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Ran a 10k in June (3 Viewers)

Triman- Is doing the stair master the equivalent of doing lunges?

I knew I would pig out today because of Easter so I went to the gym and burned calories on the stair master, elyptical, and rowing machine.

 
Triman- Is doing the stair master the equivalent of doing lunges?
Similar idea, I suppose, but I would say no. The lunges are much deeper stride/angle. Maybe it's fair to say stair master represent quantity of movement; lunges are quality of the movement.Wraith - great to hear the running went OK!!! :thumbup:

 
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'prosopis said:
Triman- Is doing the stair master the equivalent of doing lunges?
Similar idea, I suppose, but I would say no. The lunges are much deeper stride/angle. Maybe it's fair to say stair master represent quantity of movement; lunges are quality of the movement.Wraith - great to hear the running went OK!!! :thumbup:
Thanks
 
Greetings, gents. This weekend was a biking weekend. 57 miler on Saturday - popped a tire, got it changed, hung on to the strongest guy in the group who waited up on me (nice guy), cramped up both quads going up the last big climb. Joyful ride. 20 miles today down in south Alabama, including a gaudy 8 mile set at 245 watts (21.5mph). Legs are extra crispy, but that is a good thing, I guess.

On to swimming and more swimming! 8k done last week, more to go this week.

 
Hey all. Hope all had a great Easter.

Seems like the efforts in here have been strong, as usual. Just catching up after being away for a couple days, but I was able to get in some good runs.

Last Thursday I was awoken @ 4AM by the little guy and he was ready to party so I took him for an hour and a half to play with him. He went back down just in time for me to get in my 8 mile run. Nothing to big with it as I was just getting in some miles. We also went to the USAF museum in Dayton, OH. It was a great trip and anyone with airplane fans in their family would love it.

For recovery on Friday, I cut the grass. Not your typical recovery, but I had to satisfy two needs. I was also planning for 22 on Saturday.

For Saturday's run I was up at 4:30 in order to get it in before a busy day of birthday parties and such with the kids. It was a wonderful 39 degrees when I started and I felt really good for the entire run. I think I averaged 8:40 per and my legs really felt strong throughout. My heartrate averaged 150 which I thought was a good sign as I never felt like I was giving intense effort, but just kind of cruising along.

The only problem that I have with my recovery has been my knee. I am getting a pain on the top of the knee cap where the quad attaches to the cap. I don't think it is runner's knee, but could be. It really hurts more like a deep bruise than the knee issues I had before. Just curious if anyone has any suggestions. It has gotten better since Saturday, but I may take another day off today to see where that gets me. One other interesting thing is that I am not sure that it is inflamation because Ibuprofen seems to do nothing for it so I am hoping that I just banged my knee on something and did not realize it at the time.

Have a great day all.

 
Grue - T-6 days. When are you heading out? You ready or what??
Yikes! :eek: Just kidding. Yeah, I think I'm ready. Did my last double-digit run on Saturday (12 at 7:39/mile), so just a couple of short ones left to go. I'll include a couple miles at GMP during tomorrow's 7-miler just to keep the legs fresh.In terms of goal pace, I'm not really sure what to expect. Didn't do a ton of quality this cycle, but I did have a couple solid tempo runs, and I PR'd a couple of shorter races, so the speed is there. I'm thinking I'm gonna pace for 3:09 and see what happens. I'm probably in better shape than that, but after last year's colossal crash and burn, I want to play it safe. If I get through the hills and I'm feeling good, I'll drop the hammer.I head down to Milwaukee on Thursday night, since my flight leaves at 6 AM on Friday. Should be fun!
 
Guys, need some help here.

I'm not running outside right now, as we only have about a 1.5 mile loop to run on. We have more, but only if you want to risk injury running on rocks. This will be for the next 5 months or so.

So, I hit the dreadmill most days. It gets boring unless I'm doing speedwork. Been doing 1/4s, cresendos (start at a moderate speed, work my way up every .1 or 30 seconds for a mile, start over), hills, etc. I listen to music of course but it still gets boring. Do you have any tips for the dreadmill? I don't plan on running more than 90 minutes at any time, but 60 was bad enough.

