tri-man 47
Footballguy
Fixed.Happy :finger: birthday funny manDidn't know tri-man had an alias on here...CGRdrJoe said:
Happy Birthday, big guy!And for the record, my calves are rather shapely, thank you very much.
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Ran a 10k in June (3 Viewers)
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Happy Birthday, big guy!And for the record, my calves are rather shapely, thank you very much.
koby925
Footballguy
My normal runs seem similar to your but add 5-6 beats per minute. Did another one yesterday. 6.5 miles outside. Avg pace for the run was 7:31. Started around 8:00 and 125HR and gradually worked down to low 7s for last 2. Hear rate was consistently 134-136 except it hit 140 maintaining 7:25 pace uphill and hit 139-140 at the end when I was running low 7 min pace. I still want to test HR on a long run and for some speed but this seems to be my normal run sweet spot.Got some more HR data today. Progressed from the slower range of my easy/recovery run pace to the faster range.Agree I need to do more threshold work and that I can bring the 10k and Half times down but let's not get crazy.I knew it! You have a lot of room to improve in your 10k/Half with more threshold work. Those HR numbers at 7x pace aren't that much higher than my data for that range.
Tried a truer recovery run yesterday (6 miles in average of 7:43 pace) and the HR was pretty consistently between 128-132.
Treadmill run (recently calibrated) @ 6000-6300 ft altitude
Mile 1 - 8:00 (AHR - 119)
Mile 2 - 7:53 (AHR - 122)
Mile 3 - 7:47 (AHR - 124)
Mile 4 - 7:41 (AHR - 127)
Mile 5 - 7:35 (AHR - 130)
Mile 6 - 7:30 (AHR - 132)
Mile 7 - 7:24 (AHR - 133)
(quick 3 min bathroom break).. ran next half mile in @ 7:30 pace to get back heart rate back up again then...
Mile 7.5-8.5 - 7:13 (AHR - 135)
Mile 8.5-9.5 - 6:58 (AHR - 137)
Ned
Footballguy
Maybe just found the spark to wake my ### up from this lull.... I was invited to run with some coworkers at Ragnar DC in September. Why does it feel more awkward to go do this with some coworkers I've never met face to face than it would be to run with a bunch of you knuckleheads? 
I'm pretty fired up about this - I've always wanted to run a Ragnar.
Aside from some wind, Sunday's 10 miler is shaping up to be perfect weather. Wish I was in better shape...
I'm pretty fired up about this - I've always wanted to run a Ragnar.
Aside from some wind, Sunday's 10 miler is shaping up to be perfect weather. Wish I was in better shape...
Ned
Footballguy
DOW is closed now (4PM close).
https://www.google.com/finance?q=INDEXDJX%3A.DJI&ei=KmDQUqj4Gavh0wG0rQE
Nigel
Footballguy
I posted in this thread a little bit a few years ago leading up to a half marathon, and then for a short time afterwards. Then I went off the grid.
The half was in October 2010 and I ran a 1:50 which was a great time for me, I was never much of a runner before and my goal when I started training was 2hrs. Then I set out to train for a fast (for me) Thanksgiving 5K with a sub 21 or 22min (I forget exactly) goal. Whatever it was Id done a practice run the weekend before and only missed by 10 or 15 sec so I knew I could crush it in a race. Then the race went horribly wrong.
I ran the first mile in 7 minutes but had to stop, couldnt breathe, felt like my heart was going to explode out of my chest. I walked/jogged in to finish around 28min, and I felt like death. I was wearing a heart rate monitor and when I downloaded the data it showed some insane numbers, I forget exactly but well over 200bpm at points. I should have gone right from the race to the hospital but instead I sat down for 15 min, got my body settled, had a couple of beers at the host bar and went home and enjoyed Thanksgiving Day as usual.
I did some looking online and speculated at the time (to myself, no mention to anyone else) that I had Atrial Fibrillation (AF), a condition where the top chambers of the heart flutter quickly and erratically, giving the lower chambers that pump blood out to the body an overload of electrical impulses, or signals to pump. The result is that the heart rate can soar even when resting, and even more so when active. But I went out for a couple of runs the following week and felt okay so I put off going to the doc. And then Id have a bad one, and another good one and so on. This went on for a while, kept putting off going to the doc, eventually just stopped running when there were no more good runs to be had. I still felt fine otherwise though with day to day activities, just decided running wasnt for me.
