecd]

Like Kobe, I haven't been posting much lately, but I've also been checking in to read every now and then, and all of the year-end reports have been great. I'm still dealing with the stupid hip flexor injury that's been nagging me since September, but my PT has given his blessing to try to run through it. Managed almost 50 miles last week with a 15-mile long run, so things are coming along. Did 8 miles this morning with temp at 0°F and wind chill at -14°F. Brrrrr....


2013 Year-end Report


Your goals coming into the year, and were they achieved? Ended last year with a bad Achilles. Managed to get that healed up, but spent this year dealing with an ITB issue and now the hip flexor. Grrr. Wanted to do yoga 2-3 times/week, and it was more like 1-1/2 times/week, but I'm headed in the right direction. I did manage to complete my first 50-miler, but I failed in my quest to re-qualify for Boston at Boston.

New accomplishments or PRs in 2013: Finished the Ice Age Trail 50M in May, but I did it with a bad ITB, so it was slow (9:59:18). Placed fourth overall with my 3-man relay team in the Fall 50, finishing close behind three five-person teams.

Your proudest and/or best race (or segment within a race): I guess finishing the 50-miler. I was close to dropping out after the initial 9-mile loop with the bad ITB, but I strapped it up and toughed it out. Lotsa walking in the last 20-mile segment, though.

A race disappointment during 2013: Tie between Boston and Erie. I failed to BQ at Boston (one of my big goals coming into the year), and then I traveled to Erie in September for another BQ attempt, and I DNFed at about 18 miles. It's been over two years since I've run a decent marathon.

Your most memorable workout or race for the year: Boston, but for all the wrong reasons.

Favorite “go to” workouts and/or routes: Any run with friends. One of my main running buddies was laid up for most of this year with injuries, so we didn't get to do much running together. I miss it.

Total training volume during 2013: 2,131 miles, down about 8% from 2,312 last year

Best memories of other guys’ training or races in 2013: Tri-man going marathon crazy this past fall

Oddest or funniest experiences (yours or one of the other guys): Annyong. Enough said.

Goal(s) for 2014: A lot of the same. Get healthy. BQ at Boston, which might be hard, because I'm going to be starting in the 4th corral with my invitational entry from John Hancock. Do yoga consistently 2-3 times/week. Strength train. Not sure yet what's on tap for the fall. Maybe do some kind of relay event with you crazy bastards.

Happy New Year, everybody!!

 

[beer 302]

Does anyone else have sports/exercise/nutrition new years resolutions?

1. Stay healthy, train smarter

2. Get down to 180 (or lower)

3. Run more

 

[jb1020]

I won't list my year in review, it was pathetic from a running stand point. Ran a half in November around the 2:16 mark, which was 33 minutes slower than my PR of 1:53. Jesus, thats painful to write. And that PR was only from May 2012. Only other race was a 5k which I ran in 26x, previous PR was 21:57.

Crazy year to say the least, ups and downs. Finally, back in a "groove."

Goals for the year.

1. 1200 miles running. That's small potatoes around here, but would be an accomplishment for me. But completely attainable.

2. Run a half in under 2 hours again. ( I get a shot at that 1/11/14, not getting my hopes up though).

3. Run another marathon, beating my only other time of 4:33 would be damn exciting at this point.

4. Participate in this thread more.

 

[FUBAR]

strange workout today. Not the workout itself, but the HR monitor.

Rode on the trainer for 45 minutes, let's call it 15 miles, HR stayed between 110-130 depending on the gear (I was doing intervals)

Got off, put on my running gear, walked for a couple minutes, and started at a slow pace (8:52), looked at the HR - 230. Average for the mile was 210. Miles 2 and 3 averaged 203 and 204 bpm, at a 9:20 pace. I don't question that it might have been a little higher than I'd expect due to the ride beforehand, but there's no way I'm averaging over 200 bpm for 3 miles, especially as easy as I was running. Mile 4, I decided to ignore the HR and go by feel, picking it up a little the last half mile - bpm fell to 186 average. I pushed mile 5 (first time I've pushed in a while), 6:37, at 180bpm. This was likely close to accurate, but why would the push make the monitor more accurate?