 
Guys, need some help here.

I'm not running outside right now, as we only have about a 1.5 mile loop to run on. We have more, but only if you want to risk injury running on rocks. This will be for the next 5 months or so.

So, I hit the dreadmill most days. It gets boring unless I'm doing speedwork. Been doing 1/4s, cresendos (start at a moderate speed, work my way up every .1 or 30 seconds for a mile, start over), hills, etc. I listen to music of course but it still gets boring. Do you have any tips for the dreadmill? I don't plan on running more than 90 minutes at any time, but 60 was bad enough.
FUBAR, where are you stationed??
 
If owner wasnt there, what should I have done. I have never had to fend off a dog before
If you are:Grue: = just out run that little bastardTri: Lunge at that little bastardBnB: run straight up a mountainNed: check it's HR2Y: IF it is a smaller dog race with it; if it is a larger dog, mock it for being a ClydesdaleBF: do something hilariousSand: jump in the water Me: I typically used to run right at them to make them back up. If they were running at an angle to try to cut me off, I'd change my course a couple of times. When I'm on my bike I just dare them to try to keep up.
:lol:Early candidate for Post of the Year
 
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pm: great run! I don't know what to recommend with your knee, other than rest is your friend.

Grue: :popcorn: I can't wait to live vicariously through another Boston with you and the group here!

Tri: Can't wait to hear about the new shoes. I like the concept

Sand: Nice riding this weekend! The video = :shock: Extra crisp?

FUBAR: I hate dreadmills. With that said, still work on getting a speed, tempo and long run in every week. I'd also incorporate some hill work if you have incline.

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My update:

I'm on the recovery week at the end of Phase II of P90x = more cardio and less lifting this week. Friday I did Legs/Back and tried to follow it up with an early morning long ride on Saturday. The ride was brutal. My legs were pretty fried from the lunge-fest, and at mile 7 I had a solid biker more than a half mile ahead of me. I worked my ### off to catch him, and even harder to drop him. He grabbed my wheel as I went by and he held on for almost two miles. My HR hit 192 near the end of it, but it was worth it as he fell off the back, and my ego was happy. I don't have data in front of me, but I averaged over 24 mph over those 4+ miles with a helping cross wind. This unfortunately put a damper on the rest of my ride as I burned too many matches to burn Mr. Pinnarello w/ Zipps. I ended up riding 42 miles, but unfortunately had my first sub 20 MPH ride of the year (AVE = 19.6). It was still certainly worth it.

Yesterday I took the day off, and today was a 60 minute elliptical day, and I'll do Core Synergistics tonight.

 
Grue - T-6 days. When are you heading out? You ready or what??
Yikes! :eek: Just kidding. Yeah, I think I'm ready. Did my last double-digit run on Saturday (12 at 7:39/mile), so just a couple of short ones left to go. I'll include a couple miles at GMP during tomorrow's 7-miler just to keep the legs fresh.In terms of goal pace, I'm not really sure what to expect. Didn't do a ton of quality this cycle, but I did have a couple solid tempo runs, and I PR'd a couple of shorter races, so the speed is there. I'm thinking I'm gonna pace for 3:09 and see what happens. I'm probably in better shape than that, but after last year's colossal crash and burn, I want to play it safe. If I get through the hills and I'm feeling good, I'll drop the hammer.I head down to Milwaukee on Thursday night, since my flight leaves at 6 AM on Friday. Should be fun!
:thumbup: Have fun, man.
 
The heat is here.

91 degrees out today when I ran.

5 miles, 10:10 avg pace, HR 163

Tomorrow I am going to do a Higdon tempo run "humpbacked fashion" on the treadmill.

Fubar- I try to get a treadmill in the back with a nice view if possible. There is usually a young lady to chase at the gym. Other then that I think your screwed.

Grue- Good luck. Always enjoy following you at these races. Very cool.

pm- Damn that is a nice long run :excited:

pigskin- you are an animal with this stuff. I get sore reading what you do.

 
I guess this goes out to Sand and Pigskin.