During this past summer I started feeling like crap at times even with doing regular stuff like yard work, running up a couple of flights of stairs, etc. I finally made an appointment for a physical. Part of my hang up before, and one of my excuses for not going, was that my longtime primary guy retired in 2009 and I never found a replacement doc. I had not been sick at all since and had stopped with the annual visits. But in August I finally got a recommendation for a guy at Mass General here in Boston and made an appointment for an October 15 physical, the first opening he had. In the meantime, between the time I made the appointment and the time I went my body was tanking. There were so many signs looking back that should have made me go right to the ER but I kept thinking Ive got the 10/15 date. Id find out whats up then. And I kept it all to myself. Did not miss work, coached my kids teams, socialized, went to parties.all was good as far as anyone else knew. The weekend leading up to my 10/15 appointment was Columbus Day weekend. That Friday night wife and I went out to dinner with four other couples. After a few bites of dinner I went to the bathroom and puked. I texted her to meet me at the car and I spent the next three days on the couch with feeling awful with a "bug". I knew it wasn't a bug.
I showed up for my appointment Tues and told my new doc Id been feeling lousy: no energy, easily breathless, no appetite, nausea when I did eat, waking up at night struggling to get a good breath, persistent congestion in my chest, etc. He skipped the normal stuff youd usually do and hooked me up to an EKG, looked at the results and called an ambulance to bring me to the MA General ER. At the ER the a-fib diagnosis was immediate. My resting heart rate was fluctuating between 130 and 190! The ER folks told me I had to be admitted so they could get my heart into a normal (sinus) rhythm, hopefully with medication but in the unlikely case that didnt work they would do a cardioversion where they reset the heart by shocking it back to rhythm think hospital tv show where they do the paddle thing where the body convulses off the table. The ER nurses thought Id be there a couple of days at worst.
The larger problem wasnt the a-fib though, it was heart failure. HEART ####### FAILURE!! I still hate to use the term, but thats what I have. They did an echo-cardiogram to measure my ejection fraction (EF, the % of blood expelled from heart with each beat). Normal range is 55-70%, mine was 15% (aka really ####### low), and my heart was enlarged. Theory is Ive been in a-fib for years and that beating at that fast a rate for such a long time did some serious damage. How I was living like this was a mystery to everyone. I had docs coming and going talking about quality of life, survival rates, transplants. WTF???
This post is getting way too long so Ill skip a bunch of detail but it took 12 days of mixing and matching meds to get me stable to the point where I could leave the hospital. Id lost 23 lbs, nearly all of it water weight. When your hearts not pumping it cant get rid of water. Oddly I was the same weight as Id been for years, mid 190s, but towards the end I was eating next to nothing. So any weight I would have lost for lack of food I was keeping on in water. When I finally left I had to wear a Zoll LifeVest, an external defibrillator worn under the clothes. It looks like a giant bra with a bunch of electrodes and wires attached to monitor my heart, and the whole thing is attached to a battery the size of an early 90s cell phone that I had to wear attached to a sling over my shoulder - like a large purse, 24 hours/day (could take off for showers). If I went into cardiac arrest it would shock me back to life, but not before vibrating and warning me, at which point if youre conscious and not really in cardiac arrest you can disarm it. You dont want to be shocked when conscious. I got a lot of warnings, and if youre not quick enough to disarm it starts giving loud, robot-voice warnings telling bystanders to STAND BACK!!. I got several of those at inopportune timesreally ####### embarrassing.
I had to drastically change my diet: reduce salt to a bare minimum (1500 mg/day) cut out caffeine and alcohol altogether, avoid any strenuous activity (I could walk slowly on treadmill, could not lift anything, shovel snow, do anything taxing whatsoever) take the 5 meds Id been prescribed religiously, and restrict liquid intake to 1.5 litres/day. I also had to weigh myself daily to make sure I wasnt putting any water weight back on, and take my BP a couple of times a day. I did all of this religiously through Thanksgiving and the holidays. The goal was to show improvement in EF at my echo-cardiogram scheduled for 10 weeks after discharge. I needed to get my EF to 35% to avoid getting an implanted cardio defibrillator (ICD). I read a ton and it was a real longshot to improve that much that quick.
Well I had the echo Wednesday, and got the results late yesterday afternoon. Im back to 47%!!! MA General is one of the top three places in the world you want to be treated if you have this problem, and this my Dr. is the head of the Heart Center. He did not use the term miraculous but he was floored. Over 3X improvement in that short a time is damn near unheard of. I still have heart failure, there is no cure for it once you have it. I will be on meds for the rest of my life and I will have to stick to a strict diet. It will likely be what gets me in the end but as long as I stick with the program Im not going to die in a couple of years which frankly is what it looked like.
I asked him what I could do physically and he said it was okay to increase the cardio gradually while always being mindful of heart rate and how I feel. Ill likely never run another half marathon or the full marathon I always wanted to run but never did, or try to set PRs in 5K. But after three months of being a miserable, depressed, self-loathing (so much guilt, why didnt I go to the doctor three years ago????) ##### I jogged a single 10 minute mile on the treadmill today at lunch today and it was the best ####### run of my life.