TOTAL for the year now

82S/1338B/825R

To put that in rough hours:

42S/70B/120R

Probably need to ride more. Honestly, this doesn't seem right. I took a little time down from running over the summer, but this only gives ~4 hrs per week. I know I did more than that.

 

[SteveC702]

[SIZE=medium]2013 Year-end Report[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium] [/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Your goals coming into the year, and were they achieved?[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]1) Sub-1:10 in the half-marathon and qualifying for the USA championships - no sub-1:10, but I begged my way into the race. Unfortunately the worst injury I've had since college forced a DNF.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]2) Sub-2:30 marathon and top 100 in Boston - no and no. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]New PRs or accomplishments in 2013:[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]53:27 for 10 miles. (split in a half-marathon). [/SIZE]

Weekly (rolling 7-day) mileage PR of 130.5

[SIZE=medium]Your proudest and/or best race (or segment within a race):[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium] Rock n' Roll Las Vegas Half-marathon. I think this was the race that let me know I finally got back to the level of fitness I had before the injury. I also took a giant leap of faith going out at a pace significantly faster than my PR-pace in an attempt to qualify for nationals and hung on and fought for every second after I bonked.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]A race disappointment during 2013:[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Boston 2013. Sigh... I think about this race at least 2-3 times a week while out running, and probably will until I cross the finish line in next year's Boston marathon.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Your most memorable workout or race for the year:[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]A little before 9 miles into the Rock n' Roll New Orleans half-marathon when a gorgeous brunette blew by me as I was going through a rough patch. I threw in a surge to stay with her, and apparently hung on long enough until we reached the next photo stop along the course before she pulled away. I then spent the next 4 miles watching the former Olympian fade into the horizon.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Favorite "go to" workout and/or routes:[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]I have this hilly 8.5 mile loop that I can tack on another 3-4 miles on that I run pretty much every morning now. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Total training volume during 2013:[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium] [/SIZE]Looks like it's going to be 2626 miles after my afternoon run in a couple of hours.

[SIZE=medium]Best memories of other guys' training or races in 2013:[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Bnb's 100-miler. (especially on the amount of training he had)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Grue finishing that 50-miler with the ITBS issues, especially when I was dealing with the same #### at the same time and couldn't get through a 5K.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Duck barely getting the WS lottery qualifier after hanging on for hours in his 50. Redlining it for a few miles of a half-marathon is one thing, I can't imagine pushing at your threshold for that long.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Ned, Hang10, and Worrieking's PR halfs.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Tri-man's triple marathons this fall.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Juxt's Army-10.[/SIZE]

Fubar's 7-minute planks. My PT told me to do more of this and I still can't get past 2 minutes after months of on-and-off training.

[SIZE=medium]Oddest, unusual, or funniest experiences of the year (yours or one of the other guys):[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium] Doing some strides before the USA half championships, stopping to stretch after my last one and have Meb Keflezighi run by me. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Goal(s) for 2014:[/SIZE]

Sub-2:30 marathon / Finish top 100 in Boston.

Qualify for 2015 USA Half-marathon championships.

No major injuries and 4000+ miles.

Run my first ultra. (yes I have one in mind, yes you have to wait until it's closer to the race, no it's not a 50K, no it's not a 100-miler).

Win a marathon without getting photo bombed at the finish this time.

 

[Juxtatarot]

This may seem like sacrilege, but how many of you who have treadmills or use them at the gyms count the treadmill mileage towards their training mileage?

Treadmills have their place. I like to stick the treadmill at a 8+ mph and 1.0 incline then just keep running at that pace until I can't keep going. It forces you to maintain the pace, plus settings are perfectly repeatable so you can see if you are improving or falling off. All that should count for something.

I save going all out for races, but treadmills are great for tempo runs. No excuses: no complaining about the suck index, the wind, hills, missing splits because you're not paying close attention, etc. After warm up, just set it and go. Although I like to inch it faster as I go along.

Had one of these tempos this afternoon. 5 miles averaging a hair above 6:30 pace. Nice finish to the year!