50 miles yesterday including the 19 mile, 3900 ft climb from Asheville to Craggy. That 19 miles has about 2 miles of flat to downhill in the mix. Here are the stats from the climb...

Selection Stats

Distance 18.77 mi

Riding Time 1:38:24

Cals Burned 1447 kcal

Avg Max

Power 256.4 577 W

Speed 11.4 34 mi/h

Wind 11.8 33 mi/h

Caden 70.9 102 rpm

Climbing 3596 ft

Elev 1861 to 5286 ft

Slope -5.6 to 8.6%

And the entire ride...

Distance 50.82 mi

Riding Time 3:09:47

Cals Burned 2166 kcal

Avg Max

Power 199.0 577 W

Speed 16.1 40 mi/h

Wind 16.2 44 mi/h

Caden 72.3 108 rpm

Climbing 4797 ft

Elev 1838 to 5305 ft

Slope -9.7 to 9.0%

Really felt like I was climbing well.

Last 5 miles of the climb

Distance 5.02 mi

Riding Time 0:27:52

Cals Burned 434 kcal

Avg Max

Power 271.8 506 W

Speed 10.8 23 mi/h

Wind 10.8 23 mi/h

Caden 68.7 88 rpm

Climbing 1116 ft

Elev 4148 to 5286 ft

Slope 0.6 to 8.6%

Last 7/10's of the climb

Distance 0.70 mi

Riding Time 0:03:50

Cals Burned 75 kcal

Avg Max

Power 340.4 506 W

Speed 11.1 16 mi/h

Wind 11.1 16 mi/h

Caden 71.3 82 rpm

Climbing 187 ft

Elev 5089 to 5279 ft

Slope 1.0 to 8.6%

I was trying to reach the top in under 2 hours from the start of the ride, so I burnt my last match...missed it by 30 secs.

 
pm: great run! I don't know what to recommend with your knee, other than rest is your friend.Grue: :popcorn: I can't wait to live vicariously through another Boston with you and the group here!Tri: Can't wait to hear about the new shoes. I like the conceptSand: Nice riding this weekend! The video = :shock: Extra crisp?FUBAR: I hate dreadmills. With that said, still work on getting a speed, tempo and long run in every week. I'd also incorporate some hill work if you have incline. _________________________My update:I'm on the recovery week at the end of Phase II of P90x = more cardio and less lifting this week. Friday I did Legs/Back and tried to follow it up with an early morning long ride on Saturday. The ride was brutal. My legs were pretty fried from the lunge-fest, and at mile 7 I had a solid biker more than a half mile ahead of me. I worked my ### off to catch him, and even harder to drop him. He grabbed my wheel as I went by and he held on for almost two miles. My HR hit 192 near the end of it, but it was worth it as he fell off the back, and my ego was happy. I don't have data in front of me, but I averaged over 24 mph over those 4+ miles with a helping cross wind. This unfortunately put a damper on the rest of my ride as I burned too many matches to burn Mr. Pinnarello w/ Zipps. I ended up riding 42 miles, but unfortunately had my first sub 20 MPH ride of the year (AVE = 19.6). It was still certainly worth it. Yesterday I took the day off, and today was a 60 minute elliptical day, and I'll do Core Synergistics tonight.
Good work dude...that is fun chasing a rabbit. I ran down two on my last climb of the day yesterday. Distance 2.45 miRiding Time 0:10:07Cals Burned 172 kcal Avg MaxPower 295.6 396 WSpeed 14.6 23 mi/hWind 15.7 24 mi/hCaden 77.6 96 rpmClimbing 343 ftElev 1906 to 2249 ftSlope -1.4 to 5.4%I thought I had dropped them, but one hooked on during the descent. I'm absolutely terrified of the bridge expansion joints on the parkway right now. Drop a bottle early in the ride hitting one. I'm afriad I'm going to taco a wheel at 30+ mph and end up in the hospital so I heavily on the brakes.
 