Looking forward to the next one.
The half was in October 2010 and I ran a 1:50 which was a great time for me, I was never much of a runner before and my goal when I started training was 2hrs. Then I set out to train for a fast (for me) Thanksgiving 5K with a sub 21 or 22min (I forget exactly) goal. Whatever it was Id done a practice run the weekend before and only missed by 10 or 15 sec so I knew I could crush it in a race. Then the race went horribly wrong.
I ran the first mile in 7 minutes but had to stop, couldnt breathe, felt like my heart was going to explode out of my chest. I walked/jogged in to finish around 28min, and I felt like death. I was wearing a heart rate monitor and when I downloaded the data it showed some insane numbers, I forget exactly but well over 200bpm at points. I should have gone right from the race to the hospital but instead I sat down for 15 min, got my body settled, had a couple of beers at the host bar and went home and enjoyed Thanksgiving Day as usual.
I did some looking online and speculated at the time (to myself, no mention to anyone else) that I had Atrial Fibrillation (AF), a condition where the top chambers of the heart flutter quickly and erratically, giving the lower chambers that pump blood out to the body an overload of electrical impulses, or signals to pump. The result is that the heart rate can soar even when resting, and even more so when active. But I went out for a couple of runs the following week and felt okay so I put off going to the doc. And then Id have a bad one, and another good one and so on. This went on for a while, kept putting off going to the doc, eventually just stopped running when there were no more good runs to be had. I still felt fine otherwise though with day to day activities, just decided running wasnt for me.
During this past summer I started feeling like crap at times even with doing regular stuff like yard work, running up a couple of flights of stairs, etc. I finally made an appointment for a physical. Part of my hang up before, and one of my excuses for not going, was that my longtime primary guy retired in 2009 and I never found a replacement doc. I had not been sick at all since and had stopped with the annual visits. But in August I finally got a recommendation for a guy at Mass General here in Boston and made an appointment for an October 15 physical, the first opening he had. In the meantime, between the time I made the appointment and the time I went my body was tanking. There were so many signs looking back that should have made me go right to the ER but I kept thinking Ive got the 10/15 date. Id find out whats up then. And I kept it all to myself. Did not miss work, coached my kids teams, socialized, went to parties.all was good as far as anyone else knew. The weekend leading up to my 10/15 appointment was Columbus Day weekend. That Friday night wife and I went out to dinner with four other couples. After a few bites of dinner I went to the bathroom and puked. I texted her to meet me at the car and I spent the next three days on the couch with feeling awful with a "bug". I knew it wasn't a bug.
I showed up for my appointment Tues and told my new doc Id been feeling lousy: no energy, easily breathless, no appetite, nausea when I did eat, waking up at night struggling to get a good breath, persistent congestion in my chest, etc. He skipped the normal stuff youd usually do and hooked me up to an EKG, looked at the results and called an ambulance to bring me to the MA General ER. At the ER the a-fib diagnosis was immediate. My resting heart rate was fluctuating between 130 and 190! The ER folks told me I had to be admitted so they could get my heart into a normal (sinus) rhythm, hopefully with medication but in the unlikely case that didnt work they would do a cardioversion where they reset the heart by shocking it back to rhythm think hospital tv show where they do the paddle thing where the body convulses off the table. The ER nurses thought Id be there a couple of days at worst.
The larger problem wasnt the a-fib though, it was heart failure. HEART ####### FAILURE!! I still hate to use the term, but thats what I have. They did an echo-cardiogram to measure my ejection fraction (EF, the % of blood expelled from heart with each beat). Normal range is 55-70%, mine was 15% (aka really ####### low), and my heart was enlarged. Theory is Ive been in a-fib for years and that beating at that fast a rate for such a long time did some serious damage. How I was living like this was a mystery to everyone. I had docs coming and going talking about quality of life, survival rates, transplants. WTF???
This post is getting way too long so Ill skip a bunch of detail but it took 12 days of mixing and matching meds to get me stable to the point where I could leave the hospital. Id lost 23 lbs, nearly all of it water weight. When your hearts not pumping it cant get rid of water. Oddly I was the same weight as Id been for years, mid 190s, but towards the end I was eating next to nothing. So any weight I would have lost for lack of food I was keeping on in water. When I finally left I had to wear a Zoll LifeVest, an external defibrillator worn under the clothes. It looks like a giant bra with a bunch of electrodes and wires attached to monitor my heart, and the whole thing is attached to a battery the size of an early 90s cell phone that I had to wear attached to a sling over my shoulder - like a large purse, 24 hours/day (could take off for showers). If I went into cardiac arrest it would shock me back to life, but not before vibrating and warning me, at which point if youre conscious and not really in cardiac arrest you can disarm it. You dont want to be shocked when conscious. I got a lot of warnings, and if youre not quick enough to disarm it starts giving loud, robot-voice warnings telling bystanders to STAND BACK!!. I got several of those at inopportune timesreally ####### embarrassing.