Happy New Year everyone!

 

[Juxtatarot]

This was likely close to accurate, but why would the push make the monitor more accurate?

A lot of times my HR data is off for the first mile or two. There are a lot of things that can throw a heart rate monitor off -- something to do with tech shirts, dry weather, not sweating enough, etc. Can you view your heart rate data in a graph? When I look at mine this way, it's obvious when the data is bad because I can see where it suddenly plummets even though my effort is the same.

 

[SFBayDuck]

[SIZE=medium]2013 Year-end Report[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Goal(s) for 2014:[/SIZE]

Run my first ultra. (yes I have one in mind, yes you have to wait until it's closer to the race, no it's not a 50K, no it's not a 100-miler).

The ultra bug continues to spread!

And I'm amazed looking at what you did this year. It's pretty cool to have a runner of your caliber hanging around these parts.

 

[FUBAR]

This was likely close to accurate, but why would the push make the monitor more accurate?

A lot of times my HR data is off for the first mile or two. There are a lot of things that can throw a heart rate monitor off -- something to do with tech shirts, dry weather, not sweating enough, etc. Can you view your heart rate data in a graph? When I look at mine this way, it's obvious when the data is bad because I can see where it suddenly plummets even though my effort is the same.

This had happened before, but it always worked itself out after a mile. This lasted 3.5-4

 

[tri-man 47]

This was likely close to accurate, but why would the push make the monitor more accurate?

A lot of times my HR data is off for the first mile or two. There are a lot of things that can throw a heart rate monitor off -- something to do with tech shirts, dry weather, not sweating enough, etc. Can you view your heart rate data in a graph? When I look at mine this way, it's obvious when the data is bad because I can see where it suddenly plummets even though my effort is the same.

I never have trouble with the HR monitor at the start ...I do give the sensors a good lick on the back part of my tongue so its moistened from the get-go. Wonder if that's why.

Happy New Year, guys! I just submitted my doctoral dissertation (all 156 pages of it). Just gotta defend the thing and get it formally filed. Then I get a big chunk of my life back as I start a new year.

 

[FUBAR]

Awesome tri!

 

[bentley]

I'm sure that's quite a relief tri. Well done. Happy New Year everyone!

Finished my year with 4.15 miles today @ 7:35 pace.

 

[MAC_32]

Does anyone else have sports/exercise/nutrition new years resolutions?.

limit bad eating and drinking to special occasions only. Never miss run number five per week. Stay more disciplined with strength training. If I have to do two a days so be it.HAPPY NEW YEAR, FELLOW CRAZIES

 

[Prince Myshkin]

Does anyone else have sports/exercise/nutrition new years resolutions?

I'm going to focus on drinking more water. I've gotten really bad about drinking water right after a workout, but not much throughout the day. I need to decide on a quantitative goal (I don't have much luck with goals that just say do "more"), but I really haven't been able to come up with a good number yet.

 

[Ned]

Happy New Years, fellas!

I've barely been running, but working hard on planks and push-ups. I did manage a decent 6/4 tempo run today @ 7:17. This is the second lowest total mileage I've logged for December @ 91mi. 1,965 for the year.

I'm plateaued at the 90sec planks. I can't seem to get past that number, so I've stuck with doing 90 seconds for the past few days. Finished up W2D3 on the 100 push-ups challenge. I will take test #1 either tomorrow or Thursday depending on the alcohol intake tonight. Hoping to hit 30.

 

[beer 302]

Http://192.227.164.175:8080

Across The Years Ultra with Yiannis Kouros in the lead for the 6 day event. You want some ultra?

 

[SFBayDuck]

#### just got real.

Pine to Palm - 100 Miles
September 13, 2014 - Williams, ORSean Grove is now registered for the 2014 Pine to Palm 100m! If you want to join, signup now at UltraSignup.

 

[FUBAR]

#### just got real.

Pine to Palm - 100 Miles
September 13, 2014 - Williams, ORSean Grove is now registered for the 2014 Pine to Palm 100m! If you want to join, signup now at UltraSignup.

