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Ran a 10k in June (2 Viewers)
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Ned
Footballguy
Home from our annual DE Marathon relay with the family and had a blast. My wife, sister, brother and I have been running this for 3 years now. The girls ran great (1:10 for each), but my brother not so much (1:18 I think). It was a bit warm, but I felt fantastic today. Came in at 46:17 (7:04 pace).
I sanded the hell out of it after getting the handoff. I looked down at my watch and saw 5:11 pace at the quarter mile mark
I chilled out after that and paced it well. I decided to just let the HR stay under 185 until mile 5 and then let's rip. In hind sight I probably could've pressed that to 186ish, but I didn't think my fitness was there to handle that.
There's some solid hills at mile 3, 4, and 6 but felt good pacing through them. Splits were 6:49, 7:12, 7:41, 7:35, 6:57, 7:07, and 6:10 for last .55. The finish is soooooooo much fun with a huge downhill. The kids get a kick out of seeing you coming full tilt around the corner.
My fitness is slowly coming back.
I sanded the hell out of it after getting the handoff. I looked down at my watch and saw 5:11 pace at the quarter mile mark
I chilled out after that and paced it well. I decided to just let the HR stay under 185 until mile 5 and then let's rip. In hind sight I probably could've pressed that to 186ish, but I didn't think my fitness was there to handle that.There's some solid hills at mile 3, 4, and 6 but felt good pacing through them. Splits were 6:49, 7:12, 7:41, 7:35, 6:57, 7:07, and 6:10 for last .55. The finish is soooooooo much fun with a huge downhill. The kids get a kick out of seeing you coming full tilt around the corner.
My fitness is slowly coming back.
chauncey
Footballguy
Congrats Annyong.
Went for a canyon hike today and realized the gate closed in 90 minutes so decided to make it a run. Something manly and primal about running on a freaking trail, with the constant possibility of a rattler jumping out and ending you. Looking forward to more of these.
So my brother told me the other day he is going to take a break from work this summer and bike from Seattle back home to NC. I've never been more proud in my life to hear him say this. He rides a bit, doing his 2nd half IM at the end of the month so he is fully capable I guess. Anyone else here ever done anything like this? Also, I run but haven't ridden a bike since I was a kid. Is it reasonable for me to think I can join him for the entire ride or a good stretch of it without any experience at long distance riding?
Lastly, back to the Half IM, it is in Raleigh and I'm flying back to go with him and enjoy the festivities. We've been trying to figure out if it is possible for me to do the 13.1 with him as a non registered participant. I'm pretty sure IM frowns upon this and a lot of runners think very lowly of bandits, but he doesn't give a #### if he gets DQd or banned if I get caught and I don't really care either. He has his bib from last year I could put on and jump in to run with. I'd imagine this is considered very low class but I guess I'm looking for someone to say go for it. I'd love to add "The Bandit Half/Brother Half" to my list this year.
I'll hang up and listen.
Went for a canyon hike today and realized the gate closed in 90 minutes so decided to make it a run. Something manly and primal about running on a freaking trail, with the constant possibility of a rattler jumping out and ending you. Looking forward to more of these.
So my brother told me the other day he is going to take a break from work this summer and bike from Seattle back home to NC. I've never been more proud in my life to hear him say this. He rides a bit, doing his 2nd half IM at the end of the month so he is fully capable I guess. Anyone else here ever done anything like this? Also, I run but haven't ridden a bike since I was a kid. Is it reasonable for me to think I can join him for the entire ride or a good stretch of it without any experience at long distance riding?
Lastly, back to the Half IM, it is in Raleigh and I'm flying back to go with him and enjoy the festivities. We've been trying to figure out if it is possible for me to do the 13.1 with him as a non registered participant. I'm pretty sure IM frowns upon this and a lot of runners think very lowly of bandits, but he doesn't give a #### if he gets DQd or banned if I get caught and I don't really care either. He has his bib from last year I could put on and jump in to run with. I'd imagine this is considered very low class but I guess I'm looking for someone to say go for it. I'd love to add "The Bandit Half/Brother Half" to my list this year.
I'll hang up and listen.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
Paging wilked.Congrats Annyong.
Went for a canyon hike today and realized the gate closed in 90 minutes so decided to make it a run. Something manly and primal about running on a freaking trail, with the constant possibility of a rattler jumping out and ending you. Looking forward to more of these.
So my brother told me the other day he is going to take a break from work this summer and bike from Seattle back home to NC. I've never been more proud in my life to hear him say this. He rides a bit, doing his 2nd half IM at the end of the month so he is fully capable I guess. Anyone else here ever done anything like this? Also, I run but haven't ridden a bike since I was a kid. Is it reasonable for me to think I can join him for the entire ride or a good stretch of it without any experience at long distance riding?