The ride was brutal. My legs were pretty fried from the lunge-fest, and at mile 7 I had a solid biker more than a half mile ahead of me. I worked my ### off to catch him, and even harder to drop him. He grabbed my wheel as I went by and he held on for almost two miles. My HR hit 192 near the end of it, but it was worth it as he fell off the back, and my ego was happy. I don't have data in front of me, but I averaged over 24 mph over those 4+ miles with a helping cross wind. This unfortunately put a damper on the rest of my ride as I burned too many matches to burn Mr. Pinnarello w/ Zipps. I ended up riding 42 miles, but unfortunately had my first sub 20 MPH ride of the year (AVE = 19.6). It was still certainly worth it.
Yeah, seriously, go buy a ####### powertap, dude. I'd love to see what you put out on rides like this. I had a shot like that last weekend - hit the front of the paceline with a mile and a bit to go to our stop. Dragged them along at 26mph down the flat - felt awesome (we have very few flats that long, so it is a bit of a treat). On the roadie that is about as long as I can hold that kind of speed. And I can sympathize with the match thing. As is normal for me last weekend I burned all of mine in the first 30 miles. That led to my quads doing the cramp dance up the last nasty hill.----Small update: Calf still ####ed. No running for a bit (again). So I hit up the pool tonight. 2500yds. 2x500 in 6:50 and 6:49 in the drag suit. That ####### rules for me - those were not all out efforts. Finished up with some 50yd sprints in the :32-33 sec. range.
 
For Saturday's run I was up at 4:30 in order to get it in before a busy day of birthday parties and such with the kids. It was a wonderful 39 degrees when I started and I felt really good for the entire run. I think I averaged 8:40 per and my legs really felt strong throughout. My heartrate averaged 150 which I thought was a good sign as I never felt like I was giving intense effort, but just kind of cruising along.
Great run! My HR can hit 150 just sitting on the couch.
 
I guess this goes out to Sand and Pigskin.50 miles yesterday including the 19 mile, 3900 ft climb from Asheville to Craggy. That 19 miles has about 2 miles of flat to downhill in the mix. Here are the stats from the climb...Selection StatsDistance 18.77 miRiding Time 1:38:24Cals Burned 1447 kcal Avg MaxPower 256.4 577 WSpeed 11.4 34 mi/hWind 11.8 33 mi/hCaden 70.9 102 rpmClimbing 3596 ftElev 1861 to 5286 ftSlope -5.6 to 8.6%
Now that's awesome! I wish we had climbs like that. We top out at about 500ft. elevation change around here. One thing that pops out (besides the ridiculous power numbers) is that you seriously mash the pedals - I'd be at 90+rpm on an ascent like that.
 
Any of you biking studs have good bike workout suggestions? Generally speaking, I don't even sniff 20mph unless I'm going downhill and I really want to get more semi-competitive on the bike legs of my tri's this summer.

I'm about 21 weeks out from the 1/2 IM, so I suppose I need to start thinking about my training plan...

 
Never had foot problems before but I've got sore heels. Been going on for nearly a week. Pretty sure it's soreness and not an injury because it's on both feet and worst when getting out of bed or after sitting for a while. Once I get a mile into a run it goes away.8 miles today, 16 tomorrow. Next 2 weeks are going to be a ##### (55mi both), then I've got a HM tuneup race on 4/29.
what kind of heel pain? If it feels like you steppend on a nail in the center of your heel, it could be a little plantar fasciitis, and you want to be careful with it, especiaally if you're upping your mileage.
 
Never had foot problems before but I've got sore heels. Been going on for nearly a week. Pretty sure it's soreness and not an injury because it's on both feet and worst when getting out of bed or after sitting for a while. Once I get a mile into a run it goes away.8 miles today, 16 tomorrow. Next 2 weeks are going to be a ##### (55mi both), then I've got a HM tuneup race on 4/29.
what kind of heel pain? If it feels like you steppend on a nail in the center of your heel, it could be a little plantar fasciitis, and you want to be careful with it, especiaally if you're upping your mileage.
:goodposting: Freeze a water bottle and roll it over your heels after a run for 10 mins. Before you get up in the morning, stretch with a towel in your bed before stepping down.
 
Guys, need some help here.

I'm not running outside right now, as we only have about a 1.5 mile loop to run on. We have more, but only if you want to risk injury running on rocks. This will be for the next 5 months or so.