At first I was like "who is Sean Grove"? Is he famous?

That looks awesome. May have to add to my bucket list; but I think a 50M trail will suffice for 2015.

 

[tri-man 47]

#### just got real.

Pine to Palm - 100 Miles
September 13, 2014 - Williams, ORSean Grove is now registered for the 2014 Pine to Palm 100m! If you want to join, signup now at UltraSignup.

100 miles will be rather difficult, but at least the state of Oregon in extremely flat! Oh, wait ...

Congrats! This means, of course, that none of us can whine about difficult fall races since you'll be running 100 friggin' miles.

 

[SteveC702]

#### just got real.





Pine to Palm - 100 Miles
September 13, 2014 - Williams, OR
Sean Grove is now registered for the 2014 Pine to Palm 100m! If you want to join, signup now at UltraSignup.

100 miles will be rather difficult, but at least the state of Oregon in extremely flat! Oh, wait ...

Congrats! This means, of course, that none of us can whine about difficult fall races since you'll be running 100 friggin' miles.

Haha yeah, I realized that I signed up for my 3rd marathon of 2014 around the same time you signed up for the 100. Coincidentally, the total mileage for my key races that I have per-registered for in 2014 now total 100 miles as well... spread out across 9 months and 5 races. (3 fulls, 1 half, and a 15K)

For anyone looking for a small/medium-sized early fall marathon. The US Air Force Marathon (Saturday 9/20 in Dayton, Ohio, ) has a new year's resolution discount ($10 off their lowest prices) good until midnight eastern time today. I think PatriotJohn said he wanted to run this thing? Not sure if he's signed up yet so I am just throwing this out there. If enough of you midwest folks can make it that would be awesome if we can do a pre-race dinner/get together nearby as well.

 

[2Young2BBald]

Happy New Year Guys. I've been insanely busy with work and family, but have been keeping up here as a lurker. Sitting here suffering with a typical New Year hangover and watching The Wings play outdoor, so I thought I'd get to my write up.

2013 Year-end Report



Your goals coming into the year, and were they achieved?

Training for and finishing the 5K swim was the biggie. I hit all my milestone swims, and annual mileage total in excess of 100 miles swam and did the 5K. Sand, thanks for the props to me on this in your write up. Your help and support was a huge component in me making this huge goal a reality.

New PRs or accomplishments in 2013:

Two and they were both 5Ks. 5K run (first leg of a run/kayak Du) 21:43 & 5K swim 1:58:11

Your proudest and/or best race (or segment within a race):

Any pride I have in what I accomplished this year pales in comparison to the pride I have in what my son did this year in track & XC (and what an amazing team mate he is)

A race disappointment during 2013:

Not a biggie, but major storms rolled though in three waves the night before a kayak/bike/run event knocking out power and keeping me up all night. I was dead tired even before the event began. In the end, I missed podium by one spot by only a few seconds. Just a bit more in the tank would likely have got me there.

Your most memorable workout or race for the year:

Crossing the 3rd of 5 lakes in the 5K swim, this lake had no cottage on it and was ringed by trees. The water was like glass and the reflection of the trees was incredible. By this time there were not may swimmers behind me. At one point I rolled to my back to look behind me and saw the wake I was cutting. It was almost an out of body type experience where I was amazed it was me there doing what I was doing.

Favorite "go to" workout and/or routes:

Not having a plan and doing what I feel like, I suppose and, any running on dirt.

Total training volume during 2013:

102.51 miles saw, 439.53 miles rode , 496.78 miles ran and 68.49 miles kayaked. Plus all kinds of strength and core.

Best memories of other guys' training or races in 2013:

Memories that are continuing right into 2014, all of you that have the stones to go long (very long). This thread has been my inspiration to doing some things I would have never thought possible and its cool to see you all doing the same.

Oddest, unusual, or funniest experiences of the year (yours or one of the other guys):

There was a team for Dances With Dirt, The Porn Stars, that did the entire 100K wearing only a gold banana hammock and a gold star costume, while pounding beers the entire race.

