Ran a 10k in June (10 Viewers)

[IvanKaramazov]

Ran my 2nd half marathon a week ago in Oakland. While it was fun, I was bummed with my performance. Was on pace to hit a 2:03 finish through about 7 1/2 miles, but then had major leg fatigue in miles 7.5-11. Finished strong at the end, but it was too late to hit my time.

Any advice from the grizzled veterans? Seems like I need to build leg strength and endurance.....possibly just stick to more rigorous training. Appreciate any and all suggestions.

Run more miles.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Ran my 2nd half marathon a week ago in Oakland. While it was fun, I was bummed with my performance. Was on pace to hit a 2:03 finish through about 7 1/2 miles, but then had major leg fatigue in miles 7.5-11. Finished strong at the end, but it was too late to hit my time.

Any advice from the grizzled veterans? Seems like I need to build leg strength and endurance.....possibly just stick to more rigorous training. Appreciate any and all suggestions.

I don't like this word "rigorous". As others have mentioned, more miles is likely the answer but the vast majority of them should be easy. To me, "rigorous" is code for running hard (fast!). Doing that too frequently will not allow your body to recover between runs messing up your training and possibly making you more likely to get injured.

 

[tri-man 47]

Ran my 2nd half marathon a week ago in Oakland. While it was fun, I was bummed with my performance. Was on pace to hit a 2:03 finish through about 7 1/2 miles, but then had major leg fatigue in miles 7.5-11. Finished strong at the end, but it was too late to hit my time.

Any advice from the grizzled veterans? Seems like I need to build leg strength and endurance.....possibly just stick to more rigorous training. Appreciate any and all suggestions.

The fatigue could have been the travel catching up with you, too. Or was it just a lot warmer or more humid than you're use to here in the Midwest? If your training mileage has been decent, then you could look to add more hill training or possibly some long repeats (for HMs, I like to target some 2-mile repeats).

 

[BassNBrew]

Had a killer trail run on Friday. 3 mile out and back (6 total) which included 1100 ft of climbing and the 3/4 mile Pond Creek Gorge. Other than getting lost and having to bush whack through mountain laurel, I had a great run. Excited to see the data, but I flew up some technical terrain with snow remnants. Unfortunately I didn't follow that up with any mileage this weekend. Soccer on Saturday and general adversion to the cold and wind on Sunday. Back at home now and the temps are headed to the 70s and 80s this week.

 

[SFBayDuck]

Ok, this 300lb dude just put in 8 miles in 2:20 and in happy to say no shin splints this time!

I know it's laughable compared to you studs, but to think 5 weeks ago I was dying at a mile, I've come a long way.

Tips, tricks, and suggestions appreciated as the SO and I are doing the Mini Marathon here in Indy May 3rd.

kick ###! These stories never get old. Biggest thing is to play it conservatively. Be careful not to bite off more than you can chew. Tri's advice is right on the money.

Agreed on both - very cool story, and listen to the old guys like tri.

 

[SFBayDuck]

Ran my 2nd half marathon a week ago in Oakland. While it was fun, I was bummed with my performance. Was on pace to hit a 2:03 finish through about 7 1/2 miles, but then had major leg fatigue in miles 7.5-11. Finished strong at the end, but it was too late to hit my time.

Any advice from the grizzled veterans? Seems like I need to build leg strength and endurance.....possibly just stick to more rigorous training. Appreciate any and all suggestions.

I don't like this word "rigorous". As others have mentioned, more miles is likely the answer but the vast majority of them should be easy. To me, "rigorous" is code for running hard (fast!). Doing that too frequently will not allow your body to recover between runs messing up your training and possibly making you more likely to get injured.

It's interesting that you had trouble for just a few miles in the middle of the race and then felt good again and finished well. Could it have been environmental issues - hills, headwind, you were running behind a hottie through 7 1/2 miles but then she dropped you? What was your nutrition/hyrdration before the race, up to that point, and then afterward?