So, I hit the dreadmill most days. It gets boring unless I'm doing speedwork. Been doing 1/4s, cresendos (start at a moderate speed, work my way up every .1 or 30 seconds for a mile, start over), hills, etc. I listen to music of course but it still gets boring. Do you have any tips for the dreadmill? I don't plan on running more than 90 minutes at any time, but 60 was bad enough.
FUBAR, where are you stationed??
here life is actually alright, but I'd kill for a nice running trail.

 
Any of you biking studs have good bike workout suggestions? Generally speaking, I don't even sniff 20mph unless I'm going downhill and I really want to get more semi-competitive on the bike legs of my tri's this summer. I'm about 21 weeks out from the 1/2 IM, so I suppose I need to start thinking about my training plan...
Just ride, man. Ride hard and short, ride easier and long, attack the hills, find a good group ride that will push your capabilities. But most of all, just ride.
 
pm: great run! I don't know what to recommend with your knee, other than rest is your friend.
Of course, I did what any good runner would do yesterday and do 6 recovery miles on it. Funny thing is that it does not hurt when I am running at all, but only when resting. So I figure the easy solution is to just run all day long. Not sustainable sure, but what a good story that would be.Actually it is feeling better today and I am pretty sure it is just a deep bruise and nothing serious.
 
Yeah, seriously, go buy a ####### powertap, dude.

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Small update: Calf still ####ed. No running for a bit (again). So I hit up the pool tonight. 2500yds. 2x500 in 6:50 and 6:49 in the drag suit. That ####### rules for me - those were not all out efforts. Finished up with some 50yd sprints in the :32-33 sec. range.
I'd LOVE a powertap. I have some bizarre financial crap going on now which is a long story for another day = it won't likely be soon. Your drag suit times are still sick. Regarding your calves; are you wearing calf sleeves? If not you should be.

Now that's awesome! I wish we had climbs like that. We top out at about 500ft. elevation change around here. One thing that pops out (besides the ridiculous power numbers) is that you seriously mash the pedals - I'd be at 90+rpm on an ascent like that.
LOL. We top out at 100 ft. of elevation change here. Mashing at 70 RPM's would crush my quads. You are a true beast. What is your setup on that bike, triple or compact (if a double you are a God)?
Any of you biking studs have good bike workout suggestions? Generally speaking, I don't even sniff 20mph unless I'm going downhill and I really want to get more semi-competitive on the bike legs of my tri's this summer.

I'm about 21 weeks out from the 1/2 IM, so I suppose I need to start thinking about my training plan...
Train as you would for running. A long ride, a tempo ride and a speed ride in rotation is a good start. I typically just ride as hard and fast as I can most of the time and sometimes try to ride harder.
So I figure the easy solution is to just run all day long. Not sustainable sure, but what a good story that would be.
Do it, for no particular reason!
 
Any of you biking studs have good bike workout suggestions? Generally speaking, I don't even sniff 20mph unless I'm going downhill and I really want to get more semi-competitive on the bike legs of my tri's this summer. I'm about 21 weeks out from the 1/2 IM, so I suppose I need to start thinking about my training plan...
I'd probably try to ride 3 days a week and avoid group rides.Long ride - I'd work my way up to 3.5 hours over the 21 weeks. This will make the 56 mile leg seem like cake. HR zone 1-2. Not trying to kill this ride. I'd look to brick after this ride every other week.45-60 min tempo ride. I'd pick a route in the 15-20 mile range and ride hard in the high zone 3 / low zone 4. Doing the same route each time will give you a way to measure your improvement (assuming no wind impact). Definately want to run after this ride whenever possible. Your going to ride at or just below this pace during your event.2 x 20 min intervals. Warm up and then hammer it for all your worth. You'll want to be near threshold level effort. Start off with 10 min intervals and work up to the 20s. 5-10 min active recovery in between sets. This should be your only workout of the day unless you swim.
 