Goal(s) for 2014:

Battle of Waterloo, the 10 leg survival tri is my biggie for this year. I'd also like to target a century ride. While this might not seem like a big one, my two longest rides ever have been the bike legs of the two 1/2 IMs I've done. I also want to start working on a bit of swim speed when I get back in the pool the week after next. The is a local indoor tri in April I am thinking about doing and would like to try and hammer the swim. More importantly, my son has it in his head that he wants to be a state qualifier in either track or XC (or both) and I want to doing everything in my power to help get him there (while being careful not to smother and over do things).

 

[SFBayDuck]

#### just got real.

Pine to Palm - 100 Miles
September 13, 2014 - Williams, ORSean Grove is now registered for the 2014 Pine to Palm 100m! If you want to join, signup now at UltraSignup.

At first I was like "who is Sean Grove"? Is he famous?

That looks awesome. May have to add to my bucket list; but I think a 50M trail will suffice for 2015.

That's funny, I didn't think about that. I'm FB friends with a few of you so know your names, but others I have no idea. And a couple of you that I am friends with on FB I get confused sometimes on which screen name here matches up!

As for famous, no not at all, but it reminds me of one of my favorite moments from Christmas - my ex-wife and daughter went to my local running store to buy me a gift certificate, one that is owned/managed by 3 elite-level ultra guys. When I opened the gift certificate on xmas, my 10-year old daughter said "the guy at the store asked who it was for, and when we told him he said he knew you." She thought that was pretty cool....but probably not as much as I did!

 

[SFBayDuck]

#### just got real.

Pine to Palm - 100 Miles
September 13, 2014 - Williams, ORSean Grove is now registered for the 2014 Pine to Palm 100m! If you want to join, signup now at UltraSignup.

100 miles will be rather difficult, but at least the state of Oregon in extremely flat! Oh, wait ...

Congrats! This means, of course, that none of us can whine about difficult fall races since you'll be running 100 friggin' miles.

A few details from the website:

Course:A remote and rugged classic point to point course traversing the Siskiyou; Mountains Range in Southern Oregon. Starting in Williams, OR the course winds it way east to Ashland, OR on a mixture of single track trail, dirt road, with less than 4 miles of pavement. The course boasts over 20,000ft of climb and 20,000 ft of loss with 3 epic climbs to 7,000ft and fantastic views of Mt Shasta and Mt McLaughlin.

Time Limit:Runners will have 34 hours to complete the race. Aid station cutoffs are as follows:

Seattle Bar - 2pm, Squaw Lakes outbound - 6:30pm, Hanley Gap outbound - 9:30pm and Dutchman Peak - 2am.

Nothing like a 5,000' climb over 10 miles to start a 100 mile day. I mean days, as I have a feeling I'm going to need every minute of those 34 hours. My friend Erika, who this year finished 11th at WS100 and won Rio del Lago 100M told me that this race scares her - that means it should terrify me. And it does.

 

[MAC_32]

Gotta say, there is no run better than one that is half on icy sidewalks and the rest in foot plus snow drifts. Hello, 2014!

 

[beer 302]

Congrat's Duck, way to step up!

 

[tri-man 47]

Gotta say, there is no run better than one that is half on icy sidewalks and the rest in foot plus snow drifts. Hello, 2014!

Chicago's sitting square in the middle of a multi-state band of daylong snowfall ...heading out to highstep a few miles in a little bit. Couldn't get out earlier ..my daughter fell on some ice last night and broke a bone near her elbow, so we were dealing with that.

--

2Young - you deserve more props for your 5K swim. Sorry I neglected that one! I guess it was: Ho-hum, another wild 2Young adventure.

Anyway:

 

[Prince Myshkin]

Nothing like a 5,000' climb over 10 miles to start a 100 mile day.

Ah, but the next 20 miles will be cake!!!

You are one crazy mf'er!

 

[FUBAR]

Gotta say, there is no run better than one that is half on icy sidewalks and the rest in foot plus snow drifts. Hello, 2014!

sorry man. If it helps, it's 50 degrees here. But I wanted to ride early (it was just 40) so it was bike trainer in the garage. I haven't quite warmed up to the idea of riding outside sub 50s.