Lastly, back to the Half IM, it is in Raleigh and I'm flying back to go with him and enjoy the festivities. We've been trying to figure out if it is possible for me to do the 13.1 with him as a non registered participant. I'm pretty sure IM frowns upon this and a lot of runners think very lowly of bandits, but he doesn't give a #### if he gets DQd or banned if I get caught and I don't really care either. He has his bib from last year I could put on and jump in to run with. I'd imagine this is considered very low class but I guess I'm looking for someone to say go for it. I'd love to add "The Bandit Half/Brother Half" to my list this year.
I'll hang up and listen.
FUBAR
Footballguy
I'll keep an eye out for the guy who gets arrestedCongrats Annyong.
Went for a canyon hike today and realized the gate closed in 90 minutes so decided to make it a run. Something manly and primal about running on a freaking trail, with the constant possibility of a rattler jumping out and ending you. Looking forward to more of these.
So my brother told me the other day he is going to take a break from work this summer and bike from Seattle back home to NC. I've never been more proud in my life to hear him say this. He rides a bit, doing his 2nd half IM at the end of the month so he is fully capable I guess. Anyone else here ever done anything like this? Also, I run but haven't ridden a bike since I was a kid. Is it reasonable for me to think I can join him for the entire ride or a good stretch of it without any experience at long distance riding?
Lastly, back to the Half IM, it is in Raleigh and I'm flying back to go with him and enjoy the festivities. We've been trying to figure out if it is possible for me to do the 13.1 with him as a non registered participant. I'm pretty sure IM frowns upon this and a lot of runners think very lowly of bandits, but he doesn't give a #### if he gets DQd or banned if I get caught and I don't really care either. He has his bib from last year I could put on and jump in to run with. I'd imagine this is considered very low class but I guess I'm looking for someone to say go for it. I'd love to add "The Bandit Half/Brother Half" to my list this year.
I'll hang up and listen.
Hang 10
Footballguy
Interesting that I ran the EXACT same time 3 weeks ago and also finished 3rd overall....out of 327.
Inaugural Starved Rock Country Half Marathon 5/10
1:40:39 (new PR by 10 minutes and 1 second)
34 of 849 overall / 7th in age group (Extremely hung Gentleman) / 1st Asian guy (I think)
My plan was to start out at just under an 8min pace and go from there. Well needless to say I felt pretty good and 1:45 was conservative and I knew I was gonna beat that.
Miles 1 (7:53) and 2 (7:51) were my test miles and spent most of that time weaving in and out of people. Annyong was feeling good at this point and the beef brisket sandwich from the night before wasnt giving me any problems.
Miles 3 and 4 I decided to pick it up and keep it under 7:50 and I came in right at 7:46 each and was still feeling strong.
Plan for miles 5 and 6 was to keep it under 7:45 (see a pattern here?) This was probably the first race where the crowd helped and motivated me. It was something I've never experienced before. Pretty cool to have complete strangers cheering you on. Also I started chasing some old ### dude at mile 5 who was in a bright orange shirt and way ahead of me. I was hunting him down and I was determined to catch him. These miles were 7:42 and 7:41
Miles 7-11 is where I really decided to pick it up.(7:34, 7:34, 7:17, 7:23) At this point I started thinking about someone here that said to not leave anything out on the course and it really helped to keep me focused. Also I'm pretty sure that old dude was messing with me towards mile 9, 10, and 11. This penisweed stopped and walked at 2 water stations and passing me twice before I finally snipered him at mile 11 and left him crying in my dust. Pretty sure I farted sometime around then. So that was cool.
Mile 12 is where I really started to crap the bed. (7:44) My legs felt like concrete and there was a tiny ### hill that I'm pretty made me it's #####. I just fought to keep this mile under 7:45 and then try my best to hammer my penis till the end.
Mile 13 (7:24) I was mentally feeling better, and I remembered that I get a free beer afterwards. More of a crowd around here and they were pretty enthusiastic which helped a lot. Something about little kids jumping up and down yelling "Go, Go Go!" was cool to see.
Last .2 (my watch had this course a little long) I knew my gf and 2 little boys were waiting for me near the finish line. My 2.5 year old was pretty excited to see his Dad run and I didnt want to look like a ding dong that jogs to the finish line so I burnt up whatever I had left and ran this at 6:40.