 

[SFBayDuck]

Had a killer trail run on Friday. 3 mile out and back (6 total) which included 1100 ft of climbing and the 3/4 mile Pond Creek Gorge. Other than getting lost and having to bush whack through mountain laurel, I had a great run. Excited to see the data, but I flew up some technical terrain with snow remnants. Unfortunately I didn't follow that up with any mileage this weekend. Soccer on Saturday and general adversion to the cold and wind on Sunday. Back at home now and the temps are headed to the 70s and 80s this week.

Now that sounds fun.

I was up in Portland again last week helping out with my Dad and giving my Mom a bit of a break. He was moved from the hospital to a skilled nursing facility on Thursday, but he's had continued (and mysterious) health issues that have kept the rehab for his brain injury from really getting started. We're hoping he's stabilized enough now to start taking advantage of PT/OT/ST and can start to actually heal now.

I did manage to get out for a few runs while up there. On Thursday I found a Nature Park about 20 minutes from my parents house that had a couple of miles of nice and smooth trails, and I knocked out a couple of loops for 5 1/2 miles with 1,000' of climbing. Saturday I actually did a road run of 4 1/2 miles, and was reminded how much faster one can move when the grades are all below 10%, with only 234' of elevation total. But I made up for that on Sunday by heading out to Forest Park for 15 muddy miles with 2,600'+ of elevation, much more my style.

 

[jb1020]

Whats the trick to improving your turnover rate? I'm slowly coming back from the ankle sprain so I decided it would be good to focus on a few things I don't normally think about.

Everywhere I read the goal is 180 per minute. Every time I check it I'm 160ish. Does getting up to 180 come with speed? The few times I've remembered to count I'm running a 9:45-10 minute pace.

 

[Hang 10]

Whats the trick to improving your turnover rate? I'm slowly coming back from the ankle sprain so I decided it would be good to focus on a few things I don't normally think about.

Everywhere I read the goal is 180 per minute. Every time I check it I'm 160ish. Does getting up to 180 come with speed? The few times I've remembered to count I'm running a 9:45-10 minute pace.

Find a slight down hill and let gravity work.

 

[tri-man 47]

Whats the trick to improving your turnover rate? I'm slowly coming back from the ankle sprain so I decided it would be good to focus on a few things I don't normally think about.

Everywhere I read the goal is 180 per minute. Every time I check it I'm 160ish. Does getting up to 180 come with speed? The few times I've remembered to count I'm running a 9:45-10 minute pace.

Speed will certainly play a part. Are you a heel-striker? That can slow the pace as you land on the heel and rotate through. You might try running some 50-75 yard accelerations on a track or straightaway ...see what if feels like to accelerate into a quick-step pace. Doing so, you'll really need to run more on the balls of your feet, and you'll probably feel it in your quads due to the backward leg kick on the strides.

 

[Annyong]

I skipped my run today to drink beer and watch baseball.

 

[beer 302]

Whats the trick to improving your turnover rate? I'm slowly coming back from the ankle sprain so I decided it would be good to focus on a few things I don't normally think about.

Everywhere I read the goal is 180 per minute. Every time I check it I'm 160ish. Does getting up to 180 come with speed? The few times I've remembered to count I'm running a 9:45-10 minute pace.

Speed will certainly play a part. Are you a heel-striker? That can slow the pace as you land on the heel and rotate through. You might try running some 50-75 yard accelerations on a track or straightaway ...see what if feels like to accelerate into a quick-step pace. Doing so, you'll really need to run more on the balls of your feet, and you'll probably feel it in your quads due to the backward leg kick on the strides.

Might sound goofy but try leaning forward ever so slightly and see if that small shift doesn't put you more on the balls of your feet as opposed to your heels. I've been playing around with that lately and noticed a difference. Just be careful you don't go overboard, it's a very slight adjustment.

 

[wilked]

There is plenty of music at 180 bpm. Let the music do the hard work for you

http://open.spotify.com/user/brentrose/playlist/6qKU9nHoKJqalKN11kiXPV

 

[beer 302]

Found a new race for BnB, the Barkley Marathon.

Yea, so that sounds fun

 

[jb1020]

Thanks for the info guys. I have a pretty good mid to forefoot strike these days. This was another little project I had to work on a year or so ago.

I haven't done intervals in a while, might get back into that . I like the music idea too. I hung up the head phones about two years ago but recently broke them back out after learning about Bluetooth ear buds . Wires used to drive me crazy.