So I figure the easy solution is to just run all day long. Not sustainable sure, but what a good story that would be.
Do it, for no particular reason!
Funny thing about that is that my wife calls me "Forest" all the time. It drives me crazy when people call me "Forest". I love that scene though as I understand it so well. Usually if someone says "Run, Forest, Run", I usually respond with "Stupid is as Stupid does".
 
Hey gentlemen...been busy. Hope your training/races have gone well.

I got some speed work in two saturdays ago. 2 Mile warm up. 400 sprints at 75, 74, 76, 76, 80, 75. 2 mile cool down.

Got an 8-10 miler in last thursday...but it left my shins in bad shape.

Ran 4 miles yesterday in 27:42 with a 15-20 MPH wind.

 
pmbrown -- Great run. I don't get out there before sunrise that often, but when I do it's great to look down and see that my long run is 2/3 over with as the sun comes up. No suggestions on the knee -- good luck.

FUBAR -- I've tried audiobooks before, but honestly I find that they make me more bored than I would have been with nothing to listen to at all. I'm assuming tv is not an option?

gruecd -- Another year, another Boston. Go get 'em.

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I did a pretty easy 15 on Easter after church, 5 recovery miles yesterday, and then 10 with 6 tempo miles today. Today's run ended up being easier than I thought it might have been. I had a hard time getting to a sub-8 pace at first, but after the first mile, it was no big deal and I ended up averaging 7:53/mi for the tempo miles. This is no big deal to most of you guys, but this week should be a personal best 45 miles for me. :thumbup:

 
FUBAR -- I've tried audiobooks before, but honestly I find that they make me more bored than I would have been with nothing to listen to at all. I'm assuming tv is not an option?
TVs aren't a good option, they're too high for comfort. Music works for now.
I will second the audiobooks as a good way to pass the time, but I have also heard that a lot of people like to do different podcasts and I believe there are a few running podcasts out there that are really good. For me, when I listen to music, sometimes it makes me go too fast, but the audiobooks do a good job of keeping me even and calmer.Everyone is different, but I am not sure how much you can spice up the treadmill. You are getting your runs in so at least you have that going for you. And, I thank you for your service as well.

One thing about the 1.5 mile loop is that it may be a good place to do your intervals. Just a thought.

 
Have any of you listened to the Marathon Training Academy podcast? I bring it up because I really want to listen to it but the hosts and theme song drive me nuts.

It's so.. well... this is a thread where I try not to offend anybody

 
2 x 1600 & 1 x 800 w/ 400 RI Today

10 minute warmup

1600 - 6:04

400 - 2:20

1600 - 6:13

400 - 2:20

800 - 3:00

10 minute cooldown

:mellow:

 
Have any of you listened to the Marathon Training Academy podcast? I bring it up because I really want to listen to it but the hosts and theme song drive me nuts.

It's so.. well... this is a thread where I try not to offend anybody
I don't listen to that one, but I do enjoy RunRunLive (also available on iTunes).
 
2 x 1600 & 1 x 800 w/ 400 RI Today10 minute warmup1600 - 6:04400 - 2:201600 - 6:13400 - 2:20800 - 3:0010 minute cooldown :mellow:
You're crankin' out some good speed work. Are these at or just below 5K effort or are you hammering all out?
 
Have any of you listened to the Marathon Training Academy podcast? I bring it up because I really want to listen to it but the hosts and theme song drive me nuts.

It's so.. well... this is a thread where I try not to offend anybody
I don't listen to that one, but I do enjoy RunRunLive (also available on iTunes).
While I stand by my LSD comment (after all, running away from the throbbing walls and mutant bees makes the treadmill much more exciting), I'll throw in a plug for Best Radio You Have Never Heard Podcast.
 
'FUBAR said:
'IvanKaramazov said:
FUBAR -- I've tried audiobooks before, but honestly I find that they make me more bored than I would have been with nothing to listen to at all. I'm assuming tv is not an option?
TVs aren't a good option, they're too high for comfort. Music works for now.
I watch HBOGo on my Touchpad when on the treadmill. I have the treadmill in my basement so I can watch TV if everyone is awake as I have to turn it up fairly loud to hear everything. I tend to run at 5AM. I am pretty new to running. Just finished 5 miles this morning at a 9:40 pace. I keep the treadmill set at 4% incline to try to counteract the fact that I'm on a treadmill. I don't do anything fancy, I try to run a 5k once a week and best my last time. I ran a 27:00 last week and was pretty happy. I've been running since late January.
 