1:40:39 (new PR by 10 minutes and 1 second)
34 of 849 overall / 7th in age group (Extremely hung Gentleman) / 1st Asian guy (I think)
My plan was to start out at just under an 8min pace and go from there. Well needless to say I felt pretty good and 1:45 was conservative and I knew I was gonna beat that.
Miles 1 (7:53) and 2 (7:51) were my test miles and spent most of that time weaving in and out of people. Annyong was feeling good at this point and the beef brisket sandwich from the night before wasnt giving me any problems.
Miles 3 and 4 I decided to pick it up and keep it under 7:50 and I came in right at 7:46 each and was still feeling strong.
Plan for miles 5 and 6 was to keep it under 7:45 (see a pattern here?) This was probably the first race where the crowd helped and motivated me. It was something I've never experienced before. Pretty cool to have complete strangers cheering you on. Also I started chasing some old ### dude at mile 5 who was in a bright orange shirt and way ahead of me. I was hunting him down and I was determined to catch him. These miles were 7:42 and 7:41
Miles 7-11 is where I really decided to pick it up.(7:34, 7:34, 7:17, 7:23) At this point I started thinking about someone here that said to not leave anything out on the course and it really helped to keep me focused. Also I'm pretty sure that old dude was messing with me towards mile 9, 10, and 11. This penisweed stopped and walked at 2 water stations and passing me twice before I finally snipered him at mile 11 and left him crying in my dust. Pretty sure I farted sometime around then. So that was cool.
Mile 12 is where I really started to crap the bed. (7:44) My legs felt like concrete and there was a tiny ### hill that I'm pretty made me it's #####. I just fought to keep this mile under 7:45 and then try my best to hammer my penis till the end.
Mile 13 (7:24) I was mentally feeling better, and I remembered that I get a free beer afterwards. More of a crowd around here and they were pretty enthusiastic which helped a lot. Something about little kids jumping up and down yelling "Go, Go Go!" was cool to see.
Last .2 (my watch had this course a little long) I knew my gf and 2 little boys were waiting for me near the finish line. My 2.5 year old was pretty excited to see his Dad run and I didnt want to look like a ding dong that jogs to the finish line so I burnt up whatever I had left and ran this at 6:40.
Brony
Footballguy
FUBAR
Footballguy
I'm not in the market right now, but for those who are, Amazon is running a half off deal on Merrell trail shoes
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Hang 10
Footballguy
I'll take credit for this.
Go hard, son. Don't be coming in here post race and tell us how you left time out on the race course. If you want results you can be proud of then you need to be willing to push yourself farther than you think you can. NOW GO RUN YOUR PENIS OFF!
Also the correct answer is 3 beers.
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beer 302
Footballguy
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Why do you hate old ### dudes??? :finger:
Congrats, again, Annyong! A huge breakthrough race for you.
worrierking
Footballguy
Wow, I Missed a great weekend. Congrats to Annyong, that's an awesome improvement.
Duck, you continue to amaze.
Juxt, Tremendous. Enjoyed the report.
Duck, you continue to amaze.
Juxt, Tremendous. Enjoyed the report.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Is it reasonable? No. My concern becomes: What happens if you reach your limit several days into this?
Will he have a support team driving along the route (to help with emergency repairs, overnight arrangements, etc.)? You could still share the trip by serving as Sherpa for him, and I think that'd be a great experience for both of you.
As to the race banditing, I don't like that idea either!
Hang 10
Footballguy
Sand
Footballguy
Suck index of 150 for my run today (though I run on asphalt with zero shade, so likely worse).
That changed quick.
Ned
Footballguy
Hang 10
Footballguy
Depends who you ask.
Also, just bought a pair of saucony A5's. (if Steve wears them they just gots to be good).
FUBAR
Footballguy
FUBAR
Footballguy
Depends who you ask.
Also, just bought a pair of saucony A5's. (if Steve wears them they just gots to be good).
Love my Virratas and before that, the kenveras and Shay XC2.
Sand
Footballguy
I take that back. I don't have zero shade. In my five miles I get one tree. So I get :07 of shade.
But at least I have a place to run at lunch. Still better than the dreadmill. And I guarantee I lost weight today.
Ned
Footballguy
The segments are a super cool feature! I was just talking in general though.... When I drag my mouse over the course and a specific hill, it gives me the elevation grade. I'm seeing some sections that were 6-9%, which I thought anything above 5 was really steep. Now I'm not so sure. The few hills yesterday were challenging, but nothing that made you go "oh #### here they come".
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
I agree in that it's fairly accurate, more so on longer segments than shorter ones like Sand indicated.