 

[chauncey]

Bought my first pair of Brooks shoes today, these things fit like gloves on my feet. I've been running on Nike Vomeros for two years because they were on sale and looked good . Got home and took off for 7mi to break them in, felt great and ran the first 3 about :45 seconds faster than my normal pace. It's the shoes!

Finished March with 118, back to back 100+ mile months for me, a first. Now that my foundation quarter is over I'm looking forward to doing some actual workout runs and getting the pace down to the 8x territory.

Appreciate what you all do and this thread, it helps keep me accountable and hungry for more.

 

[Otis]

You guys love running!

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Ran my 2nd half marathon a week ago in Oakland. While it was fun, I was bummed with my performance. Was on pace to hit a 2:03 finish through about 7 1/2 miles, but then had major leg fatigue in miles 7.5-11. Finished strong at the end, but it was too late to hit my time.

Any advice from the grizzled veterans? Seems like I need to build leg strength and endurance.....possibly just stick to more rigorous training. Appreciate any and all suggestions.

I don't like this word "rigorous". As others have mentioned, more miles is likely the answer but the vast majority of them should be easy. To me, "rigorous" is code for running hard (fast!). Doing that too frequently will not allow your body to recover between runs messing up your training and possibly making you more likely to get injured.

Thanks for all the suggestions in here. Pretty clear that I just need to out in more miles.....on long runs. My use of rigorous was a poor choice. Not sure what word was better, but basically I didn't do a great job if sticking perfectly to my schedule of long runs. My first HM I struggled with nutrition and speed.....was frankly just too plodding. This time, speed wasn't an issue,.....endurance/leg fatigue was. So I learn so,etching new each time. More miles this time, at a measured pace!

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Ran my 2nd half marathon a week ago in Oakland. While it was fun, I was bummed with my performance. Was on pace to hit a 2:03 finish through about 7 1/2 miles, but then had major leg fatigue in miles 7.5-11. Finished strong at the end, but it was too late to hit my time.

Any advice from the grizzled veterans? Seems like I need to build leg strength and endurance.....possibly just stick to more rigorous training. Appreciate any and all suggestions.

The fatigue could have been the travel catching up with you, too. Or was it just a lot warmer or more humid than you're use to here in the Midwest? If your training mileage has been decent, then you could look to add more hill training or possibly some long repeats (for HMs, I like to target some 2-mile repeats).

Yeah, the heat wasn't really a factor. I've trained indoors at Northwestern a bunch, and frankly it is warmer there than it was in Oakland. Just didn't run enough long distance. Had a major illness about 4-5 weeks out.....and that might have contributed a bit. Lost about 5 LBs in 1.5 weeks. Not cool.Mrs APK says hi. Thx for advice!

 

[Hang 10]

Bought my first pair of Brooks shoes today, these things fit like gloves on my feet. I've been running on Nike Vomeros for two years because they were on sale and looked good . Got home and took off for 7mi to break them in, felt great and ran the first 3 about :45 seconds faster than my normal pace. It's the shoes!

Finished March with 118, back to back 100+ mile months for me, a first. Now that my foundation quarter is over I'm looking forward to doing some actual workout runs and getting the pace down to the 8x territory.

Appreciate what you all do and this thread, it helps keep me accountable and hungry for more.

Which flavor of Brooks?

 

[parasaurolophus]

Had an awful run yesterday. Threw in the towel at 2.1 miles. Couldnt breathe, legs hurt and felt like lead weights. I must not be fully recovered from my bout with a stomach virus that had me vomiting my guts out. I am sure all of the walking in DC contributed too. Going to give it a go tonight again and hope for better results.

Have a half marathon on saturday and had wanted to get in one more run of at least 7-8 miles. Realized my race calendar is getting a little full coming up here too. Three halfs and a full on the books before summer.

 

[tri-man 47]

You guys love running!

The running feels great, plus we get to see a lot of skinny young ladies.

 

[FUBAR]

You guys love running!

The running feels great, plus we get to see a lot of skinny young ladies.