I had to drastically change my diet: reduce salt to a bare minimum (1500 mg/day) cut out caffeine and alcohol altogether, avoid any strenuous activity (I could walk slowly on treadmill, could not lift anything, shovel snow, do anything taxing whatsoever) take the 5 meds Id been prescribed religiously, and restrict liquid intake to 1.5 litres/day. I also had to weigh myself daily to make sure I wasnt putting any water weight back on, and take my BP a couple of times a day. I did all of this religiously through Thanksgiving and the holidays. The goal was to show improvement in EF at my echo-cardiogram scheduled for 10 weeks after discharge. I needed to get my EF to 35% to avoid getting an implanted cardio defibrillator (ICD). I read a ton and it was a real longshot to improve that much that quick.
Well I had the echo Wednesday, and got the results late yesterday afternoon. Im back to 47%!!! MA General is one of the top three places in the world you want to be treated if you have this problem, and this my Dr. is the head of the Heart Center. He did not use the term miraculous but he was floored. Over 3X improvement in that short a time is damn near unheard of. I still have heart failure, there is no cure for it once you have it. I will be on meds for the rest of my life and I will have to stick to a strict diet. It will likely be what gets me in the end but as long as I stick with the program Im not going to die in a couple of years which frankly is what it looked like.
I asked him what I could do physically and he said it was okay to increase the cardio gradually while always being mindful of heart rate and how I feel. Ill likely never run another half marathon or the full marathon I always wanted to run but never did, or try to set PRs in 5K. But after three months of being a miserable, depressed, self-loathing (so much guilt, why didnt I go to the doctor three years ago????) ##### I jogged a single 10 minute mile on the treadmill today at lunch today and it was the best ####### run of my life.
Looking forward to the next one.
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
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Holy ####. Just glad your ticker hung on long enough to get you to MA General! Such a typical dude thing - "I don't need to go see a Doc, I'll be fine. It can wait." Your story is a good reminder that sometimes it shouldn't wait.
Congrats on that mile run today!
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tri-man 47
Footballguy
Well, Nigel takes the early lead for the 2014 year-end reports: "Best memory of another guy's run."
Wow. I know about a-fib (nephew and my wife have both addressed it through the zapping surgical procedure), but man, your experience rises to a whole different dimension. Very best wishes to you ...stay healthy!
Ned
Footballguy
I'm sitting here in shock. What a story.
We came in here at the same time and basically "trained together" for our halves. I had wondered why you had disappeared. Glad to see you're on the upswing!
SC just recently went through an AF diagnosis. His symptoms sounded just like yours. Crazy.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Nigel...reading that is some scary stuff. Both hearing your story as it also brings me the memories of my brother's which is similar (though he wasn't a runner).
His stemmed from a virus that started giving him an enlarged heart as well. Then, the a-fib and heart failure.
He had the vest for a while. And despite diet, light exercise, eating right and avoiding all the other things...his levels did not come up. He had the implant put in about a year ago and is doing fine.
His biggest thing was he wanted to still be able to get out there and play golf again after and he can do that just fine.
His doctor has told him that it is not hereditary in how he has things...but I still get checked during my yearly physical as there are other members of the family on my dad's side that have had a-fib issues.
Good luck to you going forward for sure.
His stemmed from a virus that started giving him an enlarged heart as well. Then, the a-fib and heart failure.
He had the vest for a while. And despite diet, light exercise, eating right and avoiding all the other things...his levels did not come up. He had the implant put in about a year ago and is doing fine.
His biggest thing was he wanted to still be able to get out there and play golf again after and he can do that just fine.
His doctor has told him that it is not hereditary in how he has things...but I still get checked during my yearly physical as there are other members of the family on my dad's side that have had a-fib issues.
Good luck to you going forward for sure.
The DOW close was the lottery.BassNBrew said:
When is the actual lottery?
I'm in. May 17th and 18th. 17 weeks to train.
here's the course. http://www.vhtrc.org/mmt/course.htm
Link to results page. https://www.vhtrc.org/mmt/2013/index.htm
Obviously this will be a challenge.
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
The DOW close was the lottery.BassNBrew said:
When is the actual lottery?
I'm in. May 17th and 18th. 17 weeks to train.
here's the course. http://www.vhtrc.org/mmt/course.htm
Link to results page. https://www.vhtrc.org/mmt/2013/index.htm
Obviously this will be a challenge.
