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Ran a 10k in June (6 Viewers)

That leaves option #4) Do nothing ...for a decade. The doc does think that biking on it won't hurt it any more, and could help strengthen the area, relieving some of the pain. He also says that as long as I don't push off walls, swimming will help = open water swims only, or no turns.

= UGH!! I've considered myself a runner for over 30 years. No mas :cry:
Damn, this really sucks. I don't know what else to say. Channel your efforts into biking? :(
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That leaves option #4) Do nothing ...for a decade. The doc does think that biking on it won't hurt it any more, and could help strengthen the area, relieving some of the pain. He also says that as long as I don't push off walls, swimming will help = open water swims only, or no turns. = UGH!! I've considered myself a runner for over 30 years. No mas :cry:
Damn, this really sucks. I don't know what else to say. Channel your efforts into biking? :(
Dude. :( If this was me, I'd be inconsolable at first, but then you know what? I'd become the best GD cyclist around. Take some time, mourn the "loss," and then start riding. Good luck!
 
That leaves option #4) Do nothing ...for a decade. The doc does think that biking on it won't hurt it any more, and could help strengthen the area, relieving some of the pain. He also says that as long as I don't push off walls, swimming will help = open water swims only, or no turns.

= UGH!! I've considered myself a runner for over 30 years. No mas :cry:
Damn, this really sucks. I don't know what else to say. Channel your efforts into biking? :(
:sadbanana:
:sadbanana: :sadbanana:
 
That leaves option #4) Do nothing ...for a decade. The doc does think that biking on it won't hurt it any more, and could help strengthen the area, relieving some of the pain. He also says that as long as I don't push off walls, swimming will help = open water swims only, or no turns.

= UGH!! I've considered myself a runner for over 30 years. No mas :cry:
Damn, this really sucks. I don't know what else to say. Channel your efforts into biking? :(
Dude. :( If this was me, I'd be inconsolable at first, but then you know what? I'd become the best GD cyclist around. Take some time, mourn the "loss," and then start riding. Good luck!
Exactly my plan. I was a mess driving 2 hours back to here, from the specialist. I've since started working on a plan for getting back to cycling shape. The problem is that there is also a chance that cycling can incur more damage as well. I'll get back at it slow, with a goal of kicking some ### by Spring. :boxing: I've said it for approximately the past 5 years that I should concentrate on cycling, as my legs/body always feel good after, while running always makes it feel worse. That is certainly a reality now.
 
That leaves option #4) Do nothing ...for a decade. The doc does think that biking on it won't hurt it any more, and could help strengthen the area, relieving some of the pain. He also says that as long as I don't push off walls, swimming will help = open water swims only, or no turns. = UGH!! I've considered myself a runner for over 30 years. No mas :cry:
Damn, this really sucks. I don't know what else to say. Channel your efforts into biking? :(
Dude. :( If this was me, I'd be inconsolable at first, but then you know what? I'd become the best GD cyclist around. Take some time, mourn the "loss," and then start riding. Good luck!
^ this ^ I think eventually that is the way I'll be forced to go as my achilles (among other body parts) continue to make me pay for running. I'm really sorry, PSL.
 
6 today.

I looked down at the scale afterward and for the first time in 16 years I didn't see a 2 at the front of the number. 198!

Started the year at 230, got down to 207 by April, but I stayed there for three months. Sticking to the training schedule for the last four weeks has kick started the weight loss again.

Now I just have to break old habits and not celebrate with a 12 pack,

 
That leaves option #4) Do nothing ...for a decade. The doc does think that biking on it won't hurt it any more, and could help strengthen the area, relieving some of the pain. He also says that as long as I don't push off walls, swimming will help = open water swims only, or no turns.

= UGH!! I've considered myself a runner for over 30 years. No mas :cry:
Damn, this really sucks. I don't know what else to say. Channel your efforts into biking? :(
Dude. :( If this was me, I'd be inconsolable at first, but then you know what? I'd become the best GD cyclist around. Take some time, mourn the "loss," and then start riding. Good luck!
Exactly my plan. I was a mess driving 2 hours back to here, from the specialist. I've since started working on a plan for getting back to cycling shape. The problem is that there is also a chance that cycling can incur more damage as well. I'll get back at it slow, with a goal of kicking some ### by Spring. :boxing: I've said it for approximately the past 5 years that I should concentrate on cycling, as my legs/body always feel good after, while running always makes it feel worse. That is certainly a reality now.
I doubt it helps much, but my 6 year old is going thru some medical stuff that will take until she is 20 to resolve. I have to keep reminding her about her friend who was born with no hand, or the girl in her class in a wheelchair. There are always those who have it worse, and whatever hardships you go through will end up making you stronger if you can push thru them.It will probably take some time, but it might help to focus on the good times you had running, many people probably haven't experienced what you got to.