That, and the feeling of having a young lady watching you is good incentive.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Had an awful run yesterday. Threw in the towel at 2.1 miles. Couldnt breathe, legs hurt and felt like lead weights. I must not be fully recovered from my bout with a stomach virus that had me vomiting my guts out. I am sure all of the walking in DC contributed too. Going to give it a go tonight again and hope for better results.

Have a half marathon on saturday and had wanted to get in one more run of at least 7-8 miles. Realized my race calendar is getting a little full coming up here too. Three halfs and a full on the books before summer.

Don't sweat it. A 7-8 miler during race week does absolutely nothing for your performance on race day, and it sounds like you need the extra rest to recover from your virus. That's way more important than an middle-distance training run.

 

[Ned]

Had an awful run yesterday. Threw in the towel at 2.1 miles. Couldnt breathe, legs hurt and felt like lead weights. I must not be fully recovered from my bout with a stomach virus that had me vomiting my guts out. I am sure all of the walking in DC contributed too. Going to give it a go tonight again and hope for better results.

Have a half marathon on saturday and had wanted to get in one more run of at least 7-8 miles. Realized my race calendar is getting a little full coming up here too. Three halfs and a full on the books before summer.

Don't sweat it. A 7-8 miler during race week does absolutely nothing for your performance on race day, and it sounds like you need the extra rest to recover from your virus. That's way more important than an middle-distance training run.

The hay is in the barn! /tri

 

[BassNBrew]

http://www.movescount.com/moves/move28716368

Here's the link to the Pond Creek Gorge run. The sub 20 min pace back up the heart of the gorge was the highlight with 142m of technical climbing.

 

[BassNBrew]

2h 3m run last nite which was a mix of road and the Davidson college x-country course. Watch/gps was finicky last nite so it had me at 14.86 miles but I estimate closer to 12.5 to 13 miles. Zone 2 out and zone 2/3 back resulted in a one minute quicker return time. Surprisingly sore for this mellow of a run.

Speed work today with 6 x .25 miles at 6'34", 6'46", 7'04", 6'44", 6'34", 5'55" paces.

 

[chauncey]

Hang10, The new kicks are the Glycerin model. I almost bought some orange Brooks trail shoes too but figured I'd wait a few weeks on those. The shop owner just opened the store last week, was working up in Seattle at the Brooks design/testing place prior. I got a PhD lesson in shoe technology, pretty cool.

 

[worrierking]

Hey gang, good to see some new faces in here. I haven't run in four days since I had guests in town, plus I am really struggling with my parents. Looking at assisted living arrangements for them.

I might see if I can get three miles in after work so I feel like I have earned a beer or two. I was hoping for an April first return to real training but my PT suggests I hold off a while since the groin is still a bit weak and occasionally sore.

 

[ChiefD]

Ran 5 miles Saturday at what was supposed to be race pace. Average pace was 8:42. HR was average of 171. Actually felt pretty ok after that. Which leads me to Sunday. According to my Higdon plan, the run was a 2:00 run. So I was kind of excited going into the run, thinking this would be a good barometer of where I really was. I'm still not sure where I am.

Mile 1: 9:04 pace. HR 158.

Mile 2: 8:23 pace. HR 170

Mile 3: 8:34 pace. HR 171

Mile 4: 9:02 pace. HR 171

Mile 5: 9:24 pace. HR 168

Mile 6: 9:21 pace. HR 168

Mile 7: 9:43 pace. HR 169

Mile 8: 9:23 pace. HR 166

Mile 9: 9:58 pace. HR 165

Mile 10: 9:23 pace. HR 161

Mile 11: 10:30 pace. HR 160 (body starting feeling weird here. thought I was going to puke)

Mile 12: 10:18 pace. HR 166

Mile 13.2: 9:52 pace. HR 163

After I looked at my map after the run, I noticed I really botched my planning here. Pretty much from mile 4.5 to mile 12 was a steady incline with very small declines every once in awhile. My goal for this run was to not look at the HR during the run and just run at whatever pace I felt comfortable at. So during this run, I never did try to hammer down.