I'd say you just need to recalibrate what you consider steep.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Sounds like a math problem. How long was the shadow, what time was it, where was it, what speed were you running...
chauncey
Footballguy
He would be doing the hippie thing, biking a designated route with camping/bike shops/diners/etc all planned ahead. I'm guessing 50-100 miles per day depending on area. No support team. My mom is terrified of this idea and I'll be a little concerned too but people do this everyday so I guess it is relatively safe.
I won't be banditing the IM, don't want to piss anyone off. I have heard of people running with friends/family for segments of marathons before, maybe they were just smaller events where the organizers didn't mind.
Ned
Footballguy
29%
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Sand
Footballguy
Small tree. Noon. It is the only bloody tree I have, so I know that it is close enough to give me a precious second or two of shade.
Oh yea, moving really ####### slow. That helps a lot.
Showoff. This is about as steep a sustained grade as I've done.
Ned, I don't know if I'd trust the decimated values, though on steady slopes they're quite good. Sometimes they can wiggle around a little bit.
Sand
Footballguy
With proper planning can be done. Worry most about some of the desolate areas - eastern Washington, etc. where it is a long way between stops.
Lots and lots of folks have done that northern crossing, though. So there is lots of info out there.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
So any merit in driving the route and being available for him? As a runner, you could run a new route every day as you wait for your brother to arrive. That alone would be really awesome. He rides 50-100, you run 5-10 ..share experiences at day's end and enjoy the paralleled journeys. But your call, of course. I just worry about your lack of biking experience.chauncey said:
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
2014 Cinderella Trail Marathon
I woke up, drank coffee, pooped, had a smoothie, pooped again, showered, and headed to the race (that part usually takes a paragraph or two for me, I'm trying to cut down on my word count).
This was a pretty mellow local race, with the associated 50K one of two going on within about 20 miles of each other on Saturday. Cinderella had the 50K, marathon, 30K, half, and a 5 mile run - all in all about 325 people with 25 doing the ultra, and 40 doing the marathon. As y'all know, I was treating this as a supported training run, but it's always fun to show up at an event and soak in the energy associated with it.
The plan was to test out a new nutrition strategy - 100-200 calories of UCAN superstarch per hour, a few bites of potato at aid stations, and no sugar at all. As a training run, I really wasn't worried about my time, but I did think if things went well I might have a 5:30:00 in me, without knowing a whole lot about the course other than what I had seen in the elevation profile.
From the start, I was having a little trouble with the UCAN - it was really grainy and didn't dissolve very well, I think the single-serving packets were meant for bigger bottles than I was carrying in my UD race vest. While it's not sweet, which was a nice change from typical sports drinks, it just wasn't good to drink. I could tell from the beginning that I was going to have a hard time getting two bottles down per hour, and looked forward to the first aid station so that I could dilute the bottles by adding more water to each.
The marathon was two loops of the half-marathon course, and other than some early conga lines where I was stuck behind 1/2 marathoners on semi-technical singletrack, the rest of the first loop was pretty uneventful. I was looking forward to the 2nd loop and going from 300 people to 70 people on the course, loosening things up a bit. This was the first time I haven't just used on-course nutrition, and that cost me a lot of time at the aid stations. I'd have to stop, take off my pack, get my bottles filled, empty packets of UCAN into them, shake them a bunch, put the pack back on, etc. While after the 3rd aid station I realized I could have the volunteers take the UCAN packs out of my pack and hand them to me, saving some time, I spent way more time in aid stations than usual.
The second loop started well, but I pretty quickly realized I just wasn't feeling it. Whether it was the lack of taper (I ran 4 times last week, including 5 miles on Friday), the change in nutrition, the relative heat (75 degrees), or a lack of conditioning, I just struggled for most of the 2nd loop. As we headed out I was chatting up a scientist chick running right around me for most of an hour at that point, and while discussing the nutritional experiment I was conducting and paying attention to the trail I apparently neglected to pay attention to my head space - and cracked my head against a tree branch hanging over the trail. I reached up and felt the blood dripping down my face, but couldn't see how bad it was. I knew that an aid station was coming soon, so I kept chugging until then and asked them to evaluate the severity of the cut - do I need stitches, or am I good to go? After cleaning it up and 4-5 different people looking at, the conclusion was that while it was 3"-4" long it wasn't too deep and that if I felt ok I should be able to go on. With 12 miles to go, I headed out to finish this thing. And so I just plugged along to the finish, running when I could, and hiking when I couldn't. The 2nd time up the big climb really took a lot out of me, but I will say that I was not passed on a climb all day, and after the first couple of miles was only passed once the entire race (other than at aid stations, and I always caught back up to whoever moved past me).