It will definitely help to focus your energy on something new. Sorry to hear your update.

 
That leaves option #4) Do nothing ...for a decade. The doc does think that biking on it won't hurt it any more, and could help strengthen the area, relieving some of the pain. He also says that as long as I don't push off walls, swimming will help = open water swims only, or no turns.

= UGH!! I've considered myself a runner for over 30 years. No mas :cry:
Damn, this really sucks. I don't know what else to say. Channel your efforts into biking? :(
Dude. :( If this was me, I'd be inconsolable at first, but then you know what? I'd become the best GD cyclist around. Take some time, mourn the "loss," and then start riding. Good luck!
Exactly my plan. I was a mess driving 2 hours back to here, from the specialist. I've since started working on a plan for getting back to cycling shape. The problem is that there is also a chance that cycling can incur more damage as well. I'll get back at it slow, with a goal of kicking some ### by Spring. :boxing: I've said it for approximately the past 5 years that I should concentrate on cycling, as my legs/body always feel good after, while running always makes it feel worse. That is certainly a reality now.
#### I feel bad for you, BUT, I am going to try and put a positive spin on things. First, technology and medicine improve exponentially from year to year. What may seem impossible now in terms of a hip replacement, could be like changing the oil on a car in 10 years or sooner. Second, there are tons of OWS and Aqua/Bike endurance events. In fact, here is your first chance to race a stand alone OWS event. Don't knock these until you try them. I did a mile OWS event on the 4th of July weekend and LOVED it. I've recently bought a swim tether to use when I travel for work and have to use the hotel pool. This would work for you to simulate OWS, while using the pool. Its a hell of a workout as you don't get the advantage of a glide in the water. I would guess that yoga would be good to add to the mix as well. Plenty of other ways to abuse your body, go find some new ones to replace running!
 
That leaves option #4) Do nothing ...for a decade. The doc does think that biking on it won't hurt it any more, and could help strengthen the area, relieving some of the pain. He also says that as long as I don't push off walls, swimming will help = open water swims only, or no turns. = UGH!! I've considered myself a runner for over 30 years. No mas :cry:
That blows chunks, man. I will say that the OWS restriction is bunk. You can easily do lap swimming using only one leg to push off. OWS only really hurts your opportunity for swimming a lot. Develop a one leg push and you can swim lots.It is good news, though, that cycling is in. You are a superb cyclist and I expect you will be in the Tour next year with your new focus.
 
#### I feel bad for you, BUT, I am going to try and put a positive spin on things. First, technology and medicine improve exponentially from year to year. What may seem impossible now in terms of a hip replacement, could be like changing the oil on a car in 10 years or sooner. Second, there are tons of OWS and Aqua/Bike endurance events. In fact, here is your first chance to race a stand alone OWS event. Don't knock these until you try them. I did a mile OWS event on the 4th of July weekend and LOVED it. I've recently bought a swim tether to use when I travel for work and have to use the hotel pool. This would work for you to simulate OWS, while using the pool. Its a hell of a workout as you don't get the advantage of a glide in the water. I would guess that yoga would be good to add to the mix as well. Plenty of other ways to abuse your body, go find some new ones to replace running!
Why, has he already run through all the aerobics instructors in his area already?
 
That leaves option #4) Do nothing ...for a decade. The doc does think that biking on it won't hurt it any more, and could help strengthen the area, relieving some of the pain. He also says that as long as I don't push off walls, swimming will help = open water swims only, or no turns.

= UGH!! I've considered myself a runner for over 30 years. No mas :cry:
That blows chunks, man. I will say that the OWS restriction is bunk. You can easily do lap swimming using only one leg to push off. OWS only really hurts your opportunity for swimming a lot. Develop a one leg push and you can swim lots.

It is good news, though, that cycling is in. You are a superb cyclist and I expect you will be in the Tour next year with your new focus.
The problem is that it's both hips = pushing with either is not good. 2Young: Thanks for the OWS link! It's too early for me to do, but it is another option.

Duff: Thanks for putting it in perspective. I'm done feeling sorry for myself though I am still pissed off. The "Tri" sticker on the back of my car was the only casualty so far. I ripped 80% of it off as I got to my car (the rest is there as a sad reminder until I get some Goo-b-Gone).