Congrats! That looks like a good one. Some good climbing, but no altitude issues to deal with. Looks like a loop with one little out-and-back section, that should keep things interesting. Healthy 36 hour cutoff shows that it's probably a tough one, although good finishing rate last year. Interesting idea on the "Solo Division" - no crew, no headphones, no pacer. That's a recipe for some serious hallucinations at about the 22 hour mark!
You've got a lot of hours to log in the next 17 weeks!
Looks like only one person broke 20 hours last year and breaking 24 hours is roughly a top ten finish. I think it's around 104 miles.The DOW close was the lottery.BassNBrew said:
When is the actual lottery?
I'm in. May 17th and 18th. 17 weeks to train.
here's the course. http://www.vhtrc.org/mmt/course.htm
Link to results page. https://www.vhtrc.org/mmt/2013/index.htm
Obviously this will be a challenge.
Congrats! That looks like a good one. Some good climbing, but no altitude issues to deal with. Looks like a loop with one little out-and-back section, that should keep things interesting. Healthy 36 hour cutoff shows that it's probably a tough one, although good finishing rate last year. Interesting idea on the "Solo Division" - no crew, no headphones, no pacer. That's a recipe for some serious hallucinations at about the 22 hour mark!
You've got a lot of hours to log in the next 17 weeks!
gruecd
Footballguy
What, whoever guessed closest or something?
This is the kind of story that makes me want to squeeze every ounce I have out of myself while I have the opportunity. Thanks for sharing.I'm sitting here in shock. What a story.
We came in here at the same time and basically "trained together" for our halves. I had wondered why you had disappeared. Glad to see you're on the upswing!
SC just recently went through an AF diagnosis. His symptoms sounded just like yours. Crazy.
Sand
Footballguy
Just looked at the course profile. Condolences?
Nigel - glad you're ok!
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On my end, a nice 50 mile ride today in very nice weather. 60 degrees and sun. Though the 20mph gusty winds were a bit of a bear. Still, a good start to the biking season.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
BnB - congrats on getting in to the race! Good luck with the training!!!
beer 302
Footballguy
Damn skippy you are! Wow, what a read. Glad it worked out, sounds like you were pretty close to it not. Agree with what Steve said, makes me appreciate every run that much more.
I don't know if you've met you but I suspect you'll be top 5. Congratulations on getting in!!
beer 302
Footballguy
So I had a good day today, wanted to get in 20 per the the training plan I'm on but Mother Nature had other plans. It started raining last night with 100% chance today. Sure enough she didn't disappoint with a pretty solid downpour on the way to the woods. The group all arrives, the seas part and the rain lets up long enough for us to make plans. I was doing the 50k loop which is 10.5 miles solo so I took off. The trails were slick with standing water everywhere. Just as I got into the woods, it let loose again and didn't let up until I finished. It was a fun run, covered in mud, think running through a stream for 2 hours. About 4 miles in I realize I've either lost or locked my key in my truck. This presented a problem as to what to do. There was no one back at the parking lot that could help out since we were all running so I decided to finish the loop. As time went on I convinced myself that in my haste to get on the trails I not only locked my keys in the truck but left it open as well. After this epiphany I enjoyed the run confident there were dry clothes & hydration in my near future (I didn't carry anything on this run). As I got to the truck my confidence in my stupidity was rewarded with a locked door.
Now what to do? The crew had taken off as they all ran short today so I was in the lot all alone with my hone locked in the truck. As I pondered my situation I realized that in this age of technology I no longer retain phone numbers, they have all morphed into names so even if I had a cell phone to use it would do me little good. Well I wanted to get in two loops and I was about 7 miles from home so off I went. That run home was pretty rough but I made it. To further compound things I only have one key to the truck and once AAA opened it up the key was not on the ring. There was a drenched note on my windshield from a good samaritan that found the key out on the trail and turned it in. I was floored. I was afraid it was gone for good because the trail is covered in leaves, mud & muck so finding a key over a 10 mile loop is equivalent to a needle in a haystack. Very thankful for all that occurred to me today and got some decent mileage in as well.
The entire run home it didn't rain a drop, as soon as I got there it let loose again and is still raining. 17 miles with 0 hydration was a bit taxing but the weather conditions made it bearable. Temp got up to 60 on the run home but it never felt that warm.
Oh, some sweet swag posted today for the 50k!