Race is a week from Saturday. My Higdon plan calls for this the rest of the way:

Today: 6x800, 10K pace

Wednesday: 3mile run

Thursday: 60min tempo

Friday: rest

Saturday: 3mile pace

Sunday: 2:00 run

Monday: 3 mile run

Tuesday: 6x400 5k pace

Wednesday: 2mile run

Thursday: 30min tempo

Friday: rest

I'm thinking about scaling this down quite a bit. Run normal this week, then doing my long run on Saturday instead of Sunday, since my race is on a Saturday. Rest Sunday. Then do the Monday run, rest Tuesday, run Wednesday, and rest Thursday and Friday.

Thoughts?

 

[Sand]

2h 3m run last nite which was a mix of road and the Davidson college x-country course. Watch/gps was finicky last nite so it had me at 14.86 miles but I estimate closer to 12.5 to 13 miles. Zone 2 out and zone 2/3 back resulted in a one minute quicker return time. Surprisingly sore for this mellow of a run.

Speed work today with 6 x .25 miles at 6'34", 6'46", 7'04", 6'44", 6'34", 5'55" paces.

Since the death race wasn't enough for you, here is your next challenge. Nothing like a race where only 2% finish to get you to sign up!

 

[beer 302]

http://www.movescount.com/moves/move28716368

Here's the link to the Pond Creek Gorge run. The sub 20 min pace back up the heart of the gorge was the highlight with 142m of technical climbing.

Nice to see the expensive neato cool watch pulls the same BS with HR in the first mile as mine does. Got some nice runs in there chief.

I'm thinking about scaling this down quite a bit. Run normal this week, then doing my long run on Saturday instead of Sunday, since my race is on a Saturday. Rest Sunday. Then do the Monday run, rest Tuesday, run Wednesday, and rest Thursday and Friday.

Thoughts?

Rest is more important than logging miles. I like your plan above. As was mentioned in an earlier post, you're not going to gain anything race week. If you get antsy like me with no running, just go out and do a couple easy miles jogging around. Takes the edge off but doesn't wear you out.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Monday: 3 mile run

Tuesday: 6x400 5k pace

Wednesday: 2mile run

Thursday: 30min tempo

Friday: rest

I'm thinking about scaling this down quite a bit. Run normal this week, then doing my long run on Saturday instead of Sunday, since my race is on a Saturday. Rest Sunday. Then do the Monday run, rest Tuesday, run Wednesday, and rest Thursday and Friday.

Thoughts?

That's fine. You are not going to lose conditioning at any significant level by resting during race week. And being well rested is very important. I have my half Sunday and here is plan for the week:

M rest

Tu 5 miles easy

W rest

Th 5 miles easy

F rest

S rest

S Race!

 

[beer 302]

Forgot to mention, I had a kick ### run this morning. The hills behind me have become a stable of my training so today I set out to PR the route. My previous best was 58:18, 9:36 pace for the 6 mile trek. Today I dusted it 53:30, 8:45 pace. Was pretty happy with the effort.

 

[BassNBrew]

Forgot to mention, I had a kick ### run this morning. The hills behind me have become a stable of my training so today I set out to PR the route. My previous best was 58:18, 9:36 pace for the 6 mile trek. Today I dusted it 53:30, 8:45 pace. Was pretty happy with the effort.

Forget the offer to run together a few pages back...you're too fast for me now.

 

[SFBayDuck]

Forgot to mention, I had a kick ### run this morning. The hills behind me have become a stable of my training so today I set out to PR the route. My previous best was 58:18, 9:36 pace for the 6 mile trek. Today I dusted it 53:30, 8:45 pace. Was pretty happy with the effort.

Forget the offer to run together a few pages back...you're too fast for me now.

Agreed. Everyone here is too fast for me. Although other than you I'll run farther than all of them

 

[ChiefD]

Ended up running 5 tonight instead of the 6x800. Had to take the boy to soccer practice, so I ran on the paved trail near the park. Heart monitor wasn't syncing with the Bluetooth tonight for some reason, so no HR data.

Just a nice 5 miler at an 8:09 pace. Best I've felt in weeks. Maybe those extra days of rest have been helping this past week.

 

[SFBayDuck]

2h 3m run last nite which was a mix of road and the Davidson college x-country course. Watch/gps was finicky last nite so it had me at 14.86 miles but I estimate closer to 12.5 to 13 miles. Zone 2 out and zone 2/3 back resulted in a one minute quicker return time. Surprisingly sore for this mellow of a run.