 
6 today.I looked down at the scale afterward and for the first time in 16 years I didn't see a 2 at the front of the number. 198!Started the year at 230, got down to 207 by April, but I stayed there for three months. Sticking to the training schedule for the last four weeks has kick started the weight loss again.Now I just have to break old habits and not celebrate with a 12 pack,
Nice work.I was at about 250 in January/February.Got to 210 about a month ago and have hovered there for a few weeks.Sunday it read 208, so need to keep the push going to get to 200 by October 15 for my half.Want to be 190 by Christmas.
 
The problem is that it's both hips = pushing with either is not good.

2Young: Thanks for the OWS link! It's too early for me to do, but it is another option.
If your pool has a diving well, circle it to simulate OWS. I'll do this from time to time over the winter. Alternate directions every 2, 5 or 10 times around.And, I figured it was too early for an OWS, but wanted to show there is stuff out there if you go and look for it. Tri Find Dot Com has tons of events listed each year.

I wonder if Grue and BNB would consider doing a full IM Relay with you someday...........

 
Duff: Thanks for putting it in perspective. I'm done feeling sorry for myself though I am still pissed off. The "Tri" sticker on the back of my car was the only casualty so far. I ripped 80% of it off as I got to my car (the rest is there as a sad reminder until I get some Goo-b-Gone).
This killed me more than your original post.Glad you're looking forward already. You're a better man than me. :thumbup:
 
'2Young2BBald said:
I wonder if Grue and BNB SAND would consider doing a full IM Relay with you someday...........
He needs a swimmer, not a boat anchor.
 
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Looks like I should read the thread before posting.

Pigskins...I'm really sorry to hear about the bad news. That said, you were kicking some behind on the bike so get back to it. Maybe you could ring Coldues back up and drag him thru HTH again.

Alot of the tris have mixed relays. With your stable of ladies you should have no problem fielding a team.

 
Hi guys. So what'd I miss today?

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JP, I'm really sorry to hear the news. :kicksrock: But you're still you, and you're a great guy. You work hard (and publish very successfully), you play hard, and you're a proud and active dad with your two girls. Running's just a small part of the equation, though I'm sure it tears your heart out to hear the news.

 
PSL- Sorry to read this. :sadbanana: I think every one else had some great ideas and I dont have much to add. I will keep you in my prayers.

 
Went out for a slow 3 today, 90 out with 55%, and it was awful. My calves felt dead and I came home in 32:30, 4 minutes slower than last week. With JP's news my problems seem insignificant.

 
Went out for a slow 3 today, 90 out with 55%, and it was awful. My calves felt dead and I came home in 32:30, 4 minutes slower than last week. With JP's news my problems seem insignificant.
Mid 50s here...but it has not stopped raining since Saturday.Just a tiny sprinkle now...hopefully that keeps up til about 9 when I can get out there.Just a little 3 recovery miles tonight.
 
What a day.I've run this dual race last year in prep for my half marathon and decided to do it again this year.Essentially, its a 5K that starts at 8:30 and a 10K that starts at 9. So, I did both races last year. My 5K time last year was 23:36 and my 10K time was 47:57. A muggy day to start this morning, with the temp at 68 degrees and the dewpoint at 66 so the humidity was nearly 100%. I had already decided to go almost balls out in the 5K and I could just do the 10K leisurely if need be. My warmup sucked. They didn't have water this year before. I was hungry and just felt crappy.Course is an out and back with some rolling hills. More hilly than flat but just little hills up and down throughout.5K raceMile 1 -- 6:40/mile - 160 HRMile 2 -- 7:10/mile - 170 HRMile 3 -- 7:13/mile - 173 HRLast 0.1 -- 6:09/mile -- 175 HRTotal 21:27 (my previous best was 23:05!) with an average HR of 168. Never thought I could do a sub 7 minute mile for a 5K. I finished 32 out of 261 overall and 6th out of 21 in my 40-49 age group. So....I'm pretty gassed at this point and I've got about 8 minutes to get about 1/2 mile to the 10K start. I walk and leisurely jog to get over there. At the 10K start, its a quick downhill to begin and I figure I'll see how the legs feel and just push accordingly. I knew that there were some uphills in miles 4-6 but this was more of a training run than anything.10K raceMile 1 -- 7:07/mile -- 156 HR (alot of downhill here)Mile 2 -- 7:35/mile -- 164 HRMile 3 -- 7:26/mile -- 165 HRMile 4 -- 7:32/mile -- 168 HRMile 5 -- 7:24/Mile -- 168 HRMile 6 -- 7:38/mile -- 166 HR (alot of uphill here)Last 0.2 -- 6:44/mile -- 169 HRTotal 45:49 (my previous best was 46:30!) -- 7:26/mile -- 164 HR (finished 42 out of 174 and 8 out of 16 in my age group.)So, to sum it up. 2 PR's within an hour of each other. Pretty cool feeling. :thumbup: Especially after a crappy week of training. Admittedly, I'm more excited about my 5K PR as I've run a fair number of 5K's and I haven't really run that many 10K's since I've gotten more serious with my training. I have to thank my fellow running FBG's. As corny as it sounds, I can't tell you the number of times I've said to myself, "I gotta finish a training run strong" or "get out and run" because I didn't want to have to come on this board with my tail between my legs. Thanks guys.
Dude, that's freaking unreal. Congrats.
 