Now what to do? The crew had taken off as they all ran short today so I was in the lot all alone with my hone locked in the truck. As I pondered my situation I realized that in this age of technology I no longer retain phone numbers, they have all morphed into names so even if I had a cell phone to use it would do me little good. Well I wanted to get in two loops and I was about 7 miles from home so off I went. That run home was pretty rough but I made it. To further compound things I only have one key to the truck and once AAA opened it up the key was not on the ring. There was a drenched note on my windshield from a good samaritan that found the key out on the trail and turned it in. I was floored. I was afraid it was gone for good because the trail is covered in leaves, mud & muck so finding a key over a 10 mile loop is equivalent to a needle in a haystack. Very thankful for all that occurred to me today and got some decent mileage in as well.
The entire run home it didn't rain a drop, as soon as I got there it let loose again and is still raining. 17 miles with 0 hydration was a bit taxing but the weather conditions made it bearable. Temp got up to 60 on the run home but it never felt that warm.
Oh, some sweet swag posted today for the 50k!
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tri-man 47
Footballguy
This year is certainly getting off to an unusual start.
When we signed up we were given a random number between 000 and 999 (so about 2/3 of the numbers weren't assigned). The last three digits of the DOW became the starting point of the lottery. The close on Friday was 16,437.05 so the number was 705. Since the close was down, they started with number 705 and worked their way down the random number list until they had 208 entrants. The guy with 705 was the first entrant, the guy with 709 was screwed. My number was 294 so I got in as the 136th person. The has to go down the list to 114 to pick up the 208th person. Someone held number 113 so they were on the outside looking in. If the DOW had finished up with the same xxxx7.05 close, I would have missed out by 14 slots as they would have worked the other direction and stopped at 250, 44 short of my number.
worrierking
Footballguy
Wow, BnB, that's awesome. Good luck on the training,.
Nigel, the people here are a very supportive bunch. You will get tremendous encouragement whether you are running a one-mile TM jog or a 100-mile race. Stick around and keep us updated on your progress.
Nigel, the people here are a very supportive bunch. You will get tremendous encouragement whether you are running a one-mile TM jog or a 100-mile race. Stick around and keep us updated on your progress.
Prince Myshkin
Footballguy
A really good 6.5 mile run for me this morning (actually 6.55 - half of a half 
) except for one very important lesson learned.
SOCKS MATTER! Somehow all my good running socks were in the laundry basket (perhaps a sign we need to do laundry a little more frequently as I have umpteen pairs of them) so I threw on the closest thing I had...some Nike mostly cotton with elastic stuff in the mid-foot area. By about mile 4, the elastic parts had rubbed blisters on both feet. It was a real shame considering how good my legs, lungs, and achilles was feeling!
(BTW Triman - my wife successfully defended her dissertation this week! After a day of celebrating, I think she went through the post-marathon blues for the past couple of days. Be prepared!)
) except for one very important lesson learned.SOCKS MATTER! Somehow all my good running socks were in the laundry basket (perhaps a sign we need to do laundry a little more frequently as I have umpteen pairs of them) so I threw on the closest thing I had...some Nike mostly cotton with elastic stuff in the mid-foot area. By about mile 4, the elastic parts had rubbed blisters on both feet. It was a real shame considering how good my legs, lungs, and achilles was feeling!
(BTW Triman - my wife successfully defended her dissertation this week! After a day of celebrating, I think she went through the post-marathon blues for the past couple of days. Be prepared!)
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Prince Myshkin
Footballguy
Nigel - glad you are OK. amazing story!
BnB - congrats (i think). that pic on the website of the guy running on those rocks is pretty crazy stuff.
Beer - I always worry about doing that with my keys. Very fortunate to find them! I found a guys cell phone like that about a year ago.
BnB - congrats (i think). that pic on the website of the guy running on those rocks is pretty crazy stuff.
Beer - I always worry about doing that with my keys. Very fortunate to find them! I found a guys cell phone like that about a year ago.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Prince, I've always been a fan of good socks. We can last a lot longer when the sox are good.
Congrats to Dr. Myshkin!
If she's feeling a little out of sorts, tell her to pick one of her "future research" ideas and start planning. It's like our running, right? ...always good to have an event on the calendar to keep us motivated. Drop me a PM ...I'm interested to know her field and dissertation topic.
ChiefD
Footballguy
New Running Shoe Day. I swear, it's like Christmas. Been running with the Mizuno Wave Rider's for the last year. They have been an ok shoe: my first actual running shoe I ever bought. We have a good running store here in KC, so I went and got fitted properly.
I'm guessing I'll go with them again, as I've had really no blister problems to speak of. They just never felt "comfortable", if that makes sense. But, I have had minimal leg issues other than normal soreness, so maybe they are doing their job. Heading to the store now.
I'm guessing I'll go with them again, as I've had really no blister problems to speak of. They just never felt "comfortable", if that makes sense. But, I have had minimal leg issues other than normal soreness, so maybe they are doing their job. Heading to the store now.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
First true training session of the year today. Kind of "ugh," but gotta start somewhere. I was hoping for warmer temps, but it was still mid-30s and windy when I ran.