About a mile from the finish I came upon a guy struggling a bit, he stepped aside and let me pass saying he was having a tough patch, and told me to finish strong. I told him to try and stay with me and finish strong together, and he did for a bit before fading back a little. I ended up finishing about a minute ahead of him in 5:57:20, and afterward was chatting with him about how he has been placing well in his age group in local 1/2s and other trail runs when out of the blue I hear first my name, then his, announced as 2nd and 3rd in our age group! I've never even thought about my placing in any races. So while I was 2nd out of only five 40 year olds, and 13 out of 37 total in the marathon, it was still fun to get that AG medal for the first time ever.
So while my time was a bit of a disappointment, it was a good day on the trails. I have to continue to play with the nutrition aspect as while I never felt particularly low, something wasn't quite right in the 2nd half of the race. Between messing with that and getting punched in the forehead by a tree (it's just a flesh wound!), I probably wasted 10-15 minutes in aid stations. Again, not a big deal with my goals for the day, but a little frustrating nonetheless.
The best news is that while I've definitely had some soreness, I came out healthy and feeling pretty good. I just walked around town a bit yesterday, but today I went out for a very easy 5 miles of hiking and running with no signs of issues in past trouble spots (PF, achilles, IT). That speaks well of my ability to handle 6 hours of 6000' of vertical and come out feeling pretty good. But man do I feel like I have a long way to go as I train for this 100M in Sept....
Thanks for the kind words all - as everyone here knows the accountability, encouragement, and even #### talking of the FFA iFriends really does help.
I woke up, drank coffee, pooped, had a smoothie, pooped again, showered, and headed to the race (that part usually takes a paragraph or two for me, I'm trying to cut down on my word count).
This was a pretty mellow local race, with the associated 50K one of two going on within about 20 miles of each other on Saturday. Cinderella had the 50K, marathon, 30K, half, and a 5 mile run - all in all about 325 people with 25 doing the ultra, and 40 doing the marathon. As y'all know, I was treating this as a supported training run, but it's always fun to show up at an event and soak in the energy associated with it.
The plan was to test out a new nutrition strategy - 100-200 calories of UCAN superstarch per hour, a few bites of potato at aid stations, and no sugar at all. As a training run, I really wasn't worried about my time, but I did think if things went well I might have a 5:30:00 in me, without knowing a whole lot about the course other than what I had seen in the elevation profile.
From the start, I was having a little trouble with the UCAN - it was really grainy and didn't dissolve very well, I think the single-serving packets were meant for bigger bottles than I was carrying in my UD race vest. While it's not sweet, which was a nice change from typical sports drinks, it just wasn't good to drink. I could tell from the beginning that I was going to have a hard time getting two bottles down per hour, and looked forward to the first aid station so that I could dilute the bottles by adding more water to each.
The marathon was two loops of the half-marathon course, and other than some early conga lines where I was stuck behind 1/2 marathoners on semi-technical singletrack, the rest of the first loop was pretty uneventful. I was looking forward to the 2nd loop and going from 300 people to 70 people on the course, loosening things up a bit. This was the first time I haven't just used on-course nutrition, and that cost me a lot of time at the aid stations. I'd have to stop, take off my pack, get my bottles filled, empty packets of UCAN into them, shake them a bunch, put the pack back on, etc. While after the 3rd aid station I realized I could have the volunteers take the UCAN packs out of my pack and hand them to me, saving some time, I spent way more time in aid stations than usual.
The second loop started well, but I pretty quickly realized I just wasn't feeling it. Whether it was the lack of taper (I ran 4 times last week, including 5 miles on Friday), the change in nutrition, the relative heat (75 degrees), or a lack of conditioning, I just struggled for most of the 2nd loop. As we headed out I was chatting up a scientist chick running right around me for most of an hour at that point, and while discussing the nutritional experiment I was conducting and paying attention to the trail I apparently neglected to pay attention to my head space - and cracked my head against a tree branch hanging over the trail. I reached up and felt the blood dripping down my face, but couldn't see how bad it was. I knew that an aid station was coming soon, so I kept chugging until then and asked them to evaluate the severity of the cut - do I need stitches, or am I good to go? After cleaning it up and 4-5 different people looking at, the conclusion was that while it was 3"-4" long it wasn't too deep and that if I felt ok I should be able to go on. With 12 miles to go, I headed out to finish this thing. And so I just plugged along to the finish, running when I could, and hiking when I couldn't. The 2nd time up the big climb really took a lot out of me, but I will say that I was not passed on a climb all day, and after the first couple of miles was only passed once the entire race (other than at aid stations, and I always caught back up to whoever moved past me).