2 x 1600 & 1 x 800 w/ 400 RI Today10 minute warmup1600 - 6:04400 - 2:201600 - 6:13400 - 2:20800 - 3:0010 minute cooldown :mellow:
You're crankin' out some good speed work. Are these at or just below 5K effort or are you hammering all out?
I'd say it's just below 5k pace. The whole speed work training is relatively new to me, so I haven't really dialed in my goal pace for each distance. Kinda of a work in progress. Also, I have no idea how fast or slow I should doing my rest intervals. I'm just winging it, I guess.
 
2 x 1600 & 1 x 800 w/ 400 RI Today10 minute warmup1600 - 6:04400 - 2:201600 - 6:13400 - 2:20800 - 3:0010 minute cooldown :mellow:
You're crankin' out some good speed work. Are these at or just below 5K effort or are you hammering all out?
I'd say it's just below 5k pace. The whole speed work training is relatively new to me, so I haven't really dialed in my goal pace for each distance. Kinda of a work in progress. Also, I have no idea how fast or slow I should doing my rest intervals. I'm just winging it, I guess.
Great stuff! I tried a new workout yesterday that I'd read about in Runner's World (piece on Galen Rupp) - 200m hard, 200m moderate ..continual loops. The trick is the brisk recovery! It's really not a rest interval. I only did four cycles (so 1 mile), but used :45 (6:00/mi) on the hard 200m, 1:00 (8:00/mi) on the recovery. This was in the new shoes so I could see how speed work felt in them ..and it felt good, though it got my calves barking a bit. They were OK today in old shoes for an easy 8 mile run.
 
2 x 1600 & 1 x 800 w/ 400 RI Today10 minute warmup1600 - 6:04400 - 2:201600 - 6:13400 - 2:20800 - 3:0010 minute cooldown :mellow:
Damn. Those are some speedy times. I'm pretty sure I can't do an 800 in 3:00 flat even if I was going all-out.
I obviously don't know you but you'd be surprised how fast you can run when you push it. You gotta be willing to suffer though. Running a fast 5k is hell.
 
2 x 1600 & 1 x 800 w/ 400 RI Today10 minute warmup1600 - 6:04400 - 2:201600 - 6:13400 - 2:20800 - 3:0010 minute cooldown :mellow:
You're crankin' out some good speed work. Are these at or just below 5K effort or are you hammering all out?
I'd say it's just below 5k pace. The whole speed work training is relatively new to me, so I haven't really dialed in my goal pace for each distance. Kinda of a work in progress. Also, I have no idea how fast or slow I should doing my rest intervals. I'm just winging it, I guess.
Great stuff! I tried a new workout yesterday that I'd read about in Runner's World (piece on Galen Rupp) - 200m hard, 200m moderate ..continual loops. The trick is the brisk recovery! It's really not a rest interval. I only did four cycles (so 1 mile), but used :45 (6:00/mi) on the hard 200m, 1:00 (8:00/mi) on the recovery. This was in the new shoes so I could see how speed work felt in them ..and it felt good, though it got my calves barking a bit. They were OK today in old shoes for an easy 8 mile run.
Nice. How many cycles is the recommendation?I've been doing those furman first workouts. I loved their marathon training program, so now I'm working on the 10k training. This one seems way more intense. There's no easy runs but you only run 3 days a week...which helps with the recovery. Curious to see if anyone else has tried them,
 
2 x 1600 & 1 x 800 w/ 400 RI Today10 minute warmup1600 - 6:04400 - 2:201600 - 6:13400 - 2:20800 - 3:0010 minute cooldown :mellow:
Damn. Those are some speedy times. I'm pretty sure I can't do an 800 in 3:00 flat even if I was going all-out.
I obviously don't know you but you'd be surprised how fast you can run when you push it. You gotta be willing to suffer though. Running a fast 5k is hell.
You make my speedwork look like childs play
 

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