Suggestions for Garmin running monitors? Which is best? Are the higher-end ones a waste of money? Or worth it?

 
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Suggestions for Garmin running monitors? Which is best? Are the higher-end ones a waste of money? Or worth it?
Too hard to answer. There are a myriad of them out there now. Give us a list of "must haves" and what you are going to do with it and we can at least narrow it down for you. And start reading the reviews here. There is no slam dunk choice out there.----

On my end it was 59 (yes, ####### 59!!) degrees out today. I got to stay home due to my work being without power (most of Birmingham was). Got a lot of work done not being pestered all day. Anyway, I finally got to get out for a run and hit up a 7 mile run. Only had to stop once from another dog wanting to take a chunk out of my ###, but I put in an average 8:03/mile. HR average was 162 - woulda been in the 150s but I decided to nail the last mile and did so in 7:24. 30 degrees is such a massive difference.

Finished up with six strides. Sorry tri-man, no lunges.

 
I guess they do. Found a couple already. Great Floridian and Beach2Battleship. Who knew?!
Of those two B2B >>>> Great Floridian. And the swim for B2B comes in with the tide. Given the right tidal action I could be sub 50 on that swim. The bike is flat. I figure PSL is good for 4.5 or so. :unsure: Grue is good for 3 flat. So a combined 8 1/2 or so?
'2Young2BBald said:
I wonder if Grue and BNB SAND would consider doing a full IM Relay with you someday...........
He needs a swimmer, not a boat anchor.
:lmao: :lmao: Ahem... I'm laughing with you, BnB.

Went out for a slow 3 today, 90 out with 55%, and it was awful. My calves felt dead and I came home in 32:30, 4 minutes slower than last week. With JP's news my problems seem insignificant.
Just finishing in that is a victory.
 
Last midweek 15-miler of the training cycle tonight at 7:52/mile. I totally didn't feel like running, and my legs felt so heavy that I almost quit after 2 miles, but I kept going, my legs loosened up, and it ended up being a decent run (except for the pit stop at the Subway bathroom).

Reconfigured the schedule so that tomorrow is a rest day. I need it from a mental standpoint more than anything else. If the legs feel OK, I'll give the old 12/7T another shot on Thursday.

Later, dudes.

 
55*, light drizzle, damp, and windy.

But wow felt great compared to Saturday's crapfest of heat and humidity sapping my run.

3 recovery miles. HR never got above 145 (and that was on a hill in the middle of the run).

Felt great.

 
I guess they do. Found a couple already. Great Floridian and Beach2Battleship. Who knew?!
Of those two B2B >>>> Great Floridian. And the swim for B2B comes in with the tide. Given the right tidal action I could be sub 50 on that swim. The bike is flat. I figure PSL is good for 4.5 or so. :unsure: Grue is good for 3 flat. So a combined 8 1/2 or so?
2012? Let's win the ####### thing. :boxing:
I'm looking hard at doing the full if the tides are right.Those numbers look good, but I think 5 hr would be a best case bike split. The road is flat, but you'll likely have wind. If I did the full, 5.5 would be my bike goal, 4.25 run, 1.25 swim = 11 hr plus transition time. I could try to Sand the start and hang with him for 25 yards. I could then pick up pigskin's gu wrappers on the bike course. Gru would probably pass me as I started the run while he was doing his second 13.1 lap. After you guys celebrated and ate dinner, you could wave to me as I start lap two of the run. You could then start working on a case of beer and have one left for me at the finish.

 
Suggestions for Garmin running monitors? Which is best? Are the higher-end ones a waste of money? Or worth it?
I have the 410. The complaints about the bezel are accurate. It is annoying. But that's not an issue if you take the time and hassle to configure it before your run and then lock the bezel. I think I'd still get the 310 if I had to do it again.
 