About a mile from the finish I came upon a guy struggling a bit, he stepped aside and let me pass saying he was having a tough patch, and told me to finish strong. I told him to try and stay with me and finish strong together, and he did for a bit before fading back a little. I ended up finishing about a minute ahead of him in 5:57:20, and afterward was chatting with him about how he has been placing well in his age group in local 1/2s and other trail runs when out of the blue I hear first my name, then his, announced as 2nd and 3rd in our age group! I've never even thought about my placing in any races. So while I was 2nd out of only five 40 year olds, and 13 out of 37 total in the marathon, it was still fun to get that AG medal for the first time ever.
So while my time was a bit of a disappointment, it was a good day on the trails. I have to continue to play with the nutrition aspect as while I never felt particularly low, something wasn't quite right in the 2nd half of the race. Between messing with that and getting punched in the forehead by a tree (it's just a flesh wound!), I probably wasted 10-15 minutes in aid stations. Again, not a big deal with my goals for the day, but a little frustrating nonetheless.
The best news is that while I've definitely had some soreness, I came out healthy and feeling pretty good. I just walked around town a bit yesterday, but today I went out for a very easy 5 miles of hiking and running with no signs of issues in past trouble spots (PF, achilles, IT). That speaks well of my ability to handle 6 hours of 6000' of vertical and come out feeling pretty good. But man do I feel like I have a long way to go as I train for this 100M in Sept....
Thanks for the kind words all - as everyone here knows the accountability, encouragement, and even #### talking of the FFA iFriends really does help.
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Congrats Duck. Relish that hardware!!!
While I enjoy your reading about your nutrition strategies, part of me wants to suggest going to the grocery store, filling a bag with food, and then head out to the trail for a run. I think you can teach your body to get by on what is available for the most part while crossing off some items it doesn't tolerate. This fall when your get to mile 80 and you smell bacon cooking in the distance what are you going to do? If I'm your stomach and brain and you feed me UCAN instead of bacon I'm going to give you a big middle finger. Back at mile 50 when it's 85 degrees out, you feel like a fried egg in the desert, and you are offered ice cream, the RD is probably going to send you to the medical tent for an evaluation when you say I'll pass on the ice cream but can you get 63.7 grams of UCAN from my drop bag.
While I enjoy your reading about your nutrition strategies, part of me wants to suggest going to the grocery store, filling a bag with food, and then head out to the trail for a run. I think you can teach your body to get by on what is available for the most part while crossing off some items it doesn't tolerate. This fall when your get to mile 80 and you smell bacon cooking in the distance what are you going to do? If I'm your stomach and brain and you feed me UCAN instead of bacon I'm going to give you a big middle finger. Back at mile 50 when it's 85 degrees out, you feel like a fried egg in the desert, and you are offered ice cream, the RD is probably going to send you to the medical tent for an evaluation when you say I'll pass on the ice cream but can you get 63.7 grams of UCAN from my drop bag.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Love your reports Duck! Let me know if you find yourself in the Carolinas in the next year. (I'll be moving after that)
beer 302
Footballguy
Ok Strava guru's, Ned mentioned you could find splits on here somehow since he was having the same issues I was with the TomTom watch. How?
http://www.strava.com/activities/140571988/overview
FUBAR, I'm in Fort Mill, SC and BrassNBrew is just a little north in the Lake Norman, NC area. You're in Raleigh, correct? We should cornhole a Deep Souf FBG race somewhere.
http://www.strava.com/activities/140571988/overview
FUBAR, I'm in Fort Mill, SC and BrassNBrew is just a little north in the Lake Norman, NC area. You're in Raleigh, correct? We should cornhole a Deep Souf FBG race somewhere.
FUBAR
Footballguy
South of Raleigh, Fort Bragg.
Sounds awesome. One possibility, which I'll plan to do next year: http://events.com/Lillington-North-Carolina/Health-Fitness/Run-the-Rock-Ultra-25K-50K?eid=52e9739507f0230e8c391356
Ned
Footballguy
They're giving you basic splits on the left hand side of the map...............
If you want detailed laps, you need to use the Run -> Training -> Laps function on your watch. Then there will be a separate tab on the left between 'Overview' and 'Segments'.
ETA: I just noticed this was your 8x800 intervals... You should've used the above function on your watch and set the laps to 0.5mi.
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Hang 10
Footballguy
Great job, Duck.
First track workout this morning in forever.