3 x 1 mile:
7:36 154 HR
7:33 159 HR
7:16 166 HR
Some of it seemed to be getting acclimated again to running at a higher HR (normal HM would be low/mid 170s).
3 x 1 mile:
7:36 154 HR
7:33 159 HR
7:16 166 HR
Some of it seemed to be getting acclimated again to running at a higher HR (normal HM would be low/mid 170s).
gruecd
Footballguy
My gf wants to do Warrior Dash (ughh) this year. I am always trying to get her to run or workout with me so I told her I would sign us up. Should be fun since 2 of my sisters and my nephew are also doing it.
Anyways, is there any discount codes or anything you guys know of so I don't end up paying $60 each + other BS fees for this stupid thing?
I noticed they still do the "wave groups". Do they enforce those at all, or could we just jump in the group with my sisters if we can't get into that one?
Anyways, is there any discount codes or anything you guys know of so I don't end up paying $60 each + other BS fees for this stupid thing?
I noticed they still do the "wave groups". Do they enforce those at all, or could we just jump in the group with my sisters if we can't get into that one?
That isn't very Christian. But I guess we aren't exactly models of faith since we have 2 kids and aren't married.
MAC_32
Footballguy
i justified it by saying I was going for a run in the park and they just happened to be there that day.Then we drank all the beer.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
got to run 6 today outside. first time outside in several days. Funny how much i looked forward to it.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Hey, we're waiting to hear of your possible interest in a June race ...maybe in southern Wisconsin (accessible to a couple of you cheeseheads and the Chicago folks). Where are you up there? We couldn't remember.
Ran my 5k benchmark on Sat - 29'37", 159 hr, 9'31 pace. Splits were 8'35" / 159 hr, 10'05" / 162 hr, and 9'55" / 157 hr. Wow that was an eye opener. Rememeber the days not to long ago when a 10 min pace was a 135-138 hr.
Track was closed yesterday so I did some hill repeats. 10 reps up a 50 foot 0.11 mile hill. Ended up at 522 ft climbing over 2.3 miles (including the return down). 10'54" pace over 25 minutes of work.
About the only positive is that I did drop 5 pounds last week.
Track was closed yesterday so I did some hill repeats. 10 reps up a 50 foot 0.11 mile hill. Ended up at 522 ft climbing over 2.3 miles (including the return down). 10'54" pace over 25 minutes of work.
About the only positive is that I did drop 5 pounds last week.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Been going slow and steady 5 milers for the last couple of weeks I guess.
Just testing out how my knee will be feeling.
The good news is it seems to be handling running ok. Gets a bit stiffer as Im winding down the run and right after I finish.
The bad...is later that day and the next...it just seems sore on and off. Seems like something I will have to deal with for a little while and keep getting checked out to make sure Im not screwing myself up...but the doctor seemed ok with my running plans.
Just testing out how my knee will be feeling.
The good news is it seems to be handling running ok. Gets a bit stiffer as Im winding down the run and right after I finish.
The bad...is later that day and the next...it just seems sore on and off. Seems like something I will have to deal with for a little while and keep getting checked out to make sure Im not screwing myself up...but the doctor seemed ok with my running plans.
Ned
Footballguy
2014 Icicle 10 Miler
With the crazy cold weather we've been having, you'd think a run called the Icicle would be a lock to be a cold one... But it was perfect. Partly cloudy, 40 degrees and a slight wind. I met up with my sister and comfortably numb and had thoughts of running with them and just having fun. I ultimately decided to just race the race and see what happens.
This course isn't Duck hilly, but it's a challenging one if you don't prepare for it (~800' of climbing). Mile 1 is downhill, 2 is some rolling hills, 3-4 is a solid/consistent climb that kicks my ###. Get to the turnaround point at 6 and get to reverse the course. So you can really fly at the end if you've paced right. Mile 9.25 has a pretty nasty, but relatively short hill. I always hit my max HR on that sadistic thing.
I planned to go out easy and get settled in. Just don't over-do it and have a miserable time since I'm not in shape. I also had our archery club's first ever indoor tournament to get to immediately after this so I didn't want to be so wasted that I couldn't compete.
First 2 miles I settled in nicely, although I didn't do what I said I was going to do. I remember looking down at the watch at around 0.3 and saw a 6:48 pace. You friggin' numbnut. I backed it way off at that point, which was hard on the downhills and all of the people flying by me. I settled into a good rhythm and noticed I felt much better than any of my previous training runs. Is this for real? Nah I'm gonna hit the wall sooner or later...