 

[Sand]

Gotta say, there is no run better than one that is half on icy sidewalks and the rest in foot plus snow drifts. Hello, 2014!

sorry man. If it helps, it's 50 degrees here. But I wanted to ride early (it was just 40) so it was bike trainer in the garage. I haven't quite warmed up to the idea of riding outside sub 50s.

My limit is 40. But it was sub 40 until well after lunch today. So it will be a trainer ride later.

 

[bentley]

In the fifties here. I ran 3.6 today to shake off the hangover and start the year off right.

 

[FUBAR]

Gotta say, there is no run better than one that is half on icy sidewalks and the rest in foot plus snow drifts. Hello, 2014!

sorry man. If it helps, it's 50 degrees here. But I wanted to ride early (it was just 40) so it was bike trainer in the garage. I haven't quite warmed up to the idea of riding outside sub 50s.

My limit is 40. But it was sub 40 until well after lunch today. So it will be a trainer ride later.

How does your face do with low 40s and the wind?

 

[MAC_32]

Gotta say, there is no run better than one that is half on icy sidewalks and the rest in foot plus snow drifts. Hello, 2014!

sorry man. If it helps, it's 50 degrees here. But I wanted to ride early (it was just 40) so it was bike trainer in the garage. I haven't quite warmed up to the idea of riding outside sub 50s.

don't apologize, I love these runs.

 

[Sand]

Gotta say, there is no run better than one that is half on icy sidewalks and the rest in foot plus snow drifts. Hello, 2014!

sorry man. If it helps, it's 50 degrees here. But I wanted to ride early (it was just 40) so it was bike trainer in the garage. I haven't quite warmed up to the idea of riding outside sub 50s.

My limit is 40. But it was sub 40 until well after lunch today. So it will be a trainer ride later.

How does your face do with low 40s and the wind?

Sucks, but as long as I can keep my ears, hands, and feet warm I'm ok. Ears and hands are easy - darn feet are tough to keep warm. Glasses are a must to keep the eyes clear - otherwise they'll water and I can't see a darn thing.

 

[Hang 10]

#### just got real.

Pine to Palm - 100 Miles
September 13, 2014 - Williams, ORSean Grove is now registered for the 2014 Pine to Palm 100m! If you want to join, signup now at UltraSignup.

100 miles will be rather difficult, but at least the state of Oregon in extremely flat! Oh, wait ...

Congrats! This means, of course, that none of us can whine about difficult fall races since you'll be running 100 friggin' miles.

A few details from the website:

Course:A remote and rugged classic point to point course traversing the Siskiyou; Mountains Range in Southern Oregon. Starting in Williams, OR the course winds it way east to Ashland, OR on a mixture of single track trail, dirt road, with less than 4 miles of pavement. The course boasts over 20,000ft of climb and 20,000 ft of loss with 3 epic climbs to 7,000ft and fantastic views of Mt Shasta and Mt McLaughlin.

Time Limit:Runners will have 34 hours to complete the race. Aid station cutoffs are as follows:

Seattle Bar - 2pm, Squaw Lakes outbound - 6:30pm, Hanley Gap outbound - 9:30pm and Dutchman Peak - 2am.

Nothing like a 5,000' climb over 10 miles to start a 100 mile day. I mean days, as I have a feeling I'm going to need every minute of those 34 hours. My friend Erika, who this year finished 11th at WS100 and won Rio del Lago 100M told me that this race scares her - that means it should terrify me. And it does.

That's insane. Not sure I want anything more ultra than a 50K. Can't even wrap my mind around what that race must be like.

 

[Sand]

Can't even wrap my mind around what that race must be like.

The zombie apocalypse comes to mind.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Had to run in ski goggles because it was blowing snow like crazy and it was 6 degrees. Bought these for winter running and I love them. Grip is perfect for snow. But then again I run in the supernova glide 5 so they are perfect for me.

 

[Ned]

Can't even wrap my mind around what that race must be like.

The zombie apocalypse comes to mind.

I'd be one of the zombies by mile 30.