2 mile warmup and 2 sets of 4 x 400 w/ 1 minute RI (3 minutes between sets)
1:25 (181)
1:21 (185)
1:21 (187)
1:19 (188)
BREAK
1:22 (185)
1:21 (188)
1:21 (187)
1:20 (190)
Then it was time for some 4 x 200 w/ 45 second RI
:35(177)
:35 (184)
:35 (188)
:34 (186)
Is it too early for a beer? Pretty pleased with my times but that was harder than I thought it would be...already a sticky 75 degrees out there.
First track workout this morning in forever.
2 mile warmup and 2 sets of 4 x 400 w/ 1 minute RI (3 minutes between sets)
1:25 (181)
1:21 (185)
1:21 (187)
1:19 (188)
BREAK
1:22 (185)
1:21 (188)
1:21 (187)
1:20 (190)
Then it was time for some 4 x 200 w/ 45 second RI
:35(177)
:35 (184)
:35 (188)
:34 (186)
Is it too early for a beer? Pretty pleased with my times but that was harder than I thought it would be...already a sticky 75 degrees out there.
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parasaurolophus
Footballguy
2014 Ice Age trail Half Marathon report-
My first (real) trail race. Had no goals going into it other than to enjoy the day. Was running with a friend I hadn't seen in a while and he has been recovering from a lengthy injury. This was his longest run in 1.5 years.
I didnt really pay much attention to pacing or how the miles went. The first time I looked at my watch we were 4 miles in. It was a two loop course which at first I was annoyed with, but ended liking it as it was a very cool trail and I missed a lot of scenery on the first loop. These hills were nothing compared to what duck sees on a regular basis, but for me, they were pretty tough.
I asked my friend what the strategy was for some of these(he has run trail 50k's and has had some very decent finishes), and he immediately replied, "Walk". I was happy to hear him say that. It felt so strange being 200 yards into a race and already be walking, but I honestly don't know how else I could do it. I would have to imagine that the energy spent running some of these compared to the little time you gain is not a smart way to attack. At one point we saw a guy running one of the tougher ones. He passed us but didnt really get very far ahead and of course we passed him 200 feet later and I thought he was going to fall over if I got too close to him.
It was a pretty warm day as temps got to 80 degrees, but I loved it. I am so tired of being cold or having to think about what I wear to run. I was laughing as I heard people complain about how warm it was, and thought I never want to get to a point where I complain again when it is 80 degrees in Wisconsin.
I ran exactly zero miles on trails prior to this race this year. All the trails near me have been flooded. Just one month ago a trail run I ran had an alternate course due to trail conditions. I can definitely see me doing more of them. I enjoyed the atmosphere much more. It was the perfect scenario for me. No stress, good weather, no worries about time. I had been toying with the idea of a 50k, but the idea of running some of these inclines and declines was a bit intimidating for me. I think I am over that now. Had I run a road half in 2:12:43 I might be kind of annoyed. This one, seemed about the right time.
My first (real) trail race. Had no goals going into it other than to enjoy the day. Was running with a friend I hadn't seen in a while and he has been recovering from a lengthy injury. This was his longest run in 1.5 years.
I didnt really pay much attention to pacing or how the miles went. The first time I looked at my watch we were 4 miles in. It was a two loop course which at first I was annoyed with, but ended liking it as it was a very cool trail and I missed a lot of scenery on the first loop. These hills were nothing compared to what duck sees on a regular basis, but for me, they were pretty tough.
I asked my friend what the strategy was for some of these(he has run trail 50k's and has had some very decent finishes), and he immediately replied, "Walk". I was happy to hear him say that. It felt so strange being 200 yards into a race and already be walking, but I honestly don't know how else I could do it. I would have to imagine that the energy spent running some of these compared to the little time you gain is not a smart way to attack. At one point we saw a guy running one of the tougher ones. He passed us but didnt really get very far ahead and of course we passed him 200 feet later and I thought he was going to fall over if I got too close to him.
It was a pretty warm day as temps got to 80 degrees, but I loved it. I am so tired of being cold or having to think about what I wear to run. I was laughing as I heard people complain about how warm it was, and thought I never want to get to a point where I complain again when it is 80 degrees in Wisconsin.
I ran exactly zero miles on trails prior to this race this year. All the trails near me have been flooded. Just one month ago a trail run I ran had an alternate course due to trail conditions. I can definitely see me doing more of them. I enjoyed the atmosphere much more. It was the perfect scenario for me. No stress, good weather, no worries about time. I had been toying with the idea of a 50k, but the idea of running some of these inclines and declines was a bit intimidating for me. I think I am over that now. Had I run a road half in 2:12:43 I might be kind of annoyed. This one, seemed about the right time.
beer 302
Footballguy
That's what i thought. I've done that on the watch before (not sure I've posted anything to Strava but I think i have) and I get the same result, just mile splits. I'll have to mess with it some more but I haven't found a spot yet that give me my splits.