I quickly learned as I climbed the hills on miles 3 and 4 that I was having one of those days. People that flew by me on mile 1 were now going backwards. I must've picked off 20+ people on the hills. I told myself... "stop running scared - go get this". I picked it up at the top of the last hill and really started to work. First half was 38:48 (7:46 pace).
I pushed moderately hard from miles 5-8. I couldn't believe how strong I felt. Sure I was running downhill for 2 miles, but wow. WTF is this coming from?! I've run roughly 125mi since November. I shouldn't have this kind of endurance.... At mile 8.5 I settled in with a few runners and I just knew I was going to be able to take them on the hill at 9.25. I settled down and tried to get a quick breath before the hill came. Sure enough, I picked off 5 or 6 people on the hill. Got to the top and realized I still had something left and just opened it up for the last half mile. I was full bore wheezing. People I was passing looked at me with that WTF look. I loved it. Second half was 36:27 (7:17 pace).
Final time was 1:15:15 which is a course PR (-1:09 last year). Ridiculous. I placed 107/519 OA, 13/39 AG. There are some studs at this race... Top 3 in my AG ran 53, 55, and 62 mins. Yeesh.
splits: 7:25/169, 7:59/179, 8:04/185, 8:36/186, 8:02/184, 7:30/186, 7:28/186, 7:39/184, 7:33/184, 7:19/189 (hit 195hr on that hill)
Maybe this is a lesson in freshness? Usually when I get home from one of these races, getting out of the car is brutal. But yesterday I felt like I do when I finish a regular 8mi MLR or something. Even this morning I've got only a tiny bit of soreness, but feel like I could go for a 8 miler if I had to. Regardless, I'm pretty siked about this run. It's certainly woken me up...
With the crazy cold weather we've been having, you'd think a run called the Icicle would be a lock to be a cold one... But it was perfect. Partly cloudy, 40 degrees and a slight wind. I met up with my sister and comfortably numb and had thoughts of running with them and just having fun. I ultimately decided to just race the race and see what happens.
This course isn't Duck hilly, but it's a challenging one if you don't prepare for it (~800' of climbing). Mile 1 is downhill, 2 is some rolling hills, 3-4 is a solid/consistent climb that kicks my ###. Get to the turnaround point at 6 and get to reverse the course. So you can really fly at the end if you've paced right. Mile 9.25 has a pretty nasty, but relatively short hill. I always hit my max HR on that sadistic thing.
I planned to go out easy and get settled in. Just don't over-do it and have a miserable time since I'm not in shape. I also had our archery club's first ever indoor tournament to get to immediately after this so I didn't want to be so wasted that I couldn't compete.
First 2 miles I settled in nicely, although I didn't do what I said I was going to do. I remember looking down at the watch at around 0.3 and saw a 6:48 pace. You friggin' numbnut. I backed it way off at that point, which was hard on the downhills and all of the people flying by me. I settled into a good rhythm and noticed I felt much better than any of my previous training runs. Is this for real? Nah I'm gonna hit the wall sooner or later...
I quickly learned as I climbed the hills on miles 3 and 4 that I was having one of those days. People that flew by me on mile 1 were now going backwards. I must've picked off 20+ people on the hills. I told myself... "stop running scared - go get this". I picked it up at the top of the last hill and really started to work. First half was 38:48 (7:46 pace).
I pushed moderately hard from miles 5-8. I couldn't believe how strong I felt. Sure I was running downhill for 2 miles, but wow. WTF is this coming from?! I've run roughly 125mi since November. I shouldn't have this kind of endurance.... At mile 8.5 I settled in with a few runners and I just knew I was going to be able to take them on the hill at 9.25. I settled down and tried to get a quick breath before the hill came. Sure enough, I picked off 5 or 6 people on the hill. Got to the top and realized I still had something left and just opened it up for the last half mile. I was full bore wheezing. People I was passing looked at me with that WTF look. I loved it. Second half was 36:27 (7:17 pace).
Final time was 1:15:15 which is a course PR (-1:09 last year). Ridiculous. I placed 107/519 OA, 13/39 AG. There are some studs at this race... Top 3 in my AG ran 53, 55, and 62 mins. Yeesh.
splits: 7:25/169, 7:59/179, 8:04/185, 8:36/186, 8:02/184, 7:30/186, 7:28/186, 7:39/184, 7:33/184, 7:19/189 (hit 195hr on that hill)
Maybe this is a lesson in freshness? Usually when I get home from one of these races, getting out of the car is brutal. But yesterday I felt like I do when I finish a regular 8mi MLR or something. Even this morning I've got only a tiny bit of soreness, but feel like I could go for a 8 miler if I had to.
Regardless, I'm pretty siked about this run. It's certainly woken me up...
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