That leaves option #4) Do nothing ...for a decade. The doc does think that biking on it won't hurt it any more, and could help strengthen the area, relieving some of the pain. He also says that as long as I don't push off walls, swimming will help = open water swims only, or no turns. = UGH!! I've considered myself a runner for over 30 years. No mas :cry:
Damn, this really sucks. I don't know what else to say. Channel your efforts into biking? :(
I don't want to downplay how much this sucks, but I would like to point out that riding a bike is really, really fun
 
I'm a little over a month into my career with no car, and while I'm not exactly sure how many miles I've put on my bike (my powertap went out after two weeks and is back at Saris getting fixed) I had over 400 miles after two weeks, and I haven't been riding less. First two weeks sucked. I slept my entire days off. 5 or 6 weeks in, things have totally changed. The wife told me the other day "when you started this you complained about riding your bike all the time. Now you complain when you don't get to ride your bike."

I've only been going off HR for now, but I held between 165-172 for about 20 minutes yesterday riding with a guy I met on the road - said we were between 21-24mph for those 20 minutes on some rolling terrain. I realize this isn't much compared to some of you, but I couldn't hold 165 for two minutes a month ago. :bag: I still weigh over 200 pounds though, I eat/drink too much. I took a detour and did some hills on the way home tonight, and oof. I'm carrying too much damn weight.

Signed up for crossfit today. That will make my daily schedule about 45 miles on the bike in my commute and an hour crossfit workout. By next spring (I probably should set a date) my goal is to be 160lbs and not to have bought a car over the winter. Then I'll go race my bike after a whole lot of base miles. :)

 
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Sounds great proninja.

I signed up for a 10k in two weeks, which is still 5 weeks out from my half. Hoping to be around 55 minutes which puts me in good shape for my 2:15 half target. Sept 18 is also Terry Fox run day, so the timing works out great.

 
I have ditched any idea of running a half marathon this year and have signed up to do a 5K/10K a la Steel Curtain on a fast track in two weeks. I am still keeping a long outdoor run on Saturdays in my program, because it seems to have restarted some weight loss.

I felt surprisingly great yesterday considering I had done two long runs over the labor day holiday, so I hopped on the treadmill before my trainer's appointment and obliterated my treadmill PR in the 5K. Shaved off nearly two minutes, from 23:09 to 21:10. Looking at my logs, I never got into zone 5 on the heart rate, so I might even have a bit more to work with. I enjoy working at that distance, because no matter how hard it is at the time, I feel OK the next day.

I don't really have a legit PR in the 10K, so I can't really do what SC did. And I'm not sure I can even keep up that kind of turnover on a real, less-forgiving surface, but I might shoot for 21:00/45:00 or so with the very real understanding that 22:30/48:00 might be a more realistic result. Considering that I couldn't even run one 10:00 mile at the end of last year, I'd consider either pretty good progress.

 
Suggestions for Garmin running monitors? Which is best? Are the higher-end ones a waste of money? Or worth it?
I have a 305, and I'll probably buy the exact same thing if/when this one dies. These models look dorky, but they're easy to use and very inexpensive.
:goodposting: I looked at the smaller versions and everything else.I love the 305.Works like a charm...easy to use, read, set up the screens. Sometimes its almost information overload with how much is on that.Love it.
 
Suggestions for Garmin running monitors? Which is best? Are the higher-end ones a waste of money? Or worth it?
I have a 305, and I'll probably buy the exact same thing if/when this one dies. These models look dorky, but they're easy to use and very inexpensive.
I've got a 205, and you're right, they're super cheap and super functional, but I really want the new 610. Just having a hard time rationalizing the $350-400 price tag.
 
The thing about the "smaller" GPS watches, which you don't really get from the picture online, is that they are still pretty bulky. None of the watches are particularly stylish.

Maybe others can make do with more information, but I'm pretty much satisfied with just total time, lap time, and heart rate. I experimented with the "virtual partner" feature, but I found the screen kind of hard to read in real time.

I do like the Ant+ synch feature on the 410, as I don't have to connect a USB cable everytime I sync to my PC. I just keep the USB Ant stick plugged in and the watch syncs when I walk in the room with my PC. Of course, that also means that the ANT heart rate monitor isn't compatible with most treadmills or other machines. I really like the ANT footpad, which is small and unobtrusive and gives me more accurate readings on treadmill runs.

One thing I wish the garmin did that my old polar HR monitor watch did was to just allow me to track HR while still in the time mode, or to just specify a cross training workout and track heartrate only.

 
proninja - that's a good read about your biking and overall improvement!!!

scoob - there's a lot to be said for focusing on 5Ks. I really enjoy the training and racing at that distance.

 

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