Speed work today with 6 x .25 miles at 6'34", 6'46", 7'04", 6'44", 6'34", 5'55" paces.

Since the death race wasn't enough for you, here is your next challenge. Nothing like a race where only 2% finish to get you to sign up!

Ahh yes, you've discovered The Barkley. Nothing like a race designed to keep you from finishing, with no official start time (just wait for the lighting of the cigarette to signal time to go), with no actual course (just checkpoints that each have a book that you must tear a page from and bring back to the start), and with 60K of elevation gain and a 60 hour cutoff for 100 (or more) miles.

This site has some actual info on the race, since it has no website, and here's a podcast with RD Lazurus Lake himself from a couple of years back.

 

[SFBayDuck]

Tough 7-mile trail run today in that my right leg just wouldn't loosen up. It was tight from the hip, hammies, through the IT, even my calf. I stopped 4-5 times to try and stretch it out, and it got better but still was super tight and causing some mild pain.

Luckily I had a 90 minute massage scheduled for today. My therapist thinks its likely the core exercises I've started doing in the past 2-3 weeks that are responsible for the tightness, as he didn't find anything structurally concerning - just tightness from my back all the way through my legs. So I'll take a couple of days off from the exercises, wait a day or two to run again, and hopefully nip this in the bud before it becomes an issue.

 

[pizzatyme]

4.0 miles/ 1:04 for a 17min pace.

Trimmed a mile/min from last midweek walk-run.

It's getting easier.

 

[mr. furley]

You guys love running!

you really oughta try it

 

[beer 302]

Forgot to mention, I had a kick ### run this morning. The hills behind me have become a stable of my training so today I set out to PR the route. My previous best was 58:18, 9:36 pace for the 6 mile trek. Today I dusted it 53:30, 8:45 pace. Was pretty happy with the effort.

Forget the offer to run together a few pages back...you're too fast for me now.

Agreed. Everyone here is too fast for me. Although other than you I'll run farther than all of them

I'm trying to find that happy medium, it would be pretty badass to run with you two.

 

[Sand]

Forgot to mention, I had a kick ### run this morning. The hills behind me have become a stable of my training so today I set out to PR the route. My previous best was 58:18, 9:36 pace for the 6 mile trek. Today I dusted it 53:30, 8:45 pace. Was pretty happy with the effort.

Forget the offer to run together a few pages back...you're too fast for me now.

Agreed. Everyone here is too fast for me. Although other than you I'll run farther than all of them

I'm trying to find that happy medium, it would be pretty badass to run with you two.

You'd probably regret that choice around mile 40.

Had my first ride on the tri bike tonight. Felt good, felt fast. HR monitor is dead - Garmin straps never need a battery change. They always die before then. And my powermeter didn't want to work. At least until I got home and then it connected just fine. Go figure.

And even better tonight I got my first drink thrown at(on) me. Luckily it was just a paper cup full of water or something. But I was kind of stunned that it actually happened. Stupid kids.

 

[beer 302]

You'd probably regret that choice around mile 40.

And even better tonight I got my first drink thrown at(on) me. Luckily it was just a paper cup full of water or something. But I was kind of stunned that it actually happened. Stupid kids.

Gonna guess mile 40 is about that happy medium spot for me, then I'll switch over to crewing for them

Lucky that's all that happened. I see a lot of folks get all sorts of pissy with bikers and I feel for ya. No need to be a #### on the road, folks need to slow down. That extra second or two you pick up you lose back at the first red light or stop sign you hit. Glad you're good and just got a shower.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Bought one of these recently. Love it. WInter is almost over, but this will be a big help next year. I bought another one this morning. Basically a smart wool shirt for a fraction of the price.

ETA That description says cotton as the first thing, but if you scroll down it shows what it is made of. That was just a mistake.

 

[BassNBrew]

Forgot to mention, I had a kick ### run this morning. The hills behind me have become a stable of my training so today I set out to PR the route. My previous best was 58:18, 9:36 pace for the 6 mile trek. Today I dusted it 53:30, 8:45 pace. Was pretty happy with the effort.