Straight up would be my guess
I went back and checked my run on Saturday to see what kind of grades I train on, about the best I could find was a 14%. That's close to the limit I can run effectively.Nice job on the half parasaurolophus! Welcome back to the trails, I'd run them everyday if I could, such a different experience out there.
Where are you moving too?Love your reports Duck! Let me know if you find yourself in the Carolinas in the next year. (I'll be moving after that)
koby925
Footballguy
Congrats to all the recent racers.
Duck, awesome and congrats on the hardware.
Jux, love the speed...is this summer of speed?
Annyong, look at who has gone and become a runner...with non basketball shorts and all
We warned you that this is addictive. Congrats on an excellent Half race that anyone would be proud of, let alone someone very new to the sport.
Did my first B2B runs Sunday (5.5) and Monday (4). With no ill effects on my hip. Seeing the doc today to make sure but I seem ready to step up to 5 days a week or so. Looking forward to possibly getting out and racing this fall. I didn't think there was a shot in hell of that a couple months ago so I'm very happy.
Duck, awesome and congrats on the hardware.
Jux, love the speed...is this summer of speed?
Annyong, look at who has gone and become a runner...with non basketball shorts and all
We warned you that this is addictive. Congrats on an excellent Half race that anyone would be proud of, let alone someone very new to the sport.Did my first B2B runs Sunday (5.5) and Monday (4). With no ill effects on my hip. Seeing the doc today to make sure but I seem ready to step up to 5 days a week or so. Looking forward to possibly getting out and racing this fall. I didn't think there was a shot in hell of that a couple months ago so I'm very happy.
Great news.Congrats to all the recent racers.
Duck, awesome and congrats on the hardware.
Jux, love the speed...is this summer of speed?
Annyong, look at who has gone and become a runner...with non basketball shorts and all
Did my first B2B runs Sunday (5.5) and Monday (4). With no ill effects on my hip. Seeing the doc today to make sure but I seem ready to step up to 5 days a week or so. Looking forward to possibly getting out and racing this fall. I didn't think there was a shot in hell of that a couple months ago so I'm very happy.
FUBAR
Footballguy
won't know until next fall. The joys of military life.Where are you moving too?Love your reports Duck! Let me know if you find yourself in the Carolinas in the next year. (I'll be moving after that)
Thinking about DC, but I'd have to become biker guy there.
Last hard workout in the books yesterday. Did my 1100 ft trail hill climb (over 2.75 to 3.0 miles) with a return trip via road.
March 1: 44'00" min climb -1'23'44 round trip
April 5: 40'30" climb - didn't do the round trip, sprained ankle
May 12: 38'40" climb - 1'08'50" round trip
Not only did I set a pr, I started the time about .15 of a mile earlier than last time. Splits were 10'32 (227 up), 13'17 (276 up), and 14'56 (571 up) on the climb. On the road downhill I set a new mile pr time at 6'56". I lost close to 300 ft over that mile so it's not real impressive, but it felt great to know what pace Steve does his recovery runs at.
Bounced back well from the 5 x 8 milers wed/thur. No real soreness and no feet issues. Legs were tired, but I think I'm mostly recovered based on yesterday's run. Did 10 miles of speed walking fri/sat and took sun off. Will get something in tonite, not sure what. May go to the track to burn some energy or possibly do a 5k in tempo range. I'm absolutely chomping at the bit to run right now.
March 1: 44'00" min climb -1'23'44 round trip
April 5: 40'30" climb - didn't do the round trip, sprained ankle
May 12: 38'40" climb - 1'08'50" round trip
Not only did I set a pr, I started the time about .15 of a mile earlier than last time. Splits were 10'32 (227 up), 13'17 (276 up), and 14'56 (571 up) on the climb. On the road downhill I set a new mile pr time at 6'56". I lost close to 300 ft over that mile so it's not real impressive, but it felt great to know what pace Steve does his recovery runs at.
Bounced back well from the 5 x 8 milers wed/thur. No real soreness and no feet issues. Legs were tired, but I think I'm mostly recovered based on yesterday's run. Did 10 miles of speed walking fri/sat and took sun off. Will get something in tonite, not sure what. May go to the track to burn some energy or possibly do a 5k in tempo range. I'm absolutely chomping at the bit to run right now.
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