Forget the offer to run together a few pages back...you're too fast for me now.

Agreed. Everyone here is too fast for me. Although other than you I'll run farther than all of them

I'm trying to find that happy medium, it would be pretty badass to run with you two.

You'd probably regret that choice around mile 40.

Had my first ride on the tri bike tonight. Felt good, felt fast. HR monitor is dead - Garmin straps never need a battery change. They always die before then. And my powermeter didn't want to work. At least until I got home and then it connected just fine. Go figure.

And even better tonight I got my first drink thrown at(on) me. Luckily it was just a paper cup full of water or something. But I was kind of stunned that it actually happened. Stupid kids.

A few years ago car with a couple of punks pulled up along side me and screamed at the top of their lungs. Since we were headed towards town I took up pursuit. Chased those ####ers all over town before they finally lost me. Great interval work out. I really wanted to yank someone out of a car and beat them over the head with my bike shoe.

 

[Sand]

Forgot to mention, I had a kick ### run this morning. The hills behind me have become a stable of my training so today I set out to PR the route. My previous best was 58:18, 9:36 pace for the 6 mile trek. Today I dusted it 53:30, 8:45 pace. Was pretty happy with the effort.

Forget the offer to run together a few pages back...you're too fast for me now.

Agreed. Everyone here is too fast for me. Although other than you I'll run farther than all of them

I'm trying to find that happy medium, it would be pretty badass to run with you two.

You'd probably regret that choice around mile 40.

Had my first ride on the tri bike tonight. Felt good, felt fast. HR monitor is dead - Garmin straps never need a battery change. They always die before then. And my powermeter didn't want to work. At least until I got home and then it connected just fine. Go figure.

And even better tonight I got my first drink thrown at(on) me. Luckily it was just a paper cup full of water or something. But I was kind of stunned that it actually happened. Stupid kids.

A few years ago car with a couple of punks pulled up along side me and screamed at the top of their lungs. Since we were headed towards town I took up pursuit. Chased those ####ers all over town before they finally lost me. Great interval work out. I really wanted to yank someone out of a car and beat them over the head with my bike shoe.

There were at least four in the car, so really the whole get pissed off and yank them out of the car probably wouldn't have ended well for me. And to be honest he softball tossed it on me. I didn't get the impression he was trying to hurt me - he was being a stupid kid and trying to do something funny. So I just let it go.

 

[BassNBrew]

Forgot to mention, I had a kick ### run this morning. The hills behind me have become a stable of my training so today I set out to PR the route. My previous best was 58:18, 9:36 pace for the 6 mile trek. Today I dusted it 53:30, 8:45 pace. Was pretty happy with the effort.

Forget the offer to run together a few pages back...you're too fast for me now.

Agreed. Everyone here is too fast for me. Although other than you I'll run farther than all of them

I'm trying to find that happy medium, it would be pretty badass to run with you two.

You'd probably regret that choice around mile 40.

Had my first ride on the tri bike tonight. Felt good, felt fast. HR monitor is dead - Garmin straps never need a battery change. They always die before then. And my powermeter didn't want to work. At least until I got home and then it connected just fine. Go figure.

And even better tonight I got my first drink thrown at(on) me. Luckily it was just a paper cup full of water or something. But I was kind of stunned that it actually happened. Stupid kids.

A few years ago car with a couple of punks pulled up along side me and screamed at the top of their lungs. Since we were headed towards town I took up pursuit. Chased those ####ers all over town before they finally lost me. Great interval work out. I really wanted to yank someone out of a car and beat them over the head with my bike shoe.

There were at least four in the car, so really the whole get pissed off and yank them out of the car probably wouldn't have ended well for me. And to be honest he softball tossed it on me. I didn't get the impression he was trying to hurt me - he was being a stupid kid and trying to do something funny. So I just let it go.

Pretty well documented that you are both faster and smarter than me.

 

[gruecd]

So who's all running Boston this year? Besides me, I mean.

We should definitely try to get together at some point over the weekend!

 

[Sand]

So who's all running Boston this year? Besides me, I mean.

We should definitely try to get together at some point over the weekend!

I'll run to the Boston Market down the street. Does that